[gentoo-user] Re: unformat a partition
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:54:33 -0800, Robert Persson wrote: On Thursday 16 March 2006 09:15 Nick Smith was like: i just accidentally blew away my ntfs partition with the gentoo install cd (formatted hda1 instead of hdb1) is there a way to unformat if it was just done? like undo the format information? i formatted with ext3. IMPORTANT: Please don't follow the following advice until you have had a second opinion from someone else—I think this will work, but I can't swear it will: Good advice... Reformat to NTFS and then use a recovery tool. If I remember right, windows fdisk is pretty insistent on doing a low level format, so you would be safer using the gnu tool for formatting. I don't know whether the gnu ntfs tools are up to the recovery job, or whether you need to use something proprietary. No. fdisk does not formatting at all. It just writes to the partition table. People run fdisk /mbr for example to rewrite the master partition table. I still think it may be better to edit the partition table directly and change the filetype of the partition to NTFS: type 0x07. Even if cfdisk you can change the type on the fly. Then reboot and see if you can mount it. fdisk is non-destructive to the partition's data. It's the format command where you have to make a choice to do a quick format or a complete one. A quick format does not erase data, but does clean out the fat tables. If that happens, you will have to extract the data manually. Try the cfdisk trick first. Then, experiment with some of the myriad Windows tools. Remember to make a full image of the partition in question and the partition table before trying these changes so you can go back to square 1 if need be. If you are lucky you may be able to read the old data on the newly created partition without needing to use a recovery tool (I was able to do that with a linux partition once—can't remember if it was reiserfs or ext3), but I would copy all the files somewhere safe in any case because even very minor corruption could come back to haunt you later (as many theologians never tire of reminding us). -- Robert Persson Conspiracy Bears: Once upon a time there were lots of conspiracy bears... -- Peter -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Disk Partitioning
On Thursday 16 Mar 2006 18:58, Rick van Hattem wrote: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1k count=100 Thanks for the help That worked It is now only showing sda1 Paul -- This message has been sent using kmail with gentoo linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] gdm keeps restarting after xorg update (was removing xorg 7)
after an emerge -e xorg-x11 i got xorg 7 working again however when i start gdm it just keeps restarting with no errors given startx is working fine inface that's how i got into the system to write this message :) so any idea about what could be the problem? thx -- Cheers, Ghaith -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] What on Earth is Portage doing for so long?
I see that portage is updating its cache for about 20 minutes these days!!! This is on an Athlon 600MHz box with 384MB PC133. Updating Portage cache: 50% Just trying to do a sync Tom Veldhouse -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What on Earth is Portage doing for so long?
On 3/17/06, Thomas T. Veldhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see that portage is updating its cache for about 20 minutes these days!!! This is on an Athlon 600MHz box with 384MB PC133. Updating Portage cache: 50% Just trying to do a sync Good question :) But one way to speed this up is to use CDB, so that instead of keeping cache in separate files, it's all in one, resulting in a *much* faster cache update. There are directions here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb HTH -- Bruno Lustosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lustosa.net/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What on Earth is Portage doing for so long?
Bruno Lustosa wrote: Good question :) But one way to speed this up is to use CDB, so that instead of keeping cache in separate files, it's all in one, resulting in a *much* faster cache update. There are directions here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb Interesting ... and thanks for the tip. I am concerned about all the warnings of breakage though. I need this on my server, which is my production firewall at the moment. I would hate to have this fail. Tom Veldhouse -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What on Earth is Portage doing for so long?
On 3/17/06, Bruno Lustosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/17/06, Thomas T. Veldhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see that portage is updating its cache for about 20 minutes these days!!! This is on an Athlon 600MHz box with 384MB PC133. Updating Portage cache: 50% Just trying to do a sync Good question :) But one way to speed this up is to use CDB, so that instead of keeping cache in separate files, it's all in one, resulting in a *much* faster cache update. There are directions here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb New versions of portage are using a different approuch on metadata and cache, after sync'ng, a week later it took like 1 minute to update the cache with the new version. My advice, update portage, emerge --metadata, wait for it to finish (yes, will take a LOT of time, your machine is below 1GHz, wich will slow it even more), but in the end, you'll update much faster. CDB is just a workaround and you can't use it with the most recent version of portage. -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What on Earth is Portage doing for so long?
Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: Bruno Lustosa wrote: Good question :) But one way to speed this up is to use CDB, so that instead of keeping cache in separate files, it's all in one, resulting in a *much* faster cache update. There are directions here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb Interesting ... and thanks for the tip. I am concerned about all the warnings of breakage though. I need this on my server, which is my production firewall at the moment. I would hate to have this fail. Well, you know, in worst case, portage doesn't work anymore. In this case, you'd just have to revert your changes, and everything's fine again. Alexander Skwar -- Linux: Where Don't We Want To Go Today? -- Submitted by Pancrazio De Mauro, paraphrasing some well-known sales talk -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What on Earth is Portage doing for so long?
On Friday 17 March 2006 15:02, Bruno Lustosa wrote: Good question :) But one way to speed this up is to use CDB, so that instead of keeping cache in separate files, it's all in one, resulting in a *much* faster cache update. There are directions here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb And if you go back one step you'll find other ways to speed up Portage. http://gentoo-wiki.com/Index:TIP#Portage_Speed What I do is keep $PORTDIR and $DISTDIR on seperate partitions. Having a small partition for $PORTDIR ensures that all of Portage will be in the same place on the harddrive. $DISTDIR is on a separate partition because otherwise it wouldn't be a small partition. ;) $PKGDIR is not on a separate partition because I don't use it. Also Portage 2.1 (which is not supported by cdb) is nice. :) -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What on Earth is Portage doing for so long?
On 3/17/06, Thomas T. Veldhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruno Lustosa wrote: Good question :) But one way to speed this up is to use CDB, so that instead of keeping cache in separate files, it's all in one, resulting in a *much* faster cache update. There are directions here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb Interesting ... and thanks for the tip. I am concerned about all the warnings of breakage though. I need this on my server, which is my production firewall at the moment. I would hate to have this fail. A safer way is to update to a newer version of portage. In portage-2.1 the cache update code is rewritten and it is much faster then before (but maybe not as fast as CDB). The biggest reason for the slower update now compared to a year ago, is that the total number of packages in the tree have increased. The old code did not handle this very well. Since this is a server, you probably don't use kde. Excluding all kde split packages from the portage tree will speed things up a lot. Create an rsync exclude file and add RSYNC_EXCLUDE=path_to_file to your make.conf. Look in man pages for rsync for details. /Andreas -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: unformat a partition
thanks for the replies, i was actually able to get the data off the drive with getdataback, i can rest easy now. thanks again Nick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] suspend2 problem
yeah its possible, its just not stable on with most video cardsOn 3/15/06, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 20:25 +1100, David Helstroom wrote: Pablasso wrote: if you have your video driver with dri/drm (3d acceleration) activated, thats the problem, suspend2 currently does not work along with 3d acceleration so you have to choose beetween them. Hi Pablasso, Perhaps I misunderstand, but suspend2 has long worked alongside 3d acceleration. In my experience, some of the proprietary graphics drivers (ATI's fglrx for example) do not work at all. However I use the X.org included Radeon drivers (and standard Radeon DRI kernel model) and have had no problems whatsoever. It could be a different story for the card in your machine (a Rage II by the looks of it). $ glxinfo | grep renderdirect rendering: YesOpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 20040929 AGP 4x x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL$ uname -aLinux neuromancer 2.6.14-suspend2-r6 #1 PREEMPT Sun Dec 4 18:21:04 MYT 2005 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1400MHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux--Ow Mun HengGentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM98% Microsoft(tm) Free!!Neuromancer 18:11:55 up 2 days, 20:14, 5 users, load average: 1.41,1.23, 0.76--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: unformat a partition
