[gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list

2009-09-26 Thread Jonathan Callen
Eric Martin wrote: > Actually, /bin/bash is a symlink -> /bin/dash on Ubuntu so dash (Debian > ash) is the default shell on Ubuntu (and either dash or ash is on > Debian). I found that out the hard way when I was scripting and some > bash stuff wouldn't work properly. > No, /bin/bash is *always*

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list

2009-09-26 Thread Eric Martin
walt wrote: > On 09/20/2009 05:40 PM, Dale wrote: >> walt wrote: >>> In linux bash is the default shell (even sh is a symlink to bash) >>> but in >>> other OS's other default shells prevail. > > Okay, okay, Alan, you're right, I have not tried every linux distro > out there, > but when I was a linu

[gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list

2009-09-20 Thread walt
On 09/20/2009 05:40 PM, Dale wrote: walt wrote: On 09/20/2009 02:51 PM, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: The reason you don't see bash in ps is because you are not running bash. I do, but you obviously don't. What shell does root use per /etc/passwd? This one: root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/b

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list

2009-09-20 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Monday 21 September 2009 02:11:51 walt wrote: > >> On 09/20/2009 02:51 PM, Dale wrote: >> >>> Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> The reason you don't see bash in ps is because you are not running bash. I do, but you obviously don't. What shell does root use

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list

2009-09-20 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 01:01:09 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > /bin/bash is also shown in htop even though bash isn't in any runlevel either ;) >>> Not here. >>> >> Now that was pointless. Whatever shell you're using, geez, seriously..

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list

2009-09-20 Thread Dale
walt wrote: > On 09/20/2009 02:51 PM, Dale wrote: >> Alan McKinnon wrote: > >>> The reason you don't see bash in ps is because you are not running >>> bash. I do, >>> but you obviously don't. What shell does root use per /etc/passwd? >>> >> This one: >> >> root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash >> >> Look

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list

2009-09-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 21 September 2009 02:11:51 walt wrote: > On 09/20/2009 02:51 PM, Dale wrote: > > Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> The reason you don't see bash in ps is because you are not running bash. > >> I do, but you obviously don't. What shell does root use per /etc/passwd? > > > > This one: > > > > root:

[gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list

2009-09-20 Thread walt
On 09/20/2009 02:51 PM, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: The reason you don't see bash in ps is because you are not running bash. I do, but you obviously don't. What shell does root use per /etc/passwd? This one: root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash Looks like bash. ;-) I assume this is the d

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list

2009-09-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 01:01:09 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> /bin/bash is also shown in htop even though bash isn't in any > >> runlevel either ;) > > > > Not here. > > Now that was pointless. Whatever shell you're using, geez, seriously... Not quite, it demonstrated the error in assum

[gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list

2009-09-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/20/2009 10:54 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:51:17 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: /bin/bash is also shown in htop even though bash isn't in any runlevel either ;) Not here. Now that was pointless. Whatever shell you're using, geez, seriously...

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list

2009-09-20 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sunday 20 September 2009 22:06:44 Dale wrote: > >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:51:17 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>> /bin/bash is also shown in htop even though bash isn't in any runlevel either ;) >>> Not h

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list

2009-09-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 20 September 2009 22:06:44 Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:51:17 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> /bin/bash is also shown in htop even though bash isn't in any runlevel > >> either ;) > > > > Not here. > > This is all I get for bash: > > r...@smoker / #

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list

2009-09-20 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:51:17 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > >> /bin/bash is also shown in htop even though bash isn't in any runlevel >> either ;) >> > > Not here. > > > This is all I get for bash: r...@smoker / # ps aux | grep bash dale 7254 0.0 0.0

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list

2009-09-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:51:17 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > /bin/bash is also shown in htop even though bash isn't in any runlevel > either ;) Not here. -- Neil Bothwick In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.

[gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list

2009-09-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/20/2009 09:45 PM, Philip Webb wrote: 090920 Neil Bothwick wrote: Dbus doesn't need to be put in any runlevel, it will be started when hald needs it. I was wondering why Htop shows it, but it isn't in the default runlevel. /bin/bash is also shown in htop even though bash isn't in any ru

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list

2009-09-20 Thread Philip Webb
090920 Neil Bothwick wrote: > Dbus doesn't need to be put in any runlevel, > it will be started when hald needs it. I was wondering why Htop shows it, but it isn't in the default runlevel. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, P

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list

2009-09-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 20:50:02 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: > Lots of other things use them as well - not just X, so thats not a > reason (and lots of systems that dont have X but need dbus and hal). I > would like to know why they are started in the default run-level, not at > boot which seems

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list

2009-09-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 20 September 2009 14:50:02 William Kenworthy wrote: > On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 15:40 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > On 09/20/2009 03:34 PM, William Kenworthy wrote: > > > Is there a "reference" list of what services should be started in which > > > runlevels? I am interested in hald an

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list

2009-09-20 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 15:40 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 09/20/2009 03:34 PM, William Kenworthy wrote: > > Is there a "reference" list of what services should be started in which > > runlevels? I am interested in hald and dbus in particular. > > > > Googling shows mostly people set them to

[gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list

2009-09-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/20/2009 03:34 PM, William Kenworthy wrote: Is there a "reference" list of what services should be started in which runlevels? I am interested in hald and dbus in particular. Googling shows mostly people set them to the default runlevel, but I would like a reference or reason ... The rea