[gentoo-user] Re: Layman adding git over ssh only repository

2022-08-15 Thread nunojsilva
On 2022-08-15, Alexander Puchmayr wrote: > Hi there, > > I tried to add a repository which is only reachable via git over ssh; no > access via git port (9418 according to /etc/services) or http(s). Only ssh > connections with public key are accepted. > > I tried > Layman -o

[gentoo-user] Re: chrome vs. wayland wierdness

2022-08-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-08-04, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 21:49:59 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> emerge --depeclean --ask >> >> That removed a couple wayland packages (yay! I didn't really want >> wayland). Then it warned me >> >>!!! existing preserved libs: >>>>> package:

[gentoo-user] Re: --sync

2022-08-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-07-31, n952162 wrote: > I've been running gentoo for years now, and every time I go to --sync, > it's really a painful process. > > The process can take *very* before you find out if it succeeded or not. In my experience, long --sync times have always been due to a slow rsync server.

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge 7-9% faster with python 3.11 beta 4

2022-07-20 Thread Adam Carter
> How is it compared to PyPy3? > > I didn’t find pypy any faster than 3.10.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Google Chrome now requires wayland and jack audio?

2022-07-15 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 1:56 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2022-07-15, Mark Knecht wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 12:28 PM Grant Edwards < grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > I'm curious as the USB disconnect problem seems somehow to be > > related to using Chrome on the host machine

[gentoo-user] Re: Google Chrome now requires wayland and jack audio?

2022-07-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-07-15, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 12:28 PM Grant Edwards > wrote: >> >> It looks like www-client/google-chrome just added wayland and jack >> audio to the dependancies. So now I have to have Pulse _and_ Jack? > Is that truly a Chrome requirement, like the company

[gentoo-user] Re: Google Chrome now requires wayland and jack audio?

2022-07-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-07-15, Julien Roy wrote: > One of the side effects of using proprietary software : you can't > control with which flags it gets built. Yep. I didn't used to have the chrome binary package installed, but there are a couple things that I've never gotten to work in Chromium (e.g. Webex).

[gentoo-user] Re: google-chrome-103.0.5060 - choose password for new keyring

2022-07-09 Thread Martin Vaeth
Wols Lists wrote: > So why am I glad my USE= includes "-gnome" :-) > > Although I don't use Chrome, so I wouldn't notice anyways :-) You are wrong: The dependency is unconditional, so USE=-gnome won't help. What helps is to put a version of virtual/secret-service in your local repository which

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python mess - random winge!

2022-07-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 1:10 PM Wols Lists wrote: > > On 05/07/2022 17:44, Rich Freeman wrote: > > hat and its dependencies. Obviously you need to be caught up before > > things get removed from the repo, but the offending package itself > > will get removed when that happens anyway. > > > > You

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python mess - random winge!

2022-07-05 Thread Wols Lists
On 05/07/2022 17:44, Rich Freeman wrote: hat and its dependencies. Obviously you need to be caught up before things get removed from the repo, but the offending package itself will get removed when that happens anyway. You can always just globally keep the older version around longer if you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python mess - random winge!

2022-07-05 Thread Jack
On 2022.07.05 12:43, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2022-07-05, Jack wrote: > On 2022.07.05 12:24, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2022-07-05, William Kenworthy wrote: >> It would be nice if the news item explained how to let the upgrade >> procede while holding back a few packages. >> >> Can you set 3_9

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python mess - random winge!

2022-07-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 12:36 PM Jack wrote: > > On 2022.07.05 12:24, Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2022-07-05, William Kenworthy wrote: > > > > > I synced portage a couple of days now and now my systems are > > rebuilding > > > python modules for 3.10 without any input from me [...] > > > > Every

[gentoo-user] Re: python mess - random winge!

2022-07-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-07-05, Jack wrote: > On 2022.07.05 12:24, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2022-07-05, William Kenworthy wrote: >> It would be nice if the news item explained how to let the upgrade >> procede while holding back a few packages. >> >> Can you set 3_9 and 3_10 globally, and then disable 3_10

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python mess - random winge!

