Re: [gentoo-user] Initramfs or move /usr to /, oh my...

2012-03-21 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 03/21/2012 03:02 AM, Joshua Murphy wrote: 1) make backups and... 1.a) verify backups... consider this my disclaimer... 2) mkdir /mnt/root-bind/ /mnt/usr-bind/ 3) mount --bind / /mnt/root-bind/ 4) mount --bind /usr/ /mnt/usr-bind/ 5) rsync --archive --hard-links --sparse --progress

Re: [gentoo-user] Initramfs or move /usr to /, oh my...

2012-03-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 22:02:31 -0400, Joshua Murphy wrote: 1) make backups and... 1.a) verify backups... consider this my disclaimer... 2) mkdir /mnt/root-bind/ /mnt/usr-bind/ 3) mount --bind / /mnt/root-bind/ 4) mount --bind /usr/ /mnt/usr-bind/ 4a) mount /usr -o remount,ro Makes sure

Re: [gentoo-user] Initramfs or move /usr to /, oh my...

2012-03-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 02:28:20 +0100, Sebastian Pipping wrote: A manual initramfs is not that easy, no. And it becomes outdated more easily than an initramfs-creator-based approach. If you keep a separate directory for your initramfs files, this is true. But if your initramfs config is a list

Re: [gentoo-user] Initramfs or move /usr to /, oh my...

2012-03-20 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 03/20/2012 09:43 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: If you keep a separate directory for your initramfs files, this is true. But if your initramfs config is a list of files to include, the current versions of everything will always be included. Fair point. Best, Sebastian

Re: [gentoo-user] Initramfs or move /usr to /, oh my...

2012-03-20 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote: On 03/18/2012 06:44 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: snip On that note - is it possible, and if so, does anyone have any decent detailed How-to's on how I might be able to convert a separate /user to one on directly on / on a

Re: [gentoo-user] Initramfs or move /usr to /, oh my...

2012-03-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 21:57:39 -0400 (EDT), Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: How do I find out if I am actually *using* an initramfs right now (I know it is built into the kernel), and ls -l /boot/ will tell you. No it won't, as the initramfs can be built into the kernel image. There is a

Re: [gentoo-user] Initramfs or move /usr to /, oh my...

2012-03-19 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 03/18/2012 06:44 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: Ok, I have never used genkernel, and have no desire to... I have no idea what dracut is or how to use it... While genkernel also can generate kernel configs for you, both dracut and genkernel are initramfs creators: they take repeated creation (after

[gentoo-user] Initramfs or move /usr to /, oh my...

2012-03-18 Thread Tanstaafl
Creating a new thread for this questions since mine got lost in all of the follow-ups... I would really appreciate a meaningful response to this question (maybe I should go ask this on -dev?) - this has the potential to lose me forever as a gentoo user (I'm sure none of you are crying over

Re: [gentoo-user] Initramfs or move /usr to /, oh my...

2012-03-18 Thread felix
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 01:44:07PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: Creating a new thread for this questions since mine got lost in all of the follow-ups... I would really appreciate a meaningful response to this question (maybe I should go ask this on -dev?) - this has the potential to lose me

Re: [gentoo-user] Initramfs or move /usr to /, oh my...

2012-03-18 Thread Jarry
On 18-Mar-12 18:44, Tanstaafl wrote: How do I find out if I am actually *using* an initramfs right now (I know it is built into the kernel), Just guessing: If you do not know, then you are probably not using it... Jarry -- ___ This

Re: [gentoo-user] Initramfs or move /usr to /, oh my...

2012-03-18 Thread Alex Schuster
Tanstaafl writes: On 2012-03-17 12:11 AM, Bruce Hill, Jr. da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: An initramfs which does this is created by =sys-kernel/genkernel-3.4.25.1 or =sys-kernel/dracut-017-r1. If you do not want to use these tools, be sure any initramfs you create

Re: [gentoo-user] Initramfs or move /usr to /, oh my...

2012-03-18 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: [snip] Ok, I have never used genkernel, and have no desire to... I have no idea what dracut is or how to use it... I have a remote system that has /usr on a separate partition. So... How do I find out if I am

Re: [gentoo-user] Initramfs or move /usr to /, oh my...

2012-03-18 Thread Dale
Tanstaafl wrote: Creating a new thread for this questions since mine got lost in all of the follow-ups... I would really appreciate a meaningful response to this question (maybe I should go ask this on -dev?) - this has the potential to lose me forever as a gentoo user (I'm sure none of you

Re: [gentoo-user] Initramfs or move /usr to /, oh my...

2012-03-18 Thread Bruce Hill, Jr.
On March 18, 2012 at 2:52 PM Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: [snip] Ok, I have never used genkernel, and have no desire to... I have no idea what dracut is or how to use it... I have a remote