Re: [gentoo-user] Arrghh,,, X.org and NVidia

2005-12-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 00:05:43 -0300, Norberto Bensa wrote:

 Neil Bothwick wrote:

  =media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.7664
  =media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.7664
 
 Does it work with 7174??

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# lspci -s 01:00
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 
64/Model 64 Pro] (rev 15)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# eix -cI nvidia
[I] media-video/nvidia-glx (1.0.7174-r5): NVIDIA X11 driver and GLX libraries
[I] media-video/nvidia-kernel (1.0.7174): Linux kernel module for the NVIDIA 
X11 driver


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Re: [gentoo-user] Cleanup kde-3.4

2005-12-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 23:26:44 -0600, Kevin Hanson wrote:

 qpkg -I -nc -g kde-base | xargs emerge --prune

 This is what I use and it works well:
 
 #!/bin/bash
 for x in `ls /usr/portage/kde-base`; do
   if [ $x != CVS ]; then
 echo -n =kde-base/$x-3.4* 
   fi
 done |xargs emerge -Cpv

This only works for 3.4, whereas --prune removed all older packages.
Also, by using -I with qpkg, it only acts on packages that are installed,
not the whole of kde-base.

On the other hand,your approach works better if you used the monolithic
ebuild for 3.5 and the split ebuilds for 3.5.


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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag order confusion

2005-12-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 19:54:59 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:

 Using it on the emerge command line has the desired effect.  That is,
 USE=-sasl emerge -v -p sendmail  shows `-sasl' as expected.
 
 Why doesn't it work with the entry in /etc/make.conf?

What do you get from

grep sasl /etc/portage/package.use


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[gentoo-user] udev-077-r1 makes /dev/dsp disappear!

2005-12-09 Thread Mrugesh Karnik
Hello,

I am running Gentoo on an AMD64 Sempron processor with an MSI K8MM-V 
motherboard runnning a VIA K8M800 chipset. This is the lspci output about my 
sound card:

:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.: Unknown device 0430
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 209
I/O ports at ec00 [size=256]
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2

The system has been running without any problems with udev-077 and alsa 1.0.9

Yesterday, I upgraded to udev-077-r1 as part of a normal 'update world'. I 
shut off the system. Booted this morning only to find /dev/dsp missing and 
alsasound giving errors about soundcard '0' being not found.

I tried to upgrade all the alsa packages (alsa-lib alsa-driver alsa-utils 
alsa-jack alsa-oss) to 1.0.10. I have been using 1.0.9, because I get a very 
very low volume, even with Master and PCM set to 100% with 1.0.10. Anyway, 
even after upgrading and running alsaconf, I still had the same problem.

I decided to downgrade udev to 077, which I had been using till yesterday. It 
worked, I got my /dev/dsp back and sound worked. But I still had to downgrade 
alsa to 1.0.9 to solve the volume issue.

My question is, has anyone else seen this issue? Should I report this as a 
bug?

Regards,
Mrugesh
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Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED: Compiling kde-meta for 3.5

2005-12-09 Thread Gerhard Hoogterp
On Tuesday 06 December 2005 22:45, Gerhard Hoogterp wrote:

As it seems xmlto needs the latest libxlst 1.1.15 and DOESN'T have a 
dependency for it. 


 As I try to emerge kde-meta I run into the following error:

 /usr/kde/3.5/bin/meinproc --check --cache index.cache.bz2 ./index.docbook
   XPath error : Undefined variable
 compilation error:
   file /usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/html/autotoc.xsl
 line 544 element div

 using the

   USE=kdeenablefinal ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86
   emerge kdeaddons-docs-konq-plugins

 commandline. I've checked and updated all the docbook stuff I have
 installed to no avail..

 Anyone who has an idea or a pointer?

 Gerhard
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Re: [gentoo-user] K3b and CD copy [solved, mostly]

2005-12-09 Thread Dale
Hi again,

Well, I have KDE 3.5 installed now.  K3b still did not work though.  So,
I keyworded the little puppy so it would get the latest.  It did, now it
works.  I click the tools thing, then click copy CD and the windoze pops
up.  I click start and we are burning CDs.  I do get a crash signal when
I close it though.  Not sure what is up with that.  Next release I
guess.  :\

KDE 3.5 is pretty cool.  I did a back-up of some stuff first but I don't
see that anything was lost.  All my email is still here.  That is good
since I have a lot.  I did notice that after doing a revdep-rebuild,
there is a lot of broken libraries.  I let it do its thing but they are
still broken.  May do a emerge -e world and go take a nap.  I upgraded
gcc earlier but most of them are related to hal I think.  I did a emerge
-e system twice but maybe once more will do the trick.  Is there a way
to tell to do a world but skip the stuff in system that is already
done?  Just curious.

Anyway, K3b is solved now.  Moving on to the next fix.

Dale
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3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
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Re: [gentoo-user] K3b and CD copy [solved, mostly]

2005-12-09 Thread Dale
Nagatoro wrote:

 Dale wrote:

 KDE 3.5 is pretty cool.  I did a back-up of some stuff first but I don't
 see that anything was lost.  All my email is still here.  That is good
 since I have a lot.  I did notice that after doing a revdep-rebuild,
 there is a lot of broken libraries.  I let it do its thing but they are
 still broken.  May do a emerge -e world and go take a nap.  I upgraded
 gcc earlier but most of them are related to hal I think.  I did a emerge
 -e system twice but maybe once more will do the trick.  Is there a way
 to tell to do a world but skip the stuff in system that is already
 done?  Just curious.


 To fix things regarding the gcc upgrade (3.3-3.4)
 revdep-rebuild --library libstdc++.so.5 -p -v
 revdep-rebuild --library libstdc++.so.5

 and for some reason I had to do
 emerge qt
 before since it was _after_ kde in the revdep sugested order.

I did the revdep-rebuild like in the guide.  I actually copied and
pasted it.  My typing sucks.  It was fine after that.  It was after I
emerged the masked hal that KDE 3.5 required that the libs went
missing.  This is what I get:

 Checking dynamic linking consistency...
   broken /usr/lib/libIvmConfig.so.0.0.0 (requires libhal.so.0
 libdbus-glib-1.so.0 libdbus-1.so.0)
   broken /usr/bin/ivman (requires libhal.so.0 libdbus-glib-1.so.0
 libdbus-1.so.0 libhal.so.0 libdbus-glib-1.so.0 libdbus-1.so.0)
   broken /usr/libexec/gnome-vfs-daemon (requires libhal-storage.so.0
 libhal.so.0 libdbus-glib-1.so.0 libdbus-1.so.0)
   broken /usr/X11R6/lib/libIvmConfig.so.0.0.0 (requires libhal.so.0
 libdbus-glib-1.so.0 libdbus-1.so.0)
   broken /usr/X11R6/bin/ivman (requires libhal.so.0
 libdbus-glib-1.so.0 libdbus-1.so.0 libhal.so.0 libdbus-glib-1.so.0
 libdbus-1.so.0)
  done.


It seems they have something to do with dbus and hal.  I'm no expert
though.  Just noticing that they all have hal and dbus in the names.  LOL

I'm going to do emerge dbus hal and see if that fixes it.  I think qt
was one of the ones done during the emerge -e system though.  emerge -e
world should get it for sure though, if nothing else works.

Dale
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3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with Ethernet on installation

2005-12-09 Thread Felipe Ribeiro
I'm not installing on the slack box, 'cause i want to overwrite it. i'm 
booting from the CD.


And sorry for the reply thing, i didn't know :-[

Felipe

Zac Medico escreveu:


Felipe Ribeiro wrote:


Hi all,

I'm a Slackware user, but i decided to give Gentoo a try! :-)
Gentoo instalation uses kernel 2.6.12, and it doesn't have my 
ethernet card module.
It is the sis190, that have been added on 2.6.14, do i have to put 
another card while installing or is there another solution?




Are you installing this on the slackware box?  If the network is 
already working and you have a spare partition then you don't need the 
installation cd.  Just download a stage3 and follow the handbook.


By the way, when you click reply in the email client and start a new 
topic, it's called thread hijacking.  My mail client seems to think 
that's what you did. :)


Zac



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[gentoo-user] genkernal refuses to finish - no initrd

2005-12-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Installing from scratch, using networked install, I've built two
kernels from 2.6.14 sources, each time the mods I'd listed autoload
fail to be loaded and are apparently never built.

I resorted to usign genkernel since in the past that has always
provided a working kernel and initrd.  And sufficient modules.

This time, with current gentoo-sources, genkernel fails to complete.
I've left it alone for over an hour, in two attempts now.  It
never returns a prompt and worse, no initrd appears in boot.

Running `genkernel --udev all' as directed by manual. after first
having: 
zcat /proc/config.gz  /usr/share/genkernel/x86/kernel-config-2.6

Again, as directed.

The manual does mention:

genkernel compiles a kernel that supports almost all hardware, this
compilation will take quite a while to finish!

This is on a 2Ghz P4.  Can anyone comment on how long `Quite a while'
might be?  I don't recall spending over an hour on this in past installs.

Or alternatively it seems one could just use /proc/config.gz as
/usr/src/linux/.config and run it manually.  Except I'm at a loss as
to how an intitrd is built manually from a kernel compile.


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Re: [gentoo-user] udev-077-r1 makes /dev/dsp disappear!

2005-12-09 Thread Simon Hogg
On 12/9/05, Mrugesh Karnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 I am running Gentoo on an AMD64 Sempron processor with an MSI K8MM-V
 motherboard runnning a VIA K8M800 chipset. This is the lspci output about my
 sound card:

 :00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.
 VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
 Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.: Unknown device 0430
 Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 209
 I/O ports at ec00 [size=256]
 Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2

 The system has been running without any problems with udev-077 and alsa 1.0.9

 Yesterday, I upgraded to udev-077-r1 as part of a normal 'update world'. I
 shut off the system. Booted this morning only to find /dev/dsp missing and
 alsasound giving errors about soundcard '0' being not found.

 I tried to upgrade all the alsa packages (alsa-lib alsa-driver alsa-utils
 alsa-jack alsa-oss) to 1.0.10. I have been using 1.0.9, because I get a very
 very low volume, even with Master and PCM set to 100% with 1.0.10. Anyway,
 even after upgrading and running alsaconf, I still had the same problem.

 I decided to downgrade udev to 077, which I had been using till yesterday. It
 worked, I got my /dev/dsp back and sound worked. But I still had to downgrade
 alsa to 1.0.9 to solve the volume issue.

 My question is, has anyone else seen this issue? Should I report this as a
 bug?

 Regards,
 Mrugesh
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I was suffering from this same problem and it does appear to be a bug
in udev-077-r1 (-r2 is now in ~x86 but I've not tried it yet).

The solution that someone else came up with (calr0x on the forums) was
to run udevstart once the system is running, this causes all of the
device nodes for the installed kernel modules to be created.

Simon

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Re: [gentoo-user] genkernal refuses to finish - no initrd

2005-12-09 Thread Dale
Harry Putnam wrote:

Installing from scratch, using networked install, I've built two
kernels from 2.6.14 sources, each time the mods I'd listed autoload
fail to be loaded and are apparently never built.
  


