Re: [gentoo-user] Is the mailing list working?

2008-05-07 Thread Tony Caudel
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Aaron Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 7-May-08, at 5:39 AM, Dale wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I checked gentoo.org and even a quick search on the forums but didn't > > see anything about a massive boo boo. Just trying to see what is up here. > > > > Pardon

Re: [gentoo-user] Disk upgrade sanity check pls

2008-05-07 Thread Wang, Baojun
hi, I think it's better to use LVM to manage your partitions, it will be much less painful.. Wang 在 2008-05-08四的 16:20 +1000,Adam Carter写道: > I'm running out of disk space on my laptop and the new disk arrived > today. > > Old setup; 60 gig drive; > /dev/hda1 = /home (used to be windows, hen

[gentoo-user] Disk upgrade sanity check pls

2008-05-07 Thread Adam Carter
I'm running out of disk space on my laptop and the new disk arrived today. Old setup; 60 gig drive; /dev/hda1 = /home (used to be windows, hence the partition number) /dev/hda2 = swap /dev/hda3 = / New setup; 250 gig drive /dev/hda1 = / (including /home) /dev/hda2 = swap Here's my plan; - make a

[gentoo-user] Re: Question about gstreamer

2008-05-07 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Thursday 08 May 2008, AJ Spagnoletti wrote: > Here is the relavent output from eix gstreamer: > > [UD] media-libs/gstreamer >      Available versions:  (0.10)  0.10.14 (~)0.10.17 (~)0.10.19 > {debug nls test} >      Installed versions:  0.8.11(0.8)(18:40:46 04/24/07)(-debug -doc) >  

Re: [gentoo-user] untaring backup as a test

2008-05-07 Thread Wang, Baojun
在 2008-05-07三的 19:49 -0700,Mark Knecht写道: > Hi, >I'd just like to confirm this before I make a mistake and hurt my system. > >The existing system drive is /dev/sda: > > /dev/sda3 is root > /dev/sda1 is boot > > That's all there is. > >Using the stage4 tar I idea I added a drive whic

[gentoo-user] Is the mailing list working?

2008-05-07 Thread Dale
Hi folks, Keep in mind that I am having to look at the archives to see your posts. I also can't "reply" the normal way either. I'm not using Gmail, I'm using a bellsouth address. I also noticed that when I go to the webmail address for my email, it switches to att.net now. I think AT&T is

[gentoo-user] untaring backup as a test

2008-05-07 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi, I'd just like to confirm this before I make a mistake and hurt my system. The existing system drive is /dev/sda: /dev/sda3 is root /dev/sda1 is boot That's all there is. Using the stage4 tar I idea I added a drive which is /dev/sdb and has these partitions of interest /dev/sdb3 wi

[gentoo-user] Question about gstreamer

2008-05-07 Thread AJ Spagnoletti
Hi, after a recent update I ran revdep-rebuild and I am confused by the output. Here is the trimmed output: All prepared. Starting rebuild... emerge --oneshot -p =gnome-extra/libgsf-1.14.3 =gnome-extra/evolution-webcal-2.12.0 =gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-1.12.3 =gnome-extra/bug-buddy-2.20.1

Re: [gentoo-user] Is the mailing list working?

2008-05-07 Thread Aaron Clark
On 7-May-08, at 5:39 AM, Dale wrote: Hi folks, I checked gentoo.org and even a quick search on the forums but didn't see anything about a massive boo boo. Just trying to see what is up here. Pardon the noise but could someone reply to let me know it's still working? Last message I go

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 07 May 2008 17:16:01 +0200, Michael Schmarck wrote: > > > >> Why not put ext* or reiserfs or whatever on such a drive? > > > > > > Because you need to access it from Windows too? > > > > To a backup device? Why?

