[gentoo-user] The time has come (udev and kernel dependencies)
Hi,
I have a Gentoo install on my Macbook Pro ,which kernel I don't
upgrade often, to say the least, because I use it for work and I don't
have much time to tinker with all of it as I had once...
So it has settled with the first kernel which made things working,
which was late 2007 2.6.24-rc6
However emerge -puv world these days tells me:
('ebuild', '/', 'sys-fs/udev-141', 'merge') pulled in by
sys-fs/udev required by ('installed', '/',
'net-wireless/bluez-utils-3.36', 'nomerge')
sys-fs/udev required by ('ebuild', '/',
'sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.29-r5', 'merge')
sys-fs/udev required by ('ebuild', '/',
'sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6.29.5', 'merge')
(and 4 more)
Does this mean that I need to install a new kernel to run udev-141 ?
Ok, I should run a new kernel *anyway* ... at this point the question
is: when I update the kernel, I can use the old udev-124-r1 until I
install the new one?
I googled but the only clear reference I found was in Polish, that is
not exactly a language I am accustomed with...
Thanks!
m.
[gentoo-user] Odd USB external hard disk does not play nice with KDE
Hi, I just bought a novel, 1.5 Tb USB external HD. The kernel recognizes it nice and well, and I can mount and unmount it as root, lookin' its content etc. without problems. But KDE refuses to see it as a new media. It does not even appear in the media:/. The odd thing is that it is the first and so far only external drive with this behaviour. Other USB drives (I have several) work nice, appear in the desktop and KDE ask me what to do with them. What can be odd about that drive and how can I try to diagnose it? thanks, m.
[gentoo-user] Re: Odd USB external hard disk does not play nice with KDE
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:48 AM, brullo nullabrullonu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just bought a novel, 1.5 Tb USB external HD. The kernel recognizes it nice and well, and I can mount and unmount it as root, lookin' its content etc. without problems. But KDE refuses to see it as a new media. It does not even appear in the media:/. The odd thing is that it is the first and so far only external drive with this behaviour. Other USB drives (I have several) work nice, appear in the desktop and KDE ask me what to do with them. Ok. It seems I have been lured into buying a cheap Seagate brick-in-a-box. I will return it tomorrow morning and take a WD. m.
Re: [gentoo-user] [obscenely OT] A good SMTP server?
Hmmm, I run my own postfix, but I use the virgin SMTP server as a relay host. I don't get my email addresses mangled I don't think this is a solution. I am using a laptop, and how can I reach my postfix server (assuming that I have another machine to use as it, which I don't have) from everywhere? In any case it is kinda insane that one has to build a SMTP server to workaround this.
[gentoo-user] [obscenely OT] A good SMTP server?
Hi, Since when I live in UK, I have troubles with my SMTP servers. It seems that everyone has the nice habit of changing my header/sender. At least: - The Virginmedia one changes the sender with its own mail address - The Gmail one does the same. Since I have several email addresses for a reason, and I *don't want* people writing me to one to write (or, in some cases, even know) my other ones, this situation is really annoying, since it makes moot to use a single email client. Even worse, it messes with several mailing lists. I tried to google about it but I do not trust advertised free smtp servers, and I don't know where to bang my head on. Any advice would be nice. Thanks, bn
Re: [gentoo-user] [obscenely OT] A good SMTP server?
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Neil Bothwickn...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 15:56:33 +0100, brullo nulla wrote: Since when I live in UK, I have troubles with my SMTP servers. It seems that everyone has the nice habit of changing my header/sender. At least: - The Virginmedia one changes the sender with its own mail address - The Gmail one does the same. Virgin and Google are not everyone, no matter how hard they try to be. I know, but they are the two from which I know I can get an SMTP service: one because is my provider, the other because I have several gmail accounts. Yet, I agree that everyone is an exaggeration due to poor sampling. But when I was in Italy, no ISP SMTP dared to mess with my email fields. Where are the good ones? thanks!
