[gentoo-user] Re: Random segfaults with kernel 2.6.27

2008-11-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Andrey Falko wrote: On 11/20/08, *Nikos Chantziaras* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: I upgraded to kernel 2.6.27 (gentoo-sources-2.6.27-r3) yesterday. Today I experienced random segfaults during an emerge (twice during emerging mozilla-thunderbi

[gentoo-user] Re: Random segfaults with kernel 2.6.27

2008-11-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Andrey Falko wrote: When I had the symptoms you described, it turned out that my RAM voltage needed to be raised in the BIOS. Hmm. My system *is* overclocked (I'm one of those "enthusiast" guys). I'm running an E6600 that runs 2.4GHz

[gentoo-user] Re: Random segfaults with kernel 2.6.27

2008-11-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Andrey Falko wrote: On 11/20/08, *Nikos Chantziaras* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: As it happens, upgrading to kernel 2.6.27 was not the only change; I switched from xf86-video-radeonhd to the proprietary ATI Catalyst drivers. Didn't th

[gentoo-user] Re: Random segfaults with kernel 2.6.27

2008-11-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Andrey Falko wrote: On 11/20/08, *Nikos Chantziaras* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: As it happens, upgrading to kernel 2.6.27 was not the only change; I switched from xf86-video-radeonhd to the proprietary ATI Catalyst

[gentoo-user] Re: Random segfaults with kernel 2.6.27

2008-11-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Iain Buchanan wrote: Andrey Falko wrote: On 11/20/08, Nikos Chantziaras<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As it happens, upgrading to kernel 2.6.27 was not the only change; I switched from xf86-video-radeonhd to the proprietary ATI Catalyst drivers. Didn't think that this has anything

[gentoo-user] Re: Random segfaults with kernel 2.6.27

2008-11-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Iain Buchanan wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Iain Buchanan wrote: I would definitely say this is worth looking into - not necessarily because the ati-drivers are bad software but because they have always stressed my hardware more than any open source drivers (and yielded better performance

[gentoo-user] Re: Random segfaults with kernel 2.6.27

2008-11-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Andrey Falko wrote: [...] I agree. Even if this is a bug, no open source developer could be qualified to fix it because fgrlx is closed source. If you can, report this to ATI, otherwise, you will have to live with the problem or use open source drivers. That is not true. If it's in portage

[gentoo-user] Re: ati-drivers-8.501 does not compile with kernel gentoo-sources 2.6.26-r3

2008-11-24 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Arttu V. wrote: On 11/24/08, Volker Armin Hemmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Montag 24 November 2008, Christian wrote: Hi all, I wanted to update my kernel to 2.6.26-r3 today. But the ati-drivers version 8.501 won't compile. is there a good reason to use acient drivers? They're the lates

[gentoo-user] Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
I decided to give portage 2.1.6_rc1 a try. Now it wants to upgrade my KDE3 to KDE4. I never unmasked or keyworded any KDE4 stuff. Any options other than removing portage 2.1.6_rc1 again?

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I decided to give portage 2.1.6_rc1 a try. Now it wants to upgrade my KDE3 to KDE4. I never unmasked or keyworded any KDE4 stuff. Any options other than removing portage 2.1.6_rc1 again? On a similar note, what's the justification of having KDE4 in the same

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 03:18:11PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I decided to give portage 2.1.6_rc1 a try. Now it wants to upgrade my KDE3 to KDE4. I never unmasked or keyworded any KDE4 stuff. Any options other than removing portage

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Tuesday 25 November 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I decided to give portage 2.1.6_rc1 a try. Now it wants to upgrade my KDE3 to KDE4. I never unmasked or keyworded any KDE4 stuff. Any options other than removing portage 2.1.6_rc1 again? /etc/portage

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Zsitvai János wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Nikos Chantziaras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So you're saying I must spend 1 hour to mask all the stuff? (Not joking, the list is big, I have to do "emerge -av world" each time and see the package, mask it, emerge a