Re: [gentoo-user] Today's sync breaks stuff

2008-05-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 07 May 2008, b.n. wrote: > > libtool got bumped to 2.2.4, which installs libltdl.so.3 which > > breaks a huge list of dependencies - much longer than I've seen in > > ages. In my case my dm and wm were broken so when X starts nothing > > happens and I lost the keyboard. Couldn't even g

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 07 May 2008 17:16:01 +0200, Michael Schmarck wrote: > >> Why not put ext* or reiserfs or whatever on such a drive? > > > > Because you need to access it from Windows too? > > To a backup device? Why? Don't Windows users need to backup? -- Neil Bothwick Why is the alphabet in tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Is the mailing list working?

2008-05-07 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mittwoch, 7. Mai 2008, Tony Caudel wrote: > > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:39 AM, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > I checked gentoo.org and even a quick search on the forums but didn't se

Re: [gentoo-user] Is the mailing list working?

2008-05-07 Thread Sandro Hannemann
> maybe your mails are filtered as spam? it is possible > (one more reason not to use gmail). This is certainly not the reason for the problems, the guys in this thread are having. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Is the mailing list working?

2008-05-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch, 7. Mai 2008, Tony Caudel wrote: > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:39 AM, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I checked gentoo.org and even a quick search on the forums but didn't see > > anything about a massive boo boo. Just trying to see what is up here. > > > > Pardon th

Re: [gentoo-user] Is the mailing list working?

2008-05-07 Thread Tony Caudel
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:39 AM, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi folks, > > I checked gentoo.org and even a quick search on the forums but didn't see > anything about a massive boo boo. Just trying to see what is up here. > > Pardon the noise but could someone reply to let me know it's still

Re: [gentoo-user] Today's sync breaks stuff

2008-05-07 Thread b.n.
Alan McKinnon ha scritto: Hi all, Here follows a quick heads up to save someone's hair (mine's been pulled out). If you emerge --sync && emerge world today, make sure you do it the right way this time: 1. read the elogs 2. revdep-rebuild 3. then and only then, reboot. Better still, exit X

Re: [gentoo-user] What version of netscape-flash to use with konqueror?

2008-05-07 Thread Mike Williams
On Wednesday 07 May 2008 10:43:30 Robin Atwood wrote: > > Taken, sucessfully, from > > http://mikearthur.co.uk/2007/12/konqueror-with-latest-adobe-flash-howto/ > > Thanks for the link. I tried it and although the kmplayer plugin now loads, > it makes a hash of playing the flash content; I get a bit

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Looking for SATA controller recommendation

2008-05-07 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 17:32 -0500, Roy Wright wrote: > Howdy, > > I'm looking to add three more drives to my system for a software RAID5 > media volume. I've used all my motherboard SATA ports so need a SATA > controller. I don't want a hardware RAID controller (been there, burned > when control

Re: [gentoo-user] Today's sync breaks stuff

2008-05-07 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 18:00 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Hi all, > > Here follows a quick heads up to save someone's hair (mine's been pulled > out). > > If you emerge --sync && emerge world today, make sure you do it the > right way this time: > > 1. read the elogs > 2. revdep-rebuild > 3. t

Re: [gentoo-user] WTF? VMWare server modules blocks :/

2008-05-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 07 May 2008, Alex Schuster wrote: > Alan McKinnon writes: > > For whatever reason (and it will be a good technical one) the only > > version of vmware-modules you can use is 1.0.0.15*. So, you need > > to: > > > > cd /etc/portage > > echo ">=app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.16" >> pa

Re: [gentoo-user] back up gentoo system

2008-05-07 Thread Steven Lembark
>> If you're using 'dd' does that mean you're copying the entire filesystem >> and not just the files? I believe that can run you into some issues if the >> FS isn't read-only... > > What kind of issues? The idea is to copy the whole filesystem to another disk > and keep it sync. And in case of "

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tar a brand new Gentoo install to a USB drive for safe keeping?