I'm not big on the genkernel thing but I had the same thing earlier and
I was doing it manually.  I don't know how to fix it but you are not
alone.  This is on a running rig too, not from the CD.

Or alternatively it seems one could just use /proc/config.gz as
/usr/src/linux/.config and run it manually.  Except I'm at a loss as
to how an intitrd is built manually from a kernel compile.
  


One would thnk that would work.  I have never done it before though.

Dale
:-)


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2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB 
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Re: [gentoo-user] genkernal refuses to finish - no initrd

2005-12-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 04:24:26 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:


 Or alternatively it seems one could just use /proc/config.gz as
 /usr/src/linux/.config and run it manually.  Except I'm at a loss as
 to how an intitrd is built manually from a kernel compile.

You don't need an initrd when compiling your own kernel. genkernel uses
it because it needs modules for everything, including the kitchen sink,
available to the kernel before mounting the root filesystem. Compiling
them into the kernel would make it bloated. When you compile a kernel
manually, you choose which modules you need in the kernel, build those in
and either leave the rest out or compile them as separate modules.

Genkernel is intended to make things easier, and it may do when things
work as they should, but I find it makes life more difficult when
anything goes wrong. Building a kernel manually is not rocket science, it
is easier in the long run.


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[gentoo-user] Re: USE flag order confusion

2005-12-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 19:54:59 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:

 Using it on the emerge command line has the desired effect.  That is,
 USE=-sasl emerge -v -p sendmail  shows `-sasl' as expected.
 
 Why doesn't it work with the entry in /etc/make.conf?

 What do you get from

 grep sasl /etc/portage/package.use

Bingo...
grep sasl /etc/portage/package.use:
mail-mta/sendmail mbox sasl milter

Urk... ah well I ... er mutter mutter.


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[gentoo-user] emerge -e world has Blocks, big time. O_O

2005-12-09 Thread Dale
Hi. . . . again,

Well, I did my upgrade with gcc.  Then I went and done the KDE 3.5
upgrade.  I have a problem or two and just want to do a emerge -e world
and go to bed for a while.  It is not a pretty site though.  This is
just *some* of what I get:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -epv world

 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

 Calculating world dependencies ...done!
 [blocks B ] =kde-base/kaddressbook-plugins-3.5* (is blocking
 kde-base/kdeaddons-3.5.0)
 [blocks B ] =kde-base/konq-plugins-3.5* (is blocking
 kde-base/kdeaddons-3.5.0)
 [blocks B ] =kde-base/libkpgp-3.5* (is blocking
 kde-base/kdepim-3.5.0-r3)
 [blocks B ] =kde-base/konsole-3.5* (is blocking
 kde-base/kdebase-3.5.0-r1)
 [blocks B ] =kde-base/ksysguard-3.5* (is blocking
 kde-base/kdebase-3.5.0-r1)
 [blocks B ] =kde-base/ksmserver-3.5* (is blocking
 kde-base/kdebase-3.5.0-r1)
 [blocks B ] =kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5* (is blocking
 kde-base/kdebase-3.5.0-r1)
 [blocks B ] =kde-base/knetattach-3.5* (is blocking
 kde-base/kdebase-3.5.0-r1)
 [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdesktop-3.5* (is blocking
 kde-base/kdebase-3.5.0-r1)
 [blocks B ] =kde-base/kmenuedit-3.5* (is blocking
 kde-base/kdebase-3.5.0-r1)
 [blocks B ] =kde-base/kicker-3.5* (is blocking
 kde-base/kdebase-3.5.0-r1)
 [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdepasswd-3.5* (is blocking
 kde-base/kdebase-3.5.0-r1)


I have the kde-base stuff in package.keywords,   What else do I need to
do so it will not block me from doing a emerge -e world?  Do I need to
add it to another package.* file?

One of these days, I'm going to learn all this stuff.  ;)  Wait, they
will change it when I do though.

Thanks

Dale
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[gentoo-user] Re: genkernal refuses to finish - no initrd

2005-12-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 04:24:26 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:


 Or alternatively it seems one could just use /proc/config.gz as
 /usr/src/linux/.config and run it manually.  Except I'm at a loss as
 to how an intitrd is built manually from a kernel compile.

 You don't need an initrd when compiling your own kernel. genkernel uses
 it because it needs modules for everything, including the kitchen sink,
 available to the kernel before mounting the root filesystem. Compiling
 them into the kernel would make it bloated. When you compile a kernel
 manually, you choose which modules you need in the kernel, build those in
 and either leave the rest out or compile them as separate modules.

What about for frame buffering?  Isn't it required for that?  I
thought the initram thingy was the way it was done currently.

 Genkernel is intended to make things easier, and it may do when things
 work as they should, but I find it makes life more difficult when
 anything goes wrong. Building a kernel manually is not rocket science, it
 is easier in the long run.

Well, like I said I did try manually twice first.  But on bootup the
modules I needed were not only not available but were apparently not
ever built.  I must be making some wrong choices somewhere.

I did list them in the autoloads file.

The mods I need are for networking:
3c59x and e100 for my adapters.   On the second build I did get 3c59x
but it turned out not to be the one needed for eth0, and eth1 was not
present. Looking back thru menuconfig, I don't see a choice that looks
like it would build e100.

e100 is present in livecd though so I know its there somewhere.  I
thought maybe genkernel would find it.

I've gone thru the network devices in menuconfig several times and
still do not see one that appears to include e100.  Although in the
install I'm replacing it was present going way back.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: genkernal refuses to finish - no initrd

2005-12-09 Thread Dale
Harry Putnam wrote:

The mods I need are for networking:
3c59x and e100 for my adapters.   On the second build I did get 3c59x
but it turned out not to be the one needed for eth0, and eth1 was not
present. Looking back thru menuconfig, I don't see a choice that looks
like it would build e100.
  


Try this one:

   Intel(R) PRO/100+ support


You can search if you know the name.  Just hit the / key then type in
the name of the module.  Someone posted that the other day.  They
screwed up.  I wore out the / key.  LOL

Dale
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1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 
80GB hard drives.  
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Arrghh,,, X.org and NVidia

2005-12-09 Thread Norberto Bensa
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 00:05:43 -0300, Norberto Bensa wrote:
  Does it work with 7174??

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# lspci -s 01:00
 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2
 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] (rev 15) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# eix -cI nvidia
 [I] media-video/nvidia-glx (1.0.7174-r5): NVIDIA X11 driver and GLX
 libraries [I] media-video/nvidia-kernel (1.0.7174): Linux kernel module for
 the NVIDIA X11 driver

Thanks. I'll check if my GF2 works with 7174. I'm stuck with 6629 :(
 
Regards,
Norberto

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[gentoo-user] Re: genkernal refuses to finish - no initrd

2005-12-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Try this one:

   Intel(R) PRO/100+ support


 You can search if you know the name.  Just hit the / key then type in
 the name of the module.  Someone posted that the other day.  They
 screwed up.  I wore out the / key.  LOL

Hey that is a handy bit... thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: genkernal refuses to finish - no initrd

2005-12-09 Thread Dale
Harry Putnam wrote:

Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  

Try this one:



  Intel(R) PRO/100+ support
  

You can search if you know the name.  Just hit the / key then type in
the name of the module.  Someone posted that the other day.  They
screwed up.  I wore out the / key.  LOL



Hey that is a handy bit... thanks

  

Yup, it is cool, if you know the name of the module.  ;)  If you don't,
oh well, google it is.

Dale
:-)

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I have four rigs:

1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 
80GB hard drives.  
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB 
SCSI drive.

All run Gentoo, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Framebuffer and kenerl options

2005-12-09 Thread brettholcomb
Did you select framebuffer support - there needs to be a * beside it before you 
see the rest.  If that doesn't work set the see experimental items flag in the 
general setup.

 
 From: Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/12/08 Thu PM 11:07:39 EST
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user]  Re: Framebuffer and kenerl options
 
 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  It's under device drivers-graphic support.  You select Support for
  framebuffer.  Select it and you get a VESA VGA graphics support
  option in the list which has a sub item with VESA driver type 
  Hit enter there and you can select vesa or vesafb-tng.
 
 I'm not seeing that here.
 device drivers-graphic support YES
 Select Framebuffer support YES
 
 I don't see any options like what you mention appearing in this list
 anywhere.  No VESA VGA Graphics support
 
 I see Console Display Driver Support ---
 and then:
 Frame Buffer Console Support.
 
 Never any mention of VESA or Vesafb-tng
 
 There is no mention of it in .config either.  Not even disabled or
 off.
 
 This is kernel-2.6.14-r4
 
 Is that what you are looking at?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -e world has Blocks, big time. O_O

2005-12-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 05:38:29 -0600, Dale wrote:


  kde-base/kdebase-3.5.0-r1)
  [blocks B ] =kde-base/kicker-3.5* (is blocking
  kde-base/kdebase-3.5.0-r1)
  [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdepasswd-3.5* (is blocking
  kde-base/kdebase-3.5.0-r1)
 

You have the split ebuilds installed yet emerge world is trying to
install the monolithic ebuilds, you can't have both.

 I have the kde-base stuff in package.keywords,   What else do I need to
 do so it will not block me from doing a emerge -e world?  Do I need to
 add it to another package.* file?

Do you have kde-base/kde installed? If so, unmerge it, it won't break
anything because it doesn't contain anything (it is a meta-package), but
it will stop emerge world trying to pull in all the monolithic ebuilds.

Otherwise, reun emerge -utv world to see what is trying to install the
monolithic packages.

 One of these days, I'm going to learn all this stuff.  ;)  Wait, they
 will change it when I do though.

How else will the devs keep us on our toes :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Framebuffer and kenerl options

2005-12-09 Thread Daniel da Veiga
Isn't it at the Character Devices?
I am not at my machine right now, but I remember it there...

Just a thought, I was able to use the manual configuration for
framebuffer use, and then decided to try genkernel, I must admit it is
so easy to use I'm not switching for a long time. Following the
instructions at the Installation Manual, copied the config.gz with
zcat, used it as configuration and:

emerge splashutils
genkernel --install --gensplash=yourtheme all

On 12/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Did you select framebuffer support - there needs to be a * beside it before 
 you see the rest.  If that doesn't work set the see experimental items flag 
 in the general setup.

 
  From: Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2005/12/08 Thu PM 11:07:39 EST
  To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
  Subject: [gentoo-user]  Re: Framebuffer and kenerl options
 
  Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   It's under device drivers-graphic support.  You select Support for
   framebuffer.  Select it and you get a VESA VGA graphics support
   option in the list which has a sub item with VESA driver type 
   Hit enter there and you can select vesa or vesafb-tng.
 
  I'm not seeing that here.
  device drivers-graphic support YES
  Select Framebuffer support YES
 
  I don't see any options like what you mention appearing in this list
  anywhere.  No VESA VGA Graphics support
 
  I see Console Display Driver Support ---
  and then:
  Frame Buffer Console Support.
 
  Never any mention of VESA or Vesafb-tng
 
  There is no mention of it in .config either.  Not even disabled or
  off.
 
