On 22 August 2013, at 17:08, hasufell wrote:
… I was arguing from both sides. It is buggy, crashes a lot, consumes a
lot of ressources and is able to slow down your whole desktop, mess with
audio settings and whatnot.
My granny never had these problems, using Skype on her PC.
She uses it to
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On 08/23/13 13:21, Stroller wrote:
On 22 August 2013, at 17:08, hasufell wrote:
… I was arguing from both sides. It is buggy, crashes a lot,
consumes a lot of ressources and is able to slow down your whole
desktop, mess with audio settings and
Well... Nowadays RAM is so cheap that this is really no issue. Most recent
Computers ship at last with 4 GB so what the Heck.
That aside, jitsi runs on Java and the Java vm is not really leightweight
either.
the the.gu...@mail.ru schrieb:
My granny never had these problems, using Skype
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On 08/23/13 14:39, Marc Stürmer wrote:
Well... Nowadays RAM is so cheap that this is really no issue.
Most recent Computers ship at last with 4 GB so what the Heck.
Does that mean that I should buy hardware to match
software requirements?
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On 23.08.2013 14:50, the wrote:
On 08/23/13 14:39, Marc Stürmer wrote:
Well... Nowadays RAM is so cheap that this is really no issue.
Most recent Computers ship at last with 4 GB so what the Heck.
Does that mean that I should buy hardware to match
software requirements?
Has it ever been
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On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 14:50:27 +0400, the wrote:
Does that mean that I should buy hardware to match
software requirements?
Hasn't that always been the case? What other reason would you have for
buying hardware?
The point is, Skype is there. no one
On 23.08.2013 13:42, the wrote:
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On 08/23/13 13:21, Stroller wrote:
On 22 August 2013, at 17:08, hasufell wrote:
… I was arguing from both sides. It is buggy, crashes a lot,
consumes a lot of ressources and is able to slow down your whole
desktop,
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On 08/23/13 15:10, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
On 23.08.2013 14:50, the wrote:
On 08/23/13 14:39, Marc Stürmer wrote:
Well... Nowadays RAM is so cheap that this is really no issue.
Most recent Computers ship at last with 4 GB so what the Heck.
No IT simply means that you are overwxaggerating the RAM usage and its
importance a Lot. Most gentoo Users are Used to Compile their own Binaries.
A Task which Uses quite some time, horse Power and RAM. Which means that
the average computer running gentoo also should have enough Power to Run
On 23/08/2013 15:18, Marc Stürmer wrote:
No IT simply means that you are overwxaggerating the RAM usage and its
importance a Lot. Most gentoo Users are Used to Compile their own
Binaries. A Task which Uses quite some time, horse Power and RAM. Which
means that the average computer running
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On 08/23/13 15:25, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
On 23.08.2013 13:42, the wrote:
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On 08/23/13 13:21, Stroller wrote:
On 22 August 2013, at 17:08, hasufell wrote:
… I was arguing from both sides. It is
Am 23.08.2013 15:21, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
tr 'A-Z' 'a-z' I think your keyboard is broken. Your Shift key is
doing odd things and typing CAPS when you obviously didn't intend
More like of my virtual keyboard on my smartphone, anyways... nice to be
back on my real keyboard once more again.
Am 23.08.2013 12:50, schrieb the:
Does that mean that I should buy hardware to match software requirements?
Do you really want to tell me that you are still working on a Pentium
133 with maybe 64 MB of RAM?
I mean it has always been like that: people buy indeed hardware to match
software
On 08/23/2013 05:48 PM, Marc Stürmer wrote:
Am 23.08.2013 12:50, schrieb the:
Does that mean that I should buy hardware to match software requirements?
Do you really want to tell me that you are still working on a Pentium
133 with maybe 64 MB of RAM?
I mean it has always been like that:
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On 08/23/13 19:48, Marc Stürmer wrote:
Am 23.08.2013 12:50, schrieb the:
Does that mean that I should buy hardware to match software
requirements?
Do you really want to tell me that you are still working on a
Pentium 133 with maybe 64 MB of
On 23.08.2013 19:58, hasufell wrote:
On 08/23/2013 05:48 PM, Marc Stürmer wrote:
Am 23.08.2013 12:50, schrieb the:
[ ... ]
The point for Skype, last time I am going to repeat that, is that it
works out of the box for the normal user and the large user base.
And that is still wrong. If it
On 08/23/2013 08:09 PM, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
On 23.08.2013 19:58, hasufell wrote:
On 08/23/2013 05:48 PM, Marc Stürmer wrote:
Am 23.08.2013 12:50, schrieb the:
[ ... ]
The point for Skype, last time I am going to repeat that, is that it
works out of the box for the normal user and the
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 08:59:07AM +0200, Jean-Christophe Bach wrote:
Well, it depends on what you call a replacement: Jitsi and Ekiga can do
the work as well as Skype, but not with the Skype protocol and
network. But if your contacts do not care about it, it's ok.
