Re: [gentoo-user] ATI Radeon 9550

2007-01-11 Thread Mark Kirkwood

Mark Kirkwood wrote:



I'm very interested as I've been using a 9550 with HW accel enabled + 
Xorg (6.9) with the radeon driver in FreeBSD 6 without any problems at 
all. This encourages me to think they should work in Gentoo as 
well...(crosses fingers) as I'm in the process of building my mother a 
machine running Gentoo and have one of these (a 9200) lying around and 
am intending to use it




I temporarily made my box with the Radeon 9550 run Gentoo (installed on 
a space disk) to try this out. It seems hardware acceleration works and 
is stable, 'tho not terribly fast for 3D (2200 FPS with glxgears), but 
very snappy for 2D (which is all I really use...).


Cheers

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mathematical Formulas

2007-01-11 Thread Ralf Stephan
 Gentoo fits like a glove,even to a newbie such as myself,  but I can't get
 AbiWord to display mathematical formulas in my documents. Is there a 
 package

Depends on which documents but you don't want any other output
than that from LaTeX. This is the true math standard. You can
convert to Postscript, PDF, bitmap from there and thus include
it in any other doc format.


Regards,
ralf

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Re: [gentoo-user] new runlevel

2007-01-11 Thread Arnau Bria
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:08:39 +
Neil Bothwick wrote:

 On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:49:24 +0100, Arnau Bria wrote:

[...]
 Watch your boot messages to see when they come up. It is likely that
 udev is coldplugging them, which you can fix by setting RC_COLDPLUG
 in /etc/conf.d/rc. 
That was...

 See the comments in the file or the discussions on
 this list earlier this week.

Uops! same problem, same week...
Sorry, I usually read topics... but I did not consider this
interesting, maybe because of the long of its name :-)

thanks for your reply.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mathematical Formulas

2007-01-11 Thread Vlad Dogaru

On 1/11/07, Ralf Stephan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Gentoo fits like a glove,even to a newbie such as myself,  but I can't
get
 AbiWord to display mathematical formulas in my documents. Is there a
 package

Depends on which documents but you don't want any other output
than that from LaTeX. This is the true math standard. You can
convert to Postscript, PDF, bitmap from there and thus include
it in any other doc format.


Regards,
ralf



I was being very ambiguous the first time and I apologise. The problem is
that I have some readily written texts in Windows doc format which contain
mathematical formulas and I need to be able to read them.


Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-11 Thread Jorge Almeida

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Kent Fredric wrote:



Generally, these devices provide full DHCP, DNS,NTP, Port/Host based
routing/firewalling etc, and all users are NAT'ed behind it.

Generally, the modem handles all the potentially difficult nasties of
gettting the PPP stuff underway, and you cant even tell what your
external IP is unless you query the modems web interface. To the user,
you can just be 192.168.1.50, and the modem can be 192.168.1.1, and
the modem being the default gateway, and all the rest is handled by
NAT magic.


So this means that all firewalling is made by the router, who knows with
what software...

That said, i have one reason why I myself would like a box i crafted
myself with a PCI modem in it,  and thats primarily so i can implement
routing, traffic monitoring and the like more configurably, and in my
experience, some modems are often 'poxy' and can crash occasionally as
a result of using bittorrent. ( I have the modem set to send its
syslog errors to my linux boxes syslog and its full of MASQUERADE: No
route: Rusty's brain broke! )


Yes... I doubt a router-embedded firewall will allow me to configure it
as I want.



Thank you for your input.

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Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-11 Thread Jorge Almeida

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Andrey Gerasimenko wrote:



The firewall and router you get with an ADSL modem are essentially free these 
days. If you need more then what is in the router, nothing prevents you from 
building a box for traffic monitoring and advanced routing later.



Good point.


You must check if your ADSL modem has a splitter. It may be built-in, coming 
with the modem, or you may have to buy one (dirt cheap) separately.

They provide both a splitter and a microfilter.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Mathematical Formulas

2007-01-11 Thread Dale
Vlad Dogaru wrote:
 On 1/11/07, *Ralf Stephan* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Gentoo fits like a glove,even to a newbie such as myself,  but I
 can't get
  AbiWord to display mathematical formulas in my documents. Is there a
  package

 Depends on which documents but you don't want any other output
 than that from LaTeX. This is the true math standard. You can
 convert to Postscript, PDF, bitmap from there and thus include
 it in any other doc format.


 Regards,
 ralf


 I was being very ambiguous the first time and I apologise. The problem
 is that I have some readily written texts in Windows doc format which
 contain mathematical formulas and I need to be able to read them.


I think you need Open Office.  emerge openoffice or emerge
openoffice-bin.  The last one is a binary version, no long compile
times.  I don't know your machine but I have a AMD 2500+ with 1GB of
ram.  It takes about 7 1/2 hours for me.  Your mileage may vary.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Top/Bottom Posting

2007-01-11 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 10:40 -0300, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:
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 Kent Fredric wrote:
  I'll put it here to keep you happy, but IMO, if the body of the
  message discusses a singular idea, then replying after the signature
  should be somewhat imo acceptable.
 
 Many mail readers (e.g Thunderbird) put the signature (that means, the
 text after a \r\n--\r\n
 token) in a different, lighter color.

actually, I think that's supposed to be dash-dash-space-newline.

  Thus, replying below the signature may put your reply in the
 same color, potentially rendering it invisible to some eyes.

evolution automatically deletes everything including and below the
dash-dash-space-newline when you reply.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mathematical Formulas

2007-01-11 Thread Ralf Stephan
 I was being very ambiguous the first time and I apologise. The problem is
 that I have some readily written texts in Windows doc format which contain
 mathematical formulas and I need to be able to read them.

Not knowing if it's possible to read that with OpenOffice,
I would advise you to rewrite in LaTeX. It's a good way to
learn the typesetting and you'll love how it looks. If you
care for your text use LaTeX. Do you think all the scientists
who put their preprints on arXiv.org can be wrong?


Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mathematical Formulas

2007-01-11 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 11 January 2007 14:05, Ralf Stephan wrote:
  I was being very ambiguous the first time and I apologise. The problem is
  that I have some readily written texts in Windows doc format which
  contain mathematical formulas and I need to be able to read them.

 Not knowing if it's possible to read that with OpenOffice,
 I would advise you to rewrite in LaTeX. It's a good way to
 learn the typesetting and you'll love how it looks. If you
 care for your text use LaTeX. Do you think all the scientists
 who put their preprints on arXiv.org can be wrong?

People, this poor guy has some documents, most probably *not* written by 
himself, he needs to read. Advice to re-write his documents is completely 
besides the point!

