Re: [gentoo-user] Peeve - finding kernel config options

2014-02-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/02/2014 21:58, Tanstaafl wrote: > Hello all, > > This is for those of use who to choose to roll our kernels by hand... > > So, am I missing something? > > Given the most recent gentoo news item: > >> # eselect news read 10 >> 2014-02-25-udev-upgrade >> Title Upgrade

Re: [gentoo-user] Modifying Suspend Script?

2014-02-26 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On 27 Feb 2014 08:06, "Lee" wrote: > > Hi, I always need to reconnect my laptop pcmcia wireless card to my WAP when awaking from suspend. It would be nice if I could add two commands, ifconfig and dhpcd, to the script which controls awaking from suspend. Anyone know which file I can edit? I don't

[gentoo-user] Modifying Suspend Script?

2014-02-26 Thread Lee
Hi, I always need to reconnect my laptop pcmcia wireless card to my WAP when awaking from suspend. It would be nice if I could add two commands, ifconfig and dhpcd, to the script which controls awaking from suspend. Anyone know which file I can edit?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fwd:How about the gentoo server or cluster in production environment?

2014-02-26 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Nicolas Sebrecht: > The 26/02/14, hasufell wrote: > >> I wasn't only talking about modules and yes... loading them on >> demand actually proves my point. > > No. We are talking about servers. > I am aware of that. Please read the whole discussion

Re: [gentoo-user] Peeve - finding kernel config options

2014-02-26 Thread Dale
wraeth wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> I hate when you have to enable something else for the one you are >> looking for to show up. > Pro-tip: > In menuconfig you can press "z" to show all available kernel options > regardless of their dependency state. This means that items that are > hidden b

Re: [gentoo-user] Peeve - finding kernel config options

2014-02-26 Thread wraeth
Neil Bothwick wrote: > I hate when you have to enable something else for the one you are > looking for to show up. Pro-tip: In menuconfig you can press "z" to show all available kernel options regardless of their dependency state. This means that items that are hidden because of unmet dependenci

Re: [gentoo-user] Peeve - finding kernel config options

2014-02-26 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On the first system I tried to do this on, I needed to enable that option > before the FHANDLE option even showed up. I hate when you have to enable something else for the one you are looking for to show up. < picture emoticon banging head on brick wall > Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Peeve - finding kernel config options

2014-02-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 16:41:22 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > > Run make menuconfig > > Press / > > Type FHANDLE > > > > Then you can see it is enabled by switching on systemd support in the > > Gentoo specific options. > > I did say that I know how to search - that is how I was able to find it.

Re: [gentoo-user] Peeve - finding kernel config options

2014-02-26 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2/26/2014 3:05 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > Run make menuconfig > Press / > Type FHANDLE > > Then you can see it is enabled by switching on systemd support in the > Gentoo specific options. I did say that I know how to search - that is how I was able to find it. But... I don't WANT to switch o

[gentoo-user] Re: Peeve - finding kernel config options

2014-02-26 Thread »Q«
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:58:44 -0500 Tanstaafl wrote: > I had to find the first one (CONFIG_FHANDLE) by: > > 1. grepping .config, seeing it wasn't enabled, > 2. running make menuconfig and searching for 'FHANDLE', > 3. seeing it is located in 'General setup', And seeing that the prompt for it is

Re: [gentoo-user] Peeve - finding kernel config options

2014-02-26 Thread Poison BL.
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: > Hello all, > > This is for those of use who to choose to roll our kernels by hand... > > So, am I missing something? > > Given the most recent gentoo news item: > >> # eselect news read 10 >> 2014-02-25-udev-upgrade >> Title

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-26 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 12:32:32AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote > Is it like perl? Support every possible way to do something if it > remotely makes sense to do it, no matter how bizarre the syntax? The (d)evolution of perl reminds me of what's happened to Firefox, GNOME, and KDE. To paraphrase

Re: [gentoo-user] Peeve - finding kernel config options

2014-02-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:58:44 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > Given the most recent gentoo news item: > > > # eselect news read 10 > > 2014-02-25-udev-upgrade > > Title Upgrade to >=sys-fs/udev-210 > > AuthorSamuli Suominen > > Posted20

[gentoo-user] Peeve - finding kernel config options

2014-02-26 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello all, This is for those of use who to choose to roll our kernels by hand... So, am I missing something? Given the most recent gentoo news item: # eselect news read 10 2014-02-25-udev-upgrade Title Upgrade to >=sys-fs/udev-210 AuthorSamuli Suom

[gentoo-user] Re: Fwd:How about the gentoo server or cluster in production environment?

2014-02-26 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 26/02/14, hasufell wrote: > I wasn't only talking about modules and yes... loading them on demand > actually proves my point. No. We are talking about servers. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fwd:How about the gentoo server or cluster in production environment?