Re: [gentoo-user][ot] mail links as footnotes
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/12/2 b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: May I ask why many people on MLs use to write links as footnotes instead that inside the mail text? I suspect it is some netiquette issue, but I can't find info on that and I find it mildly confusing. Because http://some-vvverrryy-long-link/some-page.html looks terrible too? Not to me. I am accustomed to see links inside of text in webpages, so there is nothing strange in what you posted. Since it seems only an aestethic preference, I'll continue to post links in-text when appropriate (tinyurl'ing long links possibly). Thanks, m.
Re: [gentoo-user][ot] mail links as footnotes
This reminds me of the text/html debate. If you put links in the body and some guru that has the answer doesn't like links in the body, they may not read your post and you could be left without a answer for a while longer. Or worse yet, if it is some software that is rarely used, they may be the only one here that uses the software and has the answer. Well, I could do the same and erase any message with urls as footnotes, since I dislike them. So it's the same thing, reversed. Trashing emails just because they're not formatted as you like them is a highly idiotic thing to do. I don't like top-posting for example, but I do not trash top-posted mails -at worst, I explain the user why top-posting looks bad. I prefer html messages myself but a lot of people here don't like them so I send text. Some users even have filters that sends html to /dev/null which means they don't ever even get seen or read. This is something you may want to consider when you send something. I send text myself too usually (don't know when I'm using gmail from the web like now). However if I receive html mail, my mail client is set up to make it look like it's only text, so I don't really see the difference. Also, I have ran into tinyurl not working or if I look up a old post, it may have expired or something and the link goes nowhere. So guess what, I don't click on tinyurl stuff much. Good point. But again, while sending HTML mail to a non-HTML enabled mail client results in annoying garbage(*), or while top posting can make a long thread impossible to follow, there is no reason not to read even a loong URL in the text flow. So using footnotes is purely aestethical -and even if I agree it's more good-looking, it's much less practical for my personal usage. So I want an ecosystem with URLs in the text body, therefore I will use them :) This does not mean I drop mails formatted in the other way in the trashbin. This just means we live happily with the differences, and let natural selection select what fits more. (*)There is also to ponder the fact that I find quite amusing that someone is using a non-HTML-enabled mail client in 2008, and I would like to know about that. I don't like html mail myself, but *actively refusing* to deal with it , it's something escaping my comprehension. Thoughts to ponder. Surely, thanks. m.
[gentoo-user] pommed ebuild fails
Compiling pommed 1.20 on a Macbook Pro: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -pthread -lrt -ldbus-1 -lasound -laudiofile -lm -lconfuse -lpci -lzpommed.o cd_eject.o evdev.o conffile.o audio.o evloop.o dbus.o power.o beep.o video.o mactel/x1600_backlight.o mactel/gma950_backlight.o mactel/nv8600mgt_backlight.o mactel/kbd_backlight.o mactel/ambient.o mactel/acpi.o /usr/lib/libpci.a /lib/libz.so -o pommed dbus.o: In function `mbpdbus_toggle_watch': /var/tmp/portage/app-laptop/pommed-1.20/work/pommed-1.20/pommed/dbus.c:1018: undefined reference to `dbus_watch_get_unix_fd' dbus.o: In function `mbpdbus_remove_watch': /var/tmp/portage/app-laptop/pommed-1.20/work/pommed-1.20/pommed/dbus.c:974: undefined reference to `dbus_watch_get_unix_fd' dbus.o: In function `mbpdbus_add_watch': /var/tmp/portage/app-laptop/pommed-1.20/work/pommed-1.20/pommed/dbus.c:911: undefined reference to `dbus_watch_get_unix_fd' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [pommed] Error 1 * * ERROR: app-laptop/pommed-1.20 failed. * Call stack: * ebuild.sh, line 49: Called src_compile * environment, line 2056: Called die * The specific snippet of code: * emake CC=$(tc-getCC) OFLIB=1 || die emake pommed failed; * The die message: * emake pommed failed * emerge --info: Portage 2.1.4.4 (default-linux/x86/2007.0/desktop, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.6.1-r0, 2.6.24-rc6 i686) = System uname: 2.6.24-rc6 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7700 @ 2.40GHz Timestamp of tree: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:33:01 + app-shells/bash: 3.2_p33 dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.33-r1 dev-lang/python: 2.4.4-r13 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6 sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.11.1 sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.18.1-r2 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.61-r2 sys-devel/automake: 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10.1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.18-r1 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.0-r4 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.26 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.23-r3 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-O2 -march=nocona -pipe CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/web2c /etc/udev/rules.d CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=nocona -pipe DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://de-mirror.org/distro/gentoo/ http://files.gentoo.org http://ftp.uoi.gr/mirror/OS/gentoo/ http://ftp.cc.uoc.gr/mirrors/linux/gentoo/ http://mirror.ing.unibo.it/gentoo/ http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/os/linux/gentoo http://gentoo.tiscali.nl/ LINGUAS=it en en_GB MAKEOPTS=-j3 PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/portage/local/layman/pro-audio /usr/local/portage SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=X aac acl acpi aiglx alsa avi berkdb cairo cddb cdr cli cracklib crypt css cups dbus divx4linux dri dvd dvdr dvdread emboss encode esd evo fam ffmpeg firefox flac fortran ftp gcj gdbm gif gimp glitz gnustep gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 hal iconv imagemagick ipv6 isdnlog jabber jack java jpeg kde kerberos ladspa ldap lm_sensors mad midi mikmod mng mp3 mpeg mplayer mudflap ncurses nls nodrm nptl nptlonly nsplugin nvidia ogg opengl openmp oss pam pcre pdf perl pmu png ppds pppd python qt qt3 qt3support qt4 quicktime readline reflection samba sdl session spell spl ssl subtitles svg svga tcpd theora tiff tk truetype unicode usb v4l v4l2 vorbis wifi win32codecs wmf x86 xml xorg xv xvid zlib ALSA_CARDS=hda-intel ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol APACHE2_MODULES=actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias ELIBC=glibc INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse KERNEL=linux LCD_DEVICES=bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text LINGUAS=it en en_GB USERLAND=GNU VIDEO_CARDS=vesa fbdev nv nvidia Unset: CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS forums.gentoo.org and bugzilla seem silent. any hint? m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools?
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:00:39 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote: b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Iliev ha scritto: How about if you remake your site and explain everything there. What happened (chronologically and in detail) and provide evidence. Remake it to be clear with simple sentences and easy for finding the information. Then provide means (as web forum, mailing list etc) for the visitors to post their comments and questions. After all that is ready it would absolutely acceptable to participate in this and every other public list as a normal member and put links to your site in your signature. How about that? I want that too. I back the proposal of Iliev. Joerg, why don't you do that so that you can settle all this in the most informative way possible? I pointed you to the FAQ and I asked you to tell me what questions remain unanswered. Sorry, never saw the message in which you ask what more info to publish. Perhaps I didn't receive it. I am sorry but I can only extend information if people tell me which information they like to see. Actually you can figure out which are the most FAQ from this thread, but let me help you for the start. Please, publish detailed information for the following events in chronological order: - When the first contact with the attackers took place and what was the reason for that contact - When the first attack took place and what (you suppose if you don't know for sure) was the reason for the attack. Describe the attack itself - what were the actions of those who attacked you - When other attacks (if any) took place. Describe them. - When you changed the license. For what reason. Explain, please, why there is no problem to mix GPL with CDDL (for me personally it is the most interesting part) - When the fork was launched - The exact statement of the lawyers you consulted - Any evidence (e-mails, posts to web forums, blogs, publications, etc) or reference to that evidence that you can provide That's what I could think off for the moment, but I'm sure others will fill in the gaps I've left. Let me add: do not only *describe*. Post all *sources* that you have. Emails, chats, whatever. Otherwise it's just your word vs someone else, and we cannot decide. Give people the *facts*, and everything will come up by itself. m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools?