  This is kernel-2.6.14-r4
 
  Is that what you are looking at?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -e world has Blocks, big time. O_O

2005-12-09 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 05:38:29 -0600, Dale wrote:


  

kde-base/kdebase-3.5.0-r1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kicker-3.5* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.0-r1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdepasswd-3.5* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.0-r1)
  


You have the split ebuilds installed yet emerge world is trying to
install the monolithic ebuilds, you can't have both.

  

I have the kde-base stuff in package.keywords,   What else do I need to
do so it will not block me from doing a emerge -e world?  Do I need to
add it to another package.* file?



Do you have kde-base/kde installed? If so, unmerge it, it won't break
anything because it doesn't contain anything (it is a meta-package), but
it will stop emerge world trying to pull in all the monolithic ebuilds.

Otherwise, reun emerge -utv world to see what is trying to install the
monolithic packages.

  

One of these days, I'm going to learn all this stuff.  ;)  Wait, they
will change it when I do though.



How else will the devs keep us on our toes :)


  

Thanks for the reply.  I have been reading the forums.  I was in the
middle of a download and when on dial-up, you can't search and download
a package at the same time.  LOL  Anyway, the download finished and I
was looking around the forums.  It wasn't making sense though.  I
thought I was going to have to unmerge *ALL* of KDE 3.4. 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge unmerge  kde

  kde-base/kde
 selected: 3.4.1
protected: none
  omitted: none

  'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
  'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.

  Waiting 5 seconds before starting...
  (Control-C to abort)...
  Unmerging in: 5 4 3 2 1
  Unmerging kde-base/kde-3.4.1...
 No package files given... Grabbing a set.
  Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...

  * GNU info directory index is up-to-date.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #


That seemed to work great.  o_O  Me like this.  This means I have KDE
3.4 to fall back onto if I have too.  Now I can do a emerge -e world and
get some sleep.  Uh oh, my girlfriend may send me a email.  I have to
stay awake a little longer.  I LUV my Sweety.  :-D  All 100 lbs of her. 
She's tiny.

Is emerge unmerge the exact some thing as emerge -C ???

Thanks

Dale
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[gentoo-user] ACCESS VIOLATION with emerge -e world

2005-12-09 Thread Allan Gottlieb
After upgrading gcc I did the safer post-installation,
   emerge -e system
   emerge -e world

The first went fine.  The second died after about 300 emerges and
printed

making executable: /usr/lib/libgtkhtml-1.1.so.3.0.5
 Completed installing gtkhtml-1.1.10-r1 into 
/var/tmp/portage/gtkhtml-1.1.10-r1/image/

--- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY 
---
LOG FILE = 
/var/log/sandbox/sandbox-gnome-extra_-_gtkhtml-1.1.10-r1-32251.log

open_wr:   /usr/share/gnome/html/gtkhtml/gtkhtml-gtkhtml-enums.html.new


ajglap ~ #

The exact emerge I used was

emerge -e --tree --verbose --ask  world

My make.conf is

#  -*- shell-script -*-
# These settings were set by the catalyst build script that
# automatically built this stage.
# Then edited by allan.
# Please consult /etc/make.conf.example for a more detailed example.

CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-march=pentium4 -pipe -O2
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
MAKEOPTS=-j3
USE=apache2 doc dvd dvdr emacs firefox imap mime nvidia ppds \
 scanner tcltk unicode usb \
 -arts -kde -libg -oss -qt
PORT_LOGDIR=/var/log/portage
GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo 
http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo http://mirrors.acm.cs.rpi.edu/gentoo/ 
http://gentoo.mirrored.ca/ http://prometheus.cs.wmich.edu/gentoo;
SYNC=rsync://rsync.us.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage

I presume I can safely do

emerge --resume --skipfirst

but will wait a few hours in case that is not advisible.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -e world has Blocks, big time. O_O

2005-12-09 Thread Dale
Holy smoke:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -ev world
 Calculating world dependencies ...done!
  emerge (1 of *656*) sys-devel/patch-2.5.9 to /

May be a long nap.  O_O  Looks like folding may run a bit behind
schedule this week.  LOL

Dale
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3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.
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[gentoo-user] What provides emaint?

2005-12-09 Thread Phil Sexton

Hi Gentoo folk,

I can't find the package that provides the emaint command.

I browsed through esearch --fullname --verbose app-admin|less, 
but found nothing that looked promising.


Any hints/tips?

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Re: [gentoo-user] What provides emaint?

2005-12-09 Thread Dale
Phil Sexton wrote:

 Hi Gentoo folk,

 I can't find the package that provides the emaint command.

 I browsed through esearch --fullname --verbose app-admin|less, but
 found nothing that looked promising.

 Any hints/tips?

Linky alert.

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2778758.html#2778758

It will scroll down to a specifc post.  If you are on dial-up, be patient.

Dale
:-)

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3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB 
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Re: [gentoo-user] What provides emaint?

2005-12-09 Thread Ernie Schroder
It's in the latest, masked portage, I believe.

yup 

qpkg -f -i /usr/lib/portage/bin/emaint
sys-apps/portage-2.0.53 *
The Portage Package Management System. The primary package management 
and distribution system for Gentoo. [ http://www.gentoo.org/ ]



On Friday 09 December 2005 08:45, a tiny voice compelled Phil Sexton to write:
 Hi Gentoo folk,

 I can't find the package that provides the emaint command.

 I browsed through esearch --fullname --verbose app-admin|less,
 but found nothing that looked promising.

 Any hints/tips?

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[gentoo-user] PHP and MCRYPT

2005-12-09 Thread Jeff Grossman
I am running dev-lang/php 5.0.5.  I installed phpmyadmin, and when I 
first go into it, it says I do not have mcrypt installed in my php.  How 
do I enable mcrypt in PHP?  I tried adding the use flag of mcrypt, but 
that does not seem to do anything.  What am I missing?

Thanks,
Jeff

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[gentoo-user] BNEP module

2005-12-09 Thread Leandro Melo de Sales
Hi,

  I'm trying to configure my bnep0 as shown in
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/bluetooth-guide.xml. Well, I'm doing like
this:

# modprobe bnep
# lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
bnep   12928  2

but when I try to setup the ip address for the bnep0 I got the following error:

# ifconfig bnep0 192.168.2.1
SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
bnep0: unknown interface: No such device

What should I have to do to make my bnep0 working?

I'm newbie in bluetooth subject, I have a simple question: I have a
Motorola V3 with bluetooth enabled and I want to write a simple
client/server application to transfer data through a socket connection
between my desktop and my V3. So how can I setup the V3 ip or Am I
thinking wrong about this and I should make a different configuration
in order to connect my devices through socket?

Thank you,

Leandro.

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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox/java_vm

2005-12-09 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Thursday 08 December 2005 19:02, a tiny voice compelled Richard Fish to 
write:
 On 12/8/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 12/8/05, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Thursday 08 December 2005 10:05, a tiny voice compelled Mark Knecht
   to
  
   write:
The problem I see periodically is that at time the java_vm will go to
100% CPU and I have to kill it by hand.
  
   But you only show one instance of java_vm, right?
 
  As far as I know, yes, I only have one copy. I do not see the multiple
  copies that you are seeing.

 This could be a nptl vs posixthreads issue.  nptl threads show up as
 only a single process.  For those having this problem, do you use
 nptlonly for glibc?  If not, anyone willing to try remerging glibc
 with that flag?

 -Richard


looks like I have to build a new kernel

 * Checking gcc for __thread support ... yes
 * Checking kernel version (=2.6.6) ... no

 * You need a kernel of at least version 2.6.6
 * for NPTL support!

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Re: [gentoo-user] PHP and MCRYPT

2005-12-09 Thread Francesco Riosa
Jeff Grossman wrote:
 I am running dev-lang/php 5.0.5.  I installed phpmyadmin, and when I 
 first go into it, it says I do not have mcrypt installed in my php.  How 
 do I enable mcrypt in PHP?  I tried adding the use flag of mcrypt, but 
 that does not seem to do anything.  What am I missing?

 Thanks,
 Jeff

   
$ grep mcrypt /usr/portage/eclass/php5-sapi-r3.eclass
crypt? ( =dev-libs/libmcrypt-2.4 )
enable_extension_with   mcrypt   
crypt 1


so the use flag is crypt


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Re: [gentoo-user] PHP and MCRYPT

2005-12-09 Thread Dale
Jeff Grossman wrote:

I am running dev-lang/php 5.0.5.  I installed phpmyadmin, and when I 
first go into it, it says I do not have mcrypt installed in my php.  How 
do I enable mcrypt in PHP?  I tried adding the use flag of mcrypt, but 
that does not seem to do anything.  What am I missing?

Thanks,
Jeff

  

This may point you in the area to look.  There is something you have to
enable in your kernel for it to work.  I threw the error away earlier
because I don't use crypt. I do remember that part though.  No clue on
php itself though.

Hope that helps a little anyway.

Dale
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3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.
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Re: [gentoo-user] What provides emaint?

2005-12-09 Thread Francesco Riosa
Phil Sexton wrote:
 Hi Gentoo folk,

 I can't find the package that provides the emaint command.

 I browsed through esearch --fullname --verbose app-admin|less, but
 found nothing that looked promising.

 Any hints/tips?

installed by portage

# which emaint
/usr/sbin/emaint


you need to be root to have it in the path
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[gentoo-user] Re: BNEP module

2005-12-09 Thread Leandro Melo de Sales
Yes... I executed with no problem:

pand --listen --role NAP --master --autozap
pand --connect 00:0A:0B:0C:0D:0E --service NAP --autozap

I just replaced 00:0A:0B:0C:0D:0E to the address of my cellphone.

Leandro

2005/12/9, David LIBAULT [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 How about the pand --listen... line in the howto ? Did you forget it ?
 If that is not the problem, please submit your question to the bluez mailling
 list.

 David.

 Le vendredi 09 Décembre 2005 15:39, Leandro Melo de Sales a écrit :
  Hi,
 
I'm trying to configure my bnep0 as shown in
  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/bluetooth-guide.xml. Well, I'm doing like
  this:
 
  # modprobe bnep
  # lsmod
  Module  Size  Used by
  bnep   12928  2
 
  but when I try to setup the ip address for the bnep0 I got the following
  error:
 
  # ifconfig bnep0 192.168.2.1
  SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
  bnep0: unknown interface: No such device
 
  What should I have to do to make my bnep0 working?
 
  I'm newbie in bluetooth subject, I have a simple question: I have a
  Motorola V3 with bluetooth enabled and I want to write a simple
  client/server application to transfer data through a socket connection
  between my desktop and my V3. So how can I setup the V3 ip or Am I
  thinking wrong about this and I should make a different configuration
  in order to connect my devices through socket?
 
  Thank you,
 
  Leandro.


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[gentoo-user] New Gentoo Laptop part 2

2005-12-09 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
Hi folks:

ok -- we didn't get the snow day I was hoping for, but, I decided to go
ahead and work on the new install anyway.  -- Call me crazy --

I am in the process of the build now, and am beginning to think about
software, and I am not sure that I understand how to properly install
stuff.