Vlad, if you don't mind, please send one of your docs (a small one, not more 
than 100KB, I am with a modem) and I'll tell you whether they can be rendered 
properly in kword or OpenOffice. I'll let you know about the outcome. If you 
send it, please do so off-list.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Top/Bottom Posting

2007-01-11 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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contains --  would
be a signature from there on. - I'll see what happens after I press send and 
re-read it.

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[gentoo-user] Re: struggles with SATA

2007-01-11 Thread James
Alan E. Davis lngndvs at gmail.com writes:


 Using an AsRock 939SLI32-eSATA2 motherboard and a Western Digital 
sata drive, I have been having alot of trouble.  I found AHCI driver 
to work, at least detect the drive/partitions.  I have had no end of
problems.I had moved this drive from another machine w/ a Tyan motherboard,
 where it worked flawlessly.  


Hello Alan,

You might want to contact the motherboard manufacture (or poke around 
the web) to see if that mobo has a newer release of firmware (bios).

I recently has sata drive problems that on a firmware update to a 
MPI motherboard could fix..

hth,

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Re: [gentoo-user] ATI Radeon 9550

2007-01-11 Thread sean

Mark Kirkwood wrote:

Sean wrote:
I picked up one of these cards today. Normally I prefer nvidia based 
but I let price make my choice right now.


Anyway, have had nothing but problems trying to get this thing working.
Found many bugs listed against the ati-drivers, and not having much 
more success using the open source drivers also listed in the Gentoo 
ATI faq.




Did you try the Xorg radeon driver? (think its part of 
xf86-video-ati). You want to unmerge ati-drivers if they have proved 
unstable (no surprise there...)


I'm very interested as I've been using a 9550 with HW accel enabled + 
Xorg (6.9) with the radeon driver in FreeBSD 6 without any problems at 
all. This encourages me to think they should work in Gentoo as 
well...(crosses fingers) as I'm in the process of building my mother a 
machine running Gentoo and have one of these (a 9200) lying around and 
am intending to use it



Cheers

Mark





I tried the xf86-video-ati driver as you suggested. Xorg just starts up, 
is blank or black for a few moments then just ends. Cannot find out a 
reason why at this point.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ATI Radeon 9550

2007-01-11 Thread sean

James wrote:


Hello Sean,

I did get my ATI 1900 to work, but, only after quit a lot of pain

Still in pain here. Never had so many problems with a card before.


1. unmask the lastest ATI drivers ( as the ATI web 
sites says there
are lots of bug fixes in 8.32.5) and install it. It 
was the only version

that worked on my ati 1900 card.



I emerged the latest drivers you specified above and unlike the stable 
drivers, these actually compiled.


The xorg configure keeps crashing, but I played around with my earlier 
xorg config.


Here is a real odd one. Having specified the radeon driver, started 
xorg, and it fails stating cannot find the radeon driver.


Did a slocate for radeon_drv and it located it in the proper xorg 
location for the drivers. Tried xorg again, it failed the same way.
Went to the driver location, and the radeon driver is not present. Tried 
an slocate again, it states that the radeon driver is where it should be.

At a loss for this one.

Right now to simplify things removing SMP from the kernel, saw a lot of 
remarks stating SMP often on early versions of the driver caused problems.


Has anyone tried the driver install script right from ati instead of 
portage?


I am just about ready to go get an nvidia card.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Question about kernels and kernel patches

2007-01-11 Thread Steve Dibb

Michael Sullivan wrote:

I like the newer kernels
because ivtv drivers that work with them are in portage, and I'm not
sure drivers that work with 2.6.11 are still in portage.


They are still in there, and I doubt we'll be removing them anytime soon.

ivtv v0.4.5 through 0.4.9 will work with kernels =2.6.15.

http://www.ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Download

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[gentoo-user] OT - Is this normal?

2007-01-11 Thread Michael Sullivan
Is this normal?:

2899 root  17   0  131m  35m  224 R  0.3 59.2  11:03.55 cc1

I took this from a `top` listing.  I'm trying to emerge
sys-devel/gcc-4.1.1-r3 on my server box.  The merge hasn't moved much in
the last twenty hours, and, if I'm reading this right, this single
compile has been running for eleven hours???  Is this a problem?  Should
I stop it?

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[gentoo-user] how do I keep package from being updated?

2007-01-11 Thread John Covici
Hi.  I just did emerge --pretend --update --deep world, but there is a
package which I don't want to have emerge update automatically -- how
do I accomplish this?

Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Is this normal?

2007-01-11 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:42:01 -0600 Michael Sullivan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is this normal?:
 
 2899 root  17   0  131m  35m  224 R  0.3 59.2  11:03.55 cc1
 
 I took this from a `top` listing.  I'm trying to emerge
 sys-devel/gcc-4.1.1-r3 on my server box.  The merge hasn't moved much
 in the last twenty hours, and, if I'm reading this right, this single
 compile has been running for eleven hours???

Should rather be 11 minutes. But that's probably (can't the the top
headers, but assuming default config) CPU time, so it might be running
for longer.

 Is this a problem?

You'll never know... But the process is running. You can use strace
-p PID to get a first impression what the process is doing/waiting
for. If you don't care, just kill it, abort the emerge, check system
and start over.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how do I keep package from being updated?

2007-01-11 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 09:50:31 -0500 John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi.  I just did emerge --pretend --update --deep world, but there is a
 package which I don't want to have emerge update automatically -- how
 do I accomplish this?

You can mask it in /etc/portage/package.mask, for the syntax have a
look at man 5 portage. For your case, it's basically a line like

pkg-category/package-0.0.1

assuming you want to keep 0.0.1.


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Re: [gentoo-user] how do I keep package from being updated?

2007-01-11 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 11 January 2007 08:50, John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote about '[gentoo-user] how do I keep package from being updated?':
 Hi.  I just did emerge --pretend --update --deep world, but there is a
 package which I don't want to have emerge update automatically -- how
 do I accomplish this?

Add an appropriate atom to your /etc/portage/package.mask file.  There's a 
good section in the handbook about this, as well as it being documented in 
the various man pages installed with portage, such as man portage, man 
ebuild, and man 5 ebuild.

Very quickly:
If you have cate-gory/package-1.5.3 installed, and 
cate-gory/package-1.6.0_rc2 is available but you don't want to upgrade, 
add =cate-gory/package-1.6* to your package.mask

(If it's a -rX upgrade, or and increase in the 3rd (or later) number in the 
version, you probably want the upgrade.  Really.  The former is an ebuild 
fix that won't change the upstream version you get (so, you will almost 
never encounter upgrade issues); the later is (for most packages) a 
security or bugfix release that should maintain compatibility with 
previous versions (so, you will rarely encounter upgrade issues).)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mathematical Formulas

2007-01-11 Thread Vlad Dogaru

On 1/11/07, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 11 January 2007 14:05, Ralf Stephan wrote:
  I was being very ambiguous the first time and I apologise. The problem
is
  that I have some readily written texts in Windows doc format which
  contain mathematical formulas and I need to be able to read them.