2008-05-07 Thread Steven Lembark
tar xvfp SYSTEM.tar.bz2 >>> To extract bzip2 files with tar, you need to add the "j" option. >> That hasn't been needed for a long time. Tar is able to detect bzip2 and >> gzip compression and handle it automatically. > > That's only true for GNU tar. If you're also dealing with other > syste

[gentoo-user] Today's sync breaks stuff

2008-05-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
Hi all, Here follows a quick heads up to save someone's hair (mine's been pulled out). If you emerge --sync && emerge world today, make sure you do it the right way this time: 1. read the elogs 2. revdep-rebuild 3. then and only then, reboot. Better still, exit X and log in again to make sure

Re: [gentoo-user] WTF? VMWare server modules blocks :/

2008-05-07 Thread Alex Schuster
Alan McKinnon writes: For whatever reason (and it will be a good technical one) the only version of vmware-modules you can use is 1.0.0.15*. So, you need to: cd /etc/portage echo ">=app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.16" >> package.use emerge -avuND world Um, make this package.mask. Oh, and

[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-07 Thread Michael Schmarck
Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 07 May 2008 16:41:17 +0200, Michael Schmarck wrote: > >> >> Can you elaborate more on the latter, please? What exactly is rsync >> >> relying on and which fs wouldn't meet the requirements. >> > >> > FAT on an external drive, >> >> Why not put

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 07 May 2008 16:41:17 +0200, Michael Schmarck wrote: > >> Can you elaborate more on the latter, please? What exactly is rsync > >> relying on and which fs wouldn't meet the requirements. > > > > FAT on an external drive, > > Why not put ext* or reiserfs or whatever on such a drive? B

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 7 May 2008 15:39:03 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Disadvantage: An experimental filesystem is not the best place to keep > > important backups :( > > and the fuse-stuff is not experimental? Yes it is, which is why I decided not to use it after reading the web sites. -- Neil

[gentoo-user] Re: Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-07 Thread Michael Schmarck
Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 7 May 2008 09:57:02 +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > >> > rsync is good, but has its own disadvantages, notably the lack of >> > compression and the reliance on the destination filesystem to preserve >> > permissions. >> >> Can you elaborate more

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch, 7. Mai 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 7 May 2008 13:30:40 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > or you can try reiser4 with either gzip or lzo. > > Advantage: it does not try to compress incompressible files... > > Disadvantage: An experimental filesystem is not the best place t

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Looking for SATA controller recommendation

2008-05-07 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Roy Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Howdy, > > I'm looking to add three more drives to my system for a software RAID5 > media volume. I've used all my motherboard SATA ports so need a SATA > controller. I don't want a hardware RAID controller (been there, burn

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 7 May 2008 13:30:40 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > or you can try reiser4 with either gzip or lzo. > Advantage: it does not try to compress incompressible files... Disadvantage: An experimental filesystem is not the best place to keep important backups :( -- Neil Bothwick Failur

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch, 7. Mai 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 7 May 2008 11:34:35 +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > > > What is that? I was looking for such a beast a while ago, but could > > > only find read-only filesystems with compression, like squashfs. > > > > http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.p

Re: [gentoo-user] Is the mailing list working?

2008-05-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 07 May 2008 04:39:15 -0500, Dale wrote: > Pardon the noise but could someone reply to let me know it's still > working? Last message I got was on the 22 of last month. We're all at the party, didn't you get your invitation? -- Neil Bothwick Become a gynaecologist, look up a friend t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 7 May 2008 11:34:35 +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > > What is that? I was looking for such a beast a while ago, but could > > only find read-only filesystems with compression, like squashfs. > > http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/CompressedFileSystems A couple of those look inte

[gentoo-user] Re: grub weirdness

2008-05-07 Thread Sven Köhler
To avoid automounting and autoinstalling with /boot, just export the DONT_MOUNT_BOOT variable. Which /boot partition? I don't have any ... If there's a setup-command in your grub.conf, it is indeed executed. So if that command is outdated (something you won't notice, since that command is no

Re: [gentoo-user] What version of netscape-flash to use with konqueror?