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:09:37 -0500, Nick Smith wrote: thanks for the replies, i was actually able to get the data off the drive with getdataback, i can rest easy now. thanks again Nick Aren't you the lucky one!! Bet you'll never do _that_ again! However, it's important to have a list of useful programs that help in just this kind of circumstance. You _never_ know when you may need it. I'd never heard of getdataback, but will take a look. Glad this had a happy ending. Now, you should develop a good backup routine. -- Peter -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: unformat a partition
Aren't you the lucky one!! Bet you'll never do _that_ again! However, it's important to have a list of useful programs that help in just this kind of circumstance. You _never_ know when you may need it. I'd never heard of getdataback, but will take a look. Glad this had a happy ending. Now, you should develop a good backup routine. -- well i had one, i was keeping multiple copies of my files on shares over my network, but over time i had alot of different versions of my files, i moved them all onto my laptop so i could consolidate them and then move them back onto my server, but at the same time was playing with installing gentoo on this new laptop. ive never had two HDs in a laptop before and without thinking did mke2fs -j /dev/hda1 during the install and blew away my ntfs partition that i was going to dual boot and that had all my freshly moved files on ;-) i cant believe i was that incredibly stupid, but yes i hope i never do that again. getting in a hurry only makes problems. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] livecd 586 boxen
Hi everybody, For those who haven't noticed yet the 2006.0 LiveCD doesn't seem to work on K6's etc. A look at the docs confirms this: not all architectures supported. Guess that 686 in the filename should have warned me away. Sheesh! 75 hrs downloading for nothing! Trying the min-install... -Maxim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] SquidGuard blacklist databases available and maintained?
Does anybody know if there are still squidGuard blacklist databases that are actively maintained? It appears that the author of squidGuard ceased maintaining the blacklist database there as of about 5 to 6 months ago. Thanks in advance, Tom Veldhouse -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: QT 4
Uwe Thiem uwix at iway.na writes: Just out of interest how far along is qt4? Last time I looked the next major release of kde *might* be using it, if it becomes stable in time. Is this still the case? The current version is Qt-4.1.1 AFAIK and it's pretty stable. KDE4 will be based on Qt4, no if. Hello Uwe, So when will we see KDE-4? A group is coallescing together to develop a SCADA package and associated tools, much like National Instrument's Lookout, which is part of Labview. Would you be willing to provide some QT4 architectural issues advise, as we formalize a formal plan? Graphical creation of industrial devices, such as valves, pumps, tanks, guages and many types of machines and instruments, with animation and inserts of actual equipment pictures, all in a SCADA package is of keen interest to this development effort. If any other Gentoo-users have a keen interest in remote controls and SCADA tools sililar to National Intruments Labview, drop me a line with a brief message about your interests. SNMPv3 and many industrial protocols, such as modbusTCP will be supported. James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is my postfix being used as a relay?
On 3/16/06, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 14:52 -0500, JimD wrote: On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:12:28 -0800 Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get a lot of bounce messages from Postfix relating to emails that are not actually from me, and the mail q shows lots of stuff I don't recognize. I'd like to know how to interpret this, and if it is called-for, to secure this daemon a bit more. Try this link: http://www.spamhelp.org/shopenrelay/ Just put in the IP and port and click the button.which automatically notifies a list of spammers that they can use your mail server... no not really ;)Do you have a firewall?Should your box be accessible from outside?You could lock it down so _no_one_ outside can access it, or you couldrestrict it to certain ip's... But I also get a few bounce messages from me about emails I neverwrote - once your email address is out there, spammers use it as theirfrom address, even if they're not using your mail server for a relay. sucks. Yes, I expose this machine's port 25 on purpose. So I would like to make it a good netizen. I had done this with sendmail in previous distros, but am a neophyte with Postfix. Right now I want to verify if I have (or am) a problem. ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] Is my postfix being used as a relay?
