28 Róbert Čerňanský wrote:
Am Sonntag, 27. November 2011, 17:04:24 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
I used to use ImageMagick to quickly resize images and convert
from one format to another (jpg to png, for example),
but I'm darned if I can find an executable to run the program.
There used to be
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 12:26:48 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote:
Just in case anyone wonders where the multiplier 1.6 comes from:
There had been a discussion somewhere (I forgot where exactly, sorry)
about load numbers. The final conclusion was that the ideal load number
for today's processors is
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 23:34:14 -0500, Michael Mol wrote:
The problem I found with that is the ebuilds load the system lightly
to start with, before they enter the compile phase, to portage
starts dozens of parallel ebuilds, then the system gets completely
bogged down when they start
Since updating to Openrc 0.9.4 , I'm getting some opaque messages :
(1) When starting eth0 : You are using a bash array for config_eth0.
This feature will be removed in the future. Please see net.example
for the correct format for config_eth0.
(2) When starting D-BUS system messages: Use of the
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 16:27, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 12:26:48 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote:
Just in case anyone wonders where the multiplier 1.6 comes from:
There had been a discussion somewhere (I forgot where exactly, sorry)
about load numbers. The final
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 17:17, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote:
Since updating to Openrc 0.9.4 , I'm getting some opaque messages :
(1) When starting eth0 : You are using a bash array for config_eth0.
This feature will be removed in the future. Please see net.example
for the correct
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 17:29, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
(2) When starting D-BUS system messages: Use of the opts variable
is deprecated will be removed in the future. Please see extra_commands
or extra_started_commands.
I've looked in the obvious places in /etc , but see
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:29:26 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote:
Open /etc/conf.d/net
Compare it with /etc/conf.d/net.example
That file should be removed, the elog message states this. The example
file /usr/share/doc/openrc-0.9.4/net.example.
--
Neil Bothwick
I thought I saw the light at the end
On Nov 28, 2011 5:53 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:29:26 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote:
Open /etc/conf.d/net
Compare it with /etc/conf.d/net.example
That file should be removed, the elog message states this. The example
file
On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 17:04 -0500, Colleen Beamer wrote:
[..]
yes :) It's /usr/bin/convert
This isn't quite what I wanted - you have to add options to the
command. I was hoping to get the graphical interface that I had
before. Please don't tell me they took a great little program and
On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 20:28 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote:
With 100% repeatability, mind you, which does raise same questions on
the amount of testing done before release. Yes, it's ~arch and
rc_parallel is explicitly marked experimental, but it's not expected
to be completely and consistently
Hi there
2011/11/28 Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info:
...
TL;DR : 2*N for non-hyperthreaded cores, N for hyperthreaded cores.
(Disclaimer: Above is my pure speculation. Feel free to debunk it
based on your tests (: )
Rgds,
So with a 6 core Phenom it would look like this:
MAKEOPTS=-j 12 -l
2011/11/28 Jorge Martínez López jorg...@gmail.com:
Hi there
2011/11/28 Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info:
...
TL;DR : 2*N for non-hyperthreaded cores, N for hyperthreaded cores.
(Disclaimer: Above is my pure speculation. Feel free to debunk it
based on your tests (: )
Rgds,
So with a 6
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 16:27, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 23:34:14 -0500, Michael Mol wrote:
The problem I found with that is the ebuilds load the system lightly
to start with, before they enter the compile phase, to portage
starts dozens of parallel
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
Won't file a bug report, though. I have a feeling that my bug report re:
emerge failure will be marked WONTFIX thanks to the 'ricer special' CFLAGS
The CFLAGS you showed me weren't any more ricer than -O2
-march=native. (I
On 11/28/2011 02:29 PM, Albert W. Hopkins wrote:
On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 20:28 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote:
With 100% repeatability, mind you, which does raise same questions on
the amount of testing done before release. Yes, it's ~arch and
rc_parallel is explicitly marked experimental, but it's
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 18:15 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Generally true, but not when something is obviously broken. That
means
not even its upstream dev bothered to test it.
~arch is for we think this works, but please give it a go in case
there
are problems. It's *not* for we have
Am 28.11.2011 10:27, schrieb Neil Bothwick:
From the description, it should do just that, there may still be
dozens of ebuilds in progress, but only the first few will actually
start compiling. Adding it now. It should also helps when there are
multiple emerge processes running, my desktop
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:31:44 -0500
Albert W. Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org wrote:
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 18:15 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Generally true, but not when something is obviously broken. That
means
not even its upstream dev bothered to test it.