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Arttu V. wrote: On 11/25/08, Nikos Chantziaras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Zsitvai János wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Nikos Chantziaras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So you're saying I must spend 1 hour to mask all the stuff? (Not joking, the list is big, I have

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: On November 25, 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I didn't unmask nor keyword any *KDE4* stuff. Only KDE3. Previous portage was happy with that. The new portage is not. I have dozens of packages in package.keywords that look like this: kde-base/kdelibs in which

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Mike Williams wrote: On Tuesday 25 November 2008 13:08:40 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I decided to give portage 2.1.6_rc1 a try. Now it wants to upgrade my KDE3 to KDE4. I never unmasked or keyworded any KDE4 stuff. Any options other than removing portage 2.1.6_rc1 again? The KDE4 ebuilds

[gentoo-user] Re: Bug 246672 ATI-DRIVERS

2008-11-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
James wrote: Hello, One of my (ati) systems has been screwed up a few days now because of bug 246672. Long story short, I have no ati-drivers installed and when I try to emerge it, I get: Cannot write to '/usr/lib32/opengl/ati/extensions' Please check permissions and directories for broken sym

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't

2008-11-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Dale wrote: Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: On November 25, 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I decided to give portage 2.1.6_rc1 a try. Now it wants to upgrade my KDE3 to KDE4. I never unmasked or keyworded any KDE4 stuff. Any options other than removing portage 2.1.6_rc1 again? 1st of all

[gentoo-user] OSS4: no sound with 4GB RAM

2008-11-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
I'm on AMD64. I'm using OSS4 and sound doesn't work with 4GB RAM (silence or noise). Works fine with 2GB. Anyone encountered something like this before? OSS 4.1_rc2. Kernel 2.6.27.7 (2.6.27-gentoo-r4).

[gentoo-user] Re: OSS4: no sound with 4GB RAM

2008-11-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I'm on AMD64. I'm using OSS4 and sound doesn't work with 4GB RAM (silence or noise). Works fine with 2GB. Anyone encountered something like this before? OSS 4.1_rc2. Kernel 2.6.27.7 (2.6.27-gentoo-r4). Never mind, fixed it. For the record (in c

[gentoo-user] Re: OSS4: no sound with 4GB RAM

2008-11-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
b.n. wrote: Nikos Chantziaras ha scritto: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I'm on AMD64. I'm using OSS4 and sound doesn't work with 4GB RAM (silence or noise). Works fine with 2GB. Anyone encountered something like this before? OSS 4.1_rc2. Kernel 2.6.27.7 (2.6.27-gentoo-r4). Never

[gentoo-user] Re: Bug 246672 ATI-DRIVERS

2008-11-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
James wrote: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=247685 You need to delete all broken symlinks followed by an 'eselect opengl xorg-x11'.

[gentoo-user] Re: best practice for kernel mainteneance

2008-11-28 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Thanasis wrote: The question is: Am I supposed/ should I upgrade when a new source tree becomes stable? From a security point of view, you're supposed to upgrade the kernel as soon as a release is made upstream. When a security fix is made upstream, the vulnerability in question has been dis

[gentoo-user] Re: Quieting a 2-speed, loud CPU fan

2008-11-28 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Grant wrote: I just upgraded my AMD X2 4000+ to a 6000+. The fan that came with the 4000+ always sounded like it had one speed and it was quiet. The 6000+ comes with a fan that seems to have two speeds and the faster speed is pretty loud. Can I get the fan to never increase to the higher speed

[gentoo-user] Re: Fragmentation of my drives. Curious mostly

2008-11-28 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 28 November 2008 13:14:42 Dale wrote: If this is a little high, what would be the best way to defrag it? By not defragging it. It's not Windows. Windows boxes needs defragging not because fragmentation is a huge problem in itself, but because windows filesystem

