Re: [gentoo-user] Updating old Gentoo on notebook

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On 14/09/2021 02:11, Walter Dnes wrote:

On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 10:21:27PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote

On Mon, 13 Sep 2021 15:59:52 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:


   I have a notebook that I haven't updated for a while.  After emerge
sync, it said to "emerge -1 portage".  Trying to do so got me the
following as listed in the gzipped attachment.  I'd really rather not
re-install.  Is there a way to get out of this?


You've been hit by the switch from Python 3.8 to 3.9 by the looks of it.
Try adding "sys-apps/portage python_targets_python3_8" to package.use.

You'll probably have to add a few more packages to this list to get world
updated.


   Thank you very much.  Progress.  I've managed to get portage-3.0.26-r6
built.  My package.use currently has...

sys-apps/portage -rsync-verify python_targets_python3_8
dev-python/setuptool python_targets_python3_8
dev-python/setuptools python_targets_python3_8
dev-python/certifi python_targets_python3_8
dev-python/setuptools_scm python_targets_python3_8
dev-python/toml python_targets_python3_8

   Can I remove the python flags now or should I do a world update first?

I'd do a system update first. Make sure the necessities are in a stable 
state before you start mucking about with all the extras ... :-)


Cheers,
Wol

Re: [gentoo-user] faded images with Gwenview

[Philip Webb]

210913 David Haller wrote:
> Gwenview uses color-management via media-libs/lcms, feh does not.
> See "Rendering intent" and "Color profile" under "Advanced"
> in Gwenview's configure dialog.  HTH.

That cb relevant, but I've explored further & have some results.

When I crop a JPG image with Fotoxx or Gwenview,
then view it with Gwenview, the colors remain vivid ;
this is true whether I rename the new version in Gwenview or not.

It's only when I crop a PNG image in Gwenview
& save it in place (ie with the same name), that the colors are faded
& that's only when viewed with Gwenview, not eg with Feh.

So I can avoid the problem either by cropping only with Fotoxx
or by renaming them whenever I do it with Gwenview
or by converting PNGs to JPGs before cropping them.

The bad case does look like a Gwenview bug,
but KDE bugs tend to disappear into the ocean, if reported.

Thanks for the comments.  I will try redoing the faded versions,
tho' that will mean getting them from the I/net again.
Any further suggestions re causes of the bad case are welcome.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Updating old Gentoo on notebook

[Walter Dnes]

On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 10:21:27PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote
> On Mon, 13 Sep 2021 15:59:52 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
> 
> >   I have a notebook that I haven't updated for a while.  After emerge
> > sync, it said to "emerge -1 portage".  Trying to do so got me the
> > following as listed in the gzipped attachment.  I'd really rather not
> > re-install.  Is there a way to get out of this?
> 
> You've been hit by the switch from Python 3.8 to 3.9 by the looks of it.
> Try adding "sys-apps/portage python_targets_python3_8" to package.use. 
> 
> You'll probably have to add a few more packages to this list to get world
> updated.

  Thank you very much.  Progress.  I've managed to get portage-3.0.26-r6
built.  My package.use currently has...

sys-apps/portage -rsync-verify python_targets_python3_8
dev-python/setuptool python_targets_python3_8
dev-python/setuptools python_targets_python3_8
dev-python/certifi python_targets_python3_8
dev-python/setuptools_scm python_targets_python3_8
dev-python/toml python_targets_python3_8

  Can I remove the python flags now or should I do a world update first?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Updating old Gentoo on notebook

[Walter Dnes]

On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 10:14:46PM +0200, tastytea wrote
> On 2021-09-13 15:59-0400 "Walter Dnes"  wrote:
> 
> >   I have a notebook that I haven't updated for a while.  After emerge
> > sync, it said to "emerge -1 portage".  Trying to do so got me the
> > following as listed in the gzipped attachment.  I'd really rather not
> > re-install.  Is there a way to get out of this?
> > 
> 
> Looks like some packages want python 3.8 and some python 3.9. If you
> emerge portage with USE="PYTHON_TARGETS: python3_8 -python3_9" first
> and then again normally it might work.

  That didn't quite work.  I did "emerge -1 glibc", which also pulled in
paxutils.  This removed the "deprecated glibc" error.  But still no luck
with emerging portage.

  Following this I ran "emerge -1 binutils".  But still no luck with
emerging portage.

  "emerge -1 dev-python/certifi" got nowhere.  So I did "emerge -1 gcc",
which pulled it up from 9.3 to 10.3.  Portage is still no go.  Output
from "emerge -1 portage >>output.txt 2>&1" follows.  I have tried
building each of certifi, setuptools, toml, and setuptools_scm
separately with no luck.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Updating old Gentoo on notebook

[Walter Dnes]

On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 04:12:54PM -0400, Jack wrote
> On 2021.09.13 15:59, Walter Dnes wrote:
> >   I have a notebook that I haven't updated for a while.  After emerge
> > sync, it said to "emerge -1 portage".  Trying to do so got me the
> > following as listed in the gzipped attachment.  I'd really rather not
> > re-install.  Is there a way to get out of this?
> 
>  From my very elementary and simplistic look at the log, have you been  
> messing at all with python version related settings?  (python_target  
> related flags)

  No.  The notebook hasn't been updated for a few months.

