On 06/30/2010 02:52 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
aka the dark underside of source-based systems :-)
Anyone who uses gentoo had better get an erotic thrill out of filing
bug reports, or better yet, a patch that makes into portage, or more
erotic still, a patch that makes it into upstream.
I'm now
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 06:52:09PM -0400, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
> I don't know if this is the proper list to post this request to. I've
> been using linux for a dozen years, and am capable of reading and
> following instructions. But, after a lot of dicking around, I still
> haven't been
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:52:13PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> I remember now what I eventually did to fix all my libpng problems back then:
>
> unmerge libpng
> delete everything left with libpng in it's name
> emerge -pvuND world just to see what was now busted
> same with revdep-rebuild
> re-
On Wednesday 30 June 2010 16:01:21 James wrote:
> caveat emptor...
That's not a very helpful comment on this list, where we all try to help
one another.
--
Rgds
Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.
Grant wrote:Grant wrote:
>> I need to install the google-api-adwords-perl library, and it requires
>> that SOAP-WSDL is patched with the soap_wsdl_patches.pl perl script.
>> Can I have SOAP-WSDL patched via the perl script in an ebuild?
>>
>> - Grant
>>
> Here is the perl script:
>
> http://pasteb
On Wednesday 30 June 2010 17:18:48 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> Normal people believe that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Engineers
> believe that if it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet."
No, that's only software engineers. Real engineers would have no truck
with it.
--
Rgds
Peter.
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:52:09 -0400, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
> There are quite a few machines without CD drives being sold today, but
> none that I'm aware of that won't boot from a USB stick. I believe that
> USB-stick images, rather than CD images, should be the default
> distributed boot
Firefox got upgraded from 3.6.3 to 3.6.4 yesterday, and now the flash
plugin won't work. I tried both "x86" and "~x86" versions, and both
crash 100% of the time.
Never had a problem with Flash before this.
Is there a version of flash player that works with FF 3.6.4?
--
Grant
On Wednesday 30 June 2010 22:30:27 Bill Longman wrote:
> If you're really paranoid, you'll recompile all libpng's
> dependencies
No, that's not Really paranoid; Really paranoid is embarking on an
emerge -e world. And a lot of people have done just that.
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Rgds
Peter. Linux Counte
use UNetbootin (http://unetbootin.sf.net) to create a bootable USB stick.
I don't know if this is the proper list to post this request to. I've
been using linux for a dozen years, and am capable of reading and
following instructions. But, after a lot of dicking around, I still
haven't been able to modify a CD boot image get Gentoo to boot from a
USB stick. For my ne
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 23:52:13 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> This is called the "throw shit at the wall and hope some of it sticks"
> method of updating systems. By happy good fortune, it worked out for me.
I posted a script/one-liner I used to fix this at the time it hit stable,
which fixed the pr
On Thursday 01 July 2010 00:15:34 Mick wrote:
> > I remember now what I eventually did to fix all my libpng problems back
> >
> > then:
> >
> >
> > unmerge libpng
> > delete everything left with libpng in it's name
> > emerge -pvuND world just to see what was now busted
> > same with revdep-rebuil
On 07/01/10 00:30, Paul Hartman wrote:
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Beau Henderson wrote:
On 06/30/10 08:07, Paul Hartman wrote:
2010/6/29 Hasan SAHIN:
Hello all,
I am using Athlon64 X2 processor with the
CFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" option.
Can I use the -march=n
On Wednesday 30 June 2010 22:52:13 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Wednesday 30 June 2010 23:17:28 Mick wrote:
> > On Tuesday 29 June 2010 22:56:56 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > Seems like the horrendous screw-up that was the libpng-1.4 update never
> > > got fixed properly and is hitting stable users now.
On 01/07/10 00:52, Crístian Viana wrote:
>> What do you mean by "reducing to one source tree"?
