Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?

2008-08-11 Thread Dirk Uys
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 7:11 PM, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I ask it here because I really don't know where to ask it. Is there a Linux system somewhere with a *non-GNU* userland? I wonder in particular if: - there are Linux systems using the BSD userlands - there are Linux systems

Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?

2008-08-11 Thread Dirk Uys
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 7:11 PM, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I ask it here because I really don't know where to ask it. Is there a Linux system somewhere with a *non-GNU* userland? I wonder in particular if: - there are Linux systems using the BSD userlands - there are Linux systems

Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?

2008-08-11 Thread b.n.
Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: there are many shells. sh, bash, bsh. korn, csh, zsh, dash, tcsh, why make a new one, if you can do incredible stuff with zsh? A shell is not so easy to create. I understand. I wondered if *conceptually new* shells were present.That's why I thought about

Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?

2008-08-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag, 11. August 2008, b.n. wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: there are many shells. sh, bash, bsh. korn, csh, zsh, dash, tcsh, why make a new one, if you can do incredible stuff with zsh? A shell is not so easy to create. I understand. I wondered if *conceptually new*

Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?

2008-08-11 Thread b.n.
Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: But projects like Haiku and ReactOS created also most of userland from scratch, not only the kernels. reactos tries to copy windows - so it will be using the windows userland. haiku tries to be beos - it is will be able to run beos apps. Also some posix-

Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?

2008-08-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag, 12. August 2008, b.n. wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: So I can rephrase my question as those two: Why didn't those projects use the Linux kernel? because they wanted to do something different. Yes, very probably. However it's a kind of decision I don't really

[gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?

2008-08-10 Thread b.n.
Hi, I ask it here because I really don't know where to ask it. Is there a Linux system somewhere with a *non-GNU* userland? I wonder in particular if: - there are Linux systems using the BSD userlands - there are Linux systems using completely non-standard userlands... let's say, non-Unix

Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?

2008-08-10 Thread Florian Philipp
b.n. schrieb: Hi, I ask it here because I really don't know where to ask it. Is there a Linux system somewhere with a *non-GNU* userland? I wonder in particular if: - there are Linux systems using the BSD userlands - there are Linux systems using completely non-standard userlands... let's

Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?

2008-08-10 Thread Chuck Robey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 b.n. wrote: Hi, I ask it here because I really don't know where to ask it. Is there a Linux system somewhere with a *non-GNU* userland? I wonder in particular if: - there are Linux systems using the BSD userlands - there are Linux systems

Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?

2008-08-10 Thread b.n.
Chuck Robey ha scritto: You might possibly be missing one of the most basic (in organization) differences between any BSD and any Linux is that BSD's are all built and packaged with a set of userland programs. This doesn't include many user applications, just the kind of things that you think

Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?

2008-08-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag, 10. August 2008, b.n. wrote: Hi, I ask it here because I really don't know where to ask it. Is there a Linux system somewhere with a *non-GNU* userland? linux + uclibc + busybox? yes. And maybe you even get X or KDE run on it - google and tell us your results ;)

Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?

2008-08-10 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 00:54 +0200, b.n. wrote: That's why I asked if there is some Linux that is not a little bit but *wildly* different, as to be almost unrecognizable as the Linux we're all familiar with (that usually is done by a bash/zsh/ksh shell + other gnu coreutils etc.) For a

Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?

2008-08-10 Thread b.n.
Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: On Sonntag, 10. August 2008, b.n. wrote: Hi, I ask it here because I really don't know where to ask it. Is there a Linux system somewhere with a *non-GNU* userland? linux + uclibc + busybox? yes. And maybe you even get X or KDE run on it - google and tell

Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?

2008-08-10 Thread Chuck Robey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 b.n. wrote: Chuck Robey ha scritto: You might possibly be missing one of the most basic (in organization) differences between any BSD and any Linux is that BSD's are all built and packaged with a set of userland programs. This doesn't include

Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?

2008-08-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag, 11. August 2008, b.n. wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: On Sonntag, 10. August 2008, b.n. wrote: Hi, I ask it here because I really don't know where to ask it. Is there a Linux system somewhere with a *non-GNU* userland? linux + uclibc + busybox? yes. And