Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: advice sought on new laptop for Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:42 on Monday 06 September 2010, Grant Edwards did opine thusly: Yup, and 16x9 sucks -- it's just an excuse to ship smaller, lower-resolution displays labelled with bigger numbers. Complete ripoff. If you have 16:9 at 1280*720, then yes, it is

[gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-06 Thread alain . didierjean
For some unknown reason, my DVD r/w device is not detected as such by udev: I can mount /dev/hda and read a data CD, but /dev/cdrom is not created at boot time and k3b returns No optical drive found. K3b did not find any optical device in your system. Solution : Make sure HAL daemon is running,

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-06 Thread Jake Moe
On 09/06/10 18:55, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: For some unknown reason, my DVD r/w device is not detected as such by udev: I can mount /dev/hda and read a data CD, but /dev/cdrom is not created at boot time and k3b returns No optical drive found. K3b did not find any optical device in

Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED: problem with PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILURI

2010-09-06 Thread Stroller
On 5 Sep 2010, at 17:54, David Relson wrote: ... I've got it without that, Portage 2.1.8.3. $ grep ELOG /etc/make.conf PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES=warn error log PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM=save mail PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILURI=root PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILFROM=port...@hex $ Works fine here. I assumed he would also

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to configure alsa for INTEL HDA (ATI)

2010-09-06 Thread Nils Larsson
I did an alsaconf- and update-modules-reboot-cycle, but the only thing I get with alsamixer are four bars: master,pcm,capture,digital Seems a little too less for high definit audio, or ? But what is you're missing? S/DPIF? Headphone? Front?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: advice sought on new laptop for Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Stroller
On 5 Sep 2010, at 23:04, Allan Gottlieb wrote: ... With square pixels 16x9 is 1920x1080 (so called full HD is 1080p). This is my laptop's display. My big (30) monitor is 16x10 (2560x1600) and is a joy to use. I prefer the current wide aspect ratio better then the previous 4x3 standard.

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-06 Thread Stroller
On 6 Sep 2010, at 09:55, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: For some unknown reason, my DVD r/w device is not detected as such by udev: I can mount /dev/hda and read a data CD, ... Current kernels usually call optical drives /dev/sr0 (/dev/sr1, c). See last months DVD borked: SysFS removed

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to configure alsa for INTEL HDA (ATI)

2010-09-06 Thread Nils Larsson
I did an alsaconf- and update-modules-reboot-cycle, but the only thing I get with alsamixer are four bars: master,pcm,capture,digital Seems a little too less for high definit audio, or ? But what is you're missing? S/DPIF? Headphone? Front?

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: For some unknown reason, my DVD r/w device is not detected as such by udev: I can mount /dev/hda and read a data CD, but /dev/cdrom is not created at boot time and k3b returns No optical drive found. K3b did not find any optical device in your system.

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to configure alsa for INTEL HDA (ATI)

2010-09-06 Thread Nils Larsson
I did an alsaconf- and update-modules-reboot-cycle, but the only thing I get with alsamixer are four bars: master,pcm,capture,digital Seems a little too less for high definit audio, or ? But what is you're missing? S/DPIF? Headphone? Front?

Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks migrating from KDE 4.4.3 to 4.5.1

2010-09-06 Thread Alex Schuster
I wrote: So far, I see no difference from 4.5.0. Nepomuk crashed two times while indexing stuff. I rebuilt it with debug flags, but could not reproduce the bug yet. But 4.5.1 just got masked, so better wait a while until trying to do the upgrade. Wonko

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to configure alsa for INTEL HDA (ATI)

2010-09-06 Thread Nils Larsson
I did an alsaconf- and update-modules-reboot-cycle, but the only thing I get with alsamixer are four bars: master,pcm,capture,digital Seems a little too less for high definit audio, or ? But what is you're missing? S/DPIF? Headphone? Front?

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to configure alsa for INTEL HDA (ATI)

2010-09-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 14:33 on Monday 06 September 2010, Nils Larsson did opine thusly: I did an alsaconf- and update-modules-reboot-cycle, but the only thing I get with alsamixer are four bars: master,pcm,capture,digital Seems a little too less for high definit audio, or ?

Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED: problem with PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILURI

2010-09-06 Thread David Relson
On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:32:16 +0100 Stroller wrote: On 5 Sep 2010, at 17:54, David Relson wrote: ... I've got it without that, Portage 2.1.8.3. $ grep ELOG /etc/make.conf PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES=warn error log PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM=save mail PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILURI=root

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-06 Thread alain . didierjean
Selon Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk: On 6 Sep 2010, at 09:55, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: For some unknown reason, my DVD r/w device is not detected as such by udev: I can mount /dev/hda and read a data CD, ... Current kernels usually call optical drives /dev/sr0

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-06 Thread alain . didierjean
Selon Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk: On 6 Sep 2010, at 09:55, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: For some unknown reason, my DVD r/w device is not detected as such by udev: I can mount /dev/hda and read a data CD, ... Current kernels usually call optical drives /dev/sr0

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-06 Thread alain . didierjean
Selon Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk: On 6 Sep 2010, at 09:55, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: For some unknown reason, my DVD r/w device is not detected as such by udev: I can mount /dev/hda and read a data CD, ... Current kernels usually call optical drives /dev/sr0

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-06 Thread alain . didierjean
Selon alain.didierj...@free.fr: Selon Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk: On 6 Sep 2010, at 09:55, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: For some unknown reason, my DVD r/w device is not detected as such by udev: I can mount /dev/hda and read a data CD, ... Current kernels

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to configure alsa for INTEL HDA (ATI)

2010-09-06 Thread meino . cramer
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com [10-09-06 17:10]: Apparently, though unproven, at 14:33 on Monday 06 September 2010, Nils Larsson did opine thusly: I did an alsaconf- and update-modules-reboot-cycle, but the only thing I get with alsamixer are four bars:

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: advice sought on new laptop for Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-09-06, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, there is an inherent problem: in order to get what I consider acceptable vertical size/resolution you have to buy something that's rediculously wide. Untrue. Vertical resolution depends only on the available dimension and the

[gentoo-user] Gentoo 32bit-64bit: How?

2010-09-06 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, My box is a working and fully configured Gentoo system, which is uptodate. For the sake of being able to address more RAM and for more calculation power (mainly for rendering purposes) I want to migrate to 64bit. I googled for some tutorial but found nothing appropiate (one post asked for

[gentoo-user] virt-manager: Warning: KVM is not available

2010-09-06 Thread Alexander Tiurin
Hi! I start virt-manager-0.8.5, create a new virtual machine and get a message Warning: KVM is not available Why? Thanks. Some details: lsmod | grep kvm kvm_intel 35560 0 kvm 207681 1 kvm_intel getfacl /dev/kvm getfacl: Removing leading '/' from

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo 32bit-64bit: How?

2010-09-06 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 06.09.2010 19:27, schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de: Hi, My box is a working and fully configured Gentoo system, which is uptodate. For the sake of being able to address more RAM and for more calculation power (mainly for rendering purposes) I want to migrate to 64bit. I googled for some

[gentoo-user] Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Al
Hello, I looked into many ebuilds, but didn't come to a final conclusion yet. I am rather confused. How does a program in Gentoo know, where to look for shared libraries? Is this compiled into the programes by means of rpath? Does Gentoo set up a general search path for libraries? Does this

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo 32bit-64bit: How?

2010-09-06 Thread Norman Rieß
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 06.09.2010 19:27, schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de: Hi, My questions are: 1) Is there a performance gain, when migrating to 64bit if the target applications supports 64bit? 2) Is it possible - if( true ){ how(); } - to simply convert a

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo 32bit-64bit: How?

2010-09-06 Thread Jason Carson
Check out this, it should answer most of your questions... http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-amd64-faq.xml#perfup Hi, My box is a working and fully configured Gentoo system, which is uptodate. For the sake of being able to address more RAM and for more calculation power (mainly for

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo 32bit-64bit: How?

2010-09-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 10:27 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, My box is a working and fully configured Gentoo system, which is uptodate. For the sake of being able to address more RAM and for more calculation power (mainly for rendering purposes) I want to migrate to 64bit. I googled

[gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-06 Thread Al
Hi, being comparingly new to Gentoo I still wounder why the classical heart of every open source community is missing, a public news server. At least a news server is not offically announced on http://www.gentoo.org/ like forums, IRC and mailinglists. (I can read some, not all of the lists via

[gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/06/2010 09:28 PM, Al wrote: Hello, I looked into many ebuilds, but didn't come to a final conclusion yet. I am rather confused. How does a program in Gentoo know, where to look for shared libraries? The program doesn't know. But the runtime linker does. And those paths are in

Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird and IMAP folders

2010-09-06 Thread kashani
On 9/2/2010 12:43 PM, Jim Cunning wrote: On 09/01/2010 10:44 AM, Andrea Conti wrote: Hi, I routinely use thunderbird to access mail on a cyrus IMAP server with very large folders (thousands of archived messages). IMAP support in the 3.1 series seems quite stable to me (whereas 2.x had

Re: [gentoo-user] How to fix circular dependency?