2022-07-05 Thread Jack
On 2022.07.05 12:24, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2022-07-05, William Kenworthy wrote: > I synced portage a couple of days now and now my systems are rebuilding > python modules for 3.10 without any input from me [...] Every time there's a Python upgrade like this, it turns into a bit of an

[gentoo-user] Re: python mess - random winge!

2022-07-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-07-05, William Kenworthy wrote: > I synced portage a couple of days now and now my systems are rebuilding > python modules for 3.10 without any input from me [...] Every time there's a Python upgrade like this, it turns into a bit of an ordeal because I always have a small handful of

[gentoo-user] Re: python mess - random winge!

2022-07-04 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 05/07/2022 08:04, William Kenworthy wrote: I synced portage a couple of days now and now my systems are rebuilding python modules for 3.10 without any input from me [...] Yes, that's normal and there was a news item about it. Do: eselect news list to get the and then use the NUMBER of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Boot has no space left.

2022-07-01 Thread Dale
Wols Lists wrote: > On 01/07/2022 00:21, Dale wrote: >> When I upgrade to a new kernel, I run for a month or so and then >> manually clean out /boot, that would include kernel, init thingy, >> System.map and config files. >> >> Seeing this reminds me it might be a good time to look into updating,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Boot has no space left.

2022-07-01 Thread Wols Lists
On 01/07/2022 00:21, Dale wrote: When I upgrade to a new kernel, I run for a month or so and then manually clean out /boot, that would include kernel, init thingy, System.map and config files. Seeing this reminds me it might be a good time to look into updating, even tho I might not reboot for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Google pop3 authentication failure

2022-06-30 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Am 1. Juli 2022 00:33:52 UTC schrieb Walter Dnes : >On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 02:29:03PM -, Grant Edwards wrote >> >> OAUTH is pretty complicated. >> >> However, setting up an app password is very simple. It only takes a >> few clicks. Quoting from the google support page (first link above):

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Google pop3 authentication failure

2022-06-30 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 02:29:03PM -, Grant Edwards wrote > > OAUTH is pretty complicated. > > However, setting up an app password is very simple. It only takes a > few clicks. Quoting from the google support page (first link above): > > 1. Log in to your Google Account. > 2. Click

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Boot has no space left.

2022-06-30 Thread Dale
William Kenworthy wrote: > > and don't forget to run "uname -a" to get your currently running > kernel version and make sure you don't delete that! > > "IF" "uname -a" isn't the latest version you have in /boot, some more > investigation as to why will be needed. > > BillK > > Just to add

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Boot has no space left.

2022-06-30 Thread William Kenworthy
and don't forget to run "uname -a" to get your currently running kernel version and make sure you don't delete that! "IF" "uname -a" isn't the latest version you have in /boot, some more investigation as to why will be needed. BillK On 1/7/22 04:29, Lee wrote: > The OP should read the section

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Boot has no space left.

2022-06-30 Thread Lee
The OP should read the section of the Gentoo manual on kernel install to learn what files are installed where. Yea, but just rm the kernels and initramfs's from /boot and you're golden. FWIW, I usually only upgrade my kernel when it's a major revision. On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 12:39 PM Wols Lists

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Boot has no space left.

2022-06-30 Thread Wols Lists
On 30/06/2022 19:23, Michael wrote: On Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:15:33 BST Guillermo wrote: Hello, I still have the same problem, but the command worked fine. The command "emerge -a --depclean" will only remove uninstall the kernel packages, but will not remove files from/usr/src/, or old

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Boot has no space left.

2022-06-30 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:15:33 BST Guillermo wrote: > Hello, > > I still have the same problem, but the command worked fine. The command "emerge -a --depclean" will only remove uninstall the kernel packages, but will not remove files from /usr/src/, or old kernel images and files from

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Boot has no space left.

2022-06-30 Thread Guillermo
Hello, I still have the same problem, but the command worked fine. On 30/06/2022 19:24, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 30/06/2022 20:11, Guillermo wrote: [screenshot] Doesn't "emerge -a --depclean" remove all these old kernels?