> It looks like the new portage needs the new version of some python  
> packages, but the older version of some of those packages  is still  
> required by yet other packages.
> Until/unless someone can suggest a more comprehensive approach (which  
> may be likely,) I would try upgrading those pythong packages included  
> in your upgrad - one at a time, trying to figure out which other  
> packages you need to upgrade first.

  That's what I'm doing right now, one piece at a time.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Updating old Gentoo on notebook

[Neil Bothwick]

On Mon, 13 Sep 2021 15:59:52 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:

>   I have a notebook that I haven't updated for a while.  After emerge
> sync, it said to "emerge -1 portage".  Trying to do so got me the
> following as listed in the gzipped attachment.  I'd really rather not
> re-install.  Is there a way to get out of this?

You've been hit by the switch from Python 3.8 to 3.9 by the looks of it.
Try adding "sys-apps/portage python_targets_python3_8" to package.use. 

You'll probably have to add a few more packages to this list to get world
updated. I currently have 38 packages with this flag in package_use on my
laptop, yet my desktop needs none, so the number you will have to add
will be somewhere between zero and lots :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Updating old Gentoo on notebook

[tastytea]

On 2021-09-13 15:59-0400 "Walter Dnes"  wrote:

>   I have a notebook that I haven't updated for a while.  After emerge
> sync, it said to "emerge -1 portage".  Trying to do so got me the
> following as listed in the gzipped attachment.  I'd really rather not
> re-install.  Is there a way to get out of this?
> 

Looks like some packages want python 3.8 and some python 3.9. If you
emerge portage with USE="PYTHON_TARGETS: python3_8 -python3_9" first
and then again normally it might work.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Updating old Gentoo on notebook

[Jack]

On 2021.09.13 15:59, Walter Dnes wrote:

  I have a notebook that I haven't updated for a while.  After emerge
sync, it said to "emerge -1 portage".  Trying to do so got me the
following as listed in the gzipped attachment.  I'd really rather not
re-install.  Is there a way to get out of this?


From my very elementary and simplistic look at the log, have you been  
messing at all with python version related settings?  (python_target  
related flags)
It looks like the new portage needs the new version of some python  
packages, but the older version of some of those packages  is still  
required by yet other packages.
Until/unless someone can suggest a more comprehensive approach (which  
may be likely,) I would try upgrading those pythong packages included  
in your upgrad - one at a time, trying to figure out which other  
packages you need to upgrade first.
Of course if you've manually modified any python_target settings, I'd  
consider that to be a likely cause of the problems.


Jack

[gentoo-user] Updating old Gentoo on notebook

[Walter Dnes]

  I have a notebook that I haven't updated for a while.  After emerge
sync, it said to "emerge -1 portage".  Trying to do so got me the
following as listed in the gzipped attachment.  I'd really rather not
re-install.  Is there a way to get out of this?

-- 
Walter Dnes 
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications


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[gentoo-user] Re: faded images with Gwenview

[Grant Edwards]

On 2021-09-13, Neil Bothwick  wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Sep 2021 03:57:55 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
>
>> >> I've tried changing all the various settings in Gwenview config
>> >> separately, but nothing changes.
>> >
>> > Have you tried logging is as a new user with default Gwenview
>> > config?
>> 
>> No : why would that be expected to help ?
>
> Because it would revert to a default config, instead of trying
> changes one at a time to see if anything makes a difference. If it
> doesn't happen with a new user, you know it is a configuration
> issue.

Or a caching issue. Some libraries cache stuff in a per-user cache
(often in ~/.cache). There's one Qt application upon which I rely
where the UI occassionally stops rendering. It worked fine if you
logged in as a new user, but wiping your config, logout, reboot, etc
and allowing it to default didn't help. I actually switched over
completely to a new use account once to avoid the problem. Later, I
figured out all I had to do was "rm -rf ~/.cache/".

Re: [gentoo-user] faded images with Gwenview

[David Haller]

Hello,

On Sun, 12 Sep 2021, Philip Webb wrote:
>It remains a puzzle.  Any further comments from anyone are most welcome.

Gwenview uses color-management via media-libs/lcms, feh does not.
See "Rendering intent" and "Color profile" under "Advanced" in
Gwenview's configure dialog.

HTH,
-dnh

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Re: [gentoo-user] faded images with Gwenview

[Neil Bothwick]

On Mon, 13 Sep 2021 03:57:55 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:

> >> I've tried changing all the various settings in Gwenview config
> >> separately, but nothing changes.  
> > Have you tried logging is as a new user with default Gwenview config?
> >  
> 
> No : why would that be expected to help ?

Because it would revert to a default config, instead of trying changes
one at a time to see if anything makes a difference. If it doesn't happen
with a new user, you know it is a configuration issue.


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Re: [gentoo-user] faded images with Gwenview

[Philip Webb]

210913 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Sep 2021 23:14:11 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
>> I've tried changing all the various settings in Gwenview config
>> separately, but nothing changes.
> Have you tried logging is as a new user with default Gwenview config?

No : why would that be expected to help ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] faded images with Gwenview

[Neil Bothwick]

On Sun, 12 Sep 2021 23:14:11 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:

> I've tried changing all the various settings in Gwenview config
> separately, but nothing changes.

Have you tried logging is as a new user with default Gwenview config?


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