~arch is for we think
On Nov 28, 2011 10:38 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
Won't file a bug report, though. I have a feeling that my bug report re:
emerge failure will be marked WONTFIX thanks to the 'ricer special'
CFLAGS
The
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
On Nov 28, 2011 10:38 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
Won't file a bug report, though. I have a feeling that my bug report re:
emerge
Am 28.11.2011 17:15, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:
On 11/28/2011 02:29 PM, Albert W. Hopkins wrote:
On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 20:28 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote:
With 100% repeatability, mind you, which does raise same questions on
the amount of testing done before release. Yes, it's ~arch and
On 2011-11-28, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
Albert W. Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org wrote:
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 18:15 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Generally true, but not when something is obviously broken. That
means not even its upstream dev bothered to test it.
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 18:41 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
My experience is different to both of yours. I too have been using
Gentoo for many years and had good results with unstable. Hardly ever,
if even at all, have I run into packages that would not compile at
Build failures for me have always
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
On Nov 28, 2011 10:38 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
Won't file
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 17:19 +, Grant Edwards wrote:
I don't think that's fair. Perhaps nobody had compiled it using the
exact set of USE flags and the exast set of library versions and
configurations you were using, but I've never seen anything appear in
testing that was so broken it
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
I wonder if someone in this thread will help me understand the term
'ricer'. The only origin I know of this term, from the car world, is
really pretty racist, so I wonder if there isn't a more genteel origin
I simply
Am 28.11.2011 17:54, schrieb Mark Knecht:
I wonder if someone in this thread will help me understand the term
'ricer'. The only origin I know of this term, from the car world, is
really pretty racist, so I wonder if there isn't a more genteel origin
I simply cannot find using Google?
Maybe
On 11/28/2011 02:41 AM, Mike Edenfield wrote:
Since I didn't write it at work it's all yours. :)
Thanks. Posted here:
https://blog.hartwork.org/?p=1516
Best,
Sebastian
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
On Nov 28, 2011 10:38 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
Won't file a bug report, though. I have a feeling that my bug report re:
emerge
On 11/28/2011 9:28 AM, James Wall wrote:
I wonder if someone in this thread will help me understand the term
'ricer'. The only origin I know of this term, from the car world, is
really pretty racist, so I wonder if there isn't a more genteel origin
I simply cannot find using Google?
- Mark
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Paul Hartman
paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
I wonder if someone in this thread will help me understand the term
'ricer'. The only origin I know of this term, from the car world, is
Am 26.11.2011 23:11, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
Am 2011-11-26 22:56, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
Let me get this straight: if I want to somehow stay in the world of
gnome-2.32 (panels, desktop, etc) I could simply avoid masking any of
the new stuff and use the mentioned
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:00 AM, kashani kashani-l...@badapple.net wrote:
On 11/28/2011 9:28 AM, James Wall wrote:
I wonder if someone in this thread will help me understand the term
'ricer'. The only origin I know of this term, from the car world, is
really pretty racist, so I wonder if
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 12:22:48 -0500
Albert W. Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org wrote:
But my feeling is, if you use the testing branch and you *don't* find
bugs, then you aren't testing hard enough :P
Or maybe I just got used to dealing with occasional oopsies and
stopped noticing them...
I do
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
On Nov 28, 2011 11:32 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
Unfortunately, striving for 2*N will inadvertently result in short bursts of
2*N, and this potentially induce a stall, which will be very costly. 1.8*N
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
[snip]
FWIW, I strongly suspect that N should be your number of *logical*
cores, not your number of physical cores. I believe most of the
overhead
Am 28.11.2011 18:56, schrieb Michael Mol:
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
On Nov 28, 2011 10:38 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
Won't file a bug report, though. I have a
On 11/27/2011 02:34 PM, walt wrote:
Somewhere deep in the bowels of portage my 'introspection' useflag is
vanishing -- but on just one of my three machines.