[gentoo-user] Re: Boot has no space left.

2022-06-30 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 30/06/2022 20:11, Guillermo wrote: [screenshot] Doesn't "emerge -a --depclean" remove all these old kernels?

[gentoo-user] Re: Google pop3 authentication failure

2022-06-30 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-06-30, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 10:26:55PM -, Grant Edwards wrote >> >> AFAIK, you've got two choices. >> >> 1. Use an "app password" >> >> https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833 >> >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Google pop3 authentication failure

2022-06-29 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 10:26:55PM -, Grant Edwards wrote > > AFAIK, you've got two choices. > > 1. Use an "app password" > > https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833 > > https://www.lifewire.com/get-a-password-to-access-gmail-by-pop-imap-2-1171882 > > 2. Use OAUTH 2.0

[gentoo-user] Re: Google pop3 authentication failure

2022-06-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-06-29, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 02:47:16PM +, spareproject776 wrote >> >> They flushed all the app password creds and forced 2fa. >> Need to go through the accounts.google.com login to recover. > > Sorry for the delay responding. I can login fine with my

[gentoo-user] Re: dbus now requires CONFIG_EPOLL in kernel?

2022-06-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-06-20, Grant Edwards wrote: > At the end of an update today, I got an error message from > > sys-apps/dbus-1.12.22-r2: > > * CONFIG_EPOLL: is not set when it should be. >Please check to make sure these options are set correctly. Failure >to do so may cause unexpected problems.

[gentoo-user] Re: --depclean wants to remove udev. What!?

2022-06-20 Thread Martin Vaeth
Dale wrote: > > root@fireball / # equery d sys-apps/systemd-utils >  * These packages depend on sys-apps/systemd-utils: > sys-apps/systemd-tmpfiles-250 (sys-apps/systemd-utils[tmpfiles]) > sys-fs/udev-250 (sys-apps/systemd-utils[udev,...]) > virtual/libudev-232-r7 (!systemd ?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Reinstall

2022-06-19 Thread Bill Kenworthy
I suggest either taking a full dd|bzip2 style backup of the hardisk to removable media for the simplest reinstall. Compliment with borgbackup or dervish for space efficient backups to capture more recent changes. Reinstall is the reverse .. lay down the dd image update from the backups with

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Reinstall

2022-06-19 Thread Francisco Ares
Em dom., 19 de jun. de 2022 às 14:33, Michael escreveu: > > On Sunday, 19 June 2022 18:22:34 BST Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2022-06-19, Francisco Ares wrote: > > > Just for the sake of preventing a future failure, besides personal > > > files (minimum and obvious) the "world" file and the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Reinstall

2022-06-19 Thread Francisco Ares
Em dom., 19 de jun. de 2022 às 14:22, Grant Edwards escreveu: > > On 2022-06-19, Francisco Ares wrote: > > > Just for the sake of preventing a future failure, besides personal > > files (minimum and obvious) the "world" file and the binary packages, > > built along with the package installation,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Reinstall

2022-06-19 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 19 June 2022 18:22:34 BST Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2022-06-19, Francisco Ares wrote: > > Just for the sake of preventing a future failure, besides personal > > files (minimum and obvious) the "world" file and the binary packages, > > built along with the package installation, what

[gentoo-user] Re: Reinstall

2022-06-19 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-06-19, Francisco Ares wrote: > Just for the sake of preventing a future failure, besides personal > files (minimum and obvious) the "world" file and the binary packages, > built along with the package installation, what else should I backup > so that I would be able to quickly restore

[gentoo-user] Re: X11 crashes anyone?

2022-06-19 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 20/12/2021 09:10, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Has anyone here noticed that x.org likes to crash sometimes as of late? Never happened before, going years and years back. The last month or so, I've got three x.org crashes: systemd-coredump[204553]: [] Process 453 (X) of user 0 dumped core.

