Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-10 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:40 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com [09-08-03 23:09]: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Grantemailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I know Linux systems aren't supposed to become fragmented, but I've also read that it can happen

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-10 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: No. :) There's no documentation really. The source cide is funny, everything is named after law, investigations, accused, trials and judgments. :) There best I can do is reproduce the part of the source that shows this info and hope you can infer from the names what they

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-09 Thread Grant
Oh, and you're utilizing SMART, right? Should I be doing more than running this test: smartctl -t long /dev/sda [...] Does this indicate everything is OK as far as SMART can tell? Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error # 1  

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-08 Thread Alex Schuster
Grant writes: Oh, and you're utilizing SMART, right? Should I be doing more than running this test: smartctl -t long /dev/sda [...] Does this indicate everything is OK as far as SMART can tell? Num Test_DescriptionStatus Remaining LifeTime(hours)

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-07 Thread Grant
I know Linux systems aren't supposed to become fragmented, but I've also read that it can happen eventually.  I'm on ext3.  I've read that ext4 will have a defragmenter but that it doesn't have one yet. It's not that they aren't supposed to become fragmented, it is that they try to avoid

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-07 Thread meino . cramer
Grant emailgr...@gmail.com [09-08-07 17:40]: I know Linux systems aren't supposed to become fragmented, but I've also read that it can happen eventually.  I'm on ext3.  I've read that ext4 will have a defragmenter but that it doesn't have one yet. It's not that they aren't supposed to

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-07 Thread Grant
 It never made a sound before, but now there's a rhythmic grinding sound when miro is running, maybe because the HD is more full now. In my experience, the rate of change of hard drive access volume is inversely proportional with the drive's lifetime.  The faster it gets louder, the

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-07 Thread meino . cramer
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com [09-08-03 23:09]: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Grantemailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I know Linux systems aren't supposed to become fragmented, but I've also read that it can happen eventually. I'm on ext3. I've read that ext4 will have a

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-06 Thread Dan Farrell
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:42:24 -0700 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:  It never made a sound before, but now there's a rhythmic grinding sound when miro is running, maybe because the HD is more full now. In my experience, the rate of change of hard drive access volume is inversely

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-06 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Montag 03 August 2009 22:51:58 schrieb Thierry de Coulon: Anyway, I would not use such a full partition for / or /home. When it happend I moved /usr to another partition. Hmm, I simply extend the logical volume. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-06 Thread meino . cramer
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com [09-08-03 23:09]: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Grantemailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I know Linux systems aren't supposed to become fragmented, but I've also read that it can happen eventually. I'm on ext3. I've read that ext4 will have a

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-06 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:26:26 -0700 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, that's when I'm hearing the HD access I didn't hear before.  I run miro and it's downloading several torrents all the time.  It never made a sound before, but now there's a rhythmic grinding sound when miro is

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-06 Thread Stroller
On 7 Aug 2009, at 04:56, Mike Kazantsev wrote: ... Note that this problem can also be (easily?) solved on software level by pre-allocating files (like dd if=/dev/zero of=file). Sure, that won't make writes sequential, but that should guarantee that resulting file would be as

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-05 Thread Grant
 It never made a sound before, but now there's a rhythmic grinding sound when miro is running, maybe because the HD is more full now. In my experience, the rate of change of hard drive access volume is inversely proportional with the drive's lifetime.  The faster it gets louder, the sooner

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-04 Thread Grant
I know Linux systems aren't supposed to become fragmented, but I've also read that it can happen eventually.  I'm on ext3.  I've read that ext4 will have a defragmenter but that it doesn't have one yet. It's not that they aren't supposed to become fragmented, it is that they try to avoid it.

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-04 Thread Dan Farrell
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:48:06 -0700 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: It never made a sound before, but now there's a rhythmic grinding sound when miro is running, maybe because the HD is more full now. In my experience, the rate of change of hard drive access volume is inversely proportional

[gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-03 Thread Grant
My HD is getting noisier during access and I wonder if it's a fragmentation issue. I have: # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda3960872076 754795944 157266648 83% / I know Linux systems aren't supposed to become fragmented, but I've also

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-03 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 13:22 -0700, Grant wrote: My HD is getting noisier during access and I wonder if it's a fragmentation issue. Are you sure it's not a HD-about-to-die issue? -a

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-03 Thread Thierry de Coulon
On Monday 03 August 2009, Grant wrote: # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda3960872076 754795944 157266648 83% / The partition is fairly full, probably the system has a hard time finding a spot to create an unfragmented file. I remember

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-03 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Grantemailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I know Linux systems aren't supposed to become fragmented, but I've also read that it can happen eventually. I'm on ext3. I've read that ext4 will have a defragmenter but that it doesn't have one yet. It's not that they aren't

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 03 August 2009 22:51:58 Thierry de Coulon wrote: On Monday 03 August 2009, Grant wrote: # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda3960872076 754795944 157266648 83% / The partition is fairly full, probably the system has a hard

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 03 August 2009 23:05:02 Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Grantemailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I know Linux systems aren't supposed to become fragmented, but I've also read that it can happen eventually. I'm on ext3. I've read that ext4 will have a defragmenter but

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-03 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Grantemailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone tried the shake defragmenter? Yes, nothing has blown up yet. :) I used it a while back but couldn't really see a whole lot of

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-03 Thread Grant
I know Linux systems aren't supposed to become fragmented, but I've also read that it can happen eventually.  I'm on ext3.  I've read that ext4 will have a defragmenter but that it doesn't have one yet. It's not that they aren't supposed to become fragmented, it is that they try to avoid it.

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?

2009-08-03 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Grantemailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I know Linux systems aren't supposed to become fragmented, but I've also read that it can happen eventually. I'm on ext3. I've read that ext4 will have a defragmenter but that it doesn't have one yet. It's not that they aren't