>>
>
> inside /usr/src, there may be more than one subdirectory, one for each
> kernel version you've ever had. you can purge the older kernel directories,
> just "rm -rf" on them. do not delete your
On Wednesday 30 June 2010 23:17:28 Mick wrote:
> On Tuesday 29 June 2010 22:56:56 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > Seems like the horrendous screw-up that was the libpng-1.4 update never
> > got fixed properly and is hitting stable users now.
> >
> > Flameeyes, in his usual in-your-face style, has documen
On 06/30/2010 02:17 PM, Mick wrote:
> On Tuesday 29 June 2010 22:56:56 Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> Seems like the horrendous screw-up that was the libpng-1.4 update never got
>> fixed properly and is hitting stable users now.
>>
>> Flameeyes, in his usual in-your-face style, has documented what needs t
On Tuesday 29 June 2010 22:56:56 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Seems like the horrendous screw-up that was the libpng-1.4 update never got
> fixed properly and is hitting stable users now.
>
> Flameeyes, in his usual in-your-face style, has documented what needs to be
> done:
>
> http://blog.flameeyes.e
On 06/30/2010 10:57 AM, Florian Philipp wrote:
>> What do you mean here, Florian? The Atom can do either 32 or 64 bits. I
>> don't understand what you mean by "partly i686".
>>
>
> Quick lookup on Wikipedia for Intel64 instruction set support:
>
> Atom Z6xx "Lincroft" aka "Moorestown": no support
> I need to install the google-api-adwords-perl library, and it requires
> that SOAP-WSDL is patched with the soap_wsdl_patches.pl perl script.
> Can I have SOAP-WSDL patched via the perl script in an ebuild?
>
> - Grant
Here is the perl script:
http://pastebin.com/YM3G5sKn
Can anyone with perl
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Florian Philipp
wrote:
> Am 30.06.2010 18:25, schrieb Paul Hartman:
>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:38 AM, James wrote:
>>> hello,
>>>
>>> Well, there are lots of local sales on laptops.
>>> It's been a few years and much has changed (that I'm not up on
>>> with bo
Am 30.06.2010 19:26, schrieb Bill Longman:
> On 06/30/2010 09:44 AM, Florian Philipp wrote:
>> You forget about Intel Atoms which are still partly i686 flavored. Of
>> course, this point is mostly mood because these systems don't usually
>> come with an optical drive.
>
> What do you mean here, Fl
On 06/30/2010 09:44 AM, Florian Philipp wrote:
> You forget about Intel Atoms which are still partly i686 flavored. Of
> course, this point is mostly mood because these systems don't usually
> come with an optical drive.
What do you mean here, Florian? The Atom can do either 32 or 64 bits. I
don't
Paul Hartman gmail.com> writes:
> Download the amd64 gentoo 10.1 LiveDVD from:
> http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml
I'm going to burn 10.1 and some other
linux distros and go shoppin
thx,
James
Am 30.06.2010 18:25, schrieb Paul Hartman:
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:38 AM, James wrote:
>> hello,
>>
>> Well, there are lots of local sales on laptops.
>> It's been a few years and much has changed (that I'm not up on
>> with boot CDs). Naturally, I'd like gentoo/kde on a boot
>> cd, but then
On 6/30/10, Shoka wrote:
> Hello group,
>
> I'm trying to build kind of a minimal gentoo setup with X support. All I
> need is
>
> - X11 and a Window Manager
> - Mozilla Firefox
> - Lighttpd
>
> I use Gnome at this time.
>
> du reports the following directories as the biggest directories on my
> s
On 06/30/2010 09:20 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:17:00 -0700, Bill Longman wrote:
>
>> I agree with Grant and others. XFCE is the other WM on my machines. On
>> my old PIII with 256MB RAM, it's really the only option. KDE for the
>> ones with the power, but that's far from "li
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:38 AM, James wrote:
> hello,
>
> Well, there are lots of local sales on laptops.
> It's been a few years and much has changed (that I'm not up on
> with boot CDs). Naturally, I'd like gentoo/kde on a boot
> cd, but then there are different images for AMD and intel arches
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:17:00 -0700, Bill Longman wrote:
> I agree with Grant and others. XFCE is the other WM on my machines. On
> my old PIII with 256MB RAM, it's really the only option. KDE for the
> ones with the power, but that's far from "light".