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Searching the list archives

2022-06-13 Thread Laurence Perkins
>-Original Message- >From: Peter Humphrey >Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 2:17 AM >To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org >Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Searching the list archives > >On Sunday, 12 June 2022 09:04:30 BST Nuno Silva wrote: >> On 2022-06-12, Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Searching the list archives

2022-06-12 Thread tastytea
On 2022-06-12 10:17+0100 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday, 12 June 2022 09:04:30 BST Nuno Silva wrote: > > On 2022-06-12, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > Hello list, > > > > > > Does any site out there offer a search function over its whole > > > archive? Going through one month at a time is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Searching the list archives

2022-06-12 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 12 June 2022 09:04:30 BST Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2022-06-12, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > Does any site out there offer a search function over its whole archive? > > Going through one month at a time is going to take for ever. > > I think the search feature at

[gentoo-user] Re: Replacement for RabbitVCS SVN/Git browser?

2022-06-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-06-06, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2022-06-06, Grant Edwards wrote: >> Can anybody recommend a good replacement for RabbitVCS? I've been >> using it for ages to browse repos (mainly SVN), but it seems to have >> died off. It's no longer in the package database nor in PyPi. The >> last

[gentoo-user] Re: Replacement for RabbitVCS SVN/Git browser?

2022-06-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-06-06, Grant Edwards wrote: > Can anybody recommend a good replacement for RabbitVCS? I've been > using it for ages to browse repos (mainly SVN), but it seems to have > died off. It's no longer in the package database nor in PyPi. The > last update in the developer blog is 2-1/2 years

[gentoo-user] Re: mailing list problem: changing subscription type

2022-05-30 Thread Madhu
* "Robin H. Johnson" : Wrote on Mon, 30 May 2022 05:08:48 +: >> Could I request the list owner to make sure I remain subscribed to the >> the list while not receiving copies in the mail? > I don't see any requests to unsubscribe from the regular version of the > list. > > The

[gentoo-user] Re: mailing list problem: changing subscription type

2022-05-29 Thread Robin H. Johnson
(Replying as listowner, but I'm also on the nomail version of gentoo-user, please CC to gentoo-user+ow...@lists.gentoo.org or to me directly for most mail) On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 07:35:20AM +0530, Madhu wrote: > I had subscribed to gentoo-user on 2022-05-25, and posted a message on > that date.

[gentoo-user] Re: plasmashell becomes sluggish with 100% CPU usage

2022-05-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 24/05/2022 23:20, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Anyone noticed anything lately with plasmashell? I think it started happening after Qt was upgraded from 5.15.3 to 5.15.4. At login, the desktop is very unresponsive and sluggish. Mouse clicks take over a second to register. The plasmashell

[gentoo-user] Re: plasmashell becomes sluggish with 100% CPU usage

2022-05-24 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 25/05/2022 00:53, Daniel Frey wrote: Do you have an nvidia card? This machine that constantly has this issue does, but my laptop (intel graphics) does not. Yeah, it's nvidia using the binary driver. But I've never had this issue before. It only started happening today when I booted up the

[gentoo-user] Re: Remove rust completely

2022-05-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-05-12, Mansour Al Akeel wrote: > Thank you for your response. The idea of "getting harder and harder" > is hard to accept. Gentoo has always been about having choices. It is. You can choose to avoid Rust if you want. > Firefox requires rust, but is there a way to disable this? No. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bluetooth speakers

2022-05-06 Thread Daniel Frey
On 2022-05-06 05:24, Grant Edwards wrote: Or perhaps it's the speakers and their amplifiers. IMO, that's the logical conclusion. I've never had the audio chip on any computer fail -- ever. Nor have I ever had a USB audio adapter fail (though I've only used a couple of them over the years).