 Not knowing if it's possible to read that with OpenOffice,
 I would advise you to rewrite in LaTeX. It's a good way to
 learn the typesetting and you'll love how it looks. If you
 care for your text use LaTeX. Do you think all the scientists
 who put their preprints on arXiv.org can be wrong?

People, this poor guy has some documents, most probably *not* written by
himself, he needs to read. Advice to re-write his documents is completely
besides the point!



That is correct, I am not in the position to rewrite the whole work. I
already know some LaTeX and I love it, but I haven't the time or the
credibility to do a rewrite (I am a student and the system is sub-par here
in Romania).

Vlad, if you don't mind, please send one of your docs (a small one, not more

than 100KB, I am with a modem) and I'll tell you whether they can be
rendered
properly in kword or OpenOffice. I'll let you know about the outcome. If
you
send it, please do so off-list.

Uwe



Uwe, thanks for the offer, I sent you the file.


Re: [gentoo-user] how do I keep package from being updated?

2007-01-11 Thread John covici
OK, thanks I will try that and see what it does.

on Thursday 01/11/2007 Hans-Werner Hilse([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
  Hi,
  
  On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 09:50:31 -0500 John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  
   Hi.  I just did emerge --pretend --update --deep world, but there is a
   package which I don't want to have emerge update automatically -- how
   do I accomplish this?
  
  You can mask it in /etc/portage/package.mask, for the syntax have a
  look at man 5 portage. For your case, it's basically a line like
  
  pkg-category/package-0.0.1
  
  assuming you want to keep 0.0.1.
  
  
  -hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ATI Radeon 9550

2007-01-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 09:19:47 -0500, sean wrote:

 Did a slocate for radeon_drv and it located it in the proper xorg 
 location for the drivers. Tried xorg again, it failed the same way.
 Went to the driver location, and the radeon driver is not present.
 Tried an slocate again, it states that the radeon driver is where it
 should be. At a loss for this one.

slocate only tells you the file was there the last time updatedb was run.


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Re: [gentoo-user] how do I keep package from being updated?

2007-01-11 Thread John covici
OK, I did put my php version in the /etc/portage/package.mask, but it
still wants to install a new major version -- curiously it says ebuild
-ns rather than just -n or -u.  I put the following line in there
=dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8

which is my current version of php and emerge said
[ebuild  NS   ] dev-lang/php-5.1.6-r6  USE=berkdb cli crypt gdbm
iconv ipv6 ldap ncurses nls pcre readline reflection session spell spl
ssl truetype unicode xml zlib -adabas -apache -apache2 -bcmath
-birdstep -bzip2 -calendar -cdb -cgi -cjk -concurrentmodphp -ctype
-curl -curlwrappers -db2 -dbase -dbmaker -debug -discard-path -doc
-empress -empress-bcs -esoob -exif -fastbuild -fdftk -filepro
-firebird -flatfile -force-cgi-redirect -frontbase -ftp -gd
-gd-external -gmp -hardenedphp -hash -hyperwave-api -imap -informix
-inifile -interbase -iodbc -java-external -kerberos -libedit -mcve
-memlimit -mhash -ming -msql -mssql -mysql -mysqli -oci8
-oci8-instant-client -odbc -pcntl -pdo -pdo-external -pic -posix
-postgres -qdbm -recode -sapdb -sasl -sharedext -sharedmem -simplexml
-snmp -soap -sockets -solid -sqlite -sybase -sybase-ct -sysvipc
-threads -tidy -tokenizer -vm-goto -vm-switch -wddx -xmlreader -xmlrpc
-xmlwriter -xpm -xsl -yaz -zip

on Thursday 01/11/2007 Hans-Werner Hilse([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
  Hi,
  
  On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 09:50:31 -0500 John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  
   Hi.  I just did emerge --pretend --update --deep world, but there is a
   package which I don't want to have emerge update automatically -- how
   do I accomplish this?
  
  You can mask it in /etc/portage/package.mask, for the syntax have a
  look at man 5 portage. For your case, it's basically a line like
  
  pkg-category/package-0.0.1
  
  assuming you want to keep 0.0.1.
  
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] how do I keep package from being updated?

2007-01-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:10:29 +0100, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:

 You can mask it in /etc/portage/package.mask, for the syntax have a
 look at man 5 portage. For your case, it's basically a line like
 
 pkg-category/package-0.0.1  
 
 assuming you want to keep 0.0.1.

It would be better to use ~pkg-category/package-0.0.1. this allows
patch level updates, such as 0.0.1-r1 while not permitting an update to a
higher upstream version.

Patch level updates, -r1, -r2 etc, install the same version but with some
changes, such as security fixes.


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Re: [gentoo-user] how do I keep package from being updated?

2007-01-11 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:38:38 -0500
John covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK, I did put my php version in the /etc/portage/package.mask, but it
 still wants to install a new major version -- curiously it says ebuild
 -ns rather than just -n or -u.  I put the following line in there
 =dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8

you don't want to mask the currently installed version (=), but rather the
versions greater () than it.

 which is my current version of php and emerge said
 [ebuild  NS   ] dev-lang/php-5.1.6-r6  USE=berkdb cli crypt gdbm
 [...]

interesting. Yes, that NS is for a New, Slotted version. I.e., PHP4
will still be on your system, so you might already stop worrying at
this point. In fact, I don't really know how to mask a version in a
different slot. I would have even expected my suggestion to do that
anyway. But this makes much more sense, because there should be a
seperate masking for each of the slots -- and it resembles the
behaviour from the profile's masks. So you might add another line to
your package.mask, following Boyd Stephen's suggestion to mask with
=:

=dev-lang/php-5.0.0



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Re: [gentoo-user] Several Gentoo-Problems

2007-01-11 Thread chrissie
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 08:13:21PM -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
 
 Both (er, all if you happen to have more than 2) interfaces will need
 to be listed there for it to be effective.  The problem is that if
 some device comes up without a rule and grabs eth0, then udev won't
 take eth0 away from it when a device with a matching rule comes up.

This seems to have worked! Thanks!

 Any hints, also about the gnome-settings-daemon problem?
 
 Well the other old standby advice is to remove/rename ~/.gnome, so you
 end up with the default gnome settings again, and see if that helps.

This did not help. But a Friend told me to do a

# emerge --emptytree world

This ended up with:

 Emerging (229 of 418) net-libs/gnutls-1.4.4-r1 to /

 [...]