Yes, I expose this machine's port 25 on purpose. So I would like to make it a good netizen. I had done this with sendmail in previous distros, but am a neophyte with Postfix. Right now I want to verify if I have (or am) a problem. with postfix, it will, by default ONLY accept mail for which it considers itself the final destination for, or destinations that are in relay_domains. typically, out of the box, it will not relay mail for anyone, though it will accept mail for it, as resolved from the box's fqdn, or mydestination. I have mine set up to also allow you to relay if you authenticate (using sasl, via pam...or pam via sasl, if you want to look at it that way). basically that means I can send mail using this server from any network, as long as I set my client up to authenticate on send. but you can't randomly use it as a relay. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Bind Problem
Hi, I have one problem with bind. I am getting answer from dns server for dig command but there is no MX entry. Any idea whats wrong? Below is the configuration file for master zone and dig command ouput is also given. ###server1.guru.com.zone##$TTL 86400@INSOAserver1.guru.com. root.server1.guru.com . (0 ; serial300 ; refresh (5 minutes)10 ; retry (10 seconds)86400 ; expire (1 day)600 ; minimum (10 minutes)) @INNSserver1.guru.com.@INMX10 server1.guru.com. server1.guru.com.INA192.168.0.2server2.guru.com.INA192.168.0.3 win2k.guru.com.INA192.168.0.1 www1CNAMEserver1.guru.com.www2CNAMEserver2.guru.com.www3CNAMEwin2k.guru.com. @INMX0server1.guru.com.server1INMX0server1.guru.com.server2INMX0server1.guru.com. win2kINMX0server1.guru.com.#END### Dig[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#dig server1.guru.com; DiG 9.2.4 server1.guru.com;; global options: printcmd;; Got answer:;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 12985;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION:;server1.guru.com.INA ;; ANSWER SECTION:server1.guru.com.86400INA192.168.0.2 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:server1.guru.com.86400INNSserver1.guru.com. ;; Query time: 1 msec;; SERVER: 192.168.0.2#53(192.168.0.2);; WHEN: Fri Mar 17 21:16:03 2006;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 64### Thanks,Hiren
Re: [gentoo-user] Is my postfix being used as a relay?
On 3/16/06, Gerhard Hoogterp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 16 March 2006 20:12, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I get a lot of bounce messages from Postfix relating to emails that are not actually from me, and the mail q shows lots of stuff I don't recognize. I'd like to know how to interpret this, and if it is called-for, to secure this daemon a bit more. Can somebody point me in the right direction?I'll RTFM if it's not *too* big, if I know the appropriate FM to R. You can check if your machine is an open relay by using telnet torelay-test.mail-abuse.org from the machine which runs the mail.An other alternative is to use their webinterface (http://www.abuse.net/relay.html) but I have no experience with that one. Thanks for the links. To my relief, they both reported all relay attempts were blocked. So the bounces were spammers spoofing my address as a return, I suppose. And there's nothing I can do to stop that. Sigh. ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] dd if=/dev/dvd of=backup.iso
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 21:52 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Thursday 16 March 2006 12:11, Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] dd if=/dev/dvd of=backup.iso': The strange part is that when I mount the same DVD in amd64-machine all directory and files are listed in small letters (and I know they should be all CAPS). Though, I don't see what difference it could make, but why one machine list the files and directories in small letter and the other one in caps. One machine is mounting as iso9660; the other is mounting as UDF. The one mounting as UDF is more correct. This won't make a difference to dd (since it operates below the file system) but would affect cp, ll, or any other program that required the drive to be mounted. That would explain but according to my fstab file both should be mount as iso9660 type; my x-86 system had entry (showing file in CAP LETTERS): /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 my amd64 fstab entry (showing all small letters): /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 /dev/pktcdvd/0 /mnt/cdrw udf /dev/hdc/mnt/dvdr iso9660 on amd64 is used: mount /dev/hdc /mnt/dvdr so it should be mounted as iso9660 the same line x86-system. I used to rip DVDs and CDs using dd w/ conv=noerror. I find I actually get better results with a tool designed to read CDs specifically. I don't know if it is because they better moderate the speed of the drive, or if they are simply cognizant of the error correction bits on the disk, but I'll never go back to reading CDs or DVDs with dd again. What program are you using to make iso backup k9copy? -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bind Problem
Hello, Hiren Dave wrote: Hi, I have one problem with bind. I am getting answer from dns server for dig command but there is no MX entry. Any idea whats wrong? Below is the configuration file for master zone and dig command ouput is also given. That is not the issue with bind. Dig is also working fine, he returned everything required. For MX to pop up you have to use -t mx, like: # dig -t mx guru.com Cheers, Martin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is my postfix being used as a relay?