[gentoo-user] Re: best practice for kernel maintenance

2008-11-28 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Thanasis wrote: on 11/28/2008 07:59 PM Nikos Chantziaras wrote the following: Thanasis wrote: The question is: Am I supposed/ should I upgrade when a new source tree becomes stable? >From a security point of view, you're supposed to upgrade the kernel as soon as a release is made

[gentoo-user] Re: Fragmentation of my drives. Curious mostly

2008-11-28 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: [...] what would be the best way to defrag it? By not defragging it. It's not Windows. Windows boxes needs defragging not because fragmentation is a huge problem in itself, but because windows filesystems are a steaming mess of [EMAIL PROTECTED] that do littl

[gentoo-user] Re: Quieting a 2-speed, loud CPU fan

2008-11-28 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Friday 28 November 2008, Grant wrote: I just upgraded my AMD X2 4000+ to a 6000+. The fan that came with the 4000+ always sounded like it had one speed and it was quiet. The 6000+ comes with a fan that seems to have two speeds and the faster speed is pretty loud.

[gentoo-user] Re: Unable to download Imagemagick

2008-12-01 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
ert256 wrote: Hello Since last week, i'm unable to download new imagemagick sources. This is what i get from emerge : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ sudo emerge -vu imagemagick [...] When i'm trying to download it manually i get : No such file `ImageMagick-6.4.4-6.tar.bz2'. Try this mirror: http://ftp

[gentoo-user] Anyone managed to install Intel C++ 11 on Gentoo AMD64?

2008-12-02 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
There's no ebuild for Intel C++ 11, so I'm trying to install using Intel's installation script. It barks that I don't have these: libstdc++.so.5 32-bit libstdc++ 32-bit libstdc++5 32-bit glibc 32-bit libgcc I have app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-compat installed though. Anyone managed

[gentoo-user] Re: Mouse & keyboard broken after upgrade to xorg-server-1.5.2

2008-12-02 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Erik Hahn wrote: I just upgraded xorg-server to 1.5.2 and ati-drivers tp 8.522-r2. Now keyboard and mouse don't work in X Pay attention to what the xorg-server ebuild tells you. It even beeps like crazy to get your attention. It tells you exactly what to do if those drivers stop working.

[gentoo-user] Re: do we have the package "ncurses-devel" or something like that?

2008-12-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Zhang Le wrote: On 10:34 Wed 03 Dec , Justin wrote: Zhang Le schrieb: If you need to find package name from file name, try e-file: http://li2z.cn/category/e-file/ The link is broken, I always love to promote this site: the site is temporarily down. unfornately it is not mine. http://p

[gentoo-user] Re: do we have the package "ncurses-devel" or something like that?

2008-12-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Zhang Le wrote: [...] But, AFAIK, they can only query packages already installed in your system. Aren't they? :) Oops, you're right, forgot about that.

[gentoo-user] Re: Curious pattern in log files from ssh...

2008-12-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Steve wrote: [...] Sure, I could use IPtables to block all these bad ports... or... I could disable password authentication entirely... but I keep thinking that there has to be something better I can do... any suggestions? I'm using DenyHosts to battle this. It adds the IPs to /etc/hosts.deny

[gentoo-user] Re: Curious pattern in log files from ssh...

2008-12-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Nikos Chantziaras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Steve wrote: [...] Sure, I could use IPtables to block all these bad ports... or... I could disable password authentication entirely... but I keep thinking that there has to be something be

[gentoo-user] Re: modules in use

2008-12-05 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 22:32:23 +0100, Sebastian Günther wrote: The third column of lsmod is headed with Used by and consists of a number and a list of modules which use it. Everything with a 0 is not used. Not true. Anything with a 0 is not used by another module. That's n

[gentoo-user] Re: modules in use

2008-12-06 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:51:02 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Not true. Anything with a 0 is not used by another module. That's not the same as not used. ath_pci 196472 0 So I am sending this over my wireless connection without using the wireless m