 * Failed Running autoconf !
 *
 * Include in your bugreport the contents of:
 *
 *   /var/tmp/portage/gnutls-1.4.4-r1/temp/autoconf-31509.out

balearen chrissie # cat /var/tmp/portage/gnutls-1.4.4-r1/temp/autoconf-31509.out
* autoconf *
configure.in:326: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PATH_LIBOPENCDK
  If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.
  See the Autoconf documentation.
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Re: [gentoo-user] how do I keep package from being updated?

2007-01-11 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Thursday 11 January 2007 17:47, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 It would be better to use ~pkg-category/package-0.0.1. this allows
 patch level updates, such as 0.0.1-r1 while not permitting an update to a
 higher upstream version.

That isn't a valid atom and it plain doesn't work. Even if it did it wouldn't 
have the intended effect since it would mask -r*...

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Re: [gentoo-user] how do I keep package from being updated?

2007-01-11 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Thursday 11 January 2007 16:21, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 add =cate-gory/package-1.6* to your package.mask

That too isn't a valid atom. Lose the '*'. It's only valid with '=' not '=' 
or '~'... Valid atoms are described in `man 5 ebuild`.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how do I keep package from being updated?

2007-01-11 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Thursday 11 January 2007 17:56, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
 I don't really know how to mask a version in a different slot. I would have
 even expected my suggestion to do that anyway. But this makes much more
 sense, because there should be a seperate masking for each of the slots --
 and it resembles the behaviour from the profile's masks.

A '' masking will indeed mask later slots. It doesn't require a mask pr. 
slot.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how do I keep package from being updated?

2007-01-11 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 11 January 2007 11:30, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] how do I keep package from being updated?':
 On Thursday 11 January 2007 16:21, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
  add =cate-gory/package-1.6* to your package.mask

 That too isn't a valid atom. Lose the '*'. It's only valid with '=' not
 '=' or '~'... Valid atoms are described in `man 5 ebuild`.

Ah, fooey, I was hoping I could mix and match, freely.  I clearly don't use 
atoms enough.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ATI Radeon 9550

2007-01-11 Thread Sean

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 09:19:47 -0500, sean wrote:

Did a slocate for radeon_drv and it located it in the proper xorg 
location for the drivers. Tried xorg again, it failed the same way.

Went to the driver location, and the radeon driver is not present.
Tried an slocate again, it states that the radeon driver is where it
should be. At a loss for this one.


slocate only tells you the file was there the last time updatedb was run.




Thanks Neil.

That must of occurred from when I emerged xf86-video-ati and then later 
removed it before trying out the ati-driver, which I figured would 
supply it's own version of the radeon driver, which, at least for me, it 
has not.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how do I keep package from being updated?

2007-01-11 Thread John covici
If I have two versions on the systems, how would apache and the cli
pick what version they are going to use?

on Thursday 01/11/2007 Hans-Werner Hilse([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
  Hi,
  
  On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:38:38 -0500
  John covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   OK, I did put my php version in the /etc/portage/package.mask, but it
   still wants to install a new major version -- curiously it says ebuild
   -ns rather than just -n or -u.  I put the following line in there
   =dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8
  
  you don't want to mask the currently installed version (=), but rather the
  versions greater () than it.
  
   which is my current version of php and emerge said
   [ebuild  NS   ] dev-lang/php-5.1.6-r6  USE=berkdb cli crypt gdbm
   [...]
  
  interesting. Yes, that NS is for a New, Slotted version. I.e., PHP4
  will still be on your system, so you might already stop worrying at
  this point. In fact, I don't really know how to mask a version in a
  different slot. I would have even expected my suggestion to do that
  anyway. But this makes much more sense, because there should be a
  seperate masking for each of the slots -- and it resembles the
  behaviour from the profile's masks. So you might add another line to
  your package.mask, following Boyd Stephen's suggestion to mask with
  =:
  
  =dev-lang/php-5.0.0
  
  
  
  -hwh
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[gentoo-user] Re: net.eth0 device initiated services

2007-01-11 Thread »Q«
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 you could emerge ifplugd, then the startup scripts won't try to
 initialise eth0 if no cable is detected.

Is there something like this which will bring my wireless connection up
or down depending on whether the device is found?  (My laptop has a
hardware switch to turn the wireless card on/off).

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Re: [gentoo-user] how do I keep package from being updated?

2007-01-11 Thread Ryan Sims

On 1/11/07, John covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If I have two versions on the systems, how would apache and the cli
pick what version they are going to use?


I think there was just a thread on top-posting, btw.

IIRC, you pass -DPHP5 or -DPHP4 to apache in /etc/conf.d/apache
(or possibly /etc/conf.d/apache2).  As for cli, I'm not sure, I
haven't used it much.


on Thursday 01/11/2007 Hans-Werner Hilse([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
  Hi,
 
  On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:38:38 -0500
  John covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   OK, I did put my php version in the /etc/portage/package.mask, but it
   still wants to install a new major version -- curiously it says ebuild
   -ns rather than just -n or -u.  I put the following line in there
   =dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8
 
  you don't want to mask the currently installed version (=), but rather the
  versions greater () than it.
 
   which is my current version of php and emerge said
   [ebuild  NS   ] dev-lang/php-5.1.6-r6  USE=berkdb cli crypt gdbm
   [...]
 
  interesting. Yes, that NS is for a New, Slotted version. I.e., PHP4
  will still be on your system, so you might already stop worrying at
  this point. In fact, I don't really know how to mask a version in a
  different slot. I would have even expected my suggestion to do that
  anyway. But this makes much more sense, because there should be a
  seperate masking for each of the slots -- and it resembles the
  behaviour from the profile's masks. So you might add another line to
  your package.mask, following Boyd Stephen's suggestion to mask with
  =:
 
  =dev-lang/php-5.0.0
 
 
 
  -hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] how do I keep package from being updated?

2007-01-11 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Thursday 11 January 2007 18:56, John covici wrote:
 If I have two versions on the systems, how would apache and the cli
 pick what version they are going to use?

Apparently there's a php-select tool [1]. And I think apache has separate init 
scripts and use flags for each slot. You should have a look at the apache 
docs at [2] too.

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/php/php-upgrading.xml
[2] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/list.xml

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Re: [gentoo-user] how do I keep package from being updated?

2007-01-11 Thread kashani

John Covici wrote:

Hi.  I just did emerge --pretend --update --deep world, but there is a
package which I don't want to have emerge update automatically -- how
do I accomplish this?

Thanks.



Assuming this is going back to the PHP thing, this will allow you to 
update to future versions of 4.x without moving to 5.0 or better.


echo =dev-lang/php-5  /etc/portage/package.mask

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[gentoo-user] hda soundcard and microphone

2007-01-11 Thread Matthew R. Lee
I'm still trying to get an external microphone working on my laptop.  I've 
been googling around for the last few hours and searching the alsa-wiki for 
info but I've not found the answer yet.