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bluetooth speakers

2022-05-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 6 May 2022 13:24:53 BST Grant Edwards wrote: > > Or perhaps it's the speakers and their amplifiers. > > IMO, that's the logical conclusion. Whence my optimism in replacing them. > I've never had the audio chip on any computer fail -- ever. Nor have I > ever had a USB audio adapter

[gentoo-user] Re: Bluetooth speakers

2022-05-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-05-06, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday, 5 May 2022 21:37:12 BST Michael wrote: > >> I've never had speakers blowing the audio chips driving them. I >> would have thought they would be protected electrically from such >> events occurring. I doubt there is much protection on line-out

[gentoo-user] Re: ALSA forgot default device

2022-05-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-05-01, John Covici wrote: > These configurations are in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf as to which is > the default sound card and its parameters. I believe that file is only used if alsa is a module. I've never configured alsa as a module. > The name might not be alsa.conf, but you would

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ALSA forgot default device

2022-04-30 Thread John Covici
On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 21:56:11 -0400, Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2022-05-01, Grant Edwards wrote: > > > >> The usual fallback is wiki.archlinux.org, but its instructions to > >> place the following in /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc doesn't work: > >> > >> defaults.pcm.card 1 > >>

[gentoo-user] Re: ALSA forgot default device

2022-04-30 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-05-01, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> The usual fallback is wiki.archlinux.org, but its instructions to >> place the following in /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc doesn't work: >> >> defaults.pcm.card 1 >> defaults.ctl.card 1 > > wiki.gentoo.org is back, and it says to use something

[gentoo-user] Re: ALSA forgot default device

2022-04-30 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-05-01, Grant Edwards wrote: > On Gentoo, with OpenRC, how do you configure the default board/device > for ALSA? > > I've asked Google, and all the links it comes up with are for sites > that are broken because of PHP or database failures (e.g. wiki.gentoo.org > and forums.gentoo.org). >

[gentoo-user] Re: FVWM: xterm*VT100.Translations only when mouse is over the window with focus

2022-04-29 Thread n952162
On 4/23/22 06:04, David Fries wrote: That sounds unusual, I tried both xterm and uxterm and they both behave like I expect with registering key presses including F1 as long as that xterm has focus no matter if the mouse is someplace else. It is the same behavior as other terminals and other

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sync-type: rsync vs git

2022-04-27 Thread Wol
On 27/04/2022 17:24, Grant Edwards wrote: IOW, I want all the changes made during a single "sync" to go into my local repo as a single commit regardless of how many commits have been made to the master repo since my previous "sync". I think git can do that -- whether the emerge sync settings in

[gentoo-user] Re: sync-type: rsync vs git

2022-04-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-04-27, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 10:22 AM Grant Edwards > wrote: >> >> Is there any advantage (either to me or the Gentoo community) to >> continue to use rsync and the rsync pool instead of switching the >> rest of my machines to git? >> >> I've been very impressed

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM and the /usr Logical Volume

2022-04-25 Thread Wols Lists
On 25/04/2022 14:36, dhk wrote: After reinstalling Gentoo with a new liveusb, my system still looks similar to the way it was before.  I started with the existing partition schema and wiped everything and performed a separate independent install.  I am still not sure why the /dev/dm-1 block

[gentoo-user] Re: LVM and the /usr Logical Volume

2022-04-25 Thread dhk
Having /dev/dm-1 mounted on /usr would not be an issue if it was supposed to be that way; however, nothing in the handbook or anything else I have read says that is correct.  In addition, every other system I have setup or used always had /usr as the mount point in the fstab. My primary

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Would a Thinkpad X200 be too much trouble too run gentoo on?

2022-04-21 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Thu, 2022-04-21 at 15:39 +, Grant Edwards wrote: > > Have you tried using dev-lang/rust-bin? > No, I avoid rust mainly for the security problems. The compilation time saved is just a bonus.

[gentoo-user] Re: Would a Thinkpad X200 be too much trouble too run gentoo on?