For example, there are programs from several different families that I
like and that I want to use.  For example

From Gnome - I like Nautilus and gthumb (among others)
From KDE -- I like Konversation, Akregator, and DigiKAM
And from Generic (no specific family) I like Audacity and the Gimp

I am pretty sure most or all of these are in portage, so getting them is
no big deal.  I will be running Fluxbox, and I would like the programs
with all their proper features, without the extra bloat that installing
GNOME and KDE would bring.  Can someone please advise on the proper way
to go about doing this???

Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with Ethernet on installation

2005-12-09 Thread Zac Medico

Felipe Ribeiro wrote:
I'm not installing on the slack box, 'cause i want to overwrite it. i'm 
booting from the CD.


Okay, if I understand correctly, you want to overwrite your slackware 
installation?  In that case, if there's some free space on your root partition, 
then you can in install a minimal gentoo system in /gentoo/ (build a kernel and 
everything while running slackware) and then boot off the cd and move 
everything into place.

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Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo Laptop part 2

2005-12-09 Thread John Jolet


On Dec 9, 2005, at 9:25 AM, Timothy A. Holmes wrote:


Hi folks:

ok -- we didn't get the snow day I was hoping for, but, I decided  
to go

ahead and work on the new install anyway.  -- Call me crazy --

I am in the process of the build now, and am beginning to think about
software, and I am not sure that I understand how to properly install
stuff.

For example, there are programs from several different families that I
like and that I want to use.  For example


From Gnome - I like Nautilus and gthumb (among others)
From KDE -- I like Konversation, Akregator, and DigiKAM

And from Generic (no specific family) I like Audacity and the Gimp

I am pretty sure most or all of these are in portage, so getting  
them is

no big deal.  I will be running Fluxbox, and I would like the programs
with all their proper features, without the extra bloat that  
installing
GNOME and KDE would bring.  Can someone please advise on the proper  
way

to go about doing this???

there is a very good howto on kde in the documentation on the  
gentoo.org site.  I point you in that direction because it mentions a  
bunch of possibilities, and I don't recall them all.  however, a  
google for site:gentoo.org kde should net you the relevant stuff.   
basically kde (can't speak to gnome, don't care for it) is broken  
into lots of ebuilds.  I personally did an emerge kde-meta, because I  
use the full-blown kde.  but there's also smaller bits you can install.


Always do an emerge packagename -pv first, as it will evaluate your  
USE flags and tell you what prereqs it'll install.



Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo Laptop part 2

2005-12-09 Thread Dale
John Jolet wrote:


 there is a very good howto on kde in the documentation on the 
 gentoo.org site.  I point you in that direction because it mentions a 
 bunch of possibilities, and I don't recall them all.  however, a 
 google for site:gentoo.org kde should net you the relevant stuff.  
 basically kde (can't speak to gnome, don't care for it) is broken 
 into lots of ebuilds.  I personally did an emerge kde-meta, because I 
 use the full-blown kde.  but there's also smaller bits you can install.

 Always do an emerge packagename -pv first, as it will evaluate your 
 USE flags and tell you what prereqs it'll install.



 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-split-ebuilds.xml?style=printable


That may help.

Dale
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1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 
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2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB 
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[gentoo-user] qpxtool ebuild and Qt problem

2005-12-09 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
I have tried to build the 'qpxtool' app with ebuild file shown below.
The problem is I have sloted Qt3 and Qt4, and ebuild doesn't switch to Qt3.
The app _must_ be built with Qt3.

How to modify the ebuild file to force a Qt3 using?

Andrew
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# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Header: $

inherit eutils kde-functions

DESCRIPTION=cd/dvd quality check for Plextor drives
HOMEPAGE=http://qpxtool.sourceforge.net;
SRC_URI=mirror://sourceforge/$PN/${P}.tar.bz2

LICENSE=GPL-2
SLOT=0
KEYWORDS=~amd64 ~x86
IUSE=

need-qt 3

DEPEND=

src_compile() {
qmake -project || die qmake -project failed
qmake qpxtool-${PV}.pro || die qmake qpxtool failed
emake || die emake failed
}

src_install() {
newbin qpxtool-${PV} qpxtool || die dobin failed
dodoc ChangeLog || die dodoc failed
}
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Re: [gentoo-user] udev-077-r1 makes /dev/dsp disappear!

2005-12-09 Thread Mrugesh Karnik
On Friday 09 December 2005 16:04, Simon Hogg wrote:
 I was suffering from this same problem and it does appear to be a bug
 in udev-077-r1 (-r2 is now in ~x86 but I've not tried it yet).

 The solution that someone else came up with (calr0x on the forums) was
 to run udevstart once the system is running, this causes all of the
 device nodes for the installed kernel modules to be created.

 Simon

Upgraded to udev-077-r2 and did udevstart. Everything is fine now.

Thanks,
Mrugesh
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -e world has Blocks, big time. O_O

2005-12-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 07:28:36 -0600, Dale wrote:

 Thanks for the reply.  I have been reading the forums.  I was in the
 middle of a download and when on dial-up, you can't search and download
 a package at the same time.

Of course you can, run each emerge in a different shell.

 It wasn't making sense though.  I
 thought I was going to have to unmerge *ALL* of KDE 3.4. 

kde-base/kde is a meta-package, it doesn't contain anything itself, just
a bunch of dependencies for the KDE monolithic packages. unmerging it
doesn't remove any files.

 Is emerge unmerge the exact some thing as emerge -C ???

Yes, although it should really be emerge --unmerge.


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -e world has Blocks, big time. O_O

2005-12-09 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:


Of course you can, run each emerge in a different shell.
  


Well, it is not practical.  I only get 26K so if I go to the forums, it
may take several minutes to download a page, much less several pages
when I am searching for something.  It also slows down my download as
well.  My pipe is pretty small here.  It's like emptying the ocean with
a drinking straw.  :(

Is emerge unmerge the exact some thing as emerge -C ???



Yes, although it should really be emerge --unmerge.
  

Strange.  I always did a emerge unmerge foo, no dashes.  At least now I
know.

I'm on package 94 of 656.  It's getting there, slowly.  LOL

Thanks
Dale
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[gentoo-user] GCC only for priviliged users?

2005-12-09 Thread aka Sevein
Hi! I thought that GCC could means a risk if all of the users of my
system are able to run it! I talked this with a friend and he propossed
to create a new group, compiler, for example, where all the users
who will be able to run gcc must belong to it!

Wouldn't be interesting to implement this into Gentoo gcc ebuild as an
USE?

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Re: [gentoo-user] GCC only for priviliged users?

2005-12-09 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
On Fri, 2005-12-09 at 18:21 +0100, Jesús García Crespo wrote:
 Hi! I thought that GCC could means a risk if all of the users of my
 system are able to run it! I talked this with a friend and he propossed
 to create a new group, compiler, for example, where all the users
 who will be able to run gcc must belong to it!
 
 Wouldn't be interesting to implement this into Gentoo gcc ebuild as an
 USE?


Exactly what risk is there from an end-user running a compiler?   A
compiler doesn't access any kind of restricted environment, doesn't
auytomatically create binaries with other rights than its own and is
about as safe a product as there can be.

And if you think that users running their own programs is a risk, simply
mount /home as noexec,  ( make sure to impose the same limitations
on /tmp and /var/tmp as well,  since users have write-access there)


And.. really. python, perl, awk, bash ... All of those are fully capable
of creating and running programs. And no, I do not think you can limit
the use thereof from user accounts.: )


If you're really paranoid about execution and so on, start reading the
SELinux FAQ and create a ruleset.. The default one is probably more
lenient than you want it ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with Ethernet on installation

2005-12-09 Thread Felipe Ribeiro
I've got another NIC, so i'm gonna use it while installing gentoo,
then, when i recompile the kernel, i add the support to my nic. :D
Thanks

On 12/9/05, Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Felipe Ribeiro wrote:
  I'm not installing on the slack box, 'cause i want to overwrite it. i'm
  booting from the CD.

 Okay, if I understand correctly, you want to overwrite your slackware 
 installation?  In that case, if there's some free space on your root 
 partition, then you can in install a minimal gentoo system in /gentoo/ (build 
 a kernel and everything while running slackware) and then boot off the cd and 
 move everything into place.

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Re: [gentoo-user] GCC only for priviliged users?

2005-12-09 Thread Harald Arnesen
Jesús García Crespo (aka Sevein) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi! I thought that GCC could means a risk if all of the users of my
 system are able to run it! I talked this with a friend and he propossed
 to create a new group, compiler, for example, where all the users
 who will be able to run gcc must belong to it!

 Wouldn't be interesting to implement this into Gentoo gcc ebuild as an
 USE?

What stops the user from downloading the gcc source and install it on
her home partition?
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Re: [gentoo-user] GCC only for priviliged users?

2005-12-09 Thread Harald Arnesen
Harald Arnesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Jesús García Crespo (aka Sevein) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi! I thought that GCC could means a risk if all of the users of my
 system are able to run it! I talked this with a friend and he propossed
 to create a new group, compiler, for example, where all the users
 who will be able to run gcc must belong to it!

 Wouldn't be interesting to implement this into Gentoo gcc ebuild as an
 USE?

 What stops the user from downloading the gcc source and install it on
 her home partition?

I was a bit fast there. What i meant was:

What stops the user from downloading the gcc source to another
machine, compiling it there and installing the binary on her home
partition on your machine?
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Re: [gentoo-user] lightweight webcam server for embedded gentoo?

2005-12-09 Thread michael

Looks perfect. I'll try it out tonight.

I have camE working, but it's not so lightweight.

Thanks,
Michael


On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Jonathan Nichols wrote:




   tv quality - even a jpeg every second or so will be fine. Trouble is,
   all the software I've found so far assumes X and many other heavy
   libraries. All I want is to capture jpeg images - I could write the
   TCP/IP server part myself.


This *might* be close to what you're looking for. It's lightweight and runs 
great.


http://paginas.terra.com.br/informatica/gleicon/video4linux/videodog.html


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Re: [gentoo-user] 'emerge --resume' problem

2005-12-09 Thread Grant
  Hello, I've been recompiling my system with gcc 3.4 and utilizing
  emerge --resume.  The last time I used emerge --resume it started
  emerging firefox and said 1 of 3.  The next time I checked on it,
  firefox had emerged successfully but the process then stopped.  I ran
  emerge --resume again and it started emerging firefox again and again
  said 1 of 3.  Is this a bug?

 If the emerge process stopped at Firefox instead of continuing with the
 next, the Firefox emerge did not complete successfully. That's why resume
 is starting it again.

 Use emerge --resume --skipfirst to emerge the rest of the outstanding
 packages, then emerge Firefox again with logging enabled - set
 PORT_LOGDIR in make.conf.


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Ok, thanks.  Firefox must have failed.

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[gentoo-user] 2.6.14-hardened-r1 kernel causing problems

2005-12-09 Thread Grant
I just updated my laptop from 2.6.11-hardened-r14 to
2.6.14-hardened-r1 and I'm having a couple of strange problems. 
During bootup, I get a message saying that my system doesn't seem to
support devfs or udev.  Once it is booted, I can't use a terminal in
X.  xterm won't start and terminal starts but doesn't display a
prompt.  Does anyone know what's going on here?