[gentoo-user] mcview (mc -v) stopped working after glib update

2008-12-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Weird problem this one. I updated to sys-libs/glibc-2.9_p20081201 (from 2.8_p20080602) and everything appears to be just fine. With one exception: viewing files in Midnight Commander's built-in viewer doesn't work anymore. Pressing F3 (View) does nothing. Calling `mcview` or `mc -v file` al

[gentoo-user] Re: mcview (mc -v) stopped working after glib update

2008-12-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Nikos Chantziaras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Weird problem this one. I updated to sys-libs/glibc-2.9_p20081201 (from 2.8_p20080602) and everything appears to be just fine. With one exception: viewing files in Midnight Commander'

[gentoo-user] Re: mcview (mc -v) stopped working after glib update

2008-12-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Nikos Chantziaras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Weird problem this one. I updated to sys-libs/glibc-2.9_p20081201 (from 2.8_p20080602) and everything appears to be just fine. With one exception: viewing files in Midnight Commander'

[gentoo-user] Re: mcview (mc -v) stopped working after glib update

2008-12-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Weird problem this one. I updated to sys-libs/glibc-2.9_p20081201 (from 2.8_p20080602) and everything appears to be just fine. With one exception: viewing files in Midnight Commander's built-in viewer doesn't work anymore. Pressing F3 (View) does nothing

[gentoo-user] Understanding slotting of KTorrent

2008-12-09 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
I don't "get" the slotting scheme of KTorrent: [I] net-p2p/ktorrent Available versions: (0) 2.2.7 2.2.8 (4.1) ~3.1.5 (3) ~3.1.5-r1 [M]~3.2_beta1 OK, 0 seems to be actually 3.5. 4.1 is KDE 4.1. But so is 3 too...

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] top posting

2008-12-09 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Indeed :) (Sorry, couldn't resist :P) Dale wrote: Justin wrote: Nicolas Sebrecht schrieb: On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:45:16PM +, Stroller wrote: I find a flow of quoting that is interrupted FAR less legible than the 3 short message se

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-10 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Harry Putnam wrote: [...] It worked just fine. But none of my attempts to bring the kernel up to date have worked. All failing with a error message something like: `/dev/sdb3 is not a valid device'. According to your screenshot, you don't even have an sdb. All the kernel sees is one hard di

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-10 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Harry Putnam wrote: Nikos Chantziaras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Harry Putnam wrote: [...] It worked just fine. But none of my attempts to bring the kernel up to date have worked. All failing with a error message something like: `/dev/sdb3 is not a valid device'. Accord

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-10 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Harry Putnam wrote: [...] About sdb3. In the following dmesg output (when booting with a working kernel-2.6.24-r8 I wondered if anyone can determine what driver is involved there. I couldn't really tell much from it other than the kernel sees it with no problem: ==

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-10 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Harry Putnam wrote: Nikos Chantziaras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] mptbase: ioc0: Initiating bringup ioc0: LSI53C1030 B0: Capabilities={Initiator} scsi4 : ioc0: LSI53C1030 B0, FwRev=h, Ports=1, MaxQ=128, IRQ=16 That's an LSI Fusion-MPT controller. Enable: Dev

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-10 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Harry Putnam wrote: Nikos Chantziaras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Harry Putnam wrote: Nikos Chantziaras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] mptbase: ioc0: Initiating bringup ioc0: LSI53C1030 B0: Capabilities={Initiator} scsi4 : ioc0: LSI53C1030 B0, FwRev=h, Ports=1, MaxQ

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Harry Putnam wrote: [...] I then tried copying as best I can from the working kernel config of 2.6.24-r8 by running menuconfig in that directory and genkernel --menuconfig all in the new kernel directory. I'd already tried the same thing but without genkernel... just calling make after getti

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: [...] Just to make sure you're doing it right... [...] Forgot to mention that no initrd is needed and the grub.conf should not have an inird line.