I tried Jitsi last year
Am 20.08.2013 17:12, schrieb Randy Westlund:
For a multitude of reasons, I'd like to get rid of skype. I've heard several
people mention jitsi, but was surprised to find that it's not in the portage
tree.
Well, there's always been something being called a Skype killer over the
last few
On 08/22/2013 05:49 PM, Marc Stürmer wrote:
And why not? Because most users just want a program that works right out
of the box for them without problems and Skype is just that. It went
great lengths to achieve this goal.
You probably missed those hundreds of bugs we devs and also users were
Am 22.08.2013 17:58, schrieb hasufell:
You probably missed those hundreds of bugs we devs and also users were
faced with, including linkage against non-existing sonames, random
crashes and breakage when the binary is stripped.
So this is somewhat wrong information. It's like saying windows
On 08/22/2013 06:05 PM, Marc Stürmer wrote:
Am 22.08.2013 17:58, schrieb hasufell:
You probably missed those hundreds of bugs we devs and also users were
faced with, including linkage against non-existing sonames, random
crashes and breakage when the binary is stripped.
So this is somewhat
Am 22.08.2013 18:08, schrieb hasufell:
I was arguing from both sides. It is buggy, crashes a lot, consumes a
lot of ressources and is able to slow down your whole desktop, mess with
audio settings and whatnot.
Well, your opinion. In my opinion the ease of use out of the box for the
end user
On 08/22/2013 06:11 PM, Marc Stürmer wrote:
Am 22.08.2013 18:08, schrieb hasufell:
I was arguing from both sides. It is buggy, crashes a lot, consumes a
lot of ressources and is able to slow down your whole desktop, mess with
audio settings and whatnot.
Well, your opinion.
Proven by
* the the.gu...@mail.ru [21.08.2013. @09:35:09 +0400]:
On 08/20/13 19:12, Randy Westlund wrote:
For a multitude of reasons, I'd like to get rid of skype. I've
heard several people mention jitsi, but was surprised to find that
it's not in the portage tree.
Is jitsi being actively
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Am Wed, 21 Aug 2013 09:35:09 +0400
schrieb the the.gu...@mail.ru:
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On 08/20/13 19:12, Randy Westlund wrote:
For a multitude of reasons, I'd like to get rid of skype. I've
heard several people
On 08/20/2013 05:12 PM, Randy Westlund wrote:
I've heard several people mention jitsi, but was surprised to find that it's
not in the portage tree.
Jitsi is written in java and thus by design buggy, bloated and hard to
maintain.
If you care a lot, you can propose it in sunrise user overlay
* hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org [21.08.2013. @16:48:10 +0200]:
On 08/20/2013 05:12 PM, Randy Westlund wrote:
I've heard several people mention jitsi, but was surprised to find that
it's not in the portage tree.
Jitsi is written in java and thus by design buggy, bloated and hard to
On 08/21/2013 05:59 PM, Jean-Christophe Bach wrote:
* hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org [21.08.2013. @16:48:10 +0200]:
On 08/20/2013 05:12 PM, Randy Westlund wrote:
I've heard several people mention jitsi, but was surprised to find that
it's not in the portage tree.
Jitsi is written in java
On Wednesday 21 August 2013 18:17:53 hasufell wrote:
The average java application is buggy, bloated and hard to maintain. And
that is a fact you have to realize as a distributor.
Okay, then do you consider Jitsi average or not? I'm about to try it.
For a multitude of reasons, I'd like to get rid of skype. I've heard several
people mention jitsi, but was surprised to find that it's not in the portage
tree.
Is jitsi being actively maintained in an overlay somewhere? Are there plans to
put jitsi in the main tree?
Are there other other
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On 08/20/13 19:12, Randy Westlund wrote:
For a multitude of reasons, I'd like to get rid of skype.
Fun fact.
When I installed Syser (mustdie kernel debugger), Skype began to
complain about it.
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Stop talking and start compiling.
Linux user
On Tuesday 20 August 2013 11:12:32 Randy Westlund wrote:
For a multitude of reasons, I'd like to get rid of skype. I've heard
several people mention jitsi, but was surprised to find that it's not in
the portage tree.
Is jitsi being actively maintained in an overlay somewhere? Are there
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On 08/20/13 19:12, Randy Westlund wrote:
For a multitude of reasons, I'd like to get rid of skype. I've
heard several people mention jitsi, but was surprised to find that
it's not in the portage tree.
Is jitsi being actively maintained in an
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