- Grant

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.14-hardened-r1 kernel causing problems

2005-12-09 Thread John Jolet


On Dec 9, 2005, at 12:49 PM, Grant wrote:


I just updated my laptop from 2.6.11-hardened-r14 to
2.6.14-hardened-r1 and I'm having a couple of strange problems.
During bootup, I get a message saying that my system doesn't seem to
support devfs or udev.  Once it is booted, I can't use a terminal in
X.  xterm won't start and terminal starts but doesn't display a
prompt.  Does anyone know what's going on here?

- Grant

god, i hope nothingi just updated my vpn/firewall server that way  
and haven't rebooted yet!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Getting rid of gnome-vfs

2005-12-09 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/9/05, Edwin Kapauni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Richard Fish wrote:
  [...]
 
  Equery depends is a little brain damaged here.  It lists _possible_
  dependancies, not real ones.

 Good to know. Is there any more reliable replacement for equery d?

Nothing really simple, but you can script it with something like:

dep=gnome-vfs;  for pkg in `equery depends $dep` ; do
t=`emerge -Dvep =$pkg | grep $dep`
test -n $t  echo $pkg
done

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Framebuffer and kenerl options

2005-12-09 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/9/05, Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Isn't it at the Character Devices?

No, you are thinking of DRM/DRI support, not framebuffer.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.14-hardened-r1 kernel causing problems

2005-12-09 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/9/05, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just updated my laptop from 2.6.11-hardened-r14 to
 2.6.14-hardened-r1 and I'm having a couple of strange problems.
 During bootup, I get a message saying that my system doesn't seem to
 support devfs or udev.  Once it is booted, I can't use a terminal in
 X.  xterm won't start and terminal starts but doesn't display a
 prompt.  Does anyone know what's going on here?

I am assuming you _have_ upgraded to udev, as support for devfs has
been removed from recent kernels?

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Getting rid of gnome-vfs

2005-12-09 Thread ellotheth rimmwen
gentoo-user is reading my mind...

I just had the same firefox-thunderbird/gnome-vfs/equery depends
question this morning, and was on the verge of make a list/forum post.

I wonder if I bleed purple...

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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox/java_vm

2005-12-09 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/8/05, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is it your opinion that this would help my situation with the multiple
 instances? If so I will give it a try tomorrow.

No idea, but it is worth a shot.

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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox/java_vm

2005-12-09 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/9/05, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 looks like I have to build a new kernel

snip

  09:37:26 up 1 day, 16:10,  3 users,  load average: 0.18, 0.20, 0.44
 Linux 2.6.5-gentoo-r1 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+

Yes, you haven't done that for at least a year!

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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox/java_vm

2005-12-09 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Friday 09 December 2005 14:56, a tiny voice compelled Richard Fish to 
write:
 On 12/9/05, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  looks like I have to build a new kernel

 snip

   09:37:26 up 1 day, 16:10,  3 users,  load average: 0.18, 0.20, 0.44
  Linux 2.6.5-gentoo-r1 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+

 Yes, you haven't done that for at least a year!

 -Richard


is NPTL a selectable kernel option? I can't seem to locate it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox/java_vm

2005-12-09 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/9/05, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 is NPTL a selectable kernel option? I can't seem to locate it.


Nope, it is a core kernel function..not configurable.

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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox/java_vm

2005-12-09 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Friday 09 December 2005 15:45, a tiny voice compelled Richard Fish to 
write:
 On 12/9/05, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  is NPTL a selectable kernel option? I can't seem to locate it.

 Nope, it is a core kernel function..not configurable.

 -Richard


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Re: [gentoo-user] system stopped booting

2005-12-09 Thread Manuel McLure

Michael George wrote:

On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 09:57:47PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


About a week later, I booted it and it wouldn't boot.  It got stuck at
configuring system to use udev and never gets okay.  I just sits there
for ever.


My system hangs at this point quite often. I have no idea why - it seems to be quite random but if I try 
again I usually get it to boot. I take it your system never gets past this line on boot?



correct.  I've left it for minutes several times.  Never goes beyond...



Take a look at the following link - it's a known bug in udev and LDAP. 
The workaround is listed in the bug notes.


http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99564

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Re: [gentoo-user] network problem :: new install

2005-12-09 Thread Stroller


On Dec 8, 2005, at 11:14 pm, pat wrote:


I have a new notebook and trying to setup my Gentoo. I've followed the 
Gentoo

handbook and setup the network as DHCP.

But during the boot I have error like this:
eth0 does not exist


Sounds like the driver for your network card isn't loaded. If the NIC 
works with the liveCD but not with the kernel you compiled then you may 
just be able to `modprobe` it in, otherwise you may need to recompile. 
Try running `lsmod` from the LiveCD, and maybe post the output of 
`lspci` here.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Let's make a map of Gentoo users

2005-12-09 Thread Shawn Singh
another Gentoo user in Florida. (Jacksonville)On 12/8/05, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rob Lytle wrote:On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 22:59:21 +0900pclouds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:If you are stillinterested in 
frappr.com, please give one more pointto http://www.frappr.com/linuxusers :)--Bi Cờ Lao--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing listThere may be a bug in the message listing.Or perhaps I have no ideawhat I am doing- it wouldn't be the first time.My message shows up
twice in the same box.Rob LytleMine did too.I can't figure out how to edit it either.That makes mea double Linux nut and a double windoze hater.That last part is OK
though.:-)Dale:-)--To err is human, I'm most certainly human.I have four rigs:1:Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives.
2:Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.3:Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive.4:Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 
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Re: [gentoo-user] genkernal refuses to finish - no initrd

2005-12-09 Thread Peter O'Connor

Neil Bothwick wrote:

When you compile a kernel
manually, you choose which modules you need in the kernel, build those in
and either leave the rest out or compile them as separate modules.

Genkernel is intended to make things easier, and it may do when things
work as they should, but I find it makes life more difficult when
anything goes wrong. Building a kernel manually is not rocket science, it
is easier in the long run.


A lot of people have said not to use genkernel over the past months, but 
I'm going to be one to stand up for it. It is a very customisable tool 
and I find it very useful for all my kernel needs.


When you compile a kernel with genkernel, you too are able to configure 
the kernel by selecting which modules to compile in or leave out simply 
by specifying the --menuconfig option. I prefer the way it handles 
config files by storing them in /etc/kernels after a successful build. 
Next time you build that kernel revision, it will pick the config out 
from that directory by default.


ls /etc/kernels/
kernel-config-x86-2.6.13-rc6-mm2  kernel-config-x86-2.6.15-rc5-mm1

All you have to make sure of is that the filenames match, so if you 
upgrade the kernel revision you just have to copy the previous kernel 
config to match the name of your new kernel revision and build the new 
kernel. After running genkernel I end up with the same kernel that I 
would had I 'compiled it manually', I don't build the initrd as I don't 
require it. Like an automated script it has simply just run the steps 
while I'm off annoying my brother :D I've used genkernel for a fair bit 
now and not a single problem and a seamless transition from devfs to udev.


The problems with genkernel generally come from using the default 
configuration and initrd, which you don't require with a correctly 
configured kernel. I'm sure there would be problems also if you didn't 
alter the original configuration when compiling the kernel manually.

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[gentoo-user] Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-09 Thread Harry Putnam
I'll probably need the asbestos drawers here shortly:

I've burned up several hours here with a grindingly slow compile of
kde. It is an older machine ( a few years) but is a P4 2Ghz and 500MB
ram. Is there an alternative to this?  I mean aside from using a
lighter, faster compiling, X setup.

I've been away from Fedora now for about a year I guess.  I left
Fedora and redhat after nearly 10yrs because the updates had gotten to
where it was every few mnths a full reinstall. I liked gentoo because
one can update cleanly without a full reinstall, but now I'm losing
what seems even more time with really slow compilations

Just on the face of it, it seems somewhat unreasonable with modern
software and powerfull computers, to need to spend this amount of time
just to get working software running.

I seem to recall a kde install being a matter that consumed something
like 1/2 hr on Fedora.  Must be that those packages are already
compiled?

Is that an option for us?

Is there some burning important reason why we need to throw away hours
and hours compiling kde?  Wouldn't a binary distribution of kde serve
as well in most ways?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-09 Thread Jeff
On Friday 09 December 2005 16:55, Harry Putnam wrote:

Check out Kubuntu dude. It's probably right up your alley. This is *not* an 
anti-Gentoo email. I 100% love Gentoo, and will continue to use it!

(Puts asbestos suit back in the drawer...)

 I'll probably need the asbestos drawers here shortly:

 I've burned up several hours here with a grindingly slow compile of
 kde. It is an older machine ( a few years) but is a P4 2Ghz and 500MB
 ram. Is there an alternative to this?  I mean aside from using a
 lighter, faster compiling, X setup.

 I've been away from Fedora now for about a year I guess.  I left
 Fedora and redhat after nearly 10yrs because the updates had gotten to
 where it was every few mnths a full reinstall. I liked gentoo because
 one can update cleanly without a full reinstall, but now I'm losing
 what seems even more time with really slow compilations

 Just on the face of it, it seems somewhat unreasonable with modern
 software and powerfull computers, to need to spend this amount of time
 just to get working software running.

 I seem to recall a kde install being a matter that consumed something
 like 1/2 hr on Fedora.  Must be that those packages are already
 compiled?

 Is that an option for us?

 Is there some burning important reason why we need to throw away hours
 and hours compiling kde?  Wouldn't a binary distribution of kde serve
 as well in most ways?

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.14-hardened-r1 kernel causing problems

2005-12-09 Thread Grant
  I just updated my laptop from 2.6.11-hardened-r14 to
  2.6.14-hardened-r1 and I'm having a couple of strange problems.
  During bootup, I get a message saying that my system doesn't seem to
  support devfs or udev.  Once it is booted, I can't use a terminal in
  X.  xterm won't start and terminal starts but doesn't display a
  prompt.  Does anyone know what's going on here?

 I am assuming you _have_ upgraded to udev, as support for devfs has
 been removed from recent kernels?

 -Richard

I thought I had upgraded to udev but I guess I hadn't.  I followed this:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml

and rebooted and now everything works perfectly.  Thanks Richard!

