On Sep 18, 2011 9:22 AM, "Michael Mol" wrote:
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Dale wrote:
> > Michael Mol wrote:
>
> [snippage]
>
> > Ah. I see now. So, it mounts proc and sys but that is in the init
then
> > it mounts the real root outside the init. Then it umounts the proc and
sys
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Dale wrote:
> Michael Mol wrote:
[snippage]
> Ah. I see now. So, it mounts proc and sys but that is in the init then
> it mounts the real root outside the init. Then it umounts the proc and sys
> under the init and then switches to the real root and start
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 13:27:45 -0700
Mark Knecht wrote:
Then I get confused. I get to Applications and I'm sort of lost
here. In there it talks about copying nano and its friends over to
the init directory. Then below that it says to use busybox. Well,
which is it? Do I
Michael Mol wrote:
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Dale wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
I think there are only a few that has that flag, at least that I would put
in the init thingy anyway. Maybe this is something that the devs will work
on if it can be done. May be a big if there.
That is the gu
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> 2) It comes with (or appears to come with) a Linux-centric (sometimes
>> even a Linux-only) view.
>
> I think you got it wrong. dbus runs in every single Unix, I believe:
> it cert
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Alan McKinnon
> wrote:
>> On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 15:24:39 -0400
>> Michael Mol wrote:
>> Dbus is an interesting piece of technology and rather useful, it does
>> it a disservice to knock it.
>
> Honestly, I real
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 15:24:39 -0400
> Michael Mol wrote:
> Dbus is an interesting piece of technology and rather useful, it does
> it a disservice to knock it.
Honestly, I really only want to provide reasonable criticism. I just
tend to get
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 15:24:39 -0400
Michael Mol wrote:
> > BTW, there *was* an standard that did everything dbus does: ORB, the
> > Object Request Broker. They tried to use that as IPC years ago, but
> > is so damn complicated to implement right they decided to better
> > implement a new standard.
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 13:27:45 -0700
Mark Knecht wrote:
> > Then I get confused. I get to Applications and I'm sort of lost
> > here. In there it talks about copying nano and its friends over to
> > the init directory. Then below that it says to use busybox. Well,
> > which is it? Do I do both
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:
> What is the lowdown on the new Firefox 6 that is currently on auto
> mask in portage. It appears I can set
> `EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--autounmask=n"'
>
> in /etc/make.conf and go right ahead emerging. Any opinions about
> yeah or neigh?
I jus
What is the lowdown on the new Firefox 6 that is currently on auto
mask in portage. It appears I can set
`EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--autounmask=n"'
in /etc/make.conf and go right ahead emerging. Any opinions about
yeah or neigh?
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Dale wrote:
> Mark Knecht wrote:
>>
>> While I was out walking my dog I sort of remembered that there are
>> just a few apps I had to build static, or at least that I build
>> static. One, I think was grub. The first and only time I did it I had
>> to do it 3 or 4
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Dale wrote:
> Mark Knecht wrote:
> I think there are only a few that has that flag, at least that I would put
> in the init thingy anyway. Maybe this is something that the devs will work
> on if it can be done. May be a big if there.
>
> That is the guide I am tr
Mark Knecht wrote:
While I was out walking my dog I sort of remembered that there are
just a few apps I had to build static, or at least that I build
static. One, I think was grub. The first and only time I did it I had
to do it 3 or 4 times before I got everything I needed working
correctly. Thi
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Dale wrote:
> Mark Knecht wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Dale wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Dale wrote:
That's what I was th
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 5:03 PM, pk wrote:
> On 2011-09-17 20:36, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> They are standard in the sense that they are a low level communication
>> standard API. An IPC is *way* more than that; dbus is an IPC, because
>
> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Inte
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Dale wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Dalewrote:
That's what I was thinking to. I know busybox does a LOT of things but I
didn't think it was a nano replace
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Michael Mol wrote:
>>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés >>> I would like for
>>> you to be more specific about them.
>>>
>>
On 2011-09-17 22:54, Mark Knecht wrote:
>> That's what I was thinking to. I know busybox does a LOT of things but I
>> didn't think it was a nano replacement either. OK. I got both of those in
>> there at least. First problem dealt with I guess. Wonder what else I
>> should put in there too.
