Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts

2017-03-08 Thread David W Noon
On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 13:56:10 -0700, Thelma (the...@sys-concept.com) wrote
about "Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts" (in
<9a5a-731b-79c8-11c5-843caf8c5...@sys-concept.com>):

[snip]
> The "Tbird_msg.pdf" you attached and other pdf files that I downloaded
> from different places are using:  DejaVuSans.ttf font as well but they
> look much, much nicer than the one I create using my Firefox.

I don't think any particular font is the problem. I think it is the font
selection that is causing issues.

> XFT_DEBUG=1 flpsed Tbird_msg.pdf
> XFT_DEBUG=1
> XftFontInfoFill: /usr/share/fonts/dejavu/DejaVuSans.ttf: 0 (14 pixels)

What does the Xfont debug trace say about your problem documents?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts

2017-03-08 Thread thelma
On 03/08/2017 11:32 AM, David W Noon wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:39:55 -0700, Thelma (the...@sys-concept.com) wrote
> about "Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts" (in
> <9082ed1b-ccad-31e6-36ff-33feb2d0c...@sys-concept.com>):
> 
> [snip]
>> The two PFD documents that I created using both versions of Firefox:
>> www-client/firefox
>> www-client/firefox-bin
>>
>> from pdfinfo:
>> Producer:   cairo 1.9.5 (using Firefox)
>> Producer:   pdfTeX-1.40.16 (using Firefox)
>>
>> Both files are having problem viewing fonts using "flpsed".
> 
> I have created a PDF of your message to which this message is replying.
> I used Thunderbird, which uses cairo-1.9.5 also. See if the attached
> document renders correctly with flpsed. If it does, the culprit will
> likely be pdfTeX-1.40.16. If it looks ugly, it could well be Cairo --
> but given Cairo's purpose, that seems unlikely.
> 

The "Tbird_msg.pdf" you attached and other pdf files that I downloaded
from different places are using:  DejaVuSans.ttf font as well but they
look much, much nicer than the one I create using my Firefox.

XFT_DEBUG=1 flpsed Tbird_msg.pdf
XFT_DEBUG=1
XftFontInfoFill: /usr/share/fonts/dejavu/DejaVuSans.ttf: 0 (14 pixels)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts

2017-03-08 Thread thelma

On 03/08/2017 01:29 PM, James Cloos wrote:
>> "t" == thelma   writes:
> 
> t> Which package contain "Helvetica" font?
> t> I'm using "flpsed" and apparently it is using Helvetica font, which
> t> "eselect fontconfig list" is not showing anything that resemble "helvet"
> t> "eix helvet" is not showing anything either.
> 
> t> The fonts in "flpsed" display are very rugged/pixelated, it is hard to
> t> look at them.
> 
> I read a number of posts in this thread; few had anything useful to say...
> 
> First of all, FL_HELVETICA is a #define from fltk.
> 
> Cf http://www.fltk.org/doc-1.1/enumerations.html
> 
> So with which USE flags have you compiled fltk?
> 
> If you have eix installed, eix fltk will show them.
> 
> You probably want the xft and/or cairo flags enabled.
> 
> If you have xft, fltk will use fontconfig and client-side fonts.
> 
> And then running:
> 
>   :; fc-match helvetica
> 
> will show you which font fontconfig will use when asked for helvetica.
> 
> Also, try this:
> 
>   :; XFT_DEBUG=1 flpsed
> 
> If fltk uses xft, then that will show you which fonts it selected.
> 
> If nothing prints than fltk is compiled to use server-side fonts.
> Which you probably prefer to avoid.
> 
> -JimC

Thank you Jim for the input.

Yes, fltk is compiled with: cairo xfl
eix fltk
Installed versions:  1.3.3-r3(1)(01:43:37 PM 03/07/2017)(cairo opengl threads 
xft xinerama -debug -doc -examples -games -static-libs)

fc-match helvetica
Helvetica.pfa: "Helvetica" "Regular"

XFT_DEBUG=1 flpsed invoice_5566.pdf 
XFT_DEBUG=1
XftFontInfoFill: /usr/share/fonts/dejavu/DejaVuSans.ttf: 0 (14 pixels)

So I have Helvetica but flpsed is using DejaVuSans.ttf, question is why?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts

2017-03-08 Thread James Cloos
> "t" == thelma   writes:

t> Which package contain "Helvetica" font?
t> I'm using "flpsed" and apparently it is using Helvetica font, which
t> "eselect fontconfig list" is not showing anything that resemble "helvet"
t> "eix helvet" is not showing anything either.

t> The fonts in "flpsed" display are very rugged/pixelated, it is hard to
t> look at them.