- Grant

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-09 Thread Tom Smith
Gentoo is a source-based distribution. This means that the software you receive comes in the form of source code. It's up to you to install (which includes compiling) the software with your specific preferences--this is what makes Gentoo what it is.If you like, you can add an emerge option that will build a binary file for you after it's done compiling. Doing this will allow you to install from binary on future or additional installs (if you're setting up more than one system).Installations can take a bit longer than the traditional binary-based distros. However, what you get is a refined Linux install that include only what you asked to be installed. There's no bloat about it--you control every part of the installation. You can also look at it another way: Going through the process of installing Gentoo will make you much more familiar with Linux than your average distro, if you're not already there. ;-D 
   ~ TomHarry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I'll probably need the asbestos drawers here shortly:I've burned up several hours here with a grindingly slow compile ofkde. It is an older machine ( a few years) but is a P4 2Ghz and 500MBram. Is there an alternative to this? I mean aside from using alighter, faster compiling, X setup.I've been away from Fedora now for about a year I guess. I leftFedora and redhat after nearly 10yrs because the updates had gotten towhere it was every few mnths a full reinstall. I liked gentoo becauseone can update cleanly without a full reinstall, but now I'm losingwhat seems even more time with really slow compilationsJust on the face of it, it seems somewhat unreasonable with modernsoftware and powerfull computers, to need to spen!
 d this
 amount of timejust to get working software running.I seem to recall a kde install being a matter that consumed somethinglike 1/2 hr on Fedora. Must be that those packages are alreadycompiled?Is that an option for us?Is there some burning important reason why we need to throw away hoursand hours compiling kde? Wouldn't a binary distribution of kde serveas well in most ways?-- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list  

Re: [gentoo-user] network problem :: new install

2005-12-09 Thread Dale
Stroller wrote:


 On Dec 8, 2005, at 11:14 pm, pat wrote:


 I have a new notebook and trying to setup my Gentoo. I've followed
 the Gentoo
 handbook and setup the network as DHCP.

 But during the boot I have error like this:
 eth0 does not exist


 Sounds like the driver for your network card isn't loaded. If the NIC
 works with the liveCD but not with the kernel you compiled then you
 may just be able to `modprobe` it in, otherwise you may need to
 recompile. Try running `lsmod` from the LiveCD, and maybe post the
 output of `lspci` here.

 Stroller.

I did this once.  It lists the modules that are available but not
loaded.  modprobe -l .  That may help.

Dale
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I have four rigs:

1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 
80GB hard drives.  
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB 
SCSI drive.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-09 Thread Gerhard Hoogterp
On Friday 09 December 2005 23:20, Tom Smith wrote:
 Gentoo is a source-based distribution. This means that the software you
 receive comes in the form of source code. It's up to you to install (which
 includes compiling) the software with your specific preferences--this is
 what makes Gentoo what it is.

While this is true and one of the things that makes gentoo gentoo, there are 
already binary packages in portage. mozilla-bin, openoffice-bin. Mostly big 
packages which take some time to compile. So the idea of having a 
pre-compiled KDE isn't that alien to the world of gentoo..

Gerhard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-09 Thread Dale
Gerhard Hoogterp wrote:

While this is true and one of the things that makes gentoo gentoo, there are 
already binary packages in portage. mozilla-bin, openoffice-bin. Mostly big 
packages which take some time to compile. So the idea of having a 
pre-compiled KDE isn't that alien to the world of gentoo..

Gerhard
  

And to think I still compile Open Office.  I even compiled it on a
400Mhz rig once.  Does anyone type in a command then take a nap?  I'm
disabled and do get some rest but I do wake up on occasion.  LOL

Gentoo is for those who want to compile from source.  Having the option
for binaries may be OK, but I doubt there is enough people going to use
it for all the effort.  Somebody has to still wait on it to finish
compiling.

Dale
:-)

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1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 
80GB hard drives.  
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB 
SCSI drive.

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[gentoo-user] module-init-tools vs. modutils

2005-12-09 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi,


when doing
emerge --update world -pv
I get a blocking dependency:

 sys-apps/module-init-tools (is blocking sys-apps/modutils-2.4.27)

is it save on a 2.6.14.2 kernel to do
emerge --unmerge module-init-tools  emerge modutils
or will I run into trouble?

Sorry for my ignorance, but asking google which package of both I should 
use didn't answer this important question, so I'd be glad if someone 
could confirm if I'm right or even not.


Thanks  best regards


ce

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-09 Thread Tom Smith
Well,I learn something new every day. I recalled reading in one of the Gentoo install docs that there was no way to download binary cuts of apps. Since there are /some/, KDE would probably be a good candidate for this... I agree. (I spent around two days anxiously waiting for KDE to compile.)Another option for the original poster is ccache. The initial install will still take some time but recompiles are said to proceed much faster.~ TomGerhard Hoogterp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  On Friday 09 December 2005 23:20, Tom Smith wrote: Gentoo is a source-based distribution. This means that the software you receive comes in the form of source code. It's up to you to install (which includes compiling) the software with your specific preferences-!
 -this
 is what makes Gentoo what it is.While this is true and one of the things that makes gentoo gentoo, there are already binary packages in portage. mozilla-bin, openoffice-bin. Mostly big packages which take some time to compile. So the idea of having a pre-compiled KDE isn't that alien to the world of gentoo..Gerhard-- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list  

Re: [gentoo-user] Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-09 Thread Chris White
On Saturday 10 December 2005 06:55, Harry Putnam wrote:
 I'll probably need the asbestos drawers here shortly:

 I've burned up several hours here with a grindingly slow compile of
 kde. It is an older machine ( a few years) but is a P4 2Ghz and 500MB
 ram. Is there an alternative to this?  I mean aside from using a
 lighter, faster compiling, X setup.

sure, why are you emerge-ing the full kde?

1) `emerge kdebase`
2) ???
3) Profit!

I'm on a 1.6ghz, and being a dev I compile more packages than most users ever 
will, have patience my son :P.

Chris White


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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.14-hardened-r1 kernel causing problems

2005-12-09 Thread Grant
  I just updated my laptop from 2.6.11-hardened-r14 to
  2.6.14-hardened-r1 and I'm having a couple of strange problems.
  During bootup, I get a message saying that my system doesn't seem to
  support devfs or udev.  Once it is booted, I can't use a terminal in
  X.  xterm won't start and terminal starts but doesn't display a
  prompt.  Does anyone know what's going on here?

 I am assuming you _have_ upgraded to udev, as support for devfs has
 been removed from recent kernels?

 -Richard

I need to update my remote server with this new kernel which means I
need to update that server to udev as well.  Are there any special
precautions to take into consideration when moving a remote system
from devfs to udev?

- Grant

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Re: [gentoo-user] module-init-tools vs. modutils

2005-12-09 Thread Dale
Christoph Eckert wrote:

Hi,


when doing
emerge --update world -pv
I get a blocking dependency:

 sys-apps/module-init-tools (is blocking sys-apps/modutils-2.4.27)

is it save on a 2.6.14.2 kernel to do
emerge --unmerge module-init-tools  emerge modutils
or will I run into trouble?

Sorry for my ignorance, but asking google which package of both I should 
use didn't answer this important question, so I'd be glad if someone 
could confirm if I'm right or even not.


Thanks  best regards


ce

  

If I recall correctly, you need to unmerge modutils and emerge
module-init-tools.  One is for 2.4 kernels and the other is for 2.6
kernels if I recall correctly.  I have done this and it worked fine. 

Dale
:-D

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I have four rigs:

1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 
80GB hard drives.  
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB 
SCSI drive.

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[gentoo-user] caching DNS the Gentoo way?

2005-12-09 Thread michael higgins
Hello, all. Need a clue, here.

I've found that it'll often takes longer to get DNS resolution than content 
over my connection, so I thought a caching DNS server the way to go. With that 
in mind, I installed BIND. 

I couldn't find anything like a quickie Gentoo example of this minimal use of 
the application, so on starting /etc/init.d/named, there was first an error 
about a missing /etc/bind/named.conf. 

I Googled around a bit and found something to start with, watched the syslog 
messages and tweaked it, finally managing to get named to run. The problem is, 
I'm still not convinced that I've got it set up correctly. From what I 
understand (right or wrong, IDK), I should only have to look up something once, 
then that info is available locally until I reboot. Or, like that... 

So, how do I know if this is doing what I want? If anyone knows the right and 
proper way to do this, I'd appreciate it. 

Here's my /etc/bind/named.conf:

- - - - - - -

options {
   directory /var/bind;
   pid-file /var/run/named/named.pid;
};

controls {
   inet 127.0.0.1 allow { localhost; };
};

zone . IN {
   type hint;
   file named.ca;
};

zone localhost IN {
   type master;
   file pri/localhost.zone;
   allow-update { none; };
};

zone 0.0.127.in-addr.arpa IN {
   type master;
   file pri/127.zone;
   allow-update { none; };
};

- - - - - - -

TIA,

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Re: [gentoo-user] module-init-tools vs. modutils

2005-12-09 Thread Christoph Eckert

 If I recall correctly, you need to unmerge modutils and emerge
 module-init-tools.  One is for 2.4 kernels and the other is for 2.6
 kernels if I recall correctly.  I have done this and it worked fine.

this is what I have in mind, and this is what made me careful: I get 
told unmerge module-init-tools and emerge modutils, and this seems to 
be exactly wrong, isn't it? 

So I wonder which circumstance causes my machine to recommend this 
obviously non sense dependency, and how I can resolve this. Any hints 
anyone?


Thanks a lot,


ce

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[gentoo-user] Optimizing XFS, any clues?

2005-12-09 Thread Cláudio Henrique
Greetings,

I have just optimized my EXT3 partitions and now they are running
smooth, and I wanted to do the same with the XFS one. Can somebody
help me?

Is there a way to turn a XFS partition into a EXT3 without loosing data?

Thanks in advance,
Claudio.

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[gentoo-user] Total system hangs, flightgear, nvidia drivers

2005-12-09 Thread fire-eyes
Hell, I am running into some very irritating problems when trying to use
newer nvidia drivers.

Instead of covering the whole story and info here, I have placed it into
this text file.

I sure would appreciate some input!

http://fire-eyes.org/temp/badness.txt
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Re: [gentoo-user] caching DNS the Gentoo way?

2005-12-09 Thread Jerry McBride
On Friday 09 December 2005 18:20, michael higgins wrote:
 Hello, all. Need a clue, here.


---snip---

 ... I should only have to look up
 something once, then that info is available locally until I reboot. Or,
 like that...

 So, how do I know if this is doing what I want? If anyone knows the right
 and proper way to do this, I'd appreciate it.


Turn off the browser cache, then make a test... call up a website and time the 
lookup time then do it gain, then again. Does the second call take less 
time than the first? How about the the third?

No? Then have a look at the logfiles, whereever you have them and see what's 
going on. If you totally strike out... then reach me via email and I'll see 
if I can help you futher.

Jerry


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Re: [gentoo-user] Total system hangs, flightgear, nvidia drivers

2005-12-09 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/9/05, fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hell, I am running into some very irritating problems when trying to use
 newer nvidia drivers.

 Instead of covering the whole story and info here, I have placed it into
 this text file.

 I sure would appreciate some input!

Well, I don't use the nvidia driver, so I'm certainly no expert here, but:

(WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode 896x672 (height 1344 is larger than
(WW) NVIDIA(0):  EDID-specified maximum 1200)

and:

Section Device
snip
Option  UseEdidFreqs on
#Option UseEdidFreqs off
#Option IgnoreEDID 1
#Option UseEdidDpi DFP-0

What happens if you play with these EDID options?  Particularly, the
UseEdidFreqs looks like a likely candiate to be disabled.

