Re: [gentoo-user] Jobs and load-average

2023-02-15 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 10:56:22 AM CET Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > Not long ago I read that we should allow 2GB RAM for every emerge job - that > is, we should divide our RAM size by 2 to get the maximum number of > simultaneous jobs. I'm trying to get that right, but I'm not

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it OK to get rid of app-alternatives/* ?

2023-02-15 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 07:20:37PM +, Wol wrote > what are they going to do about "eselect kernel set ..." then? > > It's bad enough depclean deleting the active kernel if you don't watch > out, without something deciding to install a non-existent kernel and > deleting the live one :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it OK to get rid of app-alternatives/* ?

2023-02-15 Thread Arsen Arsenović
Hi, Wol writes: > On 15/02/2023 15:51, Daniel Frey wrote: >> On 2/15/23 06:10, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >>> On 2023-02-15 08:11:46, Neil Bothwick wrote: If, as you say, it will eventually replace eselect, there is no more bloat, just different bloat. It's still just a bunch of

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it OK to get rid of app-alternatives/* ?

2023-02-15 Thread Wol
On 15/02/2023 15:51, Daniel Frey wrote: On 2/15/23 06:10, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 2023-02-15 08:11:46, Neil Bothwick wrote: If, as you say, it will eventually replace eselect, there is no more bloat, just different bloat. It's still just a bunch of symlinks, but managed differently.

[gentoo-user] Re: my 5.15.93 kernel keeps rebooting

2023-02-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-02-15, Grant Edwards wrote: > [1] For this purpose you want a plain old UART on the motherboard type > seial port. You'd be surprised how many motherboards still have > them. Even though they're never brought out to a DB9 connector on > the back panel, there's often an 8-pin

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it OK to get rid of app-alternatives/* ?

2023-02-15 Thread Daniel Frey
On 2/15/23 06:10, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 2023-02-15 08:11:46, Neil Bothwick wrote: If, as you say, it will eventually replace eselect, there is no more bloat, just different bloat. It's still just a bunch of symlinks, but managed differently. Should be less, since you already have

Re: [gentoo-user] Jobs and load-average

2023-02-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday, 15 February 2023 15:12:28 GMT Michael wrote: > You can have both a generic MAKEOPTS in make.conf, which suits your base > case of emerge operations and will not cause your PC to explode when > combined with EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, as well as package specific MAKEOPTS in > package.env

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my 5.15.93 kernel keeps rebooting

2023-02-15 Thread John Covici
On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 09:50:27 -0500, Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2023-02-14, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > Where are you getting this from, the system log/journal? This doesn't > > seem like a clean shutdown, so if it is a kernel PANIC I wouldn't > > expect the most critical info to be in the log

Re: [gentoo-user] Jobs and load-average

2023-02-15 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 15 February 2023 14:31:25 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday, 15 February 2023 13:18:24 GMT Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 4:56 AM Peter Humphrey > > wrote: > > > Not long ago I read that we should allow 2GB RAM for every emerge job - > > > that is, we should

[gentoo-user] Re: my 5.15.93 kernel keeps rebooting

2023-02-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-02-14, Rich Freeman wrote: > Where are you getting this from, the system log/journal? This doesn't > seem like a clean shutdown, so if it is a kernel PANIC I wouldn't > expect the most critical info to be in the log (since it will stop > syncing to protect the filesystem). The details

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it OK to get rid of app-alternatives/* ?

2023-02-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 9:10 AM Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > On 2023-02-15 08:11:46, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > If, as you say, it will eventually replace eselect, there is no more > > bloat, just different bloat. It's still just a bunch of symlinks, but > > managed differently. > > > > Should

Re: [gentoo-user] Jobs and load-average

2023-02-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday, 15 February 2023 13:18:24 GMT Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 4:56 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Not long ago I read that we should allow 2GB RAM for every emerge job - > > that is, we should divide our RAM size by 2 to get the maximum number of > > simultaneous jobs.

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it OK to get rid of app-alternatives/* ?

2023-02-15 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 2023-02-15 08:11:46, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > If, as you say, it will eventually replace eselect, there is no more > bloat, just different bloat. It's still just a bunch of symlinks, but > managed differently. > Should be less, since you already have portage installed but not necessarily

Re: [gentoo-user] Jobs and load-average

2023-02-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 4:56 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Not long ago I read that we should allow 2GB RAM for every emerge job - that > is, we should divide our RAM size by 2 to get the maximum number of > simultaneous jobs. I'm trying to get that right, but I'm not there yet. > > I have these

Re: [gentoo-user] Jobs and load-average

2023-02-15 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 15 February 2023 11:31:49 GMT Peter Böhm wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 15. Februar 2023, 10:56:22 CET schrieb Peter Humphrey: > > Hello list, > > > > Not long ago I read that we should allow 2GB RAM for every emerge job - > > that is, we should divide our RAM size by 2 to get the maximum

Re: [gentoo-user] Jobs and load-average

2023-02-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday, 15 February 2023 09:56:22 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote: > EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--jobs=16 --load-average=32 --autounmask=n --quiet- > unmerge-warn --ke> That should have been: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--jobs=16 --load-average=32 --autounmask=n --quiet- unmerge-warn --keep-going

Re: [gentoo-user] Jobs and load-average

2023-02-15 Thread Peter Böhm
Am Mittwoch, 15. Februar 2023, 10:56:22 CET schrieb Peter Humphrey: > Hello list, > > Not long ago I read that we should allow 2GB RAM for every emerge job - that > is, we should divide our RAM size by 2 to get the maximum number of > simultaneous jobs. I'm trying to get that right, but I'm not

[gentoo-user] Jobs and load-average

2023-02-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list, Not long ago I read that we should allow 2GB RAM for every emerge job - that is, we should divide our RAM size by 2 to get the maximum number of simultaneous jobs. I'm trying to get that right, but I'm not there yet. I have these entries in make.conf: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--jobs=16

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it OK to get rid of app-alternatives/* ?

2023-02-15 Thread Arsen Arsenović
Hi, "Walter Dnes" writes: > A whole bunch of busy-work for emerge, and nothing in the news item > indicates it's really necessary for the average user. Howsabout... It's definitely necessary. Those packages provide links for vital parts of the filesystem, like /bin/sh. Why do you want to

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it OK to get rid of app-alternatives/* ?

2023-02-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 02:44:47 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > After thoroughly reading the docs at... > https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2022-12-27-alternatives-introduction.html > it looks like the hand of him-who-must-not-be-named. Rather than > provide special support for the 1% extreme