2010-09-06 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Sun, 5 Sep 2010, Dale wrote: Try this: emerge -1av =*glibc*-2.10.1-r1 # emerge -1av =*glibc*-2.10.1-r1 * IMPORTANT: 1 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'. * Use eselect news to read news items. These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating

Re: [gentoo-user] How to fix circular dependency?

2010-09-06 Thread Alex Schuster
Ajai Khattri writes: On Sun, 5 Sep 2010, Dale wrote: Try this: emerge -1av =*glibc*-2.10.1-r1 # emerge -1av =*glibc*-2.10.1-r1 * IMPORTANT: 1 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'. * Use eselect news to read news items. These are the packages that would be

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Al
How does a program in Gentoo know, where to look for shared libraries? The program doesn't know.  But the runtime linker does.  And those paths are in /etc/ld.so.conf.  This file gets updated automatically by portage when needed. But... sometimes the program also knows and can link against

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Al
Also I installed a few libries with Prefix Gentoo on Cygwin. On Cygwin there is no /etc/ld.so.conf. Yet the libraries are found somehow. I still have to find out how it works in that environment. Ah! Your manpage answers this question: The directories /lib and /usr/lib are searched as last

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Monday 06 September 2010, Al wrote: Hi, being comparingly new to Gentoo I still wounder why the classical heart of every open source community is missing, a public news server. At least a news server is not offically announced on http://www.gentoo.org/ like forums, IRC and mailinglists.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: advice sought on new laptop for Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Mick
On Monday 06 September 2010 17:24:45 Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-09-06, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, there is an inherent problem: in order to get what I consider acceptable vertical size/resolution you have to buy something that's rediculously wide. Untrue.

[gentoo-user] [OT] ProFTPd problem with anonymous access

2010-09-06 Thread Jake Moe
Hello all, I'm hoping someone on the list can help me out with a problem I'm having (or at least point me in the direction of a RTFM). I've got my laptop set up as a local rsync and source mirror for a PC at work and another laptop at home. The laptop has /usr/portage shared anonymously, so

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to configure alsa for INTEL HDA (ATI)

2010-09-06 Thread Jake Moe
On 07/09/10 01:44, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com [10-09-06 17:10]: Apparently, though unproven, at 14:33 on Monday 06 September 2010, Nils Larsson did opine thusly: I did an alsaconf- and update-modules-reboot-cycle, but the only thing I get with

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-06 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: wtf are you talking about? and who is using news anyway? I was trying to figure this out myself. I thought maybe I was missing something in the message. Maybe not. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-06 Thread Jake Moe
On 07/09/10 06:19, Al wrote: Hi, being comparingly new to Gentoo I still wounder why the classical heart of every open source community is missing, a public news server. At least a news server is not offically announced on http://www.gentoo.org/ like forums, IRC and mailinglists. (I can

[gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread walt
On 09/06/2010 11:28 AM, Al wrote: Hello, I looked into many ebuilds, but didn't come to a final conclusion yet. I am rather confused. Welcome ;) How does a program in Gentoo know, where to look for shared libraries? Try running ldconfig -p, which relates to Nikos's comment about

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: advice sought on new laptop for Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Allan Gottlieb
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com writes: For a given height, a 16:9 display is 30% wider. I want nice tall display (prefereably at least 9-10) without having to increase the width beyond what a standard laptop style keyboard takes up (about 12-13 inches). It is certainly true that,

[gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/07/2010 12:24 AM, Al wrote: How does a program in Gentoo know, where to look for shared libraries? The program doesn't know. But the runtime linker does. And those paths are in /etc/ld.so.conf. This file gets updated automatically by portage when needed. But... sometimes the program

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-06 Thread covici
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: wtf are you talking about? and who is using news anyway? I was trying to figure this out myself. I thought maybe I was missing something in the message. Maybe not. Isn't the list aggregated into that news site

Re: [gentoo-user] How to fix circular dependency?