-Richard

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[gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14-gentoo-r4/nvidia

2005-12-09 Thread Ernie Schroder
While trying to eliminate another problem, I built a new kernel, booted to it 
and unmerged and emerged nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx. I then started X. So 
far, so good. I tried to open a konsole and got pty permission errors. I 
rebooted to my 2.6.5 kernel, did some research and emerged udev 
(/usr/src/linux points to the new kernel.)
I then rebooted the new kernel and can not start X I get errors saying it 
can't load the nvidia module. Do I need to creat a device node for the nvidia 
card? A little help here or a point in the right direction. 

Odd thing is, I didn't need to unmerge/remerge the nvidia pakages for 2.6.5 to 
run X in this kernel.
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[gentoo-user] (mostly) good news!

2005-12-09 Thread maxim wexler
Hello everybody,

Imagine my relief and joy when the boot process sailed
past the point of no return and dropped me into my new
gentoo environment on a heretofore unreachable SATA
partition.

What I did was, after chrooting to it, I ran pon then
emerge --sync  emerge -Du system  emerge -Du
gentoo-sources. Phew! 24 hours -- no phone!

I'm now using the 2.6.14-r4 kernel. As opposed to the
*r2 which didn't seem to work

--the bad news

Using my grub floppy I can get in but PPP balks at:
...
pppd: Serial connection established
pppd: Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Invalid
argument.
...
and it hangs up.

The only thing that's changed is that I've modularized
the PPP drivers and have to modprobe them. But all the
config files: resolv, secrets etc are the same as
before when I would boot the LiveCD, mount and chroot
to the SATA partition /dev/sda6 which held my
fully(except for the booting part) functioning OS, and
from where the web was accessible via pon and PPP.

So I'm still stuck as far as using web is concerned
with the OS on my IDE drive where pon also works a la
sudo.

Here's grep =[ym] for the new kernel in case some
sharp-eyed soul might see the source of my difficulty.
Or even of my triumph over non-bootingness since at
best I was making educated guesses about what works
and what doesn't :)

CONFIG_X86=y
CONFIG_SEMAPHORE_SLEEPERS=y
CONFIG_MMU=y
CONFIG_UID16=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_ISA_DMA=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_IOMAP=y
CONFIG_ARCH_MAY_HAVE_PC_FDC=y
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y
CONFIG_CLEAN_COMPILE=y
CONFIG_BROKEN_ON_SMP=y
CONFIG_LOCK_KERNEL=y
CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO=y
CONFIG_SWAP=y
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
CONFIG_POSIX_MQUEUE=y
CONFIG_SYSCTL=y
CONFIG_AUDIT=y
CONFIG_AUDITSYSCALL=y
CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y
CONFIG_KOBJECT_UEVENT=y
CONFIG_KALLSYMS=y
CONFIG_PRINTK=y
CONFIG_BUG=y
CONFIG_BASE_FULL=y
CONFIG_FUTEX=y
CONFIG_EPOLL=y
CONFIG_SHMEM=y
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD=y
CONFIG_OBSOLETE_MODPARM=y
CONFIG_KMOD=y
CONFIG_X86_PC=y
CONFIG_M586=y
CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG=y
CONFIG_X86_XADD=y
CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_CALIBRATE_DELAY=y
CONFIG_X86_PPRO_FENCE=y
CONFIG_X86_F00F_BUG=y
CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y
CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y
CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_ALIGNMENT_16=y
CONFIG_PREEMPT=y
CONFIG_PREEMPT_BKL=y
CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC=y
CONFIG_X86_LOCAL_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_IO_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_MCE=y
CONFIG_X86_CPUID=m
CONFIG_DCDBAS=m
CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y
CONFIG_SELECT_MEMORY_MODEL=y
CONFIG_FLATMEM_MANUAL=y
CONFIG_FLATMEM=y
CONFIG_FLAT_NODE_MEM_MAP=y
CONFIG_MTRR=y
CONFIG_SECCOMP=y
CONFIG_HZ_250=y
CONFIG_PM=y
CONFIG_ACPI=y
CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=m
CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=m
CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=m
CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y
CONFIG_PCI=y
CONFIG_PCI_GOANY=y
CONFIG_PCI_BIOS=y
CONFIG_PCI_DIRECT=y
CONFIG_PCI_MMCONFIG=y
CONFIG_ISA_DMA_API=y
CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI=m
CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_FAKE=m
CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI=m
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=m
CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=m
CONFIG_NET=y
CONFIG_PACKET=m
CONFIG_UNIX=m
CONFIG_INET=y
CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST=y
CONFIG_IP_FIB_HASH=y
CONFIG_TCP_CONG_BIC=y
CONFIG_STANDALONE=y
CONFIG_PREVENT_FIRMWARE_BUILD=y
CONFIG_FW_LOADER=m
CONFIG_CONNECTOR=m
CONFIG_PARPORT=m
CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=m
CONFIG_PARPORT_SERIAL=m
CONFIG_PARPORT_1284=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=m
CONFIG_IOSCHED_NOOP=y
CONFIG_IOSCHED_AS=m
CONFIG_IOSCHED_DEADLINE=m
CONFIG_IOSCHED_CFQ=m
CONFIG_IDE=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=y
CONFIG_IDE_GENERIC=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI=y
CONFIG_IDEPCI_SHARE_IRQ=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_GENERIC=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_AMD74XX=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SIIMAGE=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y
CONFIG_SCSI=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y
CONFIG_SCSI_SATA=y
CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_NV=y
CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_SIL=y
CONFIG_SCSI_QLA2XXX=y
CONFIG_IEEE1394=y
CONFIG_IEEE1394_OHCI1394=y
CONFIG_IEEE1394_RAWIO=y
CONFIG_NETDEVICES=y
CONFIG_DUMMY=m
CONFIG_NET_ETHERNET=y
CONFIG_MII=m
CONFIG_NET_PCI=y
CONFIG_FORCEDETH=m
CONFIG_S2IO=m
CONFIG_PLIP=m
CONFIG_PPP=m
CONFIG_SLIP=m
CONFIG_INPUT=y
CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=y
CONFIG_INPUT_KEYBOARD=y
CONFIG_KEYBOARD_ATKBD=y
CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSE=y
CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=y
CONFIG_SERIO=y
CONFIG_SERIO_I8042=y
CONFIG_SERIO_LIBPS2=y
CONFIG_VT=y
CONFIG_VT_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_HW_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_SERIAL_8250=y
CONFIG_SERIAL_CORE=y
CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS=y
CONFIG_PRINTER=m
CONFIG_NVRAM=m
CONFIG_RTC=m
CONFIG_GEN_RTC=m
CONFIG_AGP=m
CONFIG_AGP_NVIDIA=m
CONFIG_DRM=m
CONFIG_DRM_RADEON=m
CONFIG_I2C=m
CONFIG_I2C_ALGOBIT=m
CONFIG_FB=m
CONFIG_FB_CFB_FILLRECT=m
CONFIG_FB_CFB_COPYAREA=m
CONFIG_FB_CFB_IMAGEBLIT=m
CONFIG_FB_SOFT_CURSOR=m
CONFIG_FB_MODE_HELPERS=y
CONFIG_FB_NVIDIA=m
CONFIG_FB_NVIDIA_I2C=y
CONFIG_FB_RADEON_OLD=m
CONFIG_FB_RADEON=m
CONFIG_FB_RADEON_I2C=y
CONFIG_FB_RADEON_DEBUG=y
CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_SOUND=m
CONFIG_SND=m
CONFIG_SND_TIMER=m
CONFIG_SND_PCM=m
CONFIG_SND_RAWMIDI=m
CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER=m
CONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL=y
CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS=m
CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=m
CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER_OSS=y

Re: [gentoo-user] caching DNS the Gentoo way?

2005-12-09 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/9/05, michael higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've found that it'll often takes longer to get DNS resolution than content 
 over my connection, so I thought a caching DNS server the way to go. With 
 that in mind, I installed BIND.

nscd does this, and is much simpler.  It is already installed as part
of glibc.  Just do rc-update -a nscd default.

 From what I understand (right or wrong, IDK), I should only have to look up 
 something once, then that info is available locally until I reboot. Or, like 
 that...

It will cache until named is restarted, or the lookup expires.  The
lookup expiration time is determined by the authoritative name server
for that domain.

 So, how do I know if this is doing what I want? If anyone knows the right and 
 proper way to do this, I'd appreciate it.

From one terminal:

tcpdump dst port 53

From another terminal:

ping -c 4 google.com
ping -c 4 google.com

If you see domain queries being sent when you do the second ping, then
you are not caching.

BTW, if you really want to use named for this, your /etc/resolv.conf
should contain only nameserver 127.0.0.1.  If you are use nscd, then
resolv.conf can be left as is.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Optimizing XFS, any clues?

2005-12-09 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/9/05, Cláudio Henrique [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greetings,

 I have just optimized my EXT3 partitions and now they are running
 smooth, and I wanted to do the same with the XFS one. Can somebody
 help me?

What do you mean by optimized?

xfs_fsr will defragment an xfs partition.

 Is there a way to turn a XFS partition into a EXT3 without loosing data?

tar -c  umount  mkfs.ext3  mount  tar -x

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Re: [gentoo-user] caching DNS the Gentoo way?

2005-12-09 Thread Shawn Haggett

michael higgins wrote:


Hello, all. Need a clue, here.

I've found that it'll often takes longer to get DNS resolution than content over my connection, so I thought a caching DNS server the way to go. With that in mind, I installed BIND. 

I couldn't find anything like a quickie Gentoo example of this minimal use of the application, so on starting /etc/init.d/named, there was first an error about a missing /etc/bind/named.conf. 

I Googled around a bit and found something to start with, watched the syslog messages and tweaked it, finally managing to get named to run. The problem is, I'm still not convinced that I've got it set up correctly. From what I understand (right or wrong, IDK), I should only have to look up something once, then that info is available locally until I reboot. Or, like that... 
 

Check your /etc/resolv.conf file. Make sure it lists your local machine 
as a nameserver. Otherwise your system will ignore it and just use 
whatever sever is listed in there. Also be careful, if you use DHCP on a 
network or anything, it might be rewriting the resolv.conf file to have 
the nameserver entries that are gotten from DHCP.


What sort of set-up is this? Is this a single machine by itself 
connected to the internet, or is this part of a network? If it's part of 
a network, do you want it to also cache all the queries for other 
clients on the network?


Shawn
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Re: [gentoo-user] sata drive on abit fatal1ty an8-sli

2005-12-09 Thread maxim wexler

   the dev tree? I didn't have anything like
 /dev/sda.