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually you can figure out which are the most FAQ from this thread, but let me help you for the start. Please, publish detailed information for the following events in chronological order: Please explain why you don't read the FAQ? All your questions are answered in the FAQ. If you don't read the available information, it seems that you like to turn this thread into a thread where you spread your FUD. The FAQ (I assume you're talking about http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/linux-dist.html ) only contain basic information on your side, almost without a single reference that shows me the actual full text of the email exchanges etc. supporting what you say. The FAQ is not in chronological order and it is even self-contradicting in chronological details (e.g. it starts with In autumn 2005 and early spring 2006, a group of Debian maintainers started to attack the cdrtools project. The attacks have been based on the fact that cdrtools was licensed under the GPL. then, in the final part of the document, you talk about the UTF story: In fact, this happened around y2004 [...] Now these people have been in trouble and needed an excuse for their behavior. -from this it seems implicit the problems started in 2004). Only explanation you give for all what was happening is a commercial-distributions-are-evil conspiracy theory (which maybe is true, but I am again waiting for evidence -the theory is quite weak, since forking an essential desktop software seems *much worse* than rewriting UTF8 support, and they could have inserted their unofficial patch into their packages even if you refused it upstream, if they felt their UTF8 patch was important). Anyway, I'm sure you can fix the FAQ and provide the full disclosed evidence, and everyone will be happier. m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could learn to be direct and tell people what you mean. You asked in a missleading way on a list where hostile statements from other people have already been seen. As I said: less than 20% of human communication is done via words. If I did see you, I would have known whether your non-direct posting was meant to have an underlying hostile base or not. As I cannot see you, the only way to avoid missunderstanding is to use unambiguous words. Tip: do not assume people on a mailing list have an underlying hostile base unless they are explicitly hostile. Otherwise you're just putting fuel on flames. m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] unstable glib pulled down, but why?
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 29 June 2008, b.n. wrote: By the way: I find the fact emerge -pv just fails in those cases extremly annoying. Shoudn't it report the error, skip offending packages but let me see what can be happily merged independently of that? Seems a reasonable question, but will be almost impossible to implement, as how would you define a package that can be happily merged independently of a blocking package? portage is software, it isn't intelligent so it doesn't know how to answer that. I admit it's annoying though. The block will in many cases affect only a branch of the dependency tree. For example, in this case it is all blocked because glibmm wants a masked glib. Portage knows that glibmm wants the masked glib, so it knows that glibmm causes the trouble. So it could in principle give me what is to update except for glibmm and glib - and give me the error about those two. Am I missing something? m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [wildly OT]advice for a wireless antenna?
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008-05-10, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm talking about the USB wireless adapter (I don't think I can connect the antenna to my laptop directly), not the passphrase key... Ah. I've got a Hawking HWUG1 USB WiFi adapter that works fine with Gentoo (I had to download driver source from somewhere). It's got an R-SMA connector for use with external antennas. I've had good luck using these together: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164015 Yup, that's the one I have. That's a good price on it, too. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164110 I've also got one of those antennas and it's exellent. It provides a little (1-2dB) more gain as my double-biquad reflector, but it's a lot cheaper (assuming your time is worth much), and a bit easier to use, since it will sit nicely on a table or windowsill. Seems a nice combo, indeed. A curiosity: by itself, the Hawking USB adapter has more or less sensitivity than the simple Airport glued to my Macbook motherboard? m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [wildly OT]advice for a wireless antenna?
Hi, I have a Gentoo-powered Macbook. I would like to improve its wireless receiver capabilities, to be able to connect to weak wireless networks for example in my laboratory (I would have legal access to the university network, but in my building the signal is extremly weak... yes, welcome to Italian infrastructures). I would like to experiment with a cantenna or something like that. What do you advice for it? Usb wireless key to use, advices on construction, etc.? Anything. Thanks a lot m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [wildly OT]advice for a wireless antenna?
I've had very good luck with home-made biquad reflectors: http://martybugs.net/wireless/biquad/ http://www.trevormarshall.com/biquad.htm I've build both a single and a double biquad using methods similar to the first page. I use thin-walled brass tubing instead of copper. Thanks, I'll have a look. What do you advice for it? Usb wireless key to use, You get the key from the network admin, don't you? I'm talking about the USB wireless adapter (I don't think I can connect the antenna to my laptop directly), not the passphrase key... m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] expat upgrade, kdelibs: circular problem?