Here's the setup.  I have a Compaq Presario V5000 laptop.  It has the HDA 
soundcard (82801G (ICH7)) with the Conexant CXT5047 chip.  I do not have the 
alsa drivers compiled in the kernel I'm using alsa-driver-1.0.14-rc1 which 
was compiled with ALSA_CARDS set to hda_intel.
Sound playback is fine with amarok, mplayer, xine, etc

alsamixer gives me the following controls to play with 
Master, PCM, Mic Bypa, IEC958, Capture, ExtMic
I know what Master and PCM do
Mic Bypa can be set to capture or not
I'm not sure what to do with IEC958, it can be either muted or on
Capture can be set to capture or not and has volume control
ExtMic is set to capture and can not be changed, it also has no volume control

I've tried various combinations of setting but without success
Can anybody help me out, I'd love to be able to use skype again, it's a hell 
of a lot cheaper than making international calls home from a regular 
telephone.

Thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-11 Thread b.n.

Jorge Almeida ha scritto:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Kent Fredric wrote:



Generally, these devices provide full DHCP, DNS,NTP, Port/Host based
routing/firewalling etc, and all users are NAT'ed behind it.

Generally, the modem handles all the potentially difficult nasties of
gettting the PPP stuff underway, and you cant even tell what your
external IP is unless you query the modems web interface. To the user,
you can just be 192.168.1.50, and the modem can be 192.168.1.1, and
the modem being the default gateway, and all the rest is handled by
NAT magic.


So this means that all firewalling is made by the router, who knows with
what software...


Well, you can disable router firewalling and firewalling your box, why 
not? Actually, that's the most sensible thing to do.


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Re: [gentoo-user] how do I keep package from being updated?

2007-01-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:28:51 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:

  It would be better to use ~pkg-category/package-0.0.1. this allows
  patch level updates, such as 0.0.1-r1 while not permitting an update
  to a higher upstream version.  
 
 That isn't a valid atom and it plain doesn't work. Even if it did it
 wouldn't have the intended effect since it would mask -r*...

I tested it before posting and it did work. It didn't mask -r*, allowing
a upgrade.


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Re: [gentoo-user] how do I keep package from being updated?

2007-01-11 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Thursday 11 January 2007 21:32, Neil Bothwick wrote:
   It would be better to use ~pkg-category/package-0.0.1. this allows
   patch level updates, such as 0.0.1-r1 while not permitting an update
   to a higher upstream version.  
 
  That isn't a valid atom and it plain doesn't work. Even if it did it
  wouldn't have the intended effect since it would mask -r*...

 I tested it before posting and it did work. It didn't mask -r*, allowing
 a upgrade.

It doesn't work at all. Nothing gets masked. It's simply ignored:

# cat /etc/portage/package.mask
~dev-lang/php-4.4.4
# emerge -p php
[SNIP]
[ebuild  N] dev-lang/php-5.1.6-r6  USE=...

# cat /etc/portage/package.mask
dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r
# emerge -p php
[SNIP]
[ebuild  N] dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r6  USE=...

That goes for both stable and ~arch portage.


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Re: [gentoo-user] lspci missing ATI details

2007-01-11 Thread Jakob

On 1/10/07, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

I'm not sure when it happened, but lspci (lspci -vvv) does not
report on the details of my ATI 1900 video card, like it
did a few weeks ago, when I last checked.


Any ideas which upgrades/packages could be affecting this,
lack of detail?

I rebuilt the lastest stable release of pciutils, but that
did not restore the information on the card, nor did
installing version (~)2.2.4 fix the problem.


Any ideas or suggestions?


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I think pciutils was updated same days ago, maybe it helps to
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Re: [gentoo-user] how do I keep package from being updated?

2007-01-11 Thread John covici
Also, what did work was dev-lang/php-5 I wish there was a way to see
what it was ignoring, etc.

on Thursday 01/11/2007 Bo Ørsted Andresen([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
  On Thursday 11 January 2007 21:32, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 It would be better to use ~pkg-category/package-0.0.1. this allows
 patch level updates, such as 0.0.1-r1 while not permitting an update
 to a higher upstream version.  
   
That isn't a valid atom and it plain doesn't work. Even if it did it
wouldn't have the intended effect since it would mask -r*...
  
   I tested it before posting and it did work. It didn't mask -r*, allowing
   a upgrade.
  
  It doesn't work at all. Nothing gets masked. It's simply ignored:
  
  # cat /etc/portage/package.mask
  ~dev-lang/php-4.4.4
  # emerge -p php
  [SNIP]
  [ebuild  N] dev-lang/php-5.1.6-r6  USE=...
  
  # cat /etc/portage/package.mask
  dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r
  # emerge -p php
  [SNIP]
  [ebuild  N] dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r6  USE=...
  
  That goes for both stable and ~arch portage.
  
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] how do I keep package from being updated?

2007-01-11 Thread kashani

John covici wrote:

Also, what did work was dev-lang/php-5 I wish there was a way to see
what it was ignoring, etc.



emerge eix
eix -pv php

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[gentoo-user] problem with 'source' in heartbeat init script

2007-01-11 Thread Cry Wolf
I'm trying to use heartbeat, but running into a bit of a snag at the
very beginning.  The init script attempts to source a file with '.
$HA_DIR/shellfuncs'.  shellfuncs tries to figure out what its name is
with 'basename $0'.  The problem is that $0 contains the name of the
shell instead of the name of the file being executed, and so it
quietly fails, although the init script appears to start successfully.

Is there a good workaround for this?
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Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-11 Thread Jorge Almeida

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, b.n. wrote:

 
  Generally, the modem handles all the potentially difficult nasties of

  gettting the PPP stuff underway, and you cant even tell what your
  external IP is unless you query the modems web interface. To the user,
  you can just be 192.168.1.50, and the modem can be 192.168.1.1, and
  the modem being the default gateway, and all the rest is handled by
  NAT magic.

 So this means that all firewalling is made by the router, who knows with
 what software...


Well, you can disable router firewalling and firewalling your box, why not? 
Actually, that's the most sensible thing to do.



I think I was confused and said nonsense. The box having a private IP
doesn't preclude it seeing the IP of incoming packets, so I suppose I
can have the router firewall active (whatever it may be) and also
Shorewall on the workstation. After all, redundant security doesn't
hurt.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how do I keep package from being updated?

2007-01-11 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Thursday 11 January 2007 22:43, John covici wrote:
 Also, what did work was dev-lang/php-5 I wish there was a way to see
 what it was ignoring, etc.