Oops, sorry, I didn't see this part. If the SATA
drivers are loaded when LiveCD boots it should see the
drive. I'm currently having a tussle w/ a SATA drive
myself(mostly resolved)

from dmesg:

...
[   31.970006] nv_sata: Primary device added
[   31.970021] nv_sata: Primary device removed
[   31.970036] nv_sata: Secondary device removed
[   31.970052] ata1: dev 0 configured for UDMA/100
[   31.970068] scsi0 : sata_nv
[   32.170535] ata2: no device found (phy stat
)
[   32.170551] scsi1 : sata_nv
[   32.170637]   Vendor: ATA   Model: WDC
WD1200JD-00G  Rev: 02.0
[   32.170770]   Type:   Direct-Access
 ANSI SCSI 
[   32.171366] SCSI device sda: 234441648 512-byte
hdwr sectors (120034 MB)
[   32.171390] SCSI device sda: drive cache: write
back
[   32.171445] SCSI device sda: 234441648 512-byte
hdwr sectors (120034 MB)
[   32.171467] SCSI device sda: drive cache: write
back
[   32.171484]  sda: sda1 sda2 sda3  sda5 sda6 sda7 
[   32.217661] Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0,
channel 0, id 0, lun 0
...

Does the drive show up in the POST? If not there I
don't think gentoo will see it either.

If you run lsmod after LiveCD boots you'll see what
drivers it loaded.

-mw








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Re: [gentoo-user] module-init-tools vs. modutils

2005-12-09 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/9/05, Christoph Eckert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So I wonder which circumstance causes my machine to recommend this
 obviously non sense dependency, and how I can resolve this. Any hints
 anyone?

Output of emerge --info and emerge -Duvpt world please.

Nothing in the current portage tree depends on sys-apps/modutils, only
virtual/modutils.  And for every profile except embedded,
virtual/modutils defaults to sys-apps/module-init-tools.

-RIchard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Total system hangs, flightgear, nvidia drivers

2005-12-09 Thread fire-eyes
Richard Fish wrote:
 On 12/9/05, fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Hell, I am running into some very irritating problems when trying to use
newer nvidia drivers.

Instead of covering the whole story and info here, I have placed it into
this text file.

I sure would appreciate some input!
 
 
 Well, I don't use the nvidia driver, so I'm certainly no expert here, but:
 
 (WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode 896x672 (height 1344 is larger than
 (WW) NVIDIA(0):  EDID-specified maximum 1200)
 
 and:
 
 Section Device
 snip
 OptionUseEdidFreqs on
 #Option   UseEdidFreqs off
 #Option   IgnoreEDID 1
 #Option   UseEdidDpi DFP-0
 
 What happens if you play with these EDID options?  Particularly, the
 UseEdidFreqs looks like a likely candiate to be disabled.
 
 -Richard
 


I have messed with them (hence the comments), no change. Those EDID
maxes are surely bogus, I have run 2048x1536 (real, not virtual) on this
before no problems, within spec. Only with the newer driver does it
complain. Even if i tell it to ignore EDID.

Thank you for the reply :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 23:35:43 +0100, Gerhard Hoogterp wrote:


 While this is true and one of the things that makes gentoo gentoo,
 there are already binary packages in portage. mozilla-bin,
 openoffice-bin. Mostly big packages which take some time to compile. So
 the idea of having a pre-compiled KDE isn't that alien to the world of
 gentoo..

Those binary packages are supplied by upstream, it's not the same as the
Gentoo devs providing compiled packages, although they do in the GRP
collections.

It's no big deal upgrading KDE anyway. Set PORTAGE_NICENESS to a suitable
value and you can keep using the computer while the new KDE is compiled
in the background. KDE is slotted, so installing 3.5 has no effect on the
3.4.x version you are currently using.


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[gentoo-user] X.org can't get up

2005-12-09 Thread Rafael Fernández López
Hi,

I've done an emerge -vuD world, and udev was updated to 077-r3. Now my
computer can't get up X.org, and cannot recognize devices.

Is this a bug ?? Everything worked perfectly until I rebooted with this
new udev version. I have lots of kernel versions, but none of them will
work (the last one that I've installed is
gentoo-sources-2.6.14-gentoo-r4).

Bye,
Rafael Fernández López.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14-gentoo-r4/nvidia

2005-12-09 Thread Matthew Cline
I think you are having the same problem that I did:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112976


HTH,

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Re: [gentoo-user] caching DNS the Gentoo way?

2005-12-09 Thread michael higgins
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 10:42:22 +1030
Shawn Haggett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 michael higgins wrote:
 
 Hello, all. Need a clue, here.
 
 I've found that it'll often takes longer to get DNS resolution than content 
 over my connection, so I thought a caching DNS server the way to go. With 
 that in mind, I installed BIND. 
 
 I couldn't find anything like a quickie Gentoo example of this minimal use 
 of the application, so on starting /etc/init.d/named, there was first an 
 error about a missing /etc/bind/named.conf. 
 
 I Googled around a bit and found something to start with, watched the syslog 
 messages and tweaked it, finally managing to get named to run. The problem 
 is, I'm still not convinced that I've got it set up correctly. From what I 
 understand (right or wrong, IDK), I should only have to look up something 
 once, then that info is available locally until I reboot. Or, like that... 
   
 
 Check your /etc/resolv.conf file. Make sure it lists your local machine 
 as a nameserver. Otherwise your system will ignore it and just use 
 whatever sever is listed in there. Also be careful, if you use DHCP on a 
 network or anything, it might be rewriting the resolv.conf file to have 
 the nameserver entries that are gotten from DHCP.

Okay. I don't use DHCP. I edited /etc/resolv.conf to take out the ISP 
nameservers and put 'localhost' in their place. Do I need to restart something 
to make this change take effect?

 
 What sort of set-up is this? Is this a single machine by itself 
 connected to the internet,

Just a single machine behind a router/firewall to DSL.

 or is this part of a network? If it's part of 
 a network, do you want it to also cache all the queries for other 
 clients on the network?
 

Just for this box.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-09 Thread Dale
Chris White wrote:

On Saturday 10 December 2005 06:55, Harry Putnam wrote:
  

I'll probably need the asbestos drawers here shortly:

I've burned up several hours here with a grindingly slow compile of
kde. It is an older machine ( a few years) but is a P4 2Ghz and 500MB
ram. Is there an alternative to this?  I mean aside from using a
lighter, faster compiling, X setup.



sure, why are you emerge-ing the full kde?

1) `emerge kdebase`
2) ???
3) Profit!

I'm on a 1.6ghz, and being a dev I compile more packages than most users ever 
will, have patience my son :P.

Chris White
  

He should have been here when I installed Gentoo on a 200Mhz machine.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] X.org can't get up

2005-12-09 Thread Dale
Rafael Fernández López wrote:

Hi,

I've done an emerge -vuD world, and udev was updated to 077-r3. Now my
computer can't get up X.org, and cannot recognize devices.

Is this a bug ?? Everything worked perfectly until I rebooted with this
new udev version. I have lots of kernel versions, but none of them will
work (the last one that I've installed is
gentoo-sources-2.6.14-gentoo-r4).

Bye,
Rafael Fernández López.

  

I saw this earlier:

On Friday 09 December 2005 16:04, Simon Hogg wrote:
  

 I was suffering from this same problem and it does appear to be a bug
 in udev-077-r1 (-r2 is now in ~x86 but I've not tried it yet).

 The solution that someone else came up with (calr0x on the forums) was
 to run udevstart once the system is running, this causes all of the
 device nodes for the installed kernel modules to be created.

 Simon



Upgraded to udev-077-r2 and did udevstart. Everything is fine now.

Thanks,
Mrugesh

Try that and see if it helps.

Dale
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3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.
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Re: [gentoo-user] caching DNS the Gentoo way?

2005-12-09 Thread michael higgins
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 17:08:55 -0700
Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 12/9/05, michael higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've found that it'll often takes longer to get DNS resolution than content 
  over my connection, so I thought a caching DNS server the way to go. With 
  that in mind, I installed BIND.
 
 nscd does this, and is much simpler.  It is already installed as part
 of glibc.  Just do rc-update -a nscd default.

Ah. Now, that sounds like the better way to go.

 
  From what I understand (right or wrong, IDK), I should only have to look up 
  something once, then that info is available locally until I reboot. Or, 
  like that...
 
 It will cache until named is restarted, or the lookup expires.  The
 lookup expiration time is determined by the authoritative name server
 for that domain.
 
  So, how do I know if this is doing what I want? If anyone knows the right 
  and proper way to do this, I'd appreciate it.
 
 From one terminal:
 
 tcpdump dst port 53
 
 From another terminal:
 
 ping -c 4 google.com
 ping -c 4 google.com
 
 If you see domain queries being sent when you do the second ping, then
 you are not caching.
 

Excellent, thanks! I'm emerging tcpdump as I type.

Well, the test is the ticket. The thing I needed was to change 
/etc/resolv.conf. 

Now it begins to make sense to me. 

 BTW, if you really want to use named for this, your /etc/resolv.conf
 should contain only nameserver 127.0.0.1.  If you are use nscd, then
 resolv.conf can be left as is.
 

Okay. Too bad I didn't ask the list first. It sure looked like BIND was 
overkill, but I didn't come across another option.

Thanks again,

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Re: [gentoo-user] (mostly) good news!

2005-12-09 Thread Dale
maxim wexler wrote:

Hello everybody,

Imagine my relief and joy when the boot process sailed
past the point of no return and dropped me into my new
gentoo environment on a heretofore unreachable SATA
partition.

What I did was, after chrooting to it, I ran pon then
emerge --sync  emerge -Du system  emerge -Du
gentoo-sources. Phew! 24 hours -- no phone!

I'm now using the 2.6.14-r4 kernel. As opposed to the
*r2 which didn't seem to work

--the bad news

Using my grub floppy I can get in but PPP balks at:
...
pppd: Serial connection established
pppd: Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Invalid
argument.
...
and it hangs up.

The only thing that's changed is that I've modularized
the PPP drivers and have to modprobe them. But all the
config files: resolv, secrets etc are the same as
before when I would boot the LiveCD, mount and chroot
to the SATA partition /dev/sda6 which held my
fully(except for the booting part) functioning OS, and
from where the web was accessible via pon and PPP.

So I'm still stuck as far as using web is concerned
with the OS on my IDE drive where pon also works a la
sudo.

Here's grep =[ym] for the new kernel in case some
sharp-eyed soul might see the source of my difficulty.
Or even of my triumph over non-bootingness since at
best I was making educated guesses about what works
and what doesn't :)
  

Well, I don't know about everybody else but I compile my ppp stuff in my
kernel.  pon and poff works fine here.  May be worth a shot.

This is how my config looks:

 *   PPP (point-to-point protocol) support
  [ ] PPP multilink support (EXPERIMENTAL)
  [*] PPP filtering   
 * PPP support for async serial ports   
 * PPP support for sync tty ports
  * PPP Deflate compression
 * PPP BSD-Compress compression  

That is from the config screen itself, not the .config file.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14-gentoo-r4/nvidia

2005-12-09 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Friday 09 December 2005 19:30, a tiny voice compelled Matthew Cline to 
write:
 I think you are having the same problem that I did:

 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112976


 HTH,

 Matt


Thanks for the info. you saved me a lot of time and energy. I don't know why I 
thought creating the nodes and setting perms would work while booted to the 
old kernel... Thank God for bash history.

For anyone else with the same problem:
# mknod /dev/nvidia0 c 195 0
# mknod /dev/nvidiactl c 195 255
# chmod 666 /dev/nvidia*

And you should be good to go
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