I really like LXDE now, I use it on my netboo
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:05:30 -0700, Kyle Bader wrote:
> > I'd certainly argue that. A single set of sources can take up more
> > than half a gigabyte after compilation. If you use make install to
> > install the kernel, it puts a backup of the config in /boot
> > automatically.
>
> It is also g
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:54:20 -0500, Dale wrote:
Since space is a issue for you, you really only need the kernel sources
for the kernel you are using. One could argue that if you have a well
built kernel and don't plan to change it in the future, you could
remove its so
On 06/30/2010 08:03 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2010-06-30, Shoka wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to build kind of a minimal gentoo setup with X support. All I
>> need is
>>
>> - X11 and a Window Manager
>> - Mozilla Firefox
>> - Lighttpd
>>
>> I use Gnome at this time.
>
> Gnome?!?!
>
> That's like s
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Kyle Bader wrote:
>>> Since space is a issue for you, you really only need the kernel sources
>>> for the kernel you are using. One could argue that if you have a well
>>> built kernel and don't plan to change it in the future, you could
>>> remove its sources too
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Shoka wrote:
> On 30.06.2010 15:56, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>>
>> /usr/src could be reduced to one source tree.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Mark
>>
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> Unfortunately I don't fully understand. What do you mean by "reducing to
> one source tree"?
>
> Regards
> andré
>
>
>> Since space is a issue for you, you really only need the kernel sources
>> for the kernel you are using. One could argue that if you have a well
>> built kernel and don't plan to change it in the future, you could
>> remove its sources too. I would save a copy of the config tho.
>
> I'd certai
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:03:27 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
> Gnome?!?!
>
> That's like saying "all I needed was a couple of deck chairs, so I
> bought the Queen Mary".
PMSL :)
--
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All things in moderation, ESPECIALLY moderation.
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On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:54:20 -0500, Dale wrote:
> Since space is a issue for you, you really only need the kernel sources
> for the kernel you are using. One could argue that if you have a well
> built kernel and don't plan to change it in the future, you could
> remove its sources too. I woul
hello,
Well, there are lots of local sales on laptops.
It's been a few years and much has changed (that I'm not up on
with boot CDs). Naturally, I'd like gentoo/kde on a boot
cd, but then there are different images for AMD and intel arches.
So my questions are, is there just one CD I need to burn
On 30.06.2010 17:03, Grant Edwards wrote:
>
> Gnome?!?!
>
> That's like saying "all I needed was a couple of deck chairs, so I
> bought the Queen Mary".
>
> One step towards smaller/lighter would be the XFCE desktop instead of
> Gnome. While a lot smaller/faster than Gnuome, XFCE is still far
On 2010-06-30, Shoka wrote:
> I'm trying to build kind of a minimal gentoo setup with X support. All I
> need is
>
> - X11 and a Window Manager
> - Mozilla Firefox
> - Lighttpd
>
> I use Gnome at this time.
Gnome?!?!
That's like saying "all I needed was a couple of deck chairs, so I
bought the
Shoka gmx.ch> writes:
> I'm trying to build kind of a minimal gentoo setup with X support. All I
> need is
> - X11 and a Window Manager
> - Mozilla Firefox
> - Lighttpd
If I were you, I'd pose this question over at embedded-gentoo, if you really
want to get serious about minimization. Gentoo-us
Shoka wrote:
On 30.06.2010 15:56, Mark Knecht wrote:
/usr/src could be reduced to one source tree.
HTH,
Mark
Hi Mark,
Unfortunately I don't fully understand. What do you mean by "reducing to
one source tree"?
Regards
andré
If you have more than one kernel source installed,
>
> What do you mean by "reducing to one source tree"?
inside /usr/src, there may be more than one subdirectory, one for each
kernel version you've ever had. you can purge the older kernel directories,
just "rm -rf" on them. do not delete your current kernel directory: use
"eselect kernel list" (
On 30.06.2010 15:56, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
> /usr/src could be reduced to one source tree.