I read a number of posts in this thread; few had anything useful to say...

First of all, FL_HELVETICA is a #define from fltk.

Cf http://www.fltk.org/doc-1.1/enumerations.html

So with which USE flags have you compiled fltk?

If you have eix installed, eix fltk will show them.

You probably want the xft and/or cairo flags enabled.

If you have xft, fltk will use fontconfig and client-side fonts.

And then running:

  :; fc-match helvetica

will show you which font fontconfig will use when asked for helvetica.

Also, try this:

  :; XFT_DEBUG=1 flpsed

If fltk uses xft, then that will show you which fonts it selected.

If nothing prints than fltk is compiled to use server-side fonts.
Which you probably prefer to avoid.

-JimC
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Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts

2017-03-08 Thread David W Noon
On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:39:55 -0700, Thelma (the...@sys-concept.com) wrote
about "Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts" (in
<9082ed1b-ccad-31e6-36ff-33feb2d0c...@sys-concept.com>):

[snip]
> The two PFD documents that I created using both versions of Firefox:
> www-client/firefox
> www-client/firefox-bin
> 
> from pdfinfo:
> Producer:   cairo 1.9.5 (using Firefox)
> Producer:   pdfTeX-1.40.16 (using Firefox)
> 
> Both files are having problem viewing fonts using "flpsed".

I have created a PDF of your message to which this message is replying.
I used Thunderbird, which uses cairo-1.9.5 also. See if the attached
document renders correctly with flpsed. If it does, the culprit will
likely be pdfTeX-1.40.16. If it looks ugly, it could well be Cairo --
but given Cairo's purpose, that seems unlikely.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts

2017-03-07 Thread thelma
On 03/07/2017 03:11 PM, David W Noon wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 14:20:54 -0700, Thelma (the...@sys-concept.com) wrote
> about "Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts" (in
> <a804e20a-da35-89f0-a70d-2e5c1d3a4...@sys-concept.com>):
> 
> [snip]
>> It seems to me the problem is the creator of the pdf document (on my
>> system): pdfTeX-1.40.16 or cairo 1.9.5
> 
> Cairo should not be part of the problem. It is a vector rendering
> library. The part of X.Org that renders text is Pango.
> 
>> Viewing these document via evnce, gv, gimp etc it show normal, nice
>> fonts; but when I open (same document) locally created via "flpsed" the
>> fonts are very rough.
>>
>> When I try to open any other PDF file via "flpsed", not created by me,
>> the fonts are nice looking.
> 
> Okay, I think we are getting somewhere now.
> 
> If evince shows the documents well, but flpsed does not, it would seem
> to me that the documents contain ambiguous font information. The other
> PDF viewers [evince, gv, etc.] seem able to resolve the ambiguity, but
> flpsed does not. This would indicate that the documents are not well formed.
> 
> Can you try another PDF builder, such as LibreOffice or OpenOffice?
> 
> If flpsed renders these PDF's well then your PDF builder is at fault. It
> is putting into the documents font specifications that do not match the
> installed fonts. The other PDF viewers possibly use a fuzzy matching
> algorithm that overcomes the ambiguity to select a suitable font.

Yes, I think this is the correct conclusion.
I created PDF file using OpenOffice:
Creator:OpenOffice 4.1.2
and flpsed displays the fonts very nice.

The two PFD documents that I created using both versions of Firefox:
www-client/firefox
www-client/firefox-bin

from pdfinfo:
Producer:   cairo 1.9.5 (using Firefox)
Producer:   pdfTeX-1.40.16 (using Firefox)

Both files are having problem viewing fonts using "flpsed".

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Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts

2017-03-07 Thread David W Noon
On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 14:20:54 -0700, Thelma (the...@sys-concept.com) wrote
about "Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts" (in
<a804e20a-da35-89f0-a70d-2e5c1d3a4...@sys-concept.com>):

[snip]
> It seems to me the problem is the creator of the pdf document (on my
> system): pdfTeX-1.40.16 or cairo 1.9.5

Cairo should not be part of the problem. It is a vector rendering
library. The part of X.Org that renders text is Pango.