Ok, you all can stop ranting about ebuilds etc. being broken. :) I found the culprit, it seems something wrong in the kdelibs building. Basically, when kdelibs builds dcopidl, it happily *says* oh, this would need libXft, that in turn has a broken link to libexpat.so.0. But who cares, let's go along with it! instead of stopping and telling me that libXft is broken. I have no more the relevant compilation output snippet, but that's the meaning. So, I just emerged libXft, fixing the expat link, and everything went pretty smooth. Now I have the problem that Thunderbird starts, but no window comes out, but it's a different stuff... m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] expat upgrade, kdelibs: circular problem?
Hi folks, I am finally getting through the expat update. I am currently stuck at kdelibs for what looks like a circular problem (or a linking problem). Forums and google tell me of problems with kdelibs and expat upgrade, but mostly qt3 related -this seems not to be the case. The ebuild stops with: ../dcop/dcopidl/dcopidl ./ksycoca.h ksycoca.kidl || ( rm -f ksycoca.kidl ; false ) ../dcop/dcopidl/dcopidl: error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory So I equeried dcopidl, and dcopidl belongs to kdelibs itself! What does it mean? kdelibs needs a working kdelibs itself to be built (very strange)? Or when it compiles dcopidl, fails to link it against the new expat? Or I failed at finding the dcopidl ebuild? Thanks for your help, M. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is my hard drive sick?
But I was thinking: if my old drive is 200 Gb and my new drive is 320 Gb, what happens to the partition table? That is, the old partition table will refer to a 200 Gb disk, on a 320 Gb disk. What happens to the 120 Gb left? Are they recognized as an empty partition? Are they left unrecognized? Maybe I should just dd the MBR and then repartition the disk and use cp for the rest. You'll need to fdisk it with a LiveCD and delete the old small partition, then create a new one in its place occupying the rest of the new larger disk. *BE VERY CAREFUL* to start the new partition *exactly* where the old one starts. Finally, reboot (to read the new partition table) and resize the fs to fit the expanded available physical space. Hmm. Guess I'll just dd the 512-mb grub bootloader and then proceed by copying everything in new partitions, all from a livecd. m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]advice for a wireless router
On 10/29/07, Ophidian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the area of wired switches, I have found that technology has matured and you get pretty much the same performance (100% bandwith) from any switch (I paid $12 for some of my switches). I wouldn't necessarily recommend it for enterprise-level switching (on the other hand, I also plan to use it for some later this year). However, I don't know whether this applies to wireless. I bought a dirt-cheap Belkin AP a few years ago and found it adequate, but the configuration paradigm was bundled (windoze-only) software. The one gotcha with the different brands is that some of them use cheaper parts that can't handle as many connections/open ports and can thus get overloaded. You most often see this sort of behaviour with Bittorrent, but I've also done it to a switch when I had a bookmark folder of 15ish links (webcomics) and clicked Open In Tabs in Firefox. It tends to be hit or miss. Previously, Netgear has had a good reputation, but my only experience with their wireless routers has been poor, with the one my girlfriend got (sadly at my suggestion) flaking out pretty severely whenever a P2P application looked at it funny or an app like Adium/Pidgin opened too many ports when connecting. The solution was always to unplug/replug to force it to reboot. One decent resource to steer you in the right direction may be http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Bad_routers. Note however that when it lists the Linksys stuff, that's for the stock firmware, a number of them can run custom stuff like dd-wrt. I think I will settle for this: Linksys Gateway Wireless Wrt54g Let me know... m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT]advice for a wireless router
On 10/29/07, Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you really need router functionality? If not, I've had tremendous success with SENAO brand WAPs... namely http://www.wlansolution.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=NCB%2D3220 Excellent, if all you really need is 802.11b or g and basic WAP features. Setup is via web browserand it delivers 400mw of power. Goes through most anything and makes just about all other name brand stuff look dismally weak... [...] Oh... almost forgot, it's a linux appliance and supports remote syslog feature. Thanks. Looks beautiful, but no way I spend 100€ on a WAP. The Linksys is a router too, and costs roughly 65€. Router functionality may be useful for me in the future (If there was a WAP for 20€, I'd have took the WAP, but it seems its' not the case, apart from the Fonera rubbish). My home is little (it's basically a 2-rooms little apartment), so I guess extra power is not really needed... However thanks for the tip! m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA hell : master channel permanently at zero volume, no sound
b.n. ha scritto: I think I have to try with the Portage alsa drivers. Ok, alsa-driver does not compile. Now I feel really lost. But the error isn't I won't compile., isn't it? With the information you provided (not), I'm currently lost, too :-) Yes, I know. But I already checked on Google, and the error seems to be related to kernel / alsa-drivers incompatibility, so I'm stuck. There is a little suggestion I have to try, however. If you decide to compile external ALSA drivers, you have to make sure that your kernel isn't configured for internal ALSA drivers. It has, however, to be configured for basic sound support I know that. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?
