Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-03-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 12:22 AM William Kenworthy wrote: > > I thought lizardfs was much more community minded > but you are characterising it as similar to moosefs - a taster offering > by a commercial company holding back some of the non-essential but > jucier features for the paid version - is

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-03-01 Thread n952162
Sorry for the presumption. On 2020-03-02 01:08, Daniel Frey wrote: On 3/1/20 7:40 AM, n952162 wrote: "within the country"?  :-)  You must be American? No. Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-03-01 Thread William Kenworthy
On 2/3/20 10:40 am, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 8:52 PM William Kenworthy wrote: For those wanting to run a lot of drives on a single host - that defeats the main advantage of using a chunkserver based filesystem - redundancy. Its far more common to have a host fail than a

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-03-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 8:52 PM William Kenworthy wrote: > > For those wanting to run a lot of drives on a single host - that defeats > the main advantage of using a chunkserver based filesystem - > redundancy. Its far more common to have a host fail than a disk drive. > Losing the major part of

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-03-01 Thread William Kenworthy
I am going to answer multiple points below: On 1/3/20 11:36 pm, Daniel Frey wrote: On 3/1/20 6:33 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 2:13 AM William Kenworthy wrote: Keep in mind that rpi are not the only cheap, capable arm hardware out there. I am in Oz, delivery from

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-03-01 Thread Daniel Frey
On 3/1/20 7:40 AM, n952162 wrote: "within the country"?  :-)  You must be American? No. Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-03-01 Thread n952162
"within the country"?  :-)  You must be American? On 2020-03-01 16:38, Daniel Frey wrote: On 2/29/20 11:13 PM, William Kenworthy wrote: Keep in mind that rpi are not the only cheap, capable arm hardware out there. I am using a number of odroid devices, including an N2 with a gentoo based

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-03-01 Thread Daniel Frey
On 2/29/20 11:13 PM, William Kenworthy wrote: Keep in mind that rpi are not the only cheap, capable arm hardware out there. I am using a number of odroid devices, including an N2 with a gentoo based kernel and a gentoo aarch64 userland.  Its used for lxc containers for asterisk, dns, webdav,

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-03-01 Thread Daniel Frey
On 3/1/20 6:33 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 2:13 AM William Kenworthy wrote: Keep in mind that rpi are not the only cheap, capable arm hardware out there. I completely agree. Anytime I'm looking at an application I consider the SBCs available as options. Certainly the

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-03-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 2:13 AM William Kenworthy wrote: > > Keep in mind that rpi are not the only cheap, capable arm hardware out > there. > I completely agree. Anytime I'm looking at an application I consider the SBCs available as options. Certainly the odroids are highly spoken of. Main

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-03-01 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 1 March 2020 10:46:17 GMT Dale wrote: >> >> Could you share some links to some of these things? As I mentioned >> earlier, I'm thinking about building a NAS system. Later, I may build a >> mythTV system. Then I can access the NAS from it or my desktop, or cell >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-03-01 Thread Dale
n952162 wrote: > > On 2020-03-01 11:46, Dale wrote: >> ...  now that I am somewhat more updated, past the Motorola Razr stage. >> Thanks much. >> >> Dale >> >> :-)  :-) >> > > Which Razr do you mean? > > Are you 9 years (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droid_Razr) or 16 years > out of date?

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-03-01 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 1 March 2020 10:46:17 GMT Dale wrote: > William Kenworthy wrote: > > On 29/2/20 11:31 pm, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 10:17 AM Daniel Frey wrote: > >>> Yes, I'm aware linux does VLANs... I set up netifrc to do this (I > >>> already have some "smart" switches set up

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-03-01 Thread n952162
On 2020-03-01 11:46, Dale wrote: ...  now that I am somewhat more updated, past the Motorola Razr stage. Thanks much. Dale :-)  :-) Which Razr do you mean? Are you 9 years (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droid_Razr) or 16 years out of date? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Razr)

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-03-01 Thread Dale
William Kenworthy wrote: > On 29/2/20 11:31 pm, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 10:17 AM Daniel Frey wrote: >>> Yes, I'm aware linux does VLANs... I set up netifrc to do this (I >>> already have some "smart" switches set up - not full layer 3.) I thought >>> about running

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-02-29 Thread William Kenworthy
On 29/2/20 11:31 pm, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 10:17 AM Daniel Frey wrote: >> Yes, I'm aware linux does VLANs... I set up netifrc to do this (I >> already have some "smart" switches set up - not full layer 3.) I thought >> about running containers but if I ever have to do

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-02-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 10:17 AM Daniel Frey wrote: > > Yes, I'm aware linux does VLANs... I set up netifrc to do this (I > already have some "smart" switches set up - not full layer 3.) I thought > about running containers but if I ever have to do something like > emergency maintenance on my

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-02-29 Thread Daniel Frey
On 2/28/20 5:38 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 8:11 PM Daniel Frey wrote: Thanks for the detail, I've just ordered an RPi4B to mess around with. It would be helpful to move DNS etc off my home server as I'm trying to separate everything into VLANs. Keep in mind that Linux

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-02-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 8:11 PM Daniel Frey wrote: > > Thanks for the detail, I've just ordered an RPi4B to mess around with. > It would be helpful to move DNS etc off my home server as I'm trying to > separate everything into VLANs. > Keep in mind that Linux supports VLAN tagging, so if you set