> Viewing these document via evnce, gv, gimp etc it show normal, nice
> fonts; but when I open (same document) locally created via "flpsed" the
> fonts are very rough.
> 
> When I try to open any other PDF file via "flpsed", not created by me,
> the fonts are nice looking.

Okay, I think we are getting somewhere now.

If evince shows the documents well, but flpsed does not, it would seem
to me that the documents contain ambiguous font information. The other
PDF viewers [evince, gv, etc.] seem able to resolve the ambiguity, but
flpsed does not. This would indicate that the documents are not well formed.

Can you try another PDF builder, such as LibreOffice or OpenOffice?

If flpsed renders these PDF's well then your PDF builder is at fault. It
is putting into the documents font specifications that do not match the
installed fonts. The other PDF viewers possibly use a fuzzy matching
algorithm that overcomes the ambiguity to select a suitable font.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts

2017-03-07 Thread thelma
On 03/07/2017 01:47 PM, David W Noon wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 13:19:33 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com
> (the...@sys-concept.com) wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts:
> 
> [snip]
>> fc-list | egrep 'Helvetica' | sort
> 
> This last one should give you what you need:
> 
>> /usr/share/fonts/Helvetica/Helvetica.pfa:Helvetica:style=Regular
> 
>> The display far from samples fonts on wiki :-/

Sorry, was typing fast. I mean to say the display fonts via flpsed are
not what is shown on wiki pages.

> 
> I don't understand the above sentence.

It seems to me the problem is the creator of the pdf document (on my
system): pdfTeX-1.40.16 or cairo 1.9.5

Viewing these document via evnce, gv, gimp etc it show normal, nice
fonts; but when I open (same document) locally created via "flpsed" the
fonts are very rough.

When I try to open any other PDF file via "flpsed", not created by me,
the fonts are nice looking.

So, maybe I'm looking in a wrong place.

Here what is on my system:
qlist -C -I texlive

app-text/texlive
app-text/texlive-core
dev-texlive/texlive-basic
dev-texlive/texlive-fontsrecommended
dev-texlive/texlive-fontutils
dev-texlive/texlive-genericrecommended
dev-texlive/texlive-htmlxml
dev-texlive/texlive-langenglish
dev-texlive/texlive-latex
dev-texlive/texlive-latexrecommended
dev-texlive/texlive-metapost
dev-texlive/texlive-pictures
dev-texlive/texlive-texinfo

Maybe I'm missing something.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts

2017-03-07 Thread David W Noon
On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 13:19:33 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com
(the...@sys-concept.com) wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts:

[snip]
> fc-list | egrep 'Helvetica' | sort

This last one should give you what you need:

> /usr/share/fonts/Helvetica/Helvetica.pfa:Helvetica:style=Regular

> The display far from samples fonts on wiki :-/

I don't understand the above sentence.

> I've run into one posting suggesting use of "-xfl" flag in fltk -
> package http://git.net/ml/lib.fltk.general/2004-08/msg00155.html

Was that post about flpsed?

> so I compiled  x11-libs/fltk without xfl but it did not make any
> difference.

The flag is named xft. It won't help unless flpsed is written in C++ and
uses the fltk toolkit.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts

2017-03-07 Thread thelma
On 03/07/2017 12:47 PM, David W Noon wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 11:49:44 -0700, Thelma (the...@sys-concept.com) wrote
> about "Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts" (in
> <d2e38e1a-c8c8-13a8-1d74-eaf61fe6f...@sys-concept.com>):
> 
[snip]
> 
> Try the following, to see what fontconfig has cached:
> 
>  fc-list | egrep 'Helvetica' | sort | less

fc-list | egrep 'Helvetica' | sort
It shows them all:

/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvB08-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvB08.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvB10-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvB10.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvB12-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvB12.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvB14-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvB14.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvB18-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvB18.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvB24-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvB24.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvBO08-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvBO08.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvBO10-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvBO10.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvBO12-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvBO12.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvBO14-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvBO14.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvBO18-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvBO18.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvBO24-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvBO24.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvO08-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvO08.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvO10-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvO10.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvO12-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvO12.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvO14-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvO14.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvO18-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvO18.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvO24-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvO24.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvR08-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Regular
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvR08.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Regular
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvR10-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Regular
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvR10.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Regular
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvR12-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Regular
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvR12.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Regular
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvR14-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Regular
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvR14.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Regular
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvR18-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Regular
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvR18.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Regular
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvR24-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Regular
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/helvR24.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Regular
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvB08-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvB08.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvB10-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvB10.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvB12-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvB12.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvB14-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvB14.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvB18-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvB18.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvB24-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvB24.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvBO08-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvBO08.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvBO10-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvBO10.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvBO12-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: Helvetica:style=Bold Oblique
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvBO12.pcf.gz: Helvetica:s

Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts

2017-03-07 Thread David W Noon
On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 11:49:44 -0700, Thelma (the...@sys-concept.com) wrote
about "Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts" (in
<d2e38e1a-c8c8-13a8-1d74-eaf61fe6f...@sys-concept.com>):

[snip]
>> I would start by deleting the *.ttf files in that directory (or move
>> them elsewhere) and refreshing the font cache again.
> 
> I removed them.
> I have bunch of font helvetica:
> find /usr/share/fonts/ -iname helv*
> /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvBO12-ISO8859-14.pcf.gz
> /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvB18-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz
> /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvR24-ISO8859-14.pcf.gz
> /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvBO10-ISO8859-4.pcf.gz
> /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvR08-ISO8859-3.pcf.gz
> /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvO14-ISO8859-3.pcf.gz
> /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvB24-ISO8859-4.pcf.gz
> /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvR14-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz
> /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvB12-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz
> /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvBO10-ISO8859-15.pcf.gz
> /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvB18-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz
> /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvR10-ISO8859-14.pcf.gz
> /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvR12-ISO8859-15.pcf.gz

Try the following, to see what fontconfig has cached:

 fc-list | egrep 'Helvetica' | sort | less

> So which group do they belong to?

The fonts above belong to the package media-fonts/fonts-adobe-75dpi.
These are fonts optimized for rendering on display devices that have a
pixel density of 75 dots per inch (dpi). A qlist for that package
indicates that they do not have a fontconfig .conf file. However,
fontconfig does cache them, since /usr/share/fonts is named in
/etc/fonts/fonts.conf.

> eselect fontconfig list
[snip]

The fonts configured by eselect are "exotic" fonts that are added to
fontconfig. They are of no importance here.

> I don't see anything starting with "helv"

You won't see any such entry.

> Maybe they are not enabled in my system?

Run the fc-list command, as I suggested above. That will show you every
font that purports to offer the Helvetica type face plus any other font
attributes.

Just to show you what to expect from Helvetica and Arial, here are a
couple of Wikipedia articles:

 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helvetica>
 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arial>

These articles contain sample text rendered in the respective fonts.
This will help you recognize Helvetica when you get it working.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts

2017-03-07 Thread thelma
On 03/06/2017 02:08 PM, Corbin Bird wrote:
> On 03/06/2017 01:27 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>> Which package contain "Helvetica" font?
>>
>> I'm using "flpsed" and apparently it is using Helvetica font, which
>> "eselect fontconfig list" is not showing anything that resemble "helvet"
>> "eix helvet" is not showing anything either.
>>
>> The fonts in "flpsed" display are very rugged/pixelated, it is hard to
>> look at them.
>>
> 
> This font package works for Helvetica deps in Mozilla / Firefox && CUPS.
> 
> "media-fonts/liberation-fonts"
> 
> 
> Reference Link :
> https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/media-fonts/liberation-fonts
> 
> 
> Corbin


Yes, in the past "media-fonts/liberation-fonts"
Installed versions:  2.00.1-r1(10:28:40 PM 05/08/2015)(X -fontforge)

solved the problem, but it is not working this time.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts

2017-03-07 Thread thelma



Thelma
On 03/07/2017 10:12 AM, David W Noon wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 16:41:06 -0700, Thelma (the...@sys-concept.com) wrote
> about "Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts" (in
> <860e60f9-c35e-24cb-0de7-0ecc3de8b...@sys-concept.com>):
> 
> [snip]
>> I've emerge htmldoc copied their fonts to /usr/share/fonts/Helvetica/
>> unmerged htmldoc
>> run: fc-cache -fv
>>
>> But the fonts in "flpsed" are still same looking (not impressive).
>>
>> I've the following fonts installed:
>> ll /usr/share/fonts/Helvetica/
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31741 Mar  6 16:24 Helvetica.afm
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31586 Mar  6 16:24 Helvetica-Bold.afm
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31896 Mar  6 16:24 Helvetica-BoldOblique.afm
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 77039 Mar  6 16:24 Helvetica-BoldOblique.pfa
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 70803 Mar  6 16:24 Helvetica-Bold.pfa
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 39520 Mar  6 13:04 'Helvetica Neu Bold.ttf'
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 39520 Mar  6 13:04 HelveticaNeueBd.ttf
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 38016 Mar  6 13:04 'HelveticaNeue BlackCond.ttf'
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 39568 Mar  6 13:04 HelveticaNeueHv.ttf
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 43148 Mar  6 13:04 HelveticaNeueIt.ttf
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 40104 Mar  6 13:04 'HelveticaNeue Light.ttf'
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 40104 Mar  6 13:04 HelveticaNeueLt.ttf
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 39656 Mar  6 13:04 'HelveticaNeue Medium.ttf'
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 39656 Mar  6 13:04 HelveticaNeueMed.ttf
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 40144 Mar  6 13:04 'HelveticaNeue Thin.ttf'
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 41180 Mar  6 13:04 HelveticaNeue.ttf
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32044 Mar  6 13:56 helvetica-normal-58bdcca3a92e8.ttf
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32097 Mar  6 16:24 Helvetica-Oblique.afm
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 75595 Mar  6 16:24 Helvetica-Oblique.pfa
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 70952 Mar  6 16:24 Helvetica.pfa
>>
>> So I don't know what fonts it is looking for.
> 
> You have a bunch of TrueType fonts in that list. Helvetica is not a
> TrueType font, but an Adobe Postscript font. The nearest TrueType font
> to Helvetica is probably Arial. However, flpsed is definitely looking
> for Helvetica, not Arial.
> 
> I would start by deleting the *.ttf files in that directory (or move
> them elsewhere) and refreshing the font cache again.

I removed them.
I have bunch of font helvetica:
find /usr/share/fonts/ -iname helv*
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvBO12-ISO8859-14.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvB18-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvR24-ISO8859-14.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvBO10-ISO8859-4.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvR08-ISO8859-3.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvO14-ISO8859-3.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvB24-ISO8859-4.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvR14-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvB12-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvBO10-ISO8859-15.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvB18-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvR10-ISO8859-14.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/helvR12-ISO8859-15.pcf.gz
...

So which group do they belong to?

eselect fontconfig list
Available fontconfig .conf files (* is enabled):
  [1]   10-autohint.conf
  [2]   10-no-sub-pixel.conf
  [3]   10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf *
  [4]   10-sub-pixel-bgr.conf
  [5]   10-sub-pixel-rgb.conf
  [6]   10-sub-pixel-vbgr.conf
  [7]   10-sub-pixel-vrgb.conf
  [8]   10-unhinted.conf
  [9]   11-lcdfilter-default.conf
  [10]  11-lcdfilter-legacy.conf
  [11]  11-lcdfilter-light.conf
  [12]  20-unhint-small-dejavu-sans.conf
  [13]  20-unhint-small-dejavu-sans-mono.conf
  [14]  20-unhint-small-dejavu-serif.conf
  [15]  20-unhint-small-vera.conf *
  [16]  25-ttf-arphic-ukai-render.conf
  [17]  25-ttf-arphic-uming-bitmaps.conf
  [18]  25-ttf-arphic-uming-render.conf
  [19]  25-unhint-nonlatin.conf
  [20]  30-metric-aliases.conf *
  [21]  30-urw-aliases.conf *
  [22]  35-ttf-arphic-ukai-aliases.conf
  [23]  35-ttf-arphic-uming-aliases.conf
  [24]  40-nonlatin.conf *
  [25]  41-ttf-arphic-ukai.conf
  [26]  41-ttf-arphic-uming.conf
  [27]  42-luxi-mono.conf *
  [28]  45-latin.conf *
  [29]  49-sansserif.conf *
  [30]  50-user.conf *
  [31]  51-local.conf *
  [32]  57-dejavu-sans.conf
  [33]  57-dejavu-sans-mono.conf
  [34]  57-dejavu-serif.conf
  [35]  60-latin.conf *
  [36]  60-liberation.conf *
  [37]  64-ttf-arphic-uming.conf
  [38]  65-fonts-persian.conf *
  [39]  65-khmer.conf
  [40]  65-nonlatin.conf *
  [41]  69-unifont.conf *
  [42]  70-no-bitmaps.conf
  [43]  70-yes-bitmaps.conf
  [44]  75-ttf-arphic-ukai-select.conf
  [45]  75-yes-terminus.conf
  [46]  80-delicious.conf *
  [47]  90-synthetic.conf *
  [48]  90-ttf-arphic-ukai-embolden.conf
  [49]  90-ttf-arphic-uming-embolden.conf
  [50]  99pdftoopvp.conf