2022-04-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-04-21, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On Thu, 2022-04-21 at 15:49 +0300, Dex Conner wrote: > >> So I've found a Thinkpad X200 online and I'm thinking of buying it for >> libreboot purposes. Do you think the P8600 cpu can handle all the >> compiling on gentoo? For the record, I don't have any

[gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] Older machines no text console video after bootup

2022-04-20 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 10:33:43PM +0200, Peter Böhm wrote > You are missing FrameBuffer configuration: > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Framebuffer > > This is always necessary - even without ... > > ... I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications Thanks. I now have text on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-boot on openrc

2022-04-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 01:09:02 -0500, Dale wrote: > > And now it's perfectly all right. What is one supposed to do in the > > face of such chaos? > > > > I confess that the machine is perilously close to being hurled > > through the window. There were updates to udev and systemd-utils, I wonder if

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-boot on openrc

2022-04-19 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday, 18 April 2022 16:05:24 -00 Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> The machine is sick. I now have no mouse or keyboard after POST. They're >> fine in UEFI BIOS setup, and they're fine after the default kernel has >> finished booting - just not at boot menu time. > And now

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-boot on openrc

2022-04-18 Thread Jack
On 4/18/22 22:53, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday, 18 April 2022 16:05:24 -00 Peter Humphrey wrote: The machine is sick. I now have no mouse or keyboard after POST. They're fine in UEFI BIOS setup, and they're fine after the default kernel has finished booting - just not at boot menu time. And

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-boot on openrc

2022-04-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 18 April 2022 16:05:24 -00 Peter Humphrey wrote: > The machine is sick. I now have no mouse or keyboard after POST. They're > fine in UEFI BIOS setup, and they're fine after the default kernel has > finished booting - just not at boot menu time. And now it's perfectly all right. What

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to make a boot menu?

2022-04-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 19:50:41 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > grub-mkconfig just runs a bunch of shell scripts to generate > everything, so you can have it autogenerate anything you want. It > seems like a rough way to do it would be to just copy the regular > linux once for each runlevel so that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to make a boot menu?

2022-04-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 16:48:04 - (UTC), Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> Hm. If I'm reading the wiki right, it can't handle choice of run > >> levels with a selected kernel. Or is that wrong? > > > > From what I understand you should be able to tweak kernel command > > line options in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-boot on openrc

2022-04-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 17 April 2022 20:17:47 -00 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 1:05 PM Martin Vaeth wrote: > > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > On Sunday, 17 April 2022 16:42:35 -00 Martin Vaeth wrote: > > >> Peter Humphrey wrote: > > >> > On Sunday, 17 April 2022 14:54:50 -00 Rich Freeman

[gentoo-user] Re: How to make a boot menu?

2022-04-17 Thread Martin Vaeth
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 3:00 PM Martin Vaeth wrote: >> >> Yes, without a manually written grub.cfg you get none of these features - >> the default grub.cfg is just horrible. >> Well, the most powerful feature is probably still available: >> The possibility to edit the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to make a boot menu?

2022-04-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 3:00 PM Martin Vaeth wrote: > > Yes, without a manually written grub.cfg you get none of these features - > the default grub.cfg is just horrible. > Well, the most powerful feature is probably still available: > The possibility to edit the kernel's command line, partition

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-boot on openrc

2022-04-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 1:05 PM Martin Vaeth wrote: > > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Sunday, 17 April 2022 16:42:35 -00 Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> > On Sunday, 17 April 2022 14:54:50 -00 Rich Freeman wrote: > >> >> Can't you just fix your USE flags with systemd-utils?

[gentoo-user] Re: How to make a boot menu?

2022-04-17 Thread Martin Vaeth
Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 17 April 2022 17:48:04 BST Martin Vaeth wrote: >> Michael wrote: >> > From: Michael >> > >> > On Sunday, 17 April 2022 16:52:34 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: >> >> > Why not try rEFInd? It handles UEFI booting simply, without the >> >> > no-longer-needed bloat of GRUB.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to make a boot menu?