[gentoo-user] Re: ATI video card with water cooler

2008-12-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
James wrote: I've been looking for an ATI graphics card with a water cooling system built in. I'm very tired of listen to the roar of a video card fan. I believe Sapphire has those under the label "WaterCooled". HD3870X2 and HD4870 I think. Google for "Sapphire WaterCooled".

[gentoo-user] Re: ebuild for recent ATI driver, whom to go to?

2008-12-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Miguel Ramos wrote: 2008/12/11 Volker Armin Hemmann : But the result isn't very good. I have the following behaviour consistently: boot system, X starts fine, I close X on purpose, second time X doesn't start, receives signal 11, third time on starting X my system hangs badly and I have to press

[gentoo-user] Re: ebuild for recent ATI driver, whom to go to?

2008-12-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:16:59 +, Miguel Ramos wrote: I did put the lengthly list of files in package.keywords with ~amd64, but I'm not sure this is the beast approach in the long run. Make /etc/portage/package.keywords a directory, then run autounmask x11-base/xorg-se

[gentoo-user] Re: ebuild for recent ATI driver, whom to go to?

2008-12-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 12 December 2008 01:24:27 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: [...] Then did the above command. All it did was creating a file autounmask-xorg-server with this inside: # --- # BEGIN: x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3 # --- =x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3 ~amd64

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-15 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Mick wrote: On Thursday 11 December 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Clone that config: make cloneconfig How does this compare to make oldconfig? It doesn't, because it doesn't even exist. I meant "oldconfig" here :P (openSUSE has a cloneconfig target and I got it mixed up here. Sorry.)

[gentoo-user] Re: Tragic kernel building for vmware gentoo guest on WinXP

2008-12-15 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Mick wrote: On Thursday 11 December 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Clone that config: make cloneconfig How does this compare to make oldconfig? It doesn't, because it doesn't even exist. I meant "oldconfig" here :P (openSU

[gentoo-user] Keyboard layout switching with Alt+Shift

2008-12-16 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
In KDE 3.5.10, I can't switch keyboard layouts with Alt+Shift even though that option is enabled in the control center: Regional & Accessibility->Keyboard Layout ->Xkb Option->Layout Switching->[x] Alt+Shift change layout. The generated "Command" is: setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggl

[gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard layout switching with Alt+Shift

2008-12-17 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Mick wrote: On Wednesday 17 December 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: In KDE 3.5.10, I can't switch keyboard layouts with Alt+Shift even though that option is enabled in the control center: Regional & Accessibility->Keyboard Layout ->Xkb Option->Layout Switching->

[gentoo-user] depclean wants to wipe out KDE3

2008-12-19 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
emerge -av --depclean: kde-base/kopete selected: 3.5.10 protected: none omitted: 4.1.3 kde-base/kget selected: 3.5.10 protected: none omitted: 4.1.3 kde-base/kmenuedit selected: 3.5.10 protected: none omitted: 4.1.3 The lis

[gentoo-user] Re: depclean wants to wipe out KDE3

2008-12-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 20 December 2008 08:27:40 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: emerge -av --depclean: kde-base/kopete selected: 3.5.10 protected: none omitted: 4.1.3 kde-base/kget selected: 3.5.10 protected: none omitted: 4.1.3

[gentoo-user] Re: depclean wants to wipe out KDE3

2008-12-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 20 December 2008 11:53:05 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: You can start by giving the relevant information, like what exactly related to kde is in world?. Chances are you only have KDE there, and emerge will probably want to nuke all but the latest SLOT. Common

[gentoo-user] Re: depclean wants to wipe out KDE3

2008-12-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: [...] The reason is that KDE4 is a new product and has nothing to do with KDE3 other than the name. And another reason is the problem I'm describing in this very thread which should have not been a problem if KDE4 had its own tree. Now I'm required t

[gentoo-user] Re: depclean wants to wipe out KDE3

2008-12-21 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 06:34:39 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Another problem, this time not technical. I just don't want many of those packages in my world file. I want to use depclean and have those packages removed when the package that depends on them is also re