I have an old but functional ATI Radeon 9200SE. Won't it work anymore? If there's something better, with decent 3D supported and onboard, let me know... emm.. since most boards don't have agp anymore. No, it won't. And even if it works.. I am not sure that the 9200SE would be really faster than todays onboard solutions... OK. I didn't know that agp has been dropped (I really am not into hardware, that's why I'm writing). So is everything PCI? What kind of videocard should I look for? IIRC, Intel onboard videocards were well supported open source... m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?
On 8/21/07, Alan E. Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might add to avoid using on board video or video cards like my own, an NVIDIA based LE 6200, that uses system RAM. Even if you aren't doing games. You are using only 1GB of RAM. Ok, so the specs that are coming out for the motherboard are: - amd x2 (what model of that? the brisbane? something that heats not too much would be better...) - supported Intel onboard video card with its own video RAM - good supported onboard audio with 5.1 surround What are the best matching choices you are aware of? And what about the cpu cooling fan? Thanks, m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -pv world output: strange differences after Portage upgrade
On second thought this does make sense. Portage 2.1.2 allows an upgrade within the same slot despite the block. And the reason it doesn't get pulled in by `emerge -pv world` is because dbus isn't in world and the later version isn't required by anything in world. You need to use --update to get direct dependencies upgraded or --deep to get all dependencies upgraded to the latest version. Just to close this entirely dbus-0.62-r2 has had most of it's keywords dropped. This means if you type: # emerge -pv =sys-apps/dbus-0.62-r2 you'll likely get a masked by: missing keyword message. So again bug #48195 explains why dbus-0.62-r2 is able to satisfy dependencies on dbus because it's installed with Portage 2.1.2 but isn't able to satisfy it with Portage 2.1.1 because it's not installable. :) Ok. Now the question is: is the new dbus really installable indeed? I think yes from your explanation, but I want to be triple-sure. (In fact, a self-blocking packages looked very odd to me, but...) (and why has been 0.62-r2 been hard masked so fast?) m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 100% CPU usage with no processes to blame?
Most likely you only looked at user cpu % and neglected to list the system and niced times as well. p.s. golden rule: ps lies. top lies. free lies. Don't believe the readings they give, rather interpret them in context. sob. it's not the first time I hear this. What should I believe to really know my system state? m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] knotes: cannot move around notes
I just tried this, same effect here. But you can move windows in XFCE (and many other window managers) by clicking anywhere inside the window, with the Alt key pressed. BTW, the right mouse button resizes windows then. Uh, didn't know this trick. I'll try as soon as I'm back home. Did you try xpad? It's gtk+-based, so there should be no problems with xfce. Seems to be quite lightweight and similar to what you're looking for. No, I didn't know about it. I'll try it too. Thank you! m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] knotes: cannot move around notes
Since knotes and xpad are being kicked around... Does anyone know of a light weight knotes style app that multiple users can access via a single server backend? I'm looking for such a solution. For this aim I use a web-based notes service: http://www.aypwip.org/webnote/ but sure it's less handy that a knotes-style thing. m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc 3.4.x -- 4.1.x : a couple of questions
Dunno about gcc-4.2, you'll have to look at the gnu roadmap to get a hint of when they think it'll move closer to a release OK. Not at all necessary. The kernel is a free standing block of C code and depends only on itself, so ABI issues with other apps simply don;t happen. As long as the kernel and all it's modules were compiled with the same compiler you will always be fine. (There are exceptions of course but with that rule of thumb you can't go wrong) Yes, but if I keep my 3.4.x compiled kernel and I recompile modules in Portage with 4.1, there will be problems, maybe (for example, the vmmon module of vmware-player). Well, I think I'll recompile. I have other reasons to do it. Make sure any kernel modules you may have that are not in portage also get recompiled. Sure (I shouldn't have). I guess also programs not in portage will have to be recompiled. Thanks again, m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc 3.4.x -- 4.1.x : a couple of questions
On 1/19/07, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm, yes that's correct. emerge -e world will recompile vmware-modules, which will cause problems as you spotted. Kernel recompile is thus warranted OK, now it's fully clear. Other apps might be different. Professional audio stuff comes to mind, That's exactly my case... I use the self-compiled SVN build of LMMS. Thanks everyone for help. This weekend I'll go for the build. m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [partially OT] USB wifi adapters that are supported out of the box?
