Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-14 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 14 September 2023 10:49:35 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday, 13 September 2023 16:14:09 BST Michael wrote: > > I recall this being discussed in a previous thread, but if your CPU has 24 > > threads and you've set: > > > > EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--jobs=4 --load-average=32 > >

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-14 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday, 13 September 2023 16:14:09 BST Michael wrote: > I recall this being discussed in a previous thread, but if your CPU has 24 > threads and you've set: > > EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--jobs=4 --load-average=32 > MAKEOPTS="-j14" > > You will be asking emerge to run up to 4 x 14 = 56

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-13 Thread Kristian Poul Herkild
Hi. Nothing compares to Chromium (browser) in terms of compilation times. On my system with 12 core threads it takes about 8 hours to compile - which is 4 times longer than 10 years ago with 2 core threads ;) Libreoffice takes a few hours, but less than half of chromium. Nothing gets close

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-13 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 13 September 2023 13:41:00 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday, 13 September 2023 12:50:20 BST Wols Lists wrote: > > On 13/09/2023 12:28, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > A thought on compiling, which I hope some devs will read: I was tempted > > > to > > > push the system hard at

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-13 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday, 13 September 2023 12:50:20 BST Wols Lists wrote: > On 13/09/2023 12:28, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > A thought on compiling, which I hope some devs will read: I was tempted to > > push the system hard at first, with load average and jobs as high as I > > thought I could set them. I've

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-13 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 12:50:20PM +0100 schrieb Wols Lists: > Bear in mind a lot of systems are thermally limited and can't run at full > pelt anyway ... Usually those are space-constrained systems like mini PCs or laptops. Typical Desktops shouldn’t be limited; even the stock CPU coolers

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-13 Thread Wols Lists
On 13/09/2023 12:28, Peter Humphrey wrote: A thought on compiling, which I hope some devs will read: I was tempted to push the system hard at first, with load average and jobs as high as I thought I could set them. I've come to believe, though, that job control by portage and /usr/bin/make is

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-13 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:08:49 BST Wol wrote: > There's all sorts of tricks, some work for some people, others work for > others. Quite so. Here I have two swap partitions: 8GB priority 20 on NVME and 50GB priority 10 on SSD. I've never noticed either of them being used, so I suppose I

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-12 Thread Wol
On 11/09/2023 20:46, Alan McKinnon wrote: qtwebengine! yes that one took forever also. It also said my 16G of RAM was smaller than the 16G it needed. Weird. Anyways I enabled a swapfile and left it to run overnight 16GB physical ram <> 16GB usable ram for the compile ... I concur with

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-12 Thread Jacques Montier
Le mar. 12 sept. 2023, 12:14, Peter Humphrey a écrit : > On Monday, 11 September 2023 22:22:28 BST Michael wrote: > > > There's also the option of using bin alternatives where available, e.g. > > google-chrome, firefox-bin, libreoffice-bin. > > ...and rust-bin, which is now the default in at

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-12 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 11 September 2023 22:22:28 BST Michael wrote: > There's also the option of using bin alternatives where available, e.g. > google-chrome, firefox-bin, libreoffice-bin. ...and rust-bin, which is now the default in at least some desktop profiles. -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 1:05 AM Ramon Fischer wrote: > You may also want to take a look at "distcc", with which you can set up > compiler farms; this can be even combined with "ccache": > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Distcc#With_ccache > > -Ramon > Hi Ramon, distcc is way more than I

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-11 Thread Ramon Fischer
You may also want to take a look at "distcc", with which you can set up compiler farms; this can be even combined with "ccache":     https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Distcc#With_ccache -Ramon On 11/09/2023 23:46, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 11:23 PM Michael wrote: On

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 11:23 PM Michael wrote: > On Monday, 11 September 2023 21:21:47 BST Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 10:05 PM Neil Bothwick > wrote: > > > On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 21:19:27 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > > chromium has been building since 10:14, it's now

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-11 Thread Michael
On Monday, 11 September 2023 21:21:47 BST Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 10:05 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 21:19:27 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > chromium has been building since 10:14, it's now 21:16 and still going > > > so 9 hours at least on this

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 10:05 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 21:19:27 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > chromium has been building since 10:14, it's now 21:16 and still going > > so 9 hours at least on this machine to build a browser - almost as bad > > as openoffice at it's worst

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 21:19:27 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > chromium has been building since 10:14, it's now 21:16 and still going > so 9 hours at least on this machine to build a browser - almost as bad > as openoffice at it's worst (regularly took 12 hours). Nodejs also took > a while, but I

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
qtwebengine! yes that one took forever also. It also said my 16G of RAM was smaller than the 16G it needed. Weird. Anyways I enabled a swapfile and left it to run overnight Alan On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 9:31 PM Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > After my long time away from Gentoo, I

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-11 Thread Ramon Fischer
In addition to the reference to "qlop":     $ qlop ungoogled-chromium | tail     2022-08-04T19:58:22 >>> www-client/ungoogled-chromium: 9:06:54     2022-08-05T14:27:44 >>> www-client/ungoogled-chromium: 16:19:06     2022-08-25T11:45:37 >>> www-client/ungoogled-chromium: 8:01:54    

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-11 Thread Ramon Fischer
Hi Alan, just quick and dirty, I am too tired for formalities. :) The following list contains packages, that may be too big for tmpfs and are most probably very time consuming to compile:     $ < /etc/portage/package.env/no_tmpfs.conf     # custom - 20181121 - rfischer: list packages, which

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-11 Thread Siddhanth Rathod
Chromium and qtwebengine have the longest build times that I have encountered On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 at 1:01 AM, Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > After my long time away from Gentoo, I thought perhaps some packages that > always took ages to compile would have improved. I needed to change to

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-11 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > After my long time away from Gentoo, I thought perhaps some packages > that always took ages to compile would have improved. I needed to > change to ~amd64 anyway (dumb n00b mistake leaving it at amd64). So > that's what I did and let emerge do it's thing. > > chromium has

[gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
After my long time away from Gentoo, I thought perhaps some packages that always took ages to compile would have improved. I needed to change to ~amd64 anyway (dumb n00b mistake leaving it at amd64). So that's what I did and let emerge do it's thing. chromium has been building since 10:14, it's