[gentoo-user] Re: depclean wants to wipe out KDE3

2008-12-21 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: kde-base/kate kde-base/kdebase-startkde kde-base/ksmserver These were dependencies and therefore were not in my world file. If they get unmerge, things will break. KDevelop will break without Kate, and KDE 3.5 itself will break without the other two. :P OK

[gentoo-user] Re: depclean wants to wipe out KDE3

2008-12-21 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 20 December 2008 14:35:13 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 20 December 2008 11:53:05 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: kdeprefix has nothing to do with KDE3. It's not needed. It's only needed to have many KDE4 versions at the

[gentoo-user] Re: depclean wants to wipe out KDE3

2008-12-21 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Willie Wong wrote: On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 02:18:27AM +0200, Penguin Lover Nikos Chantziaras squawked: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: kde-base/kate kde-base/kdebase-startkde kde-base/ksmserver These were dependencies and therefore were not in my world file. If they get unmerge, things will

[gentoo-user] Re: depclean wants to wipe out KDE3

2008-12-22 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Dale wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 03:57:22 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: And how is putting KDE4 in /usr/kde going to help in this? What difference does it make if the wrong path is chosen? Surely, it doesn't matter a bit how that path looks like if it's

[gentoo-user] Re: depclean wants to wipe out KDE3

2008-12-22 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 03:57:22 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: And how is putting KDE4 in /usr/kde going to help in this? What difference does it make if the wrong path is chosen? Surely, it doesn't matter a bit how that path looks like if it's wrong. If a

[gentoo-user] Re: depclean wants to wipe out KDE3

2008-12-22 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 03:57:22 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: And how is putting KDE4 in /usr/kde going to help in this? What difference does it make if the wrong path is chosen? Surely, it doesn't matter a bit how that path

[gentoo-user] Re: depclean wants to wipe out KDE3

2008-12-22 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:37:08 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Because /usr/bin will always be in your PATH, so even if you are running a KDE 3 session, KDE4 programs will be loaded. Why would they? /usr/kde/3.5/bin comes first in KDE 3 sessions and last in KDE 4

[gentoo-user] Re: depclean wants to wipe out KDE3

2008-12-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:04:06 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Why would they? /usr/kde/3.5/bin comes first in KDE 3 sessions and last in KDE 4 sessions. There's no problem at all. Not here % echo $PATH /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/i486-pc-linux-gn

[gentoo-user] Re: depclean wants to wipe out KDE3

2008-12-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:04:06 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Why would they? /usr/kde/3.5/bin comes first in KDE 3 sessions and last in KDE 4 sessions. There's no problem at all. Not here % echo $PATH /usr/local/bin:/us

[gentoo-user] "Unknown media type" errors

2008-12-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
I get a lot of these lately: * Updating desktop mime database ... * Updating shared mime info database ... Unknown media type in type 'all/all' Unknown media type in type 'all/allfiles' Unknown media type in type 'uri/mms' Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmst' Unknown media type in

[gentoo-user] Re: Orphan packages

2008-12-24 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Dale wrote: Leonid Podolny wrote: Hi, I'm sure that this issue has already been discussed here, but I can't find any such discussions. Anyway, is there an easy way to find orphan packages, i.e. installed packages that don't have repository behind? For example, if I used to have a layman overlay

[gentoo-user] Re: Fragmentation of my drives. Curious mostly

2008-12-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: [...] what would be the best way to defrag it? By not defragging it. [...] I don't buy into that argument and never did. Every few months I copy the whole HD to another one and then back to counter fragmentation (ext3) and

[gentoo-user] Re: Fragmentation of my drives. Curious mostly

2008-12-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: OK, I once again verified that fragmentation seems to be a big issue even on Linux. I just migrated to ext4, and in order to do that I had to rsync, format and rsync back. The result is similar to the last time I did this (over 8 months ago): emerge