I don't see anything starting with "helv"
Maybe they are not enabled in my system?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts

2017-03-07 Thread David W Noon
On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 16:41:06 -0700, Thelma (the...@sys-concept.com) wrote
about "Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts" (in
<860e60f9-c35e-24cb-0de7-0ecc3de8b...@sys-concept.com>):

[snip]
> I've emerge htmldoc copied their fonts to /usr/share/fonts/Helvetica/
> unmerged htmldoc
> run: fc-cache -fv
> 
> But the fonts in "flpsed" are still same looking (not impressive).
> 
> I've the following fonts installed:
> ll /usr/share/fonts/Helvetica/
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31741 Mar  6 16:24 Helvetica.afm
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31586 Mar  6 16:24 Helvetica-Bold.afm
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31896 Mar  6 16:24 Helvetica-BoldOblique.afm
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 77039 Mar  6 16:24 Helvetica-BoldOblique.pfa
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 70803 Mar  6 16:24 Helvetica-Bold.pfa
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 39520 Mar  6 13:04 'Helvetica Neu Bold.ttf'
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 39520 Mar  6 13:04 HelveticaNeueBd.ttf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 38016 Mar  6 13:04 'HelveticaNeue BlackCond.ttf'
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 39568 Mar  6 13:04 HelveticaNeueHv.ttf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 43148 Mar  6 13:04 HelveticaNeueIt.ttf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 40104 Mar  6 13:04 'HelveticaNeue Light.ttf'
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 40104 Mar  6 13:04 HelveticaNeueLt.ttf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 39656 Mar  6 13:04 'HelveticaNeue Medium.ttf'
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 39656 Mar  6 13:04 HelveticaNeueMed.ttf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 40144 Mar  6 13:04 'HelveticaNeue Thin.ttf'
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 41180 Mar  6 13:04 HelveticaNeue.ttf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32044 Mar  6 13:56 helvetica-normal-58bdcca3a92e8.ttf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32097 Mar  6 16:24 Helvetica-Oblique.afm
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 75595 Mar  6 16:24 Helvetica-Oblique.pfa
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 70952 Mar  6 16:24 Helvetica.pfa
> 
> So I don't know what fonts it is looking for.

You have a bunch of TrueType fonts in that list. Helvetica is not a
TrueType font, but an Adobe Postscript font. The nearest TrueType font
to Helvetica is probably Arial. However, flpsed is definitely looking
for Helvetica, not Arial.

I would start by deleting the *.ttf files in that directory (or move
them elsewhere) and refreshing the font cache again.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts

2017-03-06 Thread thelma
On 03/06/2017 02:42 PM, David W Noon wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 13:50:33 -0700, Thelma (the...@sys-concept.com) wrote
> about "Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts" (in
> <169d7ee4-a369-de54-3f4c-daafc5474...@sys-concept.com>):
> 
>> On 03/06/2017 01:33 PM, David W Noon wrote:
>>> On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 12:27:23 -0700, Thelma (the...@sys-concept.com) wrote
>>> about "[gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts" (in
>>> <527dc91e-d02e-4dc8-8f22-d24d16018...@sys-concept.com>):
>>>
>>>> Which package contain "Helvetica" font?
>>>
>>> app-text/htmldoc
>>
>> No, "htmldoc" doesn't have any helvetica fonts
> 
> Actually, it does. Here is an extract from the qlist for that package:
> 
>  /usr/share/htmldoc/fonts/Helvetica.afm
>  /usr/share/htmldoc/fonts/Helvetica-Bold.afm
>  /usr/share/htmldoc/fonts/Helvetica-BoldOblique.afm
>  /usr/share/htmldoc/fonts/Helvetica-BoldOblique.pfa
>  /usr/share/htmldoc/fonts/Helvetica-Bold.pfa
>  /usr/share/htmldoc/fonts/Helvetica-Oblique.afm
>  /usr/share/htmldoc/fonts/Helvetica-Oblique.pfa
>  /usr/share/htmldoc/fonts/Helvetica.pfa
> 
>> flpsed - is hard coded use: FL_HELVETICA
> 
> That would seem to be a particular recension of Helvetica. The one
> supplied by htmldoc is the Adobe original. Note that Helvetica is also
> called Swiss.