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-02-28 Thread Daniel Frey
On 2/27/20 1:49 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 4:25 PM james wrote: Yea, I was not clear. I'd run the mail-server, on a 'cluster' (4 or more), not an individual pi-board unless it was beef up, processor and ram wise. Gig E would also be on my list. Unless you have some

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-02-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 28 February 2020 13:28:53 GMT Wols Lists wrote: > On 28/02/20 11:45, Michael wrote: --->8 > > http://www.runmapglobal.com/blog/fault-tolerant-dedicated-servers/ > > Noted. That link pre-dates me working on the site - I haven't checked > all the old links - I guess I should ... If

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-02-28 Thread Wols Lists
On 28/02/20 11:45, Michael wrote: > On Friday, 28 February 2020 11:04:43 GMT Wols Lists wrote: >> On 28/02/20 05:07, james wrote: >>> For data storage, long term important stuff, you should employ RAID >>> (1-10). We can get into that later, duplication of important data, via >>> backups or extra

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-02-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 6:09 AM Wols Lists wrote: > > On 27/02/20 21:49, Rich Freeman wrote: > > A fairly cheap amd64 system can run a ton of services in containers > > though, and it is way simpler to maintain that way. I still get quick > > access to snapshots/etc, but now if I want to run a

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-02-28 Thread Michael
On Friday, 28 February 2020 11:04:43 GMT Wols Lists wrote: > On 28/02/20 05:07, james wrote: > > For data storage, long term important stuff, you should employ RAID > > (1-10). We can get into that later, duplication of important data, via > > backups or extra storage is a good idea too. Backups

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-02-28 Thread Wols Lists
On 27/02/20 21:49, Rich Freeman wrote: > A fairly cheap amd64 system can run a ton of services in containers > though, and it is way simpler to maintain that way. I still get quick > access to snapshots/etc, but now if I want to run a gentoo container > it is no big deal if 99% of the time it

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-02-28 Thread Wols Lists
On 28/02/20 05:07, james wrote: > For data storage, long term important stuff, you should employ RAID > (1-10). We can get into that later, duplication of important data, via > backups or extra storage is a good idea too. Backups are an old > technology, but may help, but backups do can get old

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-02-28 Thread Michael
On Friday, 28 February 2020 05:07:07 GMT james wrote: > On 2/27/20 9:53 PM, Dale wrote: > > james wrote: > >> 5G + gentoo + embedded toys, is going to be FUN FUN FUN. > >> > >> > >> Then I'll be off to other states, via a hacked out Redneck > >> camper.. and too many microProcessors > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-02-27 Thread james
On 2/27/20 9:53 PM, Dale wrote: james wrote: 5G + gentoo + embedded toys, is going to be FUN FUN FUN. Then I'll be off to other states, via a hacked out Redneck camper.. and too many microProcessors Thanks Rich, your insights and comments are always most welcome. James Off

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-02-27 Thread Dale
james wrote: > > > 5G + gentoo + embedded toys, is going to be FUN FUN FUN. > > > Then I'll be off to other states, via a hacked out Redneck > camper.. and too many microProcessors > > > Thanks Rich, your insights and comments are always most welcome. > > > James Off topic a bit but a

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-02-27 Thread james
On 2/27/20 4:49 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 4:25 PM james wrote: Yea, I was not clear. I'd run the mail-server, on a 'cluster' (4 or more), not an individual pi-board unless it was beef up, processor and ram wise. Gig E would also be on my list. Unless you have some

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-02-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 4:25 PM james wrote: > > Yea, I was not clear. I'd run the mail-server, on a 'cluster' (4 or > more), not an individual pi-board unless it was beef up, processor and > ram wise. Gig E would also be on my list. > Unless you have some niche need I wouldn't generally run

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-02-27 Thread james
On 2/27/20 2:51 PM, Ralph Seichter wrote: * ai...@aisha.cc: I'm not too sure that running it as a mail server is impossible. I never wrote that it is impossible, only that "I would not use it as an Internet-facing production Mailserver". That's a huge difference. You are free to do as you

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-02-27 Thread Ralph Seichter
* ai...@aisha.cc: > I'm not too sure that running it as a mail server is impossible. I never wrote that it is impossible, only that "I would not use it as an Internet-facing production Mailserver". That's a huge difference. You are free to do as you wish, but I still consider it an unsuitable

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-02-27 Thread aisha
I'm not too sure that running it as a mail server is impossible. Depending on your expected traffic level, it should be more than capable enough to do it. My current server is only a 1 core + 1 GB VPS, which is much more lax than a pi-4. Depending on what guides you follow you can definitely

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-02-27 Thread Ralph Seichter
* james: > I'm thinking about setting up a pair of Rasp-Pi-4 as DNS servers with > 4GB of ram. Is that enough ram for a DNS server? For running the Nameservers, yes. Compiling Gentoo packages will likely put your SD-Card under stress, but that's just how it goes. My Model B Rev 2 of 2015 runs

[gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

2020-02-26 Thread james
I'm thinking about setting up a pair of Rasp-Pi-4 as DNS servers with 4GB of ram. Is that enough ram for a DNS server? https://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-4GB-Starter-MAX/dp/B07XPHWPRB https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Embedded_systems/ARM_hardware_list If 4GB is not enough, there are some