[gentoo-user] Re: Fragmentation of my drives. Curious mostly

2008-12-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 26 December 2008 21:49:02 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: OK, I once again verified that fragmentation seems to be a big issue even on Linux. I just migrated to ext4, and in order to do that I had to rsync, format and rsync back. The result is similar to the last time

[gentoo-user] Re: Fragmentation of my drives. Curious mostly

2008-12-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I already did the rsync/format thing a few times over the last years, and the results are always the same: very fast filesystem for about a month, then it starts getting slower over time. I have to say that after my recent transfer, my login got a whole

[gentoo-user] How do you deal with overlays and emerge -u world?

2008-12-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
There are quite a few overlays that offer helpful ebuilds. kde-testing for example is one of them. However, I don't use it (and others) because I can't find a way of stopping the hordes of chaos that appear when doing "emerge -u world". Is there really no way to somehow deal with this? Righ

[gentoo-user] Re: How do you deal with overlays and emerge -u world?

2008-12-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:30:56 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: There are quite a few overlays that offer helpful ebuilds. kde-testing for example is one of them. However, I don't use it (and others) because I can't find a way of stopping the hordes of chaos t

[gentoo-user] Re: Thanks and bye for now

2008-12-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
James wrote: Dale gmail.com> writes: Watch him slowly convert them over to Gentoo. o_O Then he'll be back and asking who has a server like theirs. lol Thats a FACT! Many workstation users never discover the joy of running gentoo based servers. They are really easy to maintain. If more f

[gentoo-user] Re: Thanks and bye for now

2008-12-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Norberto Bensa wrote: On Saturday December 27 2008 15:14:26 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I run Debian on my server because it's "set and forget". With Gentoo at home, I have to take good care of it to keep it going. Why? Does Gentoo forget how to do something? Why can'

[gentoo-user] Re: Thanks and bye for now

2008-12-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Mick wrote: On Saturday 27 December 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Norberto Bensa wrote: Why? Does Gentoo forget how to do something? Why can't you just "set and forget" your Gentoo boxes? Gentoo is difficult to install. Well, it's not really difficult - but it takes

[gentoo-user] Re: Thanks and bye for now

2008-12-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On my Gentoo at home, yes. The mouse cursor skips, scrolling gets skippy/laggy too. I have a dual core e6...@3.33ghz with 4GB DDR2 RAM. I have to use version 2.6.23-gentoo-r8 for my kernel or it does the same thing. Someone mentioned that it is a

[gentoo-user] Re: Thanks and bye for now

2008-12-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Norberto Bensa wrote: Quoting Nikos Chantziaras : Why? Does Gentoo forget how to do something? Why can't you just "set and forget" your Gentoo boxes? Gentoo is difficult to install. For who? And BTW, that doesn't answer the question. Huh? I answered it right nex

[gentoo-user] Re: Thanks and bye for now

2008-12-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Norberto Bensa wrote: Quoting Nikos Chantziaras : On my Gentoo at home, yes. The mouse cursor skips, scrolling gets skippy/laggy too. I have a dual core e6...@3.33ghz with 4GB DDR2 RAM. Just like me, but I have it set to default clock: 2.4GHz. Beyond that, it gets somewhat funny :-/ I

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel config hell

2008-12-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Harry Putnam wrote: Summary of request for help: Are there hardcore kernel builders in the house who can steer me to a faster way of figuring out what the installed modules do... for sure. Well, my bit of wisdom here: Don't use modules. Do a "make menuconfig", disable everything you d

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel config hell

2008-12-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Samstag, 27. Dezember 2008 20:27:37 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: Harry Putnam wrote: Summary of request for help: Are there hardcore kernel builders in the house who can steer me to a faster way of figuring out what the installed modules do... for sure. Well, my