An invalid atom like e.g.: =dev-lang/php-4* will make portage 2.1.2 spit 
out a warning about it being an invalid atom. I do consider the fact that it 
completely ignores ~ atoms rather than spitting out a warning to be a bug. 

In other words portage is moving towards more validation and unit tests so 
eventually it will catch all sorts of invalid input... In the mean time
`man 5 ebuild` describes valid atoms.

PS: Please stop top-posting.

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[gentoo-user] Re: ATI Radeon 9550

2007-01-11 Thread James
sean tech.junk at verizon.net writes:

 I emerged the latest drivers you specified above and -dri stable 
 drivers, these actually compiled.
 The xorg configure keeps crashing, but I played around with my earlier 
 xorg config.

Well, if you like I'll email directly to you my xorg.conf file for my
ati-1900. There are numerous differences compared to any of my radeon 
compatible xorg.conf files...

 Here is a real odd one. Having specified the radeon driver, started 
 xorg, and it fails stating cannot find the radeon driver.

Hold on a second; you need to 'double check' my advice because I 
did everything over and over, including building new kernels with
the options that various web pages recommended, before I got mine to 
work. So I'll give you advice and relate my experiences, but, I do not
have ati-drivers worked out to the point of a flawless (correct)
installation proceedure. Sometimes you just have to bang on the
install a few times.

What is really needed is for one of the smart peole on this list
to write a simple one page wiki for ati-drivers, with version 8.32.5
and xorg 7.1. That said here goes:

A. You are not running the 'radeon driver' you are running the ati-drivers
binary driver, sometimes referred to a fglrx

B. /etc/make.conf: I have this entry, because somebody told me that
what they did, not that is was perfectly correct:
VIDEO_CARDS=radeon vesa  vesa is the backup if radeon croakes

yes it conflicts with what I just told you, but, who knows?
Ati driver referred to a radeon?

C. 'modules-update' needs to be ran after building kernels
and after rebuildling xorg-x11? (or something like that).

D. Graphics acceleration (dri, drm, fglrx, glxgears, opengl etc etc)
and many more specific are still a little confusing to me. So you have
to surf the various web pages and figure out a sequence that works...


E. No matter what I did, mine did not work, until I deleted my xorg.conf
and used 'xorgconfig' to build a new file from scratch. If you do that
Then you have to get the monitor work and check what modules you
are loading. When I first generated the file, only a few modules
where in the xorg.conf and it worked fine:

  Load  dbe
Load  freetype
 Load  dri
 Load  glx

 Did a slocate for radeon_drv and it located it in the proper xorg 
 location for the drivers. Tried xorg again, it failed the same way.
 Went to the driver location, and the radeon driver is not present. Tried 
 an slocate again, it states that the radeon driver is where it should be.
 At a loss for this one.

man updatedb   tells you that in order to update the database that
slocate access, you have to periodically run  'updatedb'

after updates I use this command string to catch the system files
and other things I use (like slocate):

env-update  source /etc/profile  etc-update  update-eix  eupdatedb

come up with your onw scheme and use it, so you do not get caught
with the slocate, eix or other tools, out of wack.


 Right now to simplify things removing SMP from the kernel, saw a lot of 
 remarks stating SMP often on early versions of the driver caused problems.


I keep 4 or more kernels on every system. When I run into issues, I can
just go back a few revs/versions on kernels to see if that is an issue.
I experiment with lots of kernel options and stuff, as do many gentoo
folks...


 Has anyone tried the driver install script right from ati instead of 
 portage?

nope, but the page I used which I  have now lost the bookmark to
was discovered right after looking at the ati site. It was not
even gentoo specific.

 I am just about ready to go get an nvidia card.


Well, that's your business, but as a firmware engineer, I do not
see nvidia as any better. In fact they *NEVER* release hardware
details about driver cards.  I'm not so sure that the problems with
figuring out problems with ati-drivers is so much due to the
lack of ati-driver quality, as it is with a lack of enthusiasm
with the folks that take the published ati-binaries and package
the drivers for the varous versions of linux kernels, X sources,
and linux distros.

yea it's my opinion, but, I write firmware all day long and deal
with digital hardware and semiconductor vendors but it's just
a feeling resulting in an option  Futhermore, just look at the amount
of old gentoo documentation that has not even been update for 
xorg 7.x or the newer (testing) ati-drivers). Even in the gentoo
community, there is little enthusiams to straighten out the 
documentation mess surrounding 
Even if Nvidia is better (which I doubt) certainly we can maintain
the ATI docs in a little bit more concise manner, just like
amd and intel are both supported, but amd64 definately is more
linux friendly. Which leads me to hope that AMD cleans up the
ati-drivers mess also.

Futhermore if you follow the kernel
stuffage, you definately see certain vendors and their consultants
and employees gaining uneven treatment with the whole area of 
drivers(again in my opinion). 

Re: [gentoo-user] how do I keep package from being updated?

2007-01-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:43:34 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:

  I tested it before posting and it did work. It didn't mask -r*,
  allowing a upgrade.  
 
 It doesn't work at all. Nothing gets masked. It's simply ignored:

You're right, I didn't test very effectively. I should have just checked
the man pages. Apologies for the noise.

Portage usually complains about invalid atoms. Why did it wait until I
was about to make a prat of myself before deciding not to do so? :(


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Re: [gentoo-user] ATI Radeon 9550

2007-01-11 Thread Mark Kirkwood

sean wrote:



I tried the xf86-video-ati driver as you suggested. Xorg just starts up, 
is blank or black for a few moments then just ends. Cannot find out a 
reason why at this point.




Hmmm - I notice from another email that you have lost your .so for 
radeon, so that might be an issue, so after reinstalling xf86-video-ati 
maybe try the steps I followed.


I didn't select direct rendering support in-kernel (not sure if doing 
that and *not* emerging x11-drm is better, but anyway):



# echo INPUT_DEVICES=\keyboard mouse\  /etc/make.conf
# echo VIDEO_CARDS=\radeon vesa\  /etc/make.conf
# VIDEO_CARDS=radeon emerge x11-drm
# emerge xorg-x11
# env-update
# source /etc/profile
# Xorg -configure   # fails mouse detect
# sed 's/\/dev\/mouse/\/dev\/input\/mice/' xorg.conf.new   xorg.conf.newer
# Xorg -config `pwd`/xorg.conf.newer
# cp xorg.conf.newer /etc/X11/xorg.conf # only if prev works!

Note that Xorg -configure seems to fail to detect the mouse device, but 
gives an otherwise good file.


The 2nd to last last step should give a working X server (default 
background with a mouse cross). If it doesn't then there is an issue!


Cheers

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Is this normal?