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Dale wrote:
That's what I was thinking to. I know busybox does a LOT of things but I
didn't think it was a nano replacement either. OK. I got both of those in
there at least. First problem dealt with I guess. Wonder what else I
should pu
On 2011-09-17 20:36, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> They are standard in the sense that they are a low level communication
> standard API. An IPC is *way* more than that; dbus is an IPC, because
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Inter-process_communication
> then you have high level
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Dale wrote:
>> Mark Knecht wrote:
>>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Dale wrote:
>> That's what I was thinking to. I know busybox does a LOT of things but I
>> didn't think it was a nano replacement either.
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Dale wrote:
> Mark Knecht wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Dale wrote:
>>>
>>> OK. Sort of dealt with the LVM part so now to step two. I'm trying to
>>> follow this:
>>>
>>> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Initramfs
>>>
>>> Then I get confused. I ge
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Dale wrote:
> Mark Knecht wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Dale wrote:
> That's what I was thinking to. I know busybox does a LOT of things but I
> didn't think it was a nano replacement either. OK. I got both of those in
> there at least. First prob
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Dale wrote:
OK. Sort of dealt with the LVM part so now to step two. I'm trying to
follow this:
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Initramfs
Then I get confused. I get to Applications and I'm sort of lost here. In
there it talks about copying
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Dale wrote:
> OK. Sort of dealt with the LVM part so now to step two. I'm trying to
> follow this:
>
> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Initramfs
>
> Then I get confused. I get to Applications and I'm sort of lost here. In
> there it talks about copying nano and
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mick wrote:
> On Saturday 17 Sep 2011 09:00:37 Pandu Poluan wrote:
>> On Sep 17, 2011 4:54 AM, "David W Noon" wrote:
>> > On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:49:03 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote about Re:
>> >
>> > [gentoo-user] Any big gotcha's when update from several (5) mnths
OK. Sort of dealt with the LVM part so now to step two. I'm trying to
follow this:
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Initramfs
Then I get confused. I get to Applications and I'm sort of lost here.
In there it talks about copying nano and its friends over to the init
directory. Then below th
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés >>> I would like for
>> you to be more specific about them.
>>
>> Sockets, be they UNIX domain sockets, IPv4 or IPv6.
> [sni
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:45 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
>> On Friday, September 16, 2011 10:53:47 AM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 5:08 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
>>> > On Thursday, September 15, 2011 05:05:0
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés
> wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:45 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> [[snippage]]
>>> I still think Gnome (or any other desktop environment) should not care about
>>> which init-system
On Saturday 17 Sep 2011 09:00:37 Pandu Poluan wrote:
> On Sep 17, 2011 4:54 AM, "David W Noon" wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:49:03 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote about Re:
> >
> > [gentoo-user] Any big gotcha's when update from several (5) mnths:
> > > On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:02:27 -0700, Mark Kne
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> On Friday, September 16, 2011 06:50:14 PM Paul Hartman wrote:
>> Does anyone here use HPLIP and happen to have the file
>> hplip-3.11.7-plugin.run that they can send to me or upload somewhere?
>> openprinting.org is down because of the LF h
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:45 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
[[snippage]]
>> I still think Gnome (or any other desktop environment) should not care about
>> which init-system is being used.
>
> And they will not. They will only use some ca
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 3:04 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> On Saturday, September 17, 2011 08:45:15 AM Joost Roeleveld wrote:
>> On Friday, September 16, 2011 10:53:47 AM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> > I think systemd gives you that in servers. With OpenRC and Apache with
>> > user CGI scripts, ¿d
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:45 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> On Friday, September 16, 2011 10:53:47 AM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 5:08 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
>> > On Thursday, September 15, 2011 05:05:00 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> >> "Last time I checked, neither
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:17:56 +0200
Florian Philipp wrote:
> Hi list!
>
> Since GLSAs are in their current state of disregard, I'm searching for
> another way to be informed about security fixes. What do you think is
> the best approach here?