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel config hell

2008-12-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Harry Putnam wrote: Nikos Chantziaras writes: [...] Well, my bit of wisdom here: Don't use modules. Do a "make menuconfig", disable everything you don't need, and compile everything you need in-kernel instead of as a module. I'd say the "disable everythin

[gentoo-user] Re: provided kernel

2008-12-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Simon wrote: Hi there, long ago i installed a 2.6.24 kernel in /usr/src manually. I had added the line "sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6.24" (without quotes) to the file /etc/portage/profile/package.provided. There is no kernel in /var/lib/portage/world... This may be related to the fact i r

[gentoo-user] Re: Thanks and bye for now

2008-12-28 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 27 December 2008 21:13:49 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I have this in my make.conf: PORTAGE_IONICE_COMMAND="ionice -c 3 -p \${PID}" Helped a bit. But still the GUI (KDE 3.5.10) gets pretty laggy. Just a few hours ago I updated to gcc-4.3.2-r1. Even

[gentoo-user] Re: Thanks and bye for now

2008-12-29 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Dale wrote: [...] I would assume I don't have evdev here. Since I asked equery for anything with dev in it, it should have listed it if it was installed. That is why I ask if there was something new. I can't say that I have ever heard of evdev before. For X, it's the x11-drivers/xf86-input-

[gentoo-user] Re: Thanks and bye for now

2008-12-29 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Dale wrote: [...] I would assume I don't have evdev here. Since I asked equery for anything with dev in it, it should have listed it if it was installed. That is why I ask if there was something new. I can't say that I have ever heard of ev

[gentoo-user] Re: Thanks and bye for now

2008-12-29 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Norberto Bensa wrote: Quoting Nikos Chantziaras : It got worse with kernel 2.6.28, btw, especially mouse cursor movement. It gets stuck and skips very noticeably. Fortunately, it's not a point yet where I would describe it as unusable, but if the trend continues, desktop will be to

[gentoo-user] Re: Extremely slow sata with IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family)

2008-12-30 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
David Bourgeois wrote: Hi, I have much trouble to get sata working with an Intel 82801I (ICH9 Family) interface from a Compaq dc5800. The minimal CD 2008.0 uses the ata driver and not sata so harddisks are registered as /dev/hda. After installation, my custom kernel does the same and I had to di

[gentoo-user] Re: Extremely slow sata with IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family)

2008-12-30 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: [...] Try enabling "AHCI" in the BIOS (search for it in the SATA/IDE settings) and enable "<*> AHCI SATA support" in the kernel. Another note: Make sure you *first* build a kernel with AHCI support and *then* change the option in the BIO

[gentoo-user] Re: Extremely slow sata with IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family)

2008-12-30 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
David Bourgeois wrote: Thanks Nikos, I had a look in the bios, couldn't find AHCI (it's HP Compaq BIOS, not very complete) Glad it works, but in any case, search the BIOS for things like "SATA" or "Native". Usually the choices are: 1. IDE emulation, Compatible 2. RAID 3. AHCI, Native, SATA

[gentoo-user] Re: Extremely slow sata with IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family)

2008-12-30 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Stroller wrote: On 30 Dec 2008, at 13:43, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: ... It seems you have set up the SATA controller to do (sub-optimal) IDE/PATA emulation rather than native AHCI. Try enabling "AHCI" in the BIOS (search for it in the SATA/IDE settings) and enable "<*> A

[gentoo-user] [OT] High-pitched sound from inside the PC when opening menus

2008-12-31 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
This is a question that is off topic of course, but I'm not sure *where* it would be on-topic. Considering that Gentoo users are also often so-called "enthusiasts", I'll drop the question here ;) In KDE (3), when enabling the "fade" effect for menus, clicking on a menu results in a faint, hig

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] High-pitched sound from inside the PC when opening menus

2008-12-31 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Matt Harrison wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: This is a question that is off topic of course, but I'm not sure *where* it would be on-topic. Considering that Gentoo users are also often so-called "enthusiasts", I'll drop the question here ;) In KDE (3), when enabling t

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