2014-02-26 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Nicolas Sebrecht: > The 21/02/14, hasufell wrote: > >> So you are saying compiling a minimal kernel to minimize exposure >> to subsystem bugs is only obscurity? (I really wonder what Greg >> would say to this) > > Developers made the kernel to rely

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fwd:How about the gentoo server or cluster in production environment?

2014-02-26 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Alan McKinnon: > On 21/02/2014 16:15, hasufell wrote: >> Alan McKinnon: >>> On 20/02/2014 22:41, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 08:52:07PM +0400, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > And this point is one of the highest sec

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fwd:How about the gentoo server or cluster in production environment?

2014-02-26 Thread Poison BL.
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:55 AM, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > The 21/02/14, hasufell wrote: > >> So you are saying compiling a minimal kernel to minimize exposure to >> subsystem bugs is only obscurity? (I really wonder what Greg would say >> to this) > > Developers made the kernel to rely on modules

Re: [gentoo-user] missing dependencies

2014-02-26 Thread Francisco Ares
2014-02-26 9:30 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares : > 2014-02-26 8:54 GMT-03:00 David M. Fellows : > > On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:12:35 -0300 >> Francisco Ares wrote - >> > --001a113311e686e7f304f34d4a39 >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> > >> > Hi All, >> > >> > It has been for a while, now: ev

Re: [gentoo-user] missing dependencies

2014-02-26 Thread Francisco Ares
2014-02-26 8:54 GMT-03:00 David M. Fellows : > On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:12:35 -0300 > Francisco Ares wrote - > > --001a113311e686e7f304f34d4a39 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > Hi All, > > > > It has been for a while, now: every now and then, when updating a perl > > module, it

Re: [gentoo-user] missing dependencies

2014-02-26 Thread Francisco Ares
2014-02-26 8:54 GMT-03:00 Neil Bothwick : > On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:12:35 -0300, Francisco Ares wrote: > > > At first I thought it was a one and only case. But as time goes by, > > there has been perl packages that refuse to emerge at first, and then, > > checking the emerge log, finding missing m

Re: [gentoo-user] missing dependencies

2014-02-26 Thread David M. Fellows
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:12:35 -0300 Francisco Ares wrote - > --001a113311e686e7f304f34d4a39 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi All, > > It has been for a while, now: every now and then, when updating a perl > module, it fails to emerge. Checking the log, it is possible to see > s

Re: [gentoo-user] missing dependencies

2014-02-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:12:35 -0300, Francisco Ares wrote: > At first I thought it was a one and only case. But as time goes by, > there has been perl packages that refuse to emerge at first, and then, > checking the emerge log, finding missing modules and manually emerging > them, everything goes

[gentoo-user] Re: Fwd:How about the gentoo server or cluster in production environment?

2014-02-26 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 21/02/14, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > Are you considering Bruce Schneier's advice as a stupid nonsense? In > his "Applied cryptography" he recommended one of the ways to > straighten a system: to use not so frequently used algorithms instead > of selected standards because less frequently used a

[gentoo-user] missing dependencies

2014-02-26 Thread Francisco Ares
Hi All, It has been for a while, now: every now and then, when updating a perl module, it fails to emerge. Checking the log, it is possible to see something like this, when I tied to update dev-perl/File-MimeInfo : ... Checking prerequisites... requires: ! File::BaseDir is not installed

[gentoo-user] Re: Fwd:How about the gentoo server or cluster in production environment?

2014-02-26 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 21/02/14, hasufell wrote: > So you are saying compiling a minimal kernel to minimize exposure to > subsystem bugs is only obscurity? (I really wonder what Greg would say > to this) Developers made the kernel to rely on modules. Distributions relies on them. Since they are almost always loaded

[gentoo-user] Re: Fwd:How about the gentoo server or cluster in production environment?

2014-02-26 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 21/02/14, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > Any decent security setup contains multiple layers of protection. > Use of non-standard binaries, algorithms or implementations is just > one of them and it is the simplest math to prove that security is > _improved_ this way. The algorithms and implementa

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-26 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 21.02.2014 23:43, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> And now with 209 there is a new systemd-networkd deamon that is started >> by default even if not configured or used. >> >> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTYxMTI > > $ ./configure --help | grep networkd > --disable-networ

[gentoo-user] Re: technical review of systemd

2014-02-26 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 25/02/14, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > Perhaps they are starting small? I don't know; I'm pretty sure they are. BTW, things are moving fast and the state has already changed since my last check (not so old). >from what I've read, > they want s

[gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-26 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 26/02/14, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > Sabayon uses binary packages, isn't? Yes. > Then eselect perhaps uninstalls > some packages and installs others? I don't know the code, sorry. Since I've already tried the 'eselect init' command, I'm pretty sure it