On 3/17/06, John Jolet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I expose this machine's port 25 on purpose.So I would like to make it a good netizen. I had done this with sendmail in previous distros, but am a neophyte with Postfix.Right now I want to verify if I have (or am) a problem.with postfix, it will, by default ONLY accept mail for which itconsiders itself the final destination for, or destinations that arein relay_domains.typically, out of the box, it will not relay mail for anyone, though it will accept mail for it, as resolved from thebox's fqdn, or mydestination.I have mine set up to also allow you to relay if you authenticate(using sasl, via pam...or pam via sasl, if you want to look at it that way).basically that means I can send mail using this serverfrom any network, as long as I set my client up to authenticate onsend.but you can't randomly use it as a relay.-- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing listAlthough it seems this host is not a relay, that does not explain the score or so of things languishing in my mail queue attempting to contact sites I have no knowledge of, and which do not accept the connection. Any hints how to explore this? ++ kevin-- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] Is my postfix being used as a relay?
Kevin O'Gorman wrote: Although it seems this host is not a relay, that does not explain the score or so of things languishing in my mail queue attempting to contact sites I have no knowledge of, and which do not accept the connection. Any hints how to explore this? Look through your maillogs to determine where these messages originated. If they originated on your network, then it is probably a virus or a worm. Tom Veldhouse
[gentoo-user] cdb with portage 2.1 (was: CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync)
Hi! Hemmann, Volker Armin volker.armin.hemmann at tu-clausthal.de writes: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-261580.html is the thread. But beware, in /usr/portage/modules you need this: portdbapi.auxdbmodule = cache.cdb.database eclass_cache.dbmodule = cache.cdb.database not that: portdbapi.auxdbmodule = portage_db_cdb.database eclass_cache.dbmodule = portage_db_cdb.database that is the only change I remember at the moment (and which did not went into the wiki). I now finally got around to actually TRY what I put in the wiki at http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb :) And I discovered, that this doesn't work for me :( When I write your lines in /etc/portage/modules and run emerge --metadata, I get the following error: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ time sudo emerge --verbose --metadata Error: Failed to import module 'cache.cdb.database' File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 1290, in load_best_module mod = load_mod(best_mod) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 149, in load_mod mod = __import__(modname) No module named cdb But when I put the old lines (those with portage_db_cdb.database) in the modules file, I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ time sudo emerge --verbose --metadata Error: Failed to import module 'portage_db_cdb.database' File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 1290, in load_best_module mod = load_mod(best_mod) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 149, in load_mod mod = __import__(modname) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage_db_cdb.py, line 17, in ? import portage_db_template No module named portage_db_template Well, for me, it seems that the 2nd version (with portage_db_cdb.database) seems to be a little bit more successful, as it actually LOADS the portage_db_cdb.py file. That's not done with the version using 'cache.cdb.database' - here it fails to load a module named cdb. Is anyone using CDB with Portage 2.1? Regards, Alexander Skwar -- Never give in. Never give in. Never. Never. Never. -- Winston Churchill -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] 2006.0 minimal install howto
Hello everybody, Can someone give me a tip(s) on how to proceed with this minimal install? I note on the CD big files such as image.squasfs and gentoo.igz but the little on-line about them is not very helpful. I think I can start ppp and prepare the harddrive but beyond that darkness looms :^( -Maxim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Re: splash theme livecd-2006.0 and verbose mode
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:10:33 -0500, Peter wrote: all snip. Well, I had to run # rc-update add splash default again. Somehow updating splashutils removed it from the boot sequence. Without splash loaded, the graphical image on the console would not stay past the init sequence. Loading splash resolved the issue. Now to see why it got removed... -- Peter -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2006.0 minimal install howto
maxim wexler wrote: Hello everybody, Can someone give me a tip(s) on how to proceed with this minimal install? I note on the CD big files such as image.squasfs and gentoo.igz but the little on-line about them is not very helpful. I think I can start ppp and prepare the harddrive but beyond that darkness looms :^( Have you read the install handbooks yet? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml?catid=install#doc_chap2 -Jeremy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: livecd 586 boxen
maxim wexler blissfix at yahoo.com writes: Hi everybody, For those who haven't noticed yet the 2006.0 LiveCD doesn't seem to work on K6's etc. A look at the docs confirms this: not all architectures supported. Guess that 686 in the filename should have warned me away. Sheesh! 75 hrs downloading for nothing! Last fall I installed a K6 200MHz amd system with 256 M of ram from a 2005 cd. It took a couple of days to compile everything, but the stage one install was successful and it's a firewall today. My suggestions would be to stip the USE flags down to the minimum you need. Another avenue is to install gentoo-embedded for x86: http://www.bulah.com/embeddedgentoo.html http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/index.xml http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/gnap.xml hth, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What on Earth is Portage doing for so long?