>
> HTH,
> Mark
>
Hi Mark,
Unfortunately I don't fully understand. What do you mean by "reducing to
one source tree"?
Regards
andré
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Beau Henderson wrote:
> On 06/30/10 08:07, Paul Hartman wrote:
>>
>> 2010/6/29 Hasan SAHIN:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I am using Athlon64 X2 processor with the
>>> CFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" option.
>>>
>>> Can I use the -march=native option
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Albert Hopkins wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 11:09 +1000, Beau Henderson wrote:
>> On 06/30/10 08:07, Paul Hartman wrote:
> [...]
>> > You can see which options -march=native would use by running this command:
>> >
>> > gcc -Q --help=target -march=native
>> >
>>
On 06/30/10 06:48, Shoka wrote:
> Hello group,
>
> I'm trying to build kind of a minimal gentoo setup with X support. All I
> need is
>
> - X11 and a Window Manager
> - Mozilla Firefox
> - Lighttpd
>
> I use Gnome at this time.
>
> du reports the following directories as the biggest directories on
On 30 June 2010 14:48, Shoka wrote:
> Hello group,
>
> I'm trying to build kind of a minimal gentoo setup with X support. All I
> need is
>
> - X11 and a Window Manager
> - Mozilla Firefox
> - Lighttpd
>
> I use Gnome at this time.
Both Gnome and KDE are not for lightweight systems. You may want
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:48 AM, Shoka wrote:
> Hello group,
>
> I'm trying to build kind of a minimal gentoo setup with X support. All I
> need is
>
> - X11 and a Window Manager
> - Mozilla Firefox
> - Lighttpd
>
> I use Gnome at this time.
>
> du reports the following directories as the biggest
Hello group,
I'm trying to build kind of a minimal gentoo setup with X support. All I
need is
- X11 and a Window Manager
- Mozilla Firefox
- Lighttpd
I use Gnome at this time.
du reports the following directories as the biggest directories on my
system:
/usr/lib418 MB
/usr/portage 12
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Wednesday 30 June 2010 02:16:36 Willie Wong wrote:
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:56:56PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
He has this uncanny ability of almost
always being correct on technical toolchain matters
I disagree with the uncanny part. This is flamee
On Wednesday 30 June 2010 02:16:36 Willie Wong wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:56:56PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > He has this uncanny ability of almost
> > always being correct on technical toolchain matters
>
> I disagree with the uncanny part. This is flameeyes we are talking
> about. I
Neil Bothwick writes:
> On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 01:16:44 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote:
> > I did not want to use Chromium, but I tried it, and I must admit,
> > it's fast, and it uses much less memory than konqueror. And it even
> > has web shortcuts, which are a must-have for me now. What I'm
> > missi
On Wednesday 30 June 2010 11:17:13 Mick wrote:
> Starting Kmail as a stand alone app (instead of starting up the whole
> KDE desktop) launches/usr/bin/akonadi_control, which runs
> akonadiserver, which calls /usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder and
> this calls /usr/bin/nepomukserver (or somet
On 30 June 2010 10:30, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Wednesday 30 June 2010 07:23:06 Mick wrote:
>
>> So I assume that Kontact (and or Kmail) starts nepomuke when launched
>
> Kmail-4.4.4 does start nepomuk here, which occasionally fails with some
> problem with mysql errors. Restarting kmail has alw
On Wednesday 30 June 2010 07:23:06 Mick wrote:
> So I assume that Kontact (and or Kmail) starts nepomuke when launched
Kmail-4.4.4 does start nepomuk here, which occasionally fails with some
problem with mysql errors. Restarting kmail has always fixed it so far.
--
Rgds
Peter. Linux C
> 1. On boot up, the screen goes completely black until the xserver is
> started.
KMS provides its own framebuffer console driver -- disable any other
framebuffer drivers such as (u)vesafb and enable
FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_DETECT_PRIMARY under drivers/graphics
support/console display driver support.
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