Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-04-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 14:05:28 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: I think we've just gotten into a mode where we automate user configuration instead of eliminating the need for it. That's a good way of looking at it. Most USE flags are not set by the user by by the profile. By selecting a particular

Re: [gentoo-user] Hungry firefox

2015-04-02 Thread Philip Webb
150401 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 11:34:19 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: Occasionally, I've had javascripts running away with the CPU, which stops when I kill FF restart it. That's just bad JS programming. Do you have to kill the whole browser and not just the offending tab? That's

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Strange behaviour of google certificates.

2015-04-02 Thread Gevisz
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 03:52:40 -0400 Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 08:19:45PM +0300, Gevisz wrote So, I am using Claws Mail that downloads e-mails from several google mail accounts (all are mine :) and about once or twice in a month get into the situation

Re: [gentoo-user] Hungry firefox

2015-04-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 03:28:43 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: Occasionally, I've had javascripts running away with the CPU, which stops when I kill FF restart it. That's just bad JS programming. Do you have to kill the whole browser and not just the offending tab? That's just bad

Re: [gentoo-user] xen on new install reboots by itself

2015-04-02 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, March 30, 2015 07:07:39 PM symack wrote: Hello Everyone, New install, on a old server with raid 10 scsi... The normal installation works fine, the only thing is when we try to boot with xen, it gets to the prompt and then reboots by itself. The following message is what differs

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc-systemd command comparison

2015-04-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 01 April 2015 19:12:14 Marc Joliet wrote: Am Wed, 01 Apr 2015 10:29:15 +0100 schrieb Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk: On Wednesday 01 April 2015 10:53:15 Marc Joliet wrote: Am Wed, 01 Apr 2015 09:43:21 +0100 [...] Apparently it's (partially) due to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-04-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 07:21:01 +0200, Róbert Čerňanský wrote: Besides there is such database now - it is your (abused) package.use! You have to manually add entries to it and I do not know any database slower than human typing to a text file ;-) (There is autounmask option of course but then you

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Strange behaviour of google certificates.

2015-04-02 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 08:19:45PM +0300, Gevisz wrote So, I am using Claws Mail that downloads e-mails from several google mail accounts (all are mine :) and about once or twice in a month get into the situation when Claws asks me to verify and change the google certificates, first in one

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-04-02 Thread Róbert Čerňanský
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 09:41:10 +0100 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 07:21:01 +0200, Róbert Čerňanský wrote: Besides there is such database now - it is your (abused) package.use! You have to manually add entries to it and I do not know any database slower than

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-04-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 30 March 2015 22:23:21 James wrote: package.use via automask is getting a bit out of hand, already. Somehow, I do not feel good about the devs solution is to munge up something I have already been abusing. So, does 'eix-test-obsolete' have some automated option to clean up

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc-systemd command comparison

2015-04-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 10:13:38 -0700, Daniel Frey wrote: That's where I was thinking of. It's not there right now, are edits moderated? I just hit Ctrl+F5 and it's visible for me. (I'm logged in to the wiki though.) https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd#See_Also I just logged out of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Please explain X fonts?

2015-04-02 Thread Urs Schütz
On 04/01/15 21:03, lee wrote: Urs Schütz u.sch...@bluewin.ch writes: On 03/29/15 06:23, lee wrote: walt w41...@gmail.com writes: On 03/26/2015 07:15 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: snip all questions I can't answer As to fonts, I highly recommend Source Code Pro and Source Sans Pro. They finally

Re: [gentoo-user] gummiboot does not display new kernel

2015-04-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
On 02.04.2015 23:14, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Stefan, this is kinda stupid, but have you tried to re-emerge gummiboot? nope gummiboot was emerged here on march, 7th one day before I started this thread. I can reemerge, sure. Reboot right now ... not so ideal ...

Re: [gentoo-user] gummiboot does not display new kernel

2015-04-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
On 09.03.2015 09:16, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: # ls -l loader/entries/ total 2 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 329 9. Mär 09:04 e55a6b6a09bd2b1c50216272545a8d1f-3.19.0-gentoo.conf -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 329 9. Mär 09:01 e55a6b6a09bd2b1c50216272545a8d1f-3.19.1-gentoo.conf -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Purchase and setup of monitor calibration device

2015-04-02 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 06:36:16PM +0200, waben...@gmail.com wrote: Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote: I thought about getting a wide-gamut display, namely a Dell with rgb-LEDs, but in the end decided against it because its quality seems But if you buy online, you always have the

[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo announces total website makeover :-)

2015-04-02 Thread »Q«
On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 17:03:15 +0300 Ivan T. Ivanov iiva...@mm-sol.com wrote: On Wed, 2015-04-01 at 01:37 +0200, waben...@gmail.com wrote: This really made my day. :-) https://www.gentoo.org/news/2015/03/31/website-update.html Eeh, it is no longer available, I mean the first version.

Re: [gentoo-user] multilib - do I need it?