2008-05-07 Thread Liviu Andronic
On 5/5/08, Robin Atwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have just brought my laptop (x86 arch) up to date and so I have KDE 3.5.9 > and netscape-flash-9.0.124.0. Now whenever I go to a web page with embedded > flash I get a segfault. I seem to remember that something got broken wrt > konqueror a

Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] to which package scrbook.cls belongs?

2008-05-07 Thread Liviu Andronic
On 5/7/08, Zhang Weiwu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ian Hilt wrote: > > On Tue, 6 May 2008, Zhang Weiwu wrote: > > > >> I need to install a package containing this file. to which package this > >> file belongs to? I googled around without luck > > > > "equery b scrbook.cls" returns > > dev-

Re: [gentoo-user] Is the mailing list working?

2008-05-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 07 May 2008, Dale wrote: > Hi folks, > > I checked gentoo.org and even a quick search on the forums but didn't > see anything about a massive boo boo. Just trying to see what is up > here. > > Pardon the noise but could someone reply to let me know it's still > working? Last message

Re: [gentoo-user] What version of netscape-flash to use with konqueror?

2008-05-07 Thread Robin Atwood
On Wednesday 07 May 2008, Mike Williams wrote: > On Monday 05 May 2008 18:04:42 Robin Atwood wrote: > > I have just brought my laptop (x86 arch) up to date and so I have KDE > > 3.5.9 and netscape-flash-9.0.124.0. Now whenever I go to a web page with > > embedded flash I get a segfault. I seem to r

[gentoo-user] Is the mailing list working?

2008-05-07 Thread Dale
Hi folks, I checked gentoo.org and even a quick search on the forums but didn't see anything about a massive boo boo. Just trying to see what is up here. Pardon the noise but could someone reply to let me know it's still working? Last message I got was on the 22 of last month. Thanks Dal

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-07 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch, 7. Mai 2008 schrieb ext Neil Bothwick: > On Wed, 7 May 2008 09:57:02 +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > > > rsync is good, but has its own disadvantages, notably the lack of > > > compression and the reliance on the destination filesystem to > > > preserve permissions. > > > > Can you elab

Re: [gentoo-user] grub weirdness

2008-05-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 6 May 2008 20:24:34 -0400 (EDT), Ian Hilt wrote: > 7. GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB ... Did anyone else find themselves singing this to the tune of the Monty Python spam song ;-) -- Neil Bothwick Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine. signature.asc Description: PGP signatu

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 7 May 2008 09:57:02 +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > > rsync is good, but has its own disadvantages, notably the lack of > > compression and the reliance on the destination filesystem to preserve > > permissions. > > Can you elaborate more on the latter, please? What exactly is rsync > re

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-07 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch, 7. Mai 2008 schrieb ext Neil Bothwick: > rsync is good, but has its own disadvantages, notably the lack of > compression and the reliance on the destination filesystem to preserve > permissions. Can you elaborate more on the latter, please? What exactly is rsync relying on and which

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Which openoffice

2008-05-07 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 7 May 2008, 09:38, Neil Bothwick wrote: > I never awk, although I am often accused of gawking :) Ah yes, we all use GNU awk. (ok, better stop this here :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Which openoffice

2008-05-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 7 May 2008 08:53:55 +0200, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: > LOL! That went unnoticed, sorry. It should have been "As Neil awk", of > course :-) I never awk, although I am often accused of gawking :) -- Neil Bothwick Oops. My brain just hit a bad sector. signature.asc Description: PGP signatu

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 07 May 2008 08:09:57 +0200, Michael Schmarck wrote: > But if a backup to disk is done, tar is still a good tool for the job, > but IMO not the best tool available. Instead I'd suggest to use rsync. > Reason: It's easier to restore just a single file. rsync is good, but has its own disadva

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch, 7. Mai 2008, Michael Schmarck wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is nothing wrong with tar. In fact tar is great for this job. dd > > not. > > Depends. If you backup to tape, like you do, then the Tape Archiver > commonly called "tar" is the tool to use.