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:15:56 +0100 Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Well, you know, in worst case, portage doesn't work anymore. | In this case, you'd just have to revert your changes, and | everything's fine again. No, in the worst case Portage ends up with duff cache data, leading to utterly inappropriate packages being installed. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Wearer of the shiny hat) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Multi-DVD backup
Does anyone know of an app/script for doing a multi-DVD backup of my ~/? My ~/ is 10GB so I will need something that could do a little compression and create as many DVD iso images as needed. I was thinking of just tar.gzing my ~/ and then splitting that file to sizes to fit on a DVD and then make the ISO. I was hoping for a script/app that is tested since I don't want to lose my data and I have to format my computer soon. Thanks, Jim -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2006.0 minimal install howto
--- Jeremy Olexa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maxim wexler wrote: Hello everybody, Can someone give me a tip(s) on how to proceed with this minimal install? I note on the CD big files such as image.squasfs and gentoo.igz but the little on-line about them is not very helpful. I think I can start ppp and prepare the harddrive but beyond that darkness looms :^( Have you read the install handbooks yet? Yes. To paraphrase what I found: if you want you can use the minimal install CD. If you got a link to something a trifle more verbose I'd sure like to follow it. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml?catid=install#doc_chap2 -Jeremy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Multi-DVD backup
On Mar 17, 2006, at 3:23 PM, JimD wrote: Does anyone know of an app/script for doing a multi-DVD backup of my ~/? My ~/ is 10GB so I will need something that could do a little compression and create as many DVD iso images as needed. I was thinking of just tar.gzing my ~/ and then splitting that file to sizes to fit on a DVD and then make the ISO. I was hoping for a script/app that is tested since I don't want to lose my data and I have to format my computer soon. look at freshmeat.net for scdbackup. it can be called with sdvdbackup and will span dvds. I back up my mail server totally to 4 dvds. you can tell it what filesystems to backup, or directories. it figures it all out for you. be warned that growisofs is a prereq for it. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2006.0 minimal install howto
On Mar 17, 2006, at 3:23 PM, maxim wexler wrote: --- Jeremy Olexa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maxim wexler wrote: Hello everybody, Can someone give me a tip(s) on how to proceed with this minimal install? I note on the CD big files such as image.squasfs and gentoo.igz but the little on-line about them is not very helpful. I think I can start ppp and prepare the harddrive but beyond that darkness looms :^( Have you read the install handbooks yet? Yes. To paraphrase what I found: if you want you can use the minimal install CD. If you got a link to something a trifle more verbose I'd sure like to follow it. the only difference (and this is spelled out in the install docs) is that instead of using the snapshot and stage file from the cd, you download it (and THAT is mentioned in the docs, or was last time I did a gentoo install). It says we'll show you how to use the cd first, as that's the usual route, but the section after that shows you how to download the stage file and snapshot. (i'm paraphrasing here, before anyone goes nuts on me for misquoting). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2006.0 minimal install howto
On Friday 17 March 2006 22:23, maxim wexler wrote: Have you read the install handbooks yet? Yes. To paraphrase what I found: if you want you can use the minimal install CD. If you got a link to something a trifle more verbose I'd sure like to follow it. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml?catid=install#doc_chap2 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml Pick your architecture and start reading. It's all covered quite throughly. If you have a specific problem with it then tell us exactly how far you have gotten and what the problem is. -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] can anyone please help me with gnome?