2015-04-02 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 02:12:40PM -0300, Francisco Ares wrote Hi, How does one know previously which packages will require 32 bit ABI ? I have two systems (among others) to consider: one is very simple, built using as fewer packages as possible, it is the development system for an

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 03 April 2015 01:33:45 Ivan Viso Altamirano wrote: As far as i know , there isnt any Quantum os out there Not only no OS, but no hardware either. I don't see Gentoo having a quantum version any time soon ;-) -- Rgds Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-02 Thread Ivan Viso Altamirano
I forgot again . As far as i know , there isnt any Quantum os out there . Just qcpus performing a very simple algorythm. Because the particles still cant hold their state for long enough.

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-02 Thread wabenbau
Boricua Siempre borikua.197...@gmail.com wrote: Hello I have reading of quantum computing and I want know what operating systems are use in quantum computers. And I read quantum computers I don't think that (yet) there exists computers that are completely based on quantum components. Maybe

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-04-02 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 10:23:21AM +0100, Mick wrote: Hmm ... I don't think setting abi_x86_32 globally is necessary, unless you want to have 32bit libs for ALL packages that these exist for, whether you use them or not. I mean that for Skype you have no alternative at present, but if

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-04-02 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 12:40:20AM +0200, me, myself and I wrote: I used this opportunity to finally rid myself of Skype entirely. Nobody knows how it’s still possible to use that Microsoft infested spyware on Linux anway, how it’s possible → how long it’s still possible -- Gruß | Greetings

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-02 Thread Ivan Viso Altamirano
Ii think it is about Quantum bonds . In wich 2 particles share the same State at any distance .

Re: [gentoo-user] Hungry firefox

2015-04-02 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 03:28:43AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote: Do you have to kill the whole browser and not just the offending tab? That's just bad programming... Do you use FF yourself ? -- if there's only 1 tab open you kill it, it kills the whole FF job too. I hate it when browsers

Re: [gentoo-user] Hungry firefox

2015-04-02 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 01:02:54AM +0200, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 03:28:43AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote: Do you have to kill the whole browser and not just the offending tab? That's just bad programming... Do you use FF yourself ? -- if there's only 1 tab

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-02 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Friday, April 03, 2015 1:25:59 AM Ivan Viso Altamirano wrote: Ii think it is about Quantum bonds . In wich 2 particles share the same State at any distance . And about PhDs extracting research funds from politicians :) -- Fernando Rodriguez

Re: [gentoo-user] multilib - do I need it?

2015-04-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 02 April 2015 21:30:14 Walter Dnes wrote: I recently upgraded a 7+ year old machine from 32-bit Gentoo to 64-bit- only Gentoo (no-multilib) and I don't have any apps with problems as 64- bit only. Do you have Flash? If that runs on no-multilib I'd consider switching to that

[gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-02 Thread Boricua Siempre
Hello I have reading of quantum computing and I want know what operating systems are use in quantum computers. And I read quantum computers can use particols moving faster than light but on other book particels faster than light make analog sonar boom that can destroy universe. Is quantum

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-02 Thread Ivan Viso Altamirano
Btw . If the universe where that easy yo destroy ,it would already be destroyed. Is just an estadistic question . Is just very improbable that we are the most advanced lifeform in it . All if this written bi phone El 03/04/2015 01:25, Ivan Viso Altamirano ivanviso...@gmail.com escribió: Ii

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo announces total website makeover :-)

2015-04-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 02 April 2015 17:25:39 »Q« wrote: http://wayback.archive.org/web/20150401025937/https://www.gentoo.org/news /2015/03/31/website-update.html Good link - thanks! -- Rgds Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-04-02 Thread Mick
On Friday 03 Apr 2015 00:08:53 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 12:40:20AM +0200, me, myself and I wrote: I used this opportunity to finally rid myself of Skype entirely. Nobody knows how it’s still possible to use that Microsoft infested spyware on Linux anway, how it’s

Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt emerge USE flags for novice

2015-04-02 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 02:09:57PM -0400, German wrote: Thank you, but are there anyone around who uses Mutt with gmail? I use mutt with gmail IMAP and the following flags: [ebuild R] mail-client/mutt-1.5.23-r5 USE=berkdb crypt gdbm gpg imap kerberos nls sasl smime smtp ssl -debug -doc

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc-systemd command comparison

2015-04-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 02 April 2015 18:19:47 Marc Joliet wrote: % grep PORTAGE /etc/kernels/* /etc/kernels/kernel-config-3.19.2-gentoo:CONFIG_GENTOO_LINUX_PORTAGE=y /etc/kernels/kernel-config-3.19.3-gentoo:CONFIG_GENTOO_LINUX_PORTAGE=y # ls -l /etc/kernels /bin/ls: cannot access /etc/kernels: No such

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Purchase and setup of monitor calibration device

2015-04-02 Thread wabenbau
Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote: A wide gamut monitor is a great thing even if you don't need it for softproofing. I shot a lot of colorful photos (e.g. from bugs, blossoms and live concerts with colored limelights). They look great on an AdobeRGB monitor but much more boring on a