Hi, We are going to put a wireless network in a new building in my lab. This is just a temporary/backup solution, so the boss had asked to buy USB wifi adapters (instead of PCI receivers) that eventually can be easily plugged and removed. There are a couple of Linux machines (a Kubuntu 6.06 box and a Debian Sarge box) that should be made working, but I also hope to have a Gentoo box on it soon, so it's not totally off topic :) Therefore, I'd like to know what USB adapters to buy that don't give too much headaches in configuring and working. I tried googling a bit but all what I found is confused and outdated (2004, 2005 at most) information. Thanks, M. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [partially OT] USB wifi adapters that are supported out of the box?
Edimax USB adaptors use the zd1211 driver, which is in the kernel now. In the kernel now what does it means? from what kernel version? I would need something supported even by a 2.6.12 kernel... m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I use 2.6.14 and remove udev and go back to devfs
Correction: The config options have been removed, not just commented out. The devfs code is still there. You mean there's still devfs in 2.6.14, but it is hidden? What's the sense of this? m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] System Locking Up
Last time I had these locks up it was a dying power suppy fault. Dying RAM or mobos are another common cause. Check your memory with memtest86 overnight, as already suggested. If memtest86 gives no errors, it's probably the power supply. If it's the mobo or the RAM, memtest should detect it. m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Abysmally slow 2D performance using proprietary Nvidia driver on dual Xeon system (EMT64)
However, after about 10 minutes the system load on one processor sharply increases to 100% when performing a simple task such as clicking on a button in Firefox, launching a new gnome-terminal window or clicking on the Applications menu at the top of the screen. I have not understood if the system load increases to 100% during the action of clicking and only during the action or if it goes up and remains stable. In the second case you should launch top from a shell and see what process chews up your processor. m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cups printing error
This is an aspect of Gentoo that I don't understand very well. the various kioslaves block other packages and vice-versa. For example, kdepim blocks kdepim-kioslaves, and kdebase blocks kdebase-kioslaves. Same goes for kdemultimedia and kdemultimedia-kioslaves. As a test, I unmerged kdepim and emerged kdepim-kioslaves and now my kmail is messed up. Thing is I cannot emerge both at the same time. Well, by looking on the forums it seems you have a mixed system. kdepim is a monolithic package. kdepim-kioslaves is a package of the kde split packages. Try unmerging kdepim and emerging kdepim-meta, and anyways be sure of having a kde relying on split packages (that's the way to go in the future) http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-355389.html m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] file with IP?
Given this hell, I can't see why my original suggestion of parsing ifconfig has not been taken into account... a couple of lines of python/perl/whatever should do the trick. m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] file with IP?
Given this hell, I can't see why my original suggestion of parsing ifconfig has not been taken into account... a couple of lines of It has, at least by the OP (that would be me). /sbin/ifconfig|grep -m 1 inet|sed -e 's/^\s*inet addr://'|sed -e 's/\s.*$//' Wow. You evil geniuses of regular expressions! °_° I'm not that good with sed, awk and the like... I'd have used a couple lines of python, probably. You know, I belong to the new, lazy, spoiled generations of desktop Linux users, that no more learn all the old Unix magic formulas... :) m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Interface to Microsoft Keyboards (ala Intellitype) possible on Gentoo?