I set the introspection useflag on all three machines (two ~amd64 and
one ~x86) but when I run emerge --info, only two of the machines
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote:
Am 28.11.2011 18:56, schrieb Michael Mol:
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
No, you've got some ugly flags in there. -fexcess-precision and
-funsafe-math-optimizations, in
On 11/28/2011 06:59 PM, Florian Philipp wrote:
Am 28.11.2011 17:15, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:
On 11/28/2011 02:29 PM, Albert W. Hopkins wrote:
On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 20:28 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote:
With 100% repeatability, mind you, which does raise same questions on
the amount of testing
On Nov 29, 2011 2:02 AM, Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote:
Am 28.11.2011 18:56, schrieb Michael Mol:
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info
wrote:
On Nov 28, 2011 10:38 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Pandu
Am 28.11.2011 20:14, schrieb Michael Mol:
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net
wrote:
Am 28.11.2011 18:56, schrieb Michael Mol:
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
No, you've got some ugly flags in there.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:
On 11/28/2011 06:59 PM, Florian Philipp wrote:
Am 28.11.2011 17:15, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:
On 11/28/2011 02:29 PM, Albert W. Hopkins wrote:
On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 20:28 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote:
With 100%
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
On Nov 29, 2011 2:02 AM, Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote:
Am 28.11.2011 18:56, schrieb Michael Mol:
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info
wrote:
On Nov 28, 2011 10:38 PM, Michael
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote:
Am 28.11.2011 20:14, schrieb Michael Mol:
Upstream devs might take issue with them, but I'm still not sure they
should affect bug reports of build-time failures. I would *hope*
upstream gcc is doing tests on its own
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes:
Japanese youngsters doing bizarre mods to cars that produce absolutely
no net gain are indeed the source of the term ricer.
Yes, it is rude and disparaging but it's also the real root of the
term. There's no need to politically correct it, the
Am 28.11.2011 20:16, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:
On 11/28/2011 06:59 PM, Florian Philipp wrote:
Am 28.11.2011 17:15, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:
On 11/28/2011 02:29 PM, Albert W. Hopkins wrote:
On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 20:28 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote:
With 100% repeatability, mind you, which does
On Monday 28 Nov 2011 11:50:30 Pandu Poluan wrote:
On Nov 28, 2011 5:53 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:29:26 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote:
Open /etc/conf.d/net
Compare it with /etc/conf.d/net.example
That file should be removed, the elog message
Joseph syscon780 at gmail.com writes:
Any suggestion for scanner with good Linux support and ADF
I have an old HP that works just fine.
http://www.sane-project.org
hth,
James
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 20:57 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote:
Sorry if that sounded harsh but really, what you want is what Redhat
(maybe) does for its releases and those only occur every few years and
cost lots of money.
Yeah, and even *they* send test pre-releases to some of their clients
and
Dear gentoo-users, pls tell me if this is true:
http://www.cups.org/str.php?L3742
Does anyone use this USB-adapter-cable:
ID 067b:2305 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port
successfully with gentoo?
If no, are there any yes, works recommendations for an adapter-cable
or -card to
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:11:27PM +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
Right now I use some package.mask-list from a posting in the
gentoo-forums I'd be happy if the maintainers would provide us with
a way to easily chose to stay w/ gnome-3 somehow (without maintaining a
long list of
On Sunday 27 Nov 2011 20:36:06 Samuraiii wrote:
Hello,
Today Im form morning trying to get working apache 2.2.21-r1 and php
5.3.8 with userdirs mod.
The problem is that apache is capable of opening ~/public_html but when
it gets to open folder with index.php
it fails with this error:
(in
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm currently timing
MAKEOPTS=-j16 -l13
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--jobs --load-average=13
with 493 packages (base plus X plus XFCE and chromium, and, of course,
USE flags), but I'll start another timed run with
MAKEOPTS=-j16
On Mon, Nov 28 2011, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
Though I don’t use either Gnome version, I believe that we are quite safe with
Gentoo for a while longer, as compared with most other distros out there. At
least that is what I remember from my KDE experience; (almost) all distros
jumped on the
On Nov 29, 2011 2:53 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
I use Intel boxes, unfortunately.