OK, you proved me wrong :-/
I've emerge htmldoc copied their fonts to /usr/share/fonts/Helvetica/
unmerged htmldoc
run: fc-cache -fv

But the fonts in "flpsed" are still same looking (not impressive).

I've the following fonts installed:
ll /usr/share/fonts/Helvetica/
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31741 Mar  6 16:24 Helvetica.afm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31586 Mar  6 16:24 Helvetica-Bold.afm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31896 Mar  6 16:24 Helvetica-BoldOblique.afm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 77039 Mar  6 16:24 Helvetica-BoldOblique.pfa
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 70803 Mar  6 16:24 Helvetica-Bold.pfa
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 39520 Mar  6 13:04 'Helvetica Neu Bold.ttf'
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 39520 Mar  6 13:04 HelveticaNeueBd.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 38016 Mar  6 13:04 'HelveticaNeue BlackCond.ttf'
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 39568 Mar  6 13:04 HelveticaNeueHv.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 43148 Mar  6 13:04 HelveticaNeueIt.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 40104 Mar  6 13:04 'HelveticaNeue Light.ttf'
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 40104 Mar  6 13:04 HelveticaNeueLt.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 39656 Mar  6 13:04 'HelveticaNeue Medium.ttf'
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 39656 Mar  6 13:04 HelveticaNeueMed.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 40144 Mar  6 13:04 'HelveticaNeue Thin.ttf'
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 41180 Mar  6 13:04 HelveticaNeue.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32044 Mar  6 13:56 helvetica-normal-58bdcca3a92e8.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32097 Mar  6 16:24 Helvetica-Oblique.afm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 75595 Mar  6 16:24 Helvetica-Oblique.pfa
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 70952 Mar  6 16:24 Helvetica.pfa

So I don't know what fonts it is looking for.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts

2017-03-06 Thread David W Noon
On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 14:25:49 -0700, Thelma (the...@sys-concept.com) wrote
about "Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts" (in
<9e705dc8-2c68-1f9b-d690-3171da36b...@sys-concept.com>):

> According to this post:
> http://www.flpsed.org/lists/flpsed/0018.html

If you read that message you will see that you do *NOT* want a font
called "helvetica".

Instead, you want a font called "Helvetica". Do you see the difference?
Welcome to UNIX. ... :-)

> It is hardcoded with "FL_HELVETICA"; what "FL" stands for?

That is a mnemonic prefix for a C manifest constant. Unfortunately, it
is only mnemonic to the developers of flpsed; it means nothing to the
rest of us.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts

2017-03-06 Thread David W Noon
On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 13:50:33 -0700, Thelma (the...@sys-concept.com) wrote
about "Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts" (in
<169d7ee4-a369-de54-3f4c-daafc5474...@sys-concept.com>):

> On 03/06/2017 01:33 PM, David W Noon wrote:
>> On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 12:27:23 -0700, Thelma (the...@sys-concept.com) wrote
>> about "[gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts" (in
>> <527dc91e-d02e-4dc8-8f22-d24d16018...@sys-concept.com>):
>>
>>> Which package contain "Helvetica" font?
>>
>> app-text/htmldoc
> 
> No, "htmldoc" doesn't have any helvetica fonts

Actually, it does. Here is an extract from the qlist for that package:

 /usr/share/htmldoc/fonts/Helvetica.afm
 /usr/share/htmldoc/fonts/Helvetica-Bold.afm
 /usr/share/htmldoc/fonts/Helvetica-BoldOblique.afm
 /usr/share/htmldoc/fonts/Helvetica-BoldOblique.pfa
 /usr/share/htmldoc/fonts/Helvetica-Bold.pfa
 /usr/share/htmldoc/fonts/Helvetica-Oblique.afm
 /usr/share/htmldoc/fonts/Helvetica-Oblique.pfa
 /usr/share/htmldoc/fonts/Helvetica.pfa