2007-01-11 Thread Kent Fredric

On 1/12/07, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is this normal?:

2899 root  17   0  131m  35m  224 R  0.3 59.2  11:03.55 cc1

I took this from a `top` listing.  I'm trying to emerge
sys-devel/gcc-4.1.1-r3 on my server box.  The merge hasn't moved much in


You may find
sys-process/htop
more useful for everyday tasks.


But if you have a problem with real memory allocation somewhere and
its working on everything in swap space, you might get things a little
slower than you expect.

Apart from that situation, you may have had gcc die and you may want
to restart it.

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[gentoo-user] usb scanner HP2200c

2007-01-11 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby (R12y)
Hi,

I have an USB scanner HP2200c.

It is automatically detected and used with Fedora and Ubuntu.
But on my personnal laptop, I use Gentoo and I would like it to be
detected.
I have installed xsane and its dependencies (sane-backends, hplip,...)

When I launch xsane, it says it does not detect any device.
I launch it as user, I already added me to the scanner group.


# grep mihamina /etc/group
root::0:root,mihamina
disk::6:root,adm,mihamina
wheel::10:root,mihamina
audio::18:mihamina
cdrom::19:mihamina
cdrw::80:mihamina
portage::250:portage,root,mihamina
mihamina:x:1000:
scanner:!:1002:mihamina


I did not touch any of the files under /etc/sane.d/.
And last:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ sane-find-scanner -q
found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0 [Hewlett-Packard], 
product=0x0605 [HP ScanJet 2200C], chip=LM9832/3) at libusb:003:003
found USB scanner (vendor=0x05e1, product=0x0501) at libusb:001:003


The second found device is an embeded webcam. Nothing to do with a
scanner.
What should I do to make my scanner detected by xsane?

Thank you.

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[gentoo-user] CTRL-ALT-NUM+

2007-01-11 Thread David Corbin
For some unknown reason, CTRL-ALT-NUM+ has stopped working for me.  I'm 
reasonably sure it happened when I switch from KDE-monolithic to the 
individual KDE packages, odd as that sounds.

I've sought help from #xorg and #gentoo  on IRC, but no one has been able to 
help.  I can tell you this:

1) I do not have DontZoom in my xorg.conf file.
2) xrandr lists several resolutions (more than I expected) and can switch 
between at least two.  But the switch is different than expected, in that it 
changed the desktop size too.
3) X Window System Version 7.1.1
Release Date: 12 May 2006
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1

Any ideas on how to solve this problem are appreciated.

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[gentoo-user] Improvement Request for Install CD

2007-01-11 Thread Matthias Fechner
Hi,

I miss the tool cpio on the install CD. Where ca I submit that feature
request?

I would really appriciate it to have cpio on the install cd.

Thx a lot
Matthias

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[gentoo-user] Re: CTRL-ALT-NUM+

2007-01-11 Thread Harm Geerts
On Friday 12 January 2007 01:34, David Corbin wrote:
 For some unknown reason, CTRL-ALT-NUM+ has stopped working for me.  I'm
 reasonably sure it happened when I switch from KDE-monolithic to the
 individual KDE packages, odd as that sounds.

 I've sought help from #xorg and #gentoo  on IRC, but no one has been able
 to help.  I can tell you this:

 1) I do not have DontZoom in my xorg.conf file.
 2) xrandr lists several resolutions (more than I expected) and can switch
 between at least two.  But the switch is different than expected, in that
 it changed the desktop size too.
 3) X Window System Version 7.1.1
 Release Date: 12 May 2006
 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1

 Any ideas on how to solve this problem are appreciated.

I *think* these events are passed directly to X, not to kde.
So that would rule out the upgrade from monolithic kde.

If I recall correctly the kde monolithic switch was around the same time Xorg 
had a major upgrade. In that upgrade there were some radical changes to the 
keyboard configuration. Is it possible the CTRL-ALT-NUM+ event doesn't 
trigger because the keyboard config is incorrect?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Improvement Request for Install CD

2007-01-11 Thread Avaricen
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Matthias Fechner wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I miss the tool cpio on the install CD. Where ca I submit that feature
 request?
 
 I would really appriciate it to have cpio on the install cd.
 
 Thx a lot
 Matthias
 
I'd suggest reading, start here:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Gentoo_LiveCD_and_LiveUSB
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CTRL-ALT-NUM+

2007-01-11 Thread Avaricen
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Harm Geerts wrote:
 On Friday 12 January 2007 01:34, David Corbin wrote:
 For some unknown reason, CTRL-ALT-NUM+ has stopped working for me.  I'm
 reasonably sure it happened when I switch from KDE-monolithic to the
 individual KDE packages, odd as that sounds.

 I've sought help from #xorg and #gentoo  on IRC, but no one has been able
 to help.  I can tell you this:

 1) I do not have DontZoom in my xorg.conf file.
 2) xrandr lists several resolutions (more than I expected) and can switch
 between at least two.  But the switch is different than expected, in that
 it changed the desktop size too.
 3) X Window System Version 7.1.1
 Release Date: 12 May 2006
 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1

 Any ideas on how to solve this problem are appreciated.
 
 I *think* these events are passed directly to X, not to kde.
 So that would rule out the upgrade from monolithic kde.
 
 If I recall correctly the kde monolithic switch was around the same time Xorg 
 had a major upgrade. In that upgrade there were some radical changes to the 
 keyboard configuration. Is it possible the CTRL-ALT-NUM+ event doesn't 
 trigger because the keyboard config is incorrect?
Have you attempted using CTRL-ALT-NUM+ on another desktop env?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CTRL-ALT-NUM+

2007-01-11 Thread Justin Findlay
On AD 2007 January 12 Friday 02:05:22 AM +, Avaricen wrote:
 Have you attempted using CTRL-ALT-NUM+ on another desktop env?

Even TWM should work in case you don't want to emerge anything.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CTRL-ALT-NUM+

2007-01-11 Thread Avaricen
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Justin Findlay wrote:
 On AD 2007 January 12 Friday 02:05:22 AM +, Avaricen wrote:
 Have you attempted using CTRL-ALT-NUM+ on another desktop env?
 
 Even TWM should work in case you don't want to emerge anything.
 
 
 Justin
Agreed, however if its a case of which its not DE specific. Then you'd
be dealing with a matter beyond the scope of my horizon. I think you
should ask an xorg developer if thats the case.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CTRL-ALT-NUM+

2007-01-11 Thread David Corbin
On Thursday 11 January 2007 21:05, Avaricen wrote:
 Harm Geerts wrote:
  On Friday 12 January 2007 01:34, David Corbin wrote:
  For some unknown reason, CTRL-ALT-NUM+ has stopped working for me.  I'm
  reasonably sure it happened when I switch from KDE-monolithic to the
  individual KDE packages, odd as that sounds.
 