>
> Querying bugzilla for recently fixed security bug
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 19:14:06 +0800
William Kenworthy wrote:
> I am looking at using a honeypot for a research project - need to put
> something "safe" to attract packets, scans etc. I was thinking of a
> heavily stripped gentoo vm (in virtualbox) running honeyd, but the
> ebuild for honeyd is lo
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 06:44:47 -0500
Dale wrote:
> Should I include the drive itself? Like sda, sdb etc. I could use
> my system name too. I'm on fireball and my older rig is named
> smoker. See a trend here? lol Anyway, this could work:
>
> fireball-sda
> fireball-sdb
> fireball-sdc
That's
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:06:40 -0500
Dale wrote:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:03:20 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> >
> >> In case it helps, here's the relevant part of my fstab:
> >>
> >> /dev/sda1 /boot ext2noatime,noauto 1 2
> >> /dev/md3
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 00:49:21 +0100
Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Friday 16 September 2011 23:13:27 Neil Bothwick wrote:
>
> > A word of advice when starting from scratch, give your VG(s) unique
> > names. I've seen what happens when someone takes a drive from
> > one Fedora system and puts it in an
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 08:45:15 +0200
Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> I consider dbus to be part of the GUI as I don't see a reason for
> apache, syslog, nfs, samba, to be using dbus to communicate with
> each other.
To be fair, dbus could be useful for service apps too. It provides a
standard message
Dale wrote:
William Kenworthy wrote:
On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 19:06 -0500, Dale wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
I did name it pretty well. It is called "test" right now. lol Right
now, I'm just having fun. The biggest difference so far is that I
can see with my new glasses. I just wish I didn't have
William Kenworthy wrote:
On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 19:06 -0500, Dale wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
I did name it pretty well. It is called "test" right now. lol Right
now, I'm just having fun. The biggest difference so far is that I can
see with my new glasses. I just wish I didn't have arthritis in
Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Friday 16 September 2011 17:58:11 Dale wrote:
> Hmm, maybe I am thinking of ext4? Life's confusing. :/
In case it helps, here's the relevant part of my fstab:
/dev/sda1 /boot ext2 noatime,noauto 1 2
/dev/md3 / ext4 noatime 1 1
/dev/vg1/home /home ext4 noatime 1 2
I am looking at using a honeypot for a research project - need to put
something "safe" to attract packets, scans etc. I was thinking of a
heavily stripped gentoo vm (in virtualbox) running honeyd, but the
ebuild for honeyd is looking like its getting quite old - according to
the honeyd website its
Dale writes:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:03:20 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > A word of advice when starting from scratch, give your VG(s) unique
> > names. I've seen what happens when someone takes a drive from
> > one Fedora system and puts it in another, so there are tw
Just upgraded to net-firewall/iptables-1.4.12.1 and shorewall fails to
start with:
Running /sbin/iptables-restore...
iptables-restore v1.4.12.1: conntrack rev 2 does not support port ranges
Error occurred at line: 251
Try `iptables-restore -h' or 'iptables-restore --help' for more
information.
Hi list!
Since GLSAs are in their current state of disregard, I'm searching for
another way to be informed about security fixes. What do you think is
the best approach here?
Querying bugzilla for recently fixed security bugs like [1]?
Searching for the term 'security bug' or something similar in
On Sep 17, 2011 4:54 AM, "David W Noon" wrote:
>
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:49:03 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote about Re:
> [gentoo-user] Any big gotcha's when update from several (5) mnths:
>
> > On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:02:27 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> [snip]
> > > The world of trading is 99% boredom,
Paul Hartman wrote:
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Dale wrote:
Paul Hartman wrote:
Does anyone here use HPLIP and happen to have the file
hplip-3.11.7-plugin.run that they can send to me or upload somewhere?
openprinting.org is down because of the LF hack and it could be more
weeks before it
On Saturday, September 17, 2011 08:45:15 AM Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> On Friday, September 16, 2011 10:53:47 AM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> > I think systemd gives you that in servers. With OpenRC and Apache with
> > user CGI scripts, ¿do you know how to list the httpd daemon spawned
> > processes,
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