> flpsed - is hard coded use: FL_HELVETICA

That would seem to be a particular recension of Helvetica. The one
supplied by htmldoc is the Adobe original. Note that Helvetica is also
called Swiss.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts

2017-03-06 Thread thelma
On 03/06/2017 02:10 PM, Mick wrote:
> On Monday 06 Mar 2017 13:50:33 the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>> On 03/06/2017 01:33 PM, David W Noon wrote:
>>> On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 12:27:23 -0700, Thelma (the...@sys-concept.com) wrote
>>> about "[gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts" (in
>>>
>>> <527dc91e-d02e-4dc8-8f22-d24d16018...@sys-concept.com>):
>>>> Which package contain "Helvetica" font?
>>>
>>> app-text/htmldoc
>>
>> No, "htmldoc" doesn't have any helvetica fonts
>> flpsed - is hard coded use: FL_HELVETICA
>>
>> --
>> Thelma
> 
> According to:
> 
> find /usr/share/fonts/ -iname helv*
> 
> /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/ and /usr/share/fonts/75dpi seem to contain hevetica.

Yes, I have them installed, so I don't know why "flpsed" is showing such
an ugly fonts.
According to this post:
http://www.flpsed.org/lists/flpsed/0018.html

It is hardcoded with "FL_HELVETICA"; what "FL" stands for?

In the past installing "media-fonts/liberation-fonts" which I have
solved the problem, but it is not working now.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts

2017-03-06 Thread Mick
On Monday 06 Mar 2017 13:50:33 the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> On 03/06/2017 01:33 PM, David W Noon wrote:
> > On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 12:27:23 -0700, Thelma (the...@sys-concept.com) wrote
> > about "[gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts" (in
> > 
> > <527dc91e-d02e-4dc8-8f22-d24d16018...@sys-concept.com>):
> >> Which package contain "Helvetica" font?
> > 
> > app-text/htmldoc
> 
> No, "htmldoc" doesn't have any helvetica fonts
> flpsed - is hard coded use: FL_HELVETICA
> 
> --
> Thelma

According to:

find /usr/share/fonts/ -iname helv*

/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/ and /usr/share/fonts/75dpi seem to contain hevetica.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts

2017-03-06 Thread Corbin Bird
On 03/06/2017 01:27 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> Which package contain "Helvetica" font?
> 
> I'm using "flpsed" and apparently it is using Helvetica font, which
> "eselect fontconfig list" is not showing anything that resemble "helvet"
> "eix helvet" is not showing anything either.
> 
> The fonts in "flpsed" display are very rugged/pixelated, it is hard to
> look at them.
> 

This font package works for Helvetica deps in Mozilla / Firefox && CUPS.

"media-fonts/liberation-fonts"


Reference Link :
https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/media-fonts/liberation-fonts


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Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts

2017-03-06 Thread thelma
On 03/06/2017 01:33 PM, David W Noon wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 12:27:23 -0700, Thelma (the...@sys-concept.com) wrote
> about "[gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts" (in
> <527dc91e-d02e-4dc8-8f22-d24d16018...@sys-concept.com>):
> 
>> Which package contain "Helvetica" font?
> 
> app-text/htmldoc

No, "htmldoc" doesn't have any helvetica fonts
flpsed - is hard coded use: FL_HELVETICA

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Re: [gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts

2017-03-06 Thread David W Noon
On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 12:27:23 -0700, Thelma (the...@sys-concept.com) wrote
about "[gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts" (in
<527dc91e-d02e-4dc8-8f22-d24d16018...@sys-concept.com>):

> Which package contain "Helvetica" font?

app-text/htmldoc
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[gentoo-user] Helvetica fonts

2017-03-06 Thread thelma
Which package contain "Helvetica" font?

I'm using "flpsed" and apparently it is using Helvetica font, which
"eselect fontconfig list" is not showing anything that resemble "helvet"
"eix helvet" is not showing anything either.

The fonts in "flpsed" display are very rugged/pixelated, it is hard to
look at them.

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