2022-04-17 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 17 April 2022 17:48:04 BST Martin Vaeth wrote: > Michael wrote: > > From: Michael > > > > On Sunday, 17 April 2022 16:52:34 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> > Why not try rEFInd? It handles UEFI booting simply, without the > >> > no-longer-needed bloat of GRUB. > >> > >> Hm. If I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-boot on openrc

2022-04-17 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 17 April 2022 17:05:18 -00 Martin Vaeth wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Sunday, 17 April 2022 16:42:35 -00 Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> > On Sunday, 17 April 2022 14:54:50 -00 Rich Freeman wrote: > >> >> Can't you just fix your USE flags with

[gentoo-user] Re: systemd-boot on openrc

2022-04-17 Thread Martin Vaeth
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday, 17 April 2022 16:42:35 -00 Martin Vaeth wrote: >> Peter Humphrey wrote: >> > On Sunday, 17 April 2022 14:54:50 -00 Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> Can't you just fix your USE flags with systemd-utils? Why revert? >> > >> > No, because the flag I'd need is 'boot',

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-boot on openrc

2022-04-17 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 17 April 2022 16:42:35 -00 Martin Vaeth wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Sunday, 17 April 2022 14:54:50 -00 Rich Freeman wrote: > >> Can't you just fix your USE flags with systemd-utils? Why revert? > > > > No, because the flag I'd need is 'boot', and that triggers switching

[gentoo-user] Re: How to make a boot menu?

2022-04-17 Thread Martin Vaeth
Michael wrote: > From: Michael > On Sunday, 17 April 2022 16:52:34 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: >> > Why not try rEFInd? It handles UEFI booting simply, without the >> > no-longer-needed bloat of GRUB. >> >> Hm. If I'm reading the wiki right, it can't handle choice of run levels with >> a selected

[gentoo-user] Re: systemd-boot on openrc

2022-04-17 Thread Martin Vaeth
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday, 17 April 2022 14:54:50 -00 Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> Can't you just fix your USE flags with systemd-utils? Why revert? > > No, because the flag I'd need is 'boot', and that triggers switching from > elogind to systemd. No, USE=boot for systemd-util does not

[gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] Footer line with LibreOffice's Calc?

2022-04-10 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Dan, On Sunday, 2022-04-10 13:06:46 +0200, you wrote: > ... > In LO-Calc: > > Tools -> Options -> LibreOffice Calc -> General -> Input Settings -> "Expand > references when new columns/rows are inserted" Oops ... let me politely put it this way: apparently it was too late and I was too tired

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM and the /usr Logical Volume

2022-04-07 Thread Wols Lists
On 07/04/2022 05:00, John Covici wrote: Are you using systemd or openrc? What are you using for your initrd, dracut or something else? I also wonder if dm1 is the same thing as your/dev/mapper/... by another name -- check where the link points to. If it isn't, then there's something wrong.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM and the /usr Logical Volume

2022-04-06 Thread John Covici
On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 19:38:16 -0400, dhk wrote: > > So it sounds like /usr being under /dev/dm-1 instead of > /dev/mapper does not look right. > > The UUID was tried in the fstab and the same results occurred, > same as with LABEL and mount points. > > Since /usr is mounted temporarily at boot

[gentoo-user] Re: LVM and the /usr Logical Volume

2022-04-06 Thread dhk
So it sounds like /usr being under /dev/dm-1 instead of /dev/mapper does not look right. The UUID was tried in the fstab and the same results occurred, same as with LABEL and mount points. Since /usr is mounted temporarily at boot it almost looks as if there is something wrong with the way

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Java wants cups?

2022-04-03 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 at 18:43, Matthias Hanft wrote: > And jdk-11 seems to need just openjdk (and not icedtea any more). > > This is because icedtea doesn't exist for java 11 (at least in portage). If you don't need it for anything in particular, I would go with your initial thought to just mask

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Java wants cups?

2022-04-03 Thread Matthias Hanft
Martin Vaeth wrote: > > I guess that virtual/jdk prefers the non-binary package, and apparently > portage is not able to resolve the conflict automatically by letting the > binary package satisfy the dependency. If you manually install openjdk-bin, > the problem is probably resolved. Ahhh...

[gentoo-user] Re: Java wants cups?