  I've sought help from #xorg and #gentoo  on IRC, but no one has been
  able to help.  I can tell you this:
 
  1) I do not have DontZoom in my xorg.conf file.
  2) xrandr lists several resolutions (more than I expected) and can
  switch between at least two.  But the switch is different than expected,
  in that it changed the desktop size too.
  3) X Window System Version 7.1.1
  Release Date: 12 May 2006
  X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1
 
  Any ideas on how to solve this problem are appreciated.
 
  I *think* these events are passed directly to X, not to kde.
  So that would rule out the upgrade from monolithic kde.
 
  If I recall correctly the kde monolithic switch was around the same time
  Xorg had a major upgrade. In that upgrade there were some radical changes
  to the keyboard configuration. Is it possible the CTRL-ALT-NUM+ event
  doesn't trigger because the keyboard config is incorrect?

 Have you attempted using CTRL-ALT-NUM+ on another desktop env?

I have now, and it also fails.  And I notice that CTRL-ALT-F1 will not switch 
me to a virtual terminal.

David
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CTRL-ALT-NUM+

2007-01-11 Thread Avaricen
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David Corbin wrote:
 On Thursday 11 January 2007 21:05, Avaricen wrote:
 Harm Geerts wrote:
 On Friday 12 January 2007 01:34, David Corbin wrote:
 For some unknown reason, CTRL-ALT-NUM+ has stopped working for me.  I'm
 reasonably sure it happened when I switch from KDE-monolithic to the
 individual KDE packages, odd as that sounds.

 I've sought help from #xorg and #gentoo  on IRC, but no one has been
 able to help.  I can tell you this:

 1) I do not have DontZoom in my xorg.conf file.
 2) xrandr lists several resolutions (more than I expected) and can
 switch between at least two.  But the switch is different than expected,
 in that it changed the desktop size too.
 3) X Window System Version 7.1.1
 Release Date: 12 May 2006
 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1

 Any ideas on how to solve this problem are appreciated.
 I *think* these events are passed directly to X, not to kde.
 So that would rule out the upgrade from monolithic kde.

 If I recall correctly the kde monolithic switch was around the same time
 Xorg had a major upgrade. In that upgrade there were some radical changes
 to the keyboard configuration. Is it possible the CTRL-ALT-NUM+ event
 doesn't trigger because the keyboard config is incorrect?
 Have you attempted using CTRL-ALT-NUM+ on another desktop env?
 
 I have now, and it also fails.  And I notice that CTRL-ALT-F1 will not switch 
 me to a virtual terminal.
 
 David

I suggest reporting the matter to xorg developers.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CTRL-ALT-NUM+

2007-01-11 Thread David Corbin
Success, but I can't explain it all.

First, I removed 'Option   XkbVariant nodeadkeys ' from xorg.conf.  
That got the VT working and the Zooming. But ALT-TAB wasn't working at all.   
Now, earlier I had problems with the WIN key not working for me as I wanted 
it to, and adde some xmodmap entires for the WIN key (but not the ALT key).  

Still, I got suspicous, and took those out, but the XkbVariant back, and now 
everything including the WIN key is working.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CTRL-ALT-NUM+

2007-01-11 Thread Avaricen
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David Corbin wrote:
 Success, but I can't explain it all.
 
 First, I removed 'Option   XkbVariant nodeadkeys ' from xorg.conf.  
 That got the VT working and the Zooming. But ALT-TAB wasn't working at all.   
 Now, earlier I had problems with the WIN key not working for me as I wanted 
 it to, and adde some xmodmap entires for the WIN key (but not the ALT key).  
 
 Still, I got suspicous, and took those out, but the XkbVariant back, and now 
 everything including the WIN key is working.
 
Nice to know you got it working alright, did you modify your xorg.conf?
Was this problem since your inception to Gentoo?

Best
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Re: [gentoo-user] Several Gentoo-Problems

2007-01-11 Thread Richard Fish

On 1/11/07, chrissie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 * Include in your bugreport the contents of:
 *
 *   /var/tmp/portage/gnutls-1.4.4-r1/temp/autoconf-31509.out

balearen chrissie # cat /var/tmp/portage/gnutls-1.4.4-r1/temp/autoconf-31509.out
* autoconf *
configure.in:326: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PATH_LIBOPENCDK
  If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.
  See the Autoconf documentation.


Looks like http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161173

Try:
WANT_AUTOMAKE=1.9 emerge --oneshot =net-libs/gnutls-1.4.4-r1
emerge --resume

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[gentoo-user] emerge fails after eix-sync

2007-01-11 Thread Alan E. Davis

This amd64 machine hasn't been updated in a while.  Now, after updating, any
emerge, eix-sync, or ebuild command gets a long message, as follows:

Littlebird etc # emerge --sync

cfg-update-1.8.0-r3 : No new packages have been emerged, checksum index

OK...
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File /usr/bin/emerge, line 4391, in ?
   retval = emerge_main()
 File /usr/bin/emerge, line 4100, in emerge_main
   settings, trees, mtimedb = load_emerge_config()
 File /usr/bin/emerge, line 4011, in load_emerge_config
   trees = portage.create_trees(trees=trees, **kwargs)
 File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 7122, in create_trees
   config_incrementals=portage_const.INCREMENTALS)
 File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 1057, in __init__
   for k, v in rawprofileuse.iteritems():
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'iteritems'


I found that /etc/make.profile was linked to a non-existent (now)
  /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd-64/2005.1

FInding a message about this on the forums, I deleted /etc/make.profile, and
linked it to
  /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd-64/2006.1/desktop

emerge still doesn't work.

Should I set PORTDIR=/usr/portage in make.conf?

Thank you for any ideas.  I haven't had this machine online for some months.

Alan Davis

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge fails after eix-sync

2007-01-11 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Friday 12 January 2007 08:00, Alan E. Davis wrote:
 AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'iteritems'

In the future at the very least include what version of portage you use with a 
traceback from portage like this. In this case, however, it just requires to 
search bugzie:

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143730

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge fails after eix-sync

2007-01-11 Thread Alan E. Davis

Gee whiz!  That was fast!

That didn't seem like the same bug, exactly, but the cure worked.  mkdir
/etc/portage/profile !


Alan

On 1/12/07, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Friday 12 January 2007 08:00, Alan E. Davis wrote:
 AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'iteritems'

In the future at the very least include what version of portage you use
with a
traceback from portage like this. In this case, however, it just requires
to
search bugzie:

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143730

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Re: [gentoo-user] Several Gentoo-Problems

2007-01-11 Thread chrissie
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 09:12:28PM -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
 
 Looks like http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161173
 
 Try:
 WANT_AUTOMAKE=1.9 emerge --oneshot =net-libs/gnutls-1.4.4-r1
 emerge --resume

Thanks, this works.
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