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-02 Thread wabenbau
waben...@gmail.com wrote: with the movement of particles. It is a phenomenon that results from the quantum entanglement of e.g. two electrons and has to do with the nonlocality of such phenomenons. When you measure the quantum attributes of one of these two electrons you instantaneous

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-04-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 12:42 AM, Sebastian Beßler sebast...@darkmetatron.de wrote: On 01.04.2015 19:28, Róbert Čerňanský wrote: Big advantage of automatic deps over --autounmask is that auto deps would not mess with user configuration files in /etc. Changed USE flags would be stored

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-04-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 11:29:33 +0200, Róbert Čerňanský wrote: Portage doesn't change your package.use file, it creates a new one using the standard CONFIG_PROTECT process. Then you use etc-update or similar to view and verify the changes. What I am trying to tell is that portage manages

Re: [gentoo-user] multilib - do I need it?

2015-04-02 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 01:44:04AM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote On Thursday 02 April 2015 21:30:14 Walter Dnes wrote: I recently upgraded a 7+ year old machine from 32-bit Gentoo to 64-bit- only Gentoo (no-multilib) and I don't have any apps with problems as 64- bit only. Do you have

[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo announces total website makeover :-)

2015-04-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-04-02, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Well, let's not forget about having the word login: burned into the screen too. Me, I always turned mine off when I left for the day. Everyone else tho, they could see their login prompt all the time, just in a slightly different color. o_-

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Strange behaviour of google certificates.

2015-04-02 Thread James
Walter Dnes waltdnes at waltdnes.org writes: So, I am using Claws Mail that downloads e-mails from several google mail accounts (all are mine :) and about once or twice in a month get into the situation when Claws asks me to verify and change the google certificates, first in one

[gentoo-user] Re: This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-04-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-04-02, Róbert Čerňanský ope...@tightmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 09:41:10 +0100 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 07:21:01 +0200, Róbert Čerňanský wrote: Besides there is such database now - it is your (abused) package.use! You have to manually add

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo announces total website makeover :-)

2015-04-02 Thread Ivan T. Ivanov
On Wed, 2015-04-01 at 01:37 +0200, waben...@gmail.com wrote: This really made my day. :-) https://www.gentoo.org/news/2015/03/31/website-update.html Eeh, it is no longer available, I mean the first version. Do anyone think we can ask for permanent link to old version? Thanks, Ivan

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc-systemd command comparison

2015-04-02 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Thu, 02 Apr 2015 10:48:13 +0100 schrieb Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk: On Wednesday 01 April 2015 19:12:14 Marc Joliet wrote: Am Wed, 01 Apr 2015 10:29:15 +0100 schrieb Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk: On Wednesday 01 April 2015 10:53:15 Marc Joliet wrote: Am Wed, 01

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-04-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: I prefer it this way. I do not want all the nice easy-to read/edit configuration stuff in /etc/portage encrypted some Windows Registry break-alike. Nobody is proposing any changes to the format of package.use.

[gentoo-user] multilib - do I need it?

2015-04-02 Thread Francisco Ares
Hi, How does one know previously which packages will require 32 bit ABI ? I have two systems (among others) to consider: one is very simple, built using as fewer packages as possible, it is the development system for an embedded equipment, and it is 64 bit ABI only - no multilib; the other is a

Re: [gentoo-user] multilib - do I need it?

2015-04-02 Thread Mick
On Thursday 02 Apr 2015 18:12:40 Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, How does one know previously which packages will require 32 bit ABI ? I have two systems (among others) to consider: one is very simple, built using as fewer packages as possible, it is the development system for an embedded

Re: [gentoo-user] gummiboot does not display new kernel

2015-04-02 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: On 09.03.2015 09:16, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: # ls -l loader/entries/ total 2 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 329 9. Mär 09:04 e55a6b6a09bd2b1c50216272545a8d1f-3.19.0-gentoo.conf -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 329 9. Mär

Re: [gentoo-user] gummiboot does not display new kernel

2015-04-02 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Thursday, April 02, 2015 11:06:44 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: On 09.03.2015 09:16, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: # ls -l loader/entries/ total 2 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 329 9. Mär 09:04 e55a6b6a09bd2b1c50216272545a8d1f-3.19.0-gentoo.conf -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 329 9. Mär 09:01

Re: [gentoo-user] gummiboot does not display new kernel

2015-04-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
On 02.04.2015 23:21, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I can reemerge, sure. Reboot right now ... not so ideal ... ok, tried that. didn't change anything. I can deal with it. It just doesn't work as expected.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo announces total website makeover :-)

2015-04-02 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2015-04-02, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Well, let's not forget about having the word login: burned into the screen too. Me, I always turned mine off when I left for the day. Everyone else tho, they could see their login prompt all the time, just in a slightly

[gentoo-user] Re: Hungry firefox

2015-04-02 Thread »Q«
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 03:28:43 -0400 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: 150401 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 11:34:19 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: Occasionally, I've had javascripts running away with the CPU, which stops when I kill FF restart it. That's just bad JS