2022-04-03 Thread Martin Vaeth
Matthias Hanft wrote: > > Meanwhile I have found out that the culprit is "virtual/jdk". No, the “culprit” is that you do not use the binary package openjdk and you did apparently in the case of icedtea. Icedtea and openjdk both have cups as a USE-flag, but this influences only the runtime

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Sound not sounding

2022-03-25 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 25 March 2022 00:07:30 GMT Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 23/03/2022 18:50, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > The USB sound dongle on this workstation has stopped working, but only for > > me. The system settings Audio setup window detects it but no sound is > > heard > Run "alsamixer" (it's a

[gentoo-user] Re: Sound not sounding

2022-03-24 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 23/03/2022 18:50, Peter Humphrey wrote: The USB sound dongle on this workstation has stopped working, but only for me. The system settings Audio setup window detects it but no sound is heard Run "alsamixer" (it's a command-line tool) and in the text UI that appears, press F6, select your

[gentoo-user] Re: How to run X11 apps remotely?

2022-03-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-03-22, Grant Taylor wrote: > On 3/22/22 10:41 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> How does one run "modern" X11 apps remotely? > > Xvnc > > As in run an Xvnc server as an X11 server / display. Point your > programs at that display / server. Then have a VNC client connect to > said VNC server.

[gentoo-user] Re: How to run X11 apps remotely?

2022-03-22 Thread James Cloos
ah, yes. i completely forgot about xpra. probabably a better solution than spice. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6

[gentoo-user] Re: How to run X11 apps remotely?

2022-03-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-03-22, Grant Edwards wrote: > How does one run "modern" X11 apps remotely? > [...] > I do not want a "remote desktop". I just want to run a single > application on a remote machine and have its window show up locally. It looks like xpra will do what I want:

[gentoo-user] Re: How to run X11 apps remotely?

2022-03-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-03-22, Laurence Perkins wrote: >>Even something "lightweight" like atril is so slow it's barely usable. >> >>I do not want a "remote desktop". I just want to run a single >>application on a remote machine and have its window show up locally. >> >>Back in the day, I used to run X11 apps

[gentoo-user] Re: Google and "fetchmail" + "ssmtp"

2022-03-18 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Nikos, On Thursday, 2022-03-17 19:04:04 +0200, you wrote: > ... > I don't use fetchmail (just an email client), but fetchmail 7 apparently > supports oauth2. It's masked in portage because it's still alpha > (net-mail/fetchmail-7.0.0_alpha9-r1). > > And then read: > >

[gentoo-user] Re: Google and "fetchmail" + "ssmtp"

2022-03-17 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 17/03/2022 18:51, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: Greetings, since quite some time, longe before "converting" to Gentoo, I've used "fetchmail" and "ssmtp" to retrieve and send mail via my Google account. Some time after I had all set up, Google started nagging about my not- so-secure access to

[gentoo-user] Re: depclean wants to remove xf86-video-intel

2022-03-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-03-15, Grant Edwards wrote: >> I bit the bullet, let it depclean and rebooted. > > I'll give that a go the next time I'm in the office (which is where > the machine in question lives). It _almost_ "just worked". The names of the displays changed, so I had to modify my xinit/openbox

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: depclean wants to remove xf86-video-intel

2022-03-16 Thread ny6p01
I was under the impression that xf86-video-intel was for older video Intel sets only... Lee  On Mar 15, 2022 at 6:33 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2022-03-15, Neil Bothwick wrote: > If X doesn't come up, simply re-emerge xf86-video-intel. That won't take > long because you will obviously

[gentoo-user] Re: depclean wants to remove xf86-video-intel

2022-03-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-03-15, Neil Bothwick wrote: > If X doesn't come up, simply re-emerge xf86-video-intel. That won't take > long because you will obviously have quickpkg'd it before depcleaning... You would think so. And you would think that would fix it. -- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: depclean wants to remove xf86-video-intel

2022-03-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 15 Mar 2022 19:24:02 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > I bit the bullet, let it depclean and rebooted. > > I'll give that a go the next time I'm in the office (which is where > the machine in question lives). I've got to remember to drag a loptop > along with me so that if X

[gentoo-user] Re: depclean wants to remove xf86-video-intel

2022-03-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-03-14, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 17:07:54 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> I was a bit startled thos morning when emerge --depclean wanted to >> remove xf86-video-intel. I presume this is a result of the switch to >> the "built in" modesetting driver? And there are

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