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:36:12 + Unknown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /etc/init.d/net.lo start ip link, shows that lo interface is there Nick (running out of ideas) OK. does this happen for all users? or just you? (don't come back and say you only have one user. if that is so make another one and see what happens. adduser makes a new user at the command line, but I find superadduser so much better, and it is only a short emerge away.) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Multi-DVD backup
John Jolet wrote: look at freshmeat.net for scdbackup. it can be called with sdvdbackup and will span dvds. I back up my mail server totally to 4 dvds. you can tell it what filesystems to backup, or directories. it figures it all out for you. be warned that growisofs is a prereq for it. Thanks for the tip! Jim -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cdb with portage 2.1 (was: CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync)
On Friday 17 March 2006 19:24, Alexander Skwar wrote: Is anyone using CDB with Portage 2.1? with the latest portage incarnations it does not work anymore at all. But portage got a lot speedier too, so the problem is not soo big. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Multi-DVD backup
John Jolet wrote: look at freshmeat.net for scdbackup. it can be called with sdvdbackup and will span dvds. I back up my mail server totally to 4 dvds. you can tell it what filesystems to backup, or directories. it figures it all out for you. be warned that growisofs is a prereq for it. Do you do the ISO or afio backup? If you do the ISO backup, do your file permissions get hosed? I see that the utility puts a script to restore directory permissions on the last CD/DVD in the set, however it didn't mention anything about file permissions. Jim -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cdb with portage 2.1 (was: CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync)
On Friday 17 March 2006 19:24, Alexander Skwar wrote: Is anyone using CDB with Portage 2.1? # grep ewarn /usr/portage/sys-apps/portage/portage-2.1_pre6-r3.ebuild ewarn This series contains a completely rewritten caching framework. ewarn If you are using any cache modules (such as the CDB cache ewarn module) portage will not work until they have been disabled. -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Multi-DVD backup
On Mar 17, 2006, at 4:29 PM, JimD wrote: John Jolet wrote: look at freshmeat.net for scdbackup. it can be called with sdvdbackup and will span dvds. I back up my mail server totally to 4 dvds. you can tell it what filesystems to backup, or directories. it figures it all out for you. be warned that growisofs is a prereq for it. Do you do the ISO or afio backup? If you do the ISO backup, do your file permissions get hosed? I see that the utility puts a script to restore directory permissions on the last CD/DVD in the set, however it didn't mention anything about file permissions. I can't remember which I do. I'm not terribly concerned about permissions, as for the most part, i'm concerned with being able to restore mostly /home and /var/spool/mail. the rest is just in case, as it were. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What on Earth is Portage doing for so long?
On 3/17/06, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:15:56 +0100 Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Well, you know, in worst case, portage doesn't work anymore. | In this case, you'd just have to revert your changes, and | everything's fine again. No, in the worst case Portage ends up with duff cache data, leading to utterly inappropriate packages being installed. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Wearer of the shiny hat) Hi, I've been using this cdb hack for so long I'd forgotten that it was there. If it is backed out is there a standard way to use portage these days that goes reasonably fast and doesn't have these risks. Granted, the risks are quite low, I think, but better not to take risks if not required to. Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dd if=/dev/dvd of=backup.iso
On Friday 17 March 2006 11:39, Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] dd if=/dev/dvd of=backup.iso': On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 21:52 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Thursday 16 March 2006 12:11, Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] dd if=/dev/dvd of=backup.iso': Though, I don't see what difference it could make, but why one machine list the files and directories in small letter and the other one in caps. One machine is mounting as iso9660; the other is mounting as UDF. The one mounting as UDF is more correct. That would explain but according to my fstab file both should be mount as iso9660 type; It does explain it. I've done it many a time. my amd64 fstab entry (showing all small letters): /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 /dev/pktcdvd/0 /mnt/cdrw udf /dev/hdc /mnt/dvdr iso9660 on amd64 is used: mount /dev/hdc /mnt/dvdr so it should be mounted as iso9660 the same line x86-system. If you specify both the device and mount point your /etc/fstab is ignored. Instead it will use /etc/filesystems or /proc/filesystems and try each one in order. If you want to use /etc/fstab your can use either the device node or the mount point but not both. I used to rip DVDs and CDs using dd w/ conv=noerror. I find I actually get better results with a tool designed to read CDs specifically. I don't know if it is because they better moderate the speed of the drive, or if they are simply cognizant of the error correction bits on the disk, but I'll never go back to reading CDs or DVDs with dd again. What program are you using to make iso backup k9copy? I use k3b actually. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Recommended amd64 box for Gentoo
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:07:46 -0800 Bob Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:04:58 -0600 Michael Madden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone recommend an amd64 box to use with Gentoo 2006.0? I had considered one of the following workstations; has anyone had good or bad experience with these workstations and Gentoo for amd64? HP xw9300 Sun Ultra 40 IBM IntelliStation A Pro Alienware MJ-12 7550a Thinking about it my reply should have been - Gentoo will run fine on any box the vendor sells with a Linux as an option to on it. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dd if=/dev/dvd of=backup.iso
That would explain but according to my fstab file both should be mount as iso9660 type; It does explain it. I've done it many a time. my amd64 fstab entry (showing all small letters): /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 /dev/pktcdvd/0 /mnt/cdrw udf /dev/hdc/mnt/dvdr iso9660 on amd64 is used: mount /dev/hdc /mnt/dvdr so it should be mounted as iso9660 the same line x86-system. If you specify both the device and mount point your /etc/fstab is ignored. Instead it will use /etc/filesystems or /proc/filesystems and try each one in order. That would explain it, thanks for explanation; always learn something new. If you want to use /etc/fstab your can use either the device node or the mount point but not both. I used to rip DVDs and CDs using dd w/ conv=noerror. I find I actually get better results with a tool designed to read CDs specifically. I don't know if it is because they better moderate the speed of the drive, or if they are simply cognizant of the error correction bits on the disk, but I'll never go back to reading CDs or DVDs with dd again. What program are you using to make iso backup k9copy? I use k3b actually. program k9copy didn't work for me and k3b stopped after copying 850Mb dmesg showing a lot of errors: hdc: media error (bad sector) status=0x51 SeekComplete Error hdc: media error (bad sector) status=0x34 It could be that few disks had an error but I get similar error reading commercial disk as well. So much for DVD enjoyment (very unreliable). -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Wireless Channel
Does anyone know of a tool for Linux or Windows that will see what is the best channel to use? I have a desktop (gentoo) and a laptop (XP) on my home network. My wireless router is a D-Link DI-524. The desktop is wired to a port and the laptop is wireless with an Intell Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG. I have noticed connection issues when I SSH into my desktop from the laptop. I can connect and after anywhere from 30 seconds to about 3 minutes, the conneciton locks up and then is lost. I thought it was an issue with ssh so I opened up telnet, however I get the same issue. I use the desktop all the time and never notice any issues when I download from the net. I am wondering if it is a wireless issue? The strange thing is that I am using the laptop now and I cam getting about 4Mbs download fromthe net. However, as soon as I use cygwin or putty to ssh/telnet in to the desktop, the connection gets crappy. I also noticed the connection issues if I try to use sambe from gentoo to XP. Thanks, Jim -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cdb with portage 2.1
Bo Andresen wrote: On Friday 17 March 2006 19:24, Alexander Skwar wrote: Is anyone using CDB with Portage 2.1? # grep ewarn /usr/portage/sys-apps/portage/portage-2.1_pre6-r3.ebuild ewarn This series contains a completely rewritten caching framework. ewarn If you are using any cache modules (such as the CDB cache ewarn module) portage will not work until they have been disabled. Yes, I know, but please read the thread. Thanks, Alexander Skwar -- Luke Skywalker: I'm Luke Skywalker, I'm here to rescue you. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cdb with portage 2.1
On Saturday 18 March 2006 07:16, Alexander Skwar wrote: Yes, I know, but please read the thread. Oh sorry. I probably shouldn't write to a mailing list when that tired... ;) -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