Are you using a 64-bit x86-derived system? Same difference in this
context. AMD hit the market with a good 64-bit
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 12:22:48 -0500
Albert W. Hopkinsmar...@letterboxes.org wrote:
But my feeling is, if you use the testing branch and you *don't* find
bugs, then you aren't testing hard enough :P
Or maybe I just got used to dealing with occasional oopsies and
stopped
Mick wrote:
On Monday 28 Nov 2011 11:50:30 Pandu Poluan wrote:
On Nov 28, 2011 5:53 PM, Neil Bothwickn...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:29:26 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote:
Open /etc/conf.d/net
Compare it with /etc/conf.d/net.example
That file should be removed, the elog message
walt wrote:
Thanks, Dale for all of your research. It prodded my fuzzy old brain
into looking in different directions.
I'm glad you got yours sorted out but I'm still curious as to how it is
on in one place and off somewhere else. I know a dev has it set that
way and I'm SURE he/she
Sebastian Pipping wrote:
On 11/28/2011 02:41 AM, Mike Edenfield wrote:
Since I didn't write it at work it's all yours. :)
Thanks. Posted here:
https://blog.hartwork.org/?p=1516
Best,
Sebastian
*cough cough* Maybe a good burp too. I get this:
This Connection is Untrusted
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 12:22:48 -0500
Albert W. Hopkinsmar...@letterboxes.org wrote:
But my feeling is, if you use the testing branch and you *don't* find
bugs, then you aren't testing hard enough :P
Or
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:35:02 -0600, Dale wrote:
I update regularly and just got the same message. I wonder why
didn't the dev create a symlink from the /etc/conf.d/net.example
- /usr/share/doc/openrc- latest_version/net.example to save a
need for the enotice?
Because that would mean
James Wall wrote:
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 12:22:48 -0500
Albert W. Hopkinsmar...@letterboxes.orgwrote:
But my feeling is, if you use the testing branch and you *don't* find
bugs, then you aren't testing
On Nov 29, 2011 8:51 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:35:02 -0600, Dale wrote:
I update regularly and just got the same message. I wonder why
didn't the dev create a symlink from the /etc/conf.d/net.example
- /usr/share/doc/openrc-
Pandu Poluan wrote:
On Nov 29, 2011 8:51 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk
mailto:n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:35:02 -0600, Dale wrote:
I update regularly and just got the same message. I wonder why
didn't the dev create a symlink from the
Stefan G. Weichinger lists at xunil.at writes:
http://www.cups.org/str.php?L3742
Does anyone use this USB-adapter-cable:
ID 067b:2305 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port
Unknown. Look in the driver section of building a kernel
for the supported devices. I have use FTDI usb-serial
I've got four 750GB drives in addition to the installed system drive.
I'd like to aggregate them and split them into a few volumes. My first
inclination would be to raid them and drop lvm on top. I know lvm well
enough, but I don't remember md that well.
Since I don't recall md well, and this
Just wondering if anyone here ever use Tcl for scripting (i.e., automating
repetitive procedures) or even *gasp* serious programming.
Rgds,
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
Just wondering if anyone here ever use Tcl for scripting (i.e., automating
repetitive procedures) or even *gasp* serious programming.
Not me, but Tcl is one of the best-represented langauges on the site I run.
On 27 November 2011, at 03:30, Joseph wrote:
Any suggestion for scanner with good Linux support and ADF
I guess you mean Auto Document Feeder?
It might be worth clarifying this, as I didn't notice / understand this when I
originally saw your post yesterday.
Stroller.
Hello Mates,
I have a new HP laptop i5, this came with Windows 7 pre-installed with HP
quickweb (a tool that let me skype, check my email and navigate Interne,
whitout loading WINDOWS).
I'm wondering if there any way to leave quickweb with gentoo, or windows +
quickweb + gentoo would be fine...
Am 29.11.2011 05:10, schrieb Michael Mol:
I've got four 750GB drives in addition to the installed system drive.
I'd like to aggregate them and split them into a few volumes. My first
inclination would be to raid them and drop lvm on top. I know lvm well
enough, but I don't remember md that
Dale wrote:
Pandu Poluan wrote:
On Nov 29, 2011 8:51 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk
mailto:n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:35:02 -0600, Dale wrote:
I update regularly and just got the same message. I wonder why
didn't the dev create a symlink from the
On 11/28/2011 07:16 PM, James wrote:
An old parallel port on an old pci card should do the
trick, if all you needs is a parallel port.
Some of those old Laserjet printer could be set up across a serial
port, if nothing else works.
I'd also check your computer's innards for a parallel
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