2010-09-06 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Mon, 6 Sep 2010, Alex Schuster wrote: What Dale meant is to try installling sys-libs/glibc-2.10.1-r1. I have not checked the depencencies, but the idea is that this version of glibc does not depend on the new gcc, which would pull in the new glibc. So try this: emerge -1a

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-06 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 08:42:40 +1000 Jake Moe jakesaddr...@gmail.com wrote: Everyone's got their preference; some like mailing lists and come here. Others like forums and go there. Still others prefer IRC. Also, a quick Google search of gentoo newsgroup showed me alt.os.linux.gentoo, and

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-06 Thread Al
Jake it is a pity when well working systems are replaced by systems that are less good. But the high cultures of the ancient world also have been replaced by dark medieval times and italien restaurants are beeing replaced by burger burners (here in Europe). Why say that lists are dead early?  

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-06 Thread Al
I was trying to figure this out myself.  I thought maybe I was missing something in the message.  Maybe not. Isn't the list aggregated into that news site gmain or whatever its called? Then he can have it as a newsgroup. It's not the question how I read it, but a question how a majority of

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-06 Thread David W Noon
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 02:10:02 +0200, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: wtf are you talking about? and who is using news anyway? I was trying to figure this out

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Al
Are you coming from a BSD background?  I know NetBSD uses rpath everywhere, and they don't use the ld.so.conf mechanism at all, but I can't recall if the others do or don't. No, I am comming from a Debian/Ubuntu background where it simply worked. Now I try to port Gentoo to Cygwin and it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Al
Now I was woundering, which way would Gentoo choose or if that is not package specific at all. Are you sure dlopen() is used as a general approach on Gentoo? Gentoo doesn't choose anything; it's up to the programs to decide how they want to load libraries at runtime.  It's like asking

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-06 Thread Jake Moe
On 07/09/10 09:55, Al wrote: Jake it is a pity when well working systems are replaced by systems that are less good. But the high cultures of the ancient world also have been replaced by dark medieval times and italien restaurants are beeing replaced by burger burners (here in Europe) Why

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: advice sought on new laptop for Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-09-06, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com writes: For a given height, a 16:9 display is 30% wider. I want nice tall display (prefereably at least 9-10) without having to increase the width beyond what a standard laptop style keyboard takes

[gentoo-user] Wine complains about Gecko

2010-09-06 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
When I try to launch a Windows program in Wine (1.3.2), an error dialog appears informing me that Gecko is not installed and the program might not work (which it doesn't). It has an install button there, but mentions that it would be better if the distro, Gentoo in this case, would offer it

[gentoo-user] strange network problem

2010-09-06 Thread
Hi ,everybody I've met a strang network problem.My gentoo Netbook can't access google and some other web sites after lying idle about more than half an hour's. But it can acesses other sites normally ,And can pinging ervery sites including google very well! The Only thing i can do

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to configure alsa for INTEL HDA (ATI)

2010-09-06 Thread Adam Carter
Perhaps; 1. Boot with knoppix 2. record lsmod output 3. Boot back into gentoo, go to kernel setup and select any missing modules, them make modules_install, and modprobe the modules (no need to reboot) 4. Try alsa again to see if anything has turned up? FWIW on my laptop; sphinx adam # lspci |

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Al wrote: No, I am comming from a Debian/Ubuntu background where it simply worked. Same mechanism there too - Debian/Ubuntu also use /etc/ld.so.conf and/or /etc/ld.so.conf.d. You dont see it because you only deal with binary packages when updating in Debian/Ubuntu.

Re: [gentoo-user] Wine complains about Gecko

2010-09-06 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: When I try to launch a Windows program in Wine (1.3.2), an error dialog appears informing me that Gecko is not installed and the program might not work (which it doesn't). It has an install button there, but mentions that it would be better if the

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 07 September 2010, Al wrote: I was trying to figure this out myself. I thought maybe I was missing something in the message. Maybe not. Isn't the list aggregated into that news site gmain or whatever its called? Then he can have it as a newsgroup. It's not the question

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-06 Thread kashani
On 9/6/2010 4:55 PM, Al wrote: Well that is the first advantage of a newsreader. It does not spam your mailbox. You select yourself what you want to read by the header. The other contents are never delivered to you, eat up neither traffic nor space. People don't really need to complain of to