I have a Microsoft natural multimedia keyboard and wish to use the extra available keys (the multimedia keys mostly, volume up/down, pause, stop, rewind/fast forward, mute). Are there any packages in portage that will allow me to do this? Of course, if there isn't, a point in the direction of a source for such a program would be appreciated. Isn't that the point of khotkeys? m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] some i/o errors are making my portage useless!
Looks like your hard drive has something bad, bad, bad. Try to run the badblocks utility, maybe not from Gentoo but from a live-cd. m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] file with IP?
You can also poll the ip by doing an ifconfig and parsing its output inside your application. I think the overhead on the system would be barely recognizable if you do a reasonable (no more than every 5 seconds, let's say) poll. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cups printing error
problem 1: can no longer access my block devices from Konqueror. FromKonqueror I get a Protocol not supported error when I click on the devices tab. So I can't access my usb disk or even view my partitionsfrom Konqueror. It seems you lack the correct kioslaves. When you emerged the split ebuilds, what did you emerge?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Quoting styles
Well I have to have HTML because I use email for a LOT more than just this list. Because I send pictures and make my text have color and all that stuff. Ain't that HTML? Ain't no list getting between me and my lady. No way! You're guilty of terrible bad taste :) . I exchange plain text emails with my lady and all my friends, and I filter out any HTML (I force visualization as plain text). If I want to send pictures, I attach them. This way my email is a collection of senseful conversation, not random chromatic noise. m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] people who don't understand binary (was: Re: Quoting styles)
Whoa! Are you running for Ubergeek-Of-The-Year award? :D Seriously (haha), your considerations are technically true, but they are of no use in explaining/burning down the famous joke. The sense of the joke is (1)making people that understand binary understand the joke itself and (2)letting other people puzzled about and the other 8? I think you should get some sense of humour done today :) m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to get debug information if system crashs randomly?
Another source of random freezes can be the power supply. It happened with my Gentoo box about two months ago. It started to randomly freeze, then to suddenly shut down without notice every 3-6 hours. memtest86 was fine. A new power supply solved all issues. Check it if all other alternatives have been discarded. m.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video iPod
On 10/29/05, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone? Please don't bump threads, it just adds noise. If someone does not answer you, it's probably because no one can answer you. m.
Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!
because some apps (like, for example xine) doesn't like it, when some of their dependencies get upgraded with a --deep world (like ffmpeg or transcode), while themselves are not recombiled. xine will not crash - but some video-filters will be gone. Whoa. Now I know why my mplayer cannot read mpgs anymore. Thank you guys. Anyway, I recompiled it a couple of days ago with a bunch of new use flags, so I hope it will be fixed now. But it was the only problem I ever had with emerge -Du world. If I can have a new lib that will fix bugs or improve something, I want it. I won't bother recompiling some app that will complain, if needed. But of course I'm talking of my desktop system, I think I would have a very different approach for a production system.
Re: [gentoo-user] Annoying Plugin pop-up, Firefox and Epiphany
On the lines of Java, why doesn't sun make Java for Linux on Sun?Because Sun is at war with linux, just like Microsoft is at war with linux.Sun Java for linux fits in with their plans about as much asMS-Office-for-linux fits in with Microsoft's plans.Sun wants to sellexpensive Sparc machines running expensive Solaris.Cheap commodity machines running free linux are eating their market alive, even moresothan MS' market.It's *MUCH* easier to transition from a unix-basedSolaris to a unix-like linux than from Windows to linux. This explanation doesn't fit with the fact Sun offers a free (beer) JVM for Linux on x86. It would fit more if Sun offers JVM for Linux on SPARC... at least you would buy Sun hardware. I think Linux/SPARC, just like Linux/PPC, is simply a too little niche worth the effort. m.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Bootable Floppy
Few bother toread and study what 'living in the spirit' really means. I'll stick with living in the matter for now, thank you. m.
