Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-25 Thread Tom Smith
Uwe Thiem wrote: On 25 January 2006 06:46, Tom Smith wrote: I read something some time ago that suggested if you transfer a compressed file over a compressed SFTP connection, for example, that it would take longer to transfer the data versus if only the data or the connection was compressed.

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-25 Thread Alexander Skwar
Trenton Adams wrote: Not possible on a windows machine. :P Wrong. Alexander Skwar -- printk(KERN_WARNING Warning: defective CD-ROM (volume sequence number). Enabling \cruft\ mount option.\n); linux-2.2.16/fs/isofs/inode.c -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-25 Thread John Jolet
I read something some time ago that suggested if you transfer a compressed file over a compressed SFTP connection, for example, that it would take longer to transfer the data versus if only the data or the connection was compressed. The reason, as I recall, had to do with compressing already

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-25 Thread Jeff
It brings me great joy to know that my original post has spawned such madness. :-) John Jolet wrote: I read something some time ago that suggested if you transfer a compressed file over a compressed SFTP connection, for example, that it would take longer to transfer the data versus if only

[gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Jeff
Hey guys. I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard drive to store a tar file. I'd like to pipe a tar through ssh, but not sure what the command would be. Something to the effect of: # cat /var/backup | ssh backup.homelan.com 'tar data.info.gz' So that, the data is

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread John Jolet
On Jan 24, 2006, at 10:57 AM, Jeff wrote: Hey guys. I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard drive to store a tar file. I'd like to pipe a tar through ssh, but not sure what the command would be. Something to the effect of: # cat /var/backup | ssh

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Tom Smith
Jeff wrote: Hey guys. I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard drive to store a tar file. I'd like to pipe a tar through ssh, but not sure what the command would be. Something to the effect of: # cat /var/backup | ssh backup.homelan.com 'tar data.info.gz' So that, the

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Francesco Riosa
Jeff wrote: Hey guys. I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard drive to store a tar file. I'd like to pipe a tar through ssh, but not sure what the command would be. Something to the effect of: # cat /var/backup | ssh backup.homelan.com 'tar data.info.gz' So

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Francesco Riosa
Not possible. Wrong, we are unix sysadmins, the thing that more nearly resemble that is : I've not time to do that ;-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread John Jolet
On Jan 24, 2006, at 11:20 AM, Tom Smith wrote: Jeff wrote: Hey guys. I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard drive to store a tar file. I'd like to pipe a tar through ssh, but not sure what the command would be. Something to the effect of: # cat /var/backup |

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Tom Smith
John Jolet wrote: On Jan 24, 2006, at 11:20 AM, Tom Smith wrote: Jeff wrote: Hey guys. I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard drive to store a tar file. I'd like to pipe a tar through ssh, but not sure what the command would be. Something to the effect of:

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Jeff
Tom you big jerk. LOL! jk man... Well, I would call it, piping through a tunnel? Tunneling through a pipe? The concept seems very *nix-like to me. *shrug* Thanks to all... wish me luck! Tom Smith wrote: John Jolet wrote: On Jan 24, 2006, at 11:20 AM, Tom Smith wrote: Jeff wrote: Hey

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread John Jolet
On Jan 24, 2006, at 11:46 AM, Tom Smith wrote: John Jolet wrote: On Jan 24, 2006, at 11:20 AM, Tom Smith wrote: Jeff wrote: Hey guys. I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard drive to store a tar file. I'd like to pipe a tar through ssh, but not sure what

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:20:10 -0700, Tom Smith wrote: Not possible. Why, is he using Windows? I don't know how != not possible. -- Neil Bothwick Voting Democrat or Republican is like choosing a cabin in the Titanic. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Tom Smith
John Jolet wrote: On Jan 24, 2006, at 11:46 AM, Tom Smith wrote: John Jolet wrote: On Jan 24, 2006, at 11:20 AM, Tom Smith wrote: Jeff wrote: Hey guys. I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard drive to store a tar file. I'd like to pipe a tar through ssh,

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread John Jolet
Well, perhaps old school has different meanings to different people. :-) I was referring to the UNIX tools philosophy in which each program has a very specific use, similar to qmail (the original, unmodified qmail, that is). And this is usually the direction I take when looking for tools to

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Jeff
This example that Francesco illustrates seems to work pretty well. I guess my main concern was with tar - would it be able to handle a filesystem this large? Myself, I haven't seen or heard any scary stories thus far. Anyone shed light on tar limitations? Thanks for all the colorful replies. :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Jeff
DUH ME! Open mouth, insert face... Ok, what I *meant* to say from post #1, is, the filesystem I'm tarballing is quite large - 25g. The tar command should be able to digest this, yes? Should I be worried? Thanks again all. Jeff wrote: This example that Francesco illustrates seems to work pretty

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread John Jolet
On Jan 24, 2006, at 2:22 PM, Jeff wrote: This example that Francesco illustrates seems to work pretty well. I guess my main concern was with tar - would it be able to handle a filesystem this large? Myself, I haven't seen or heard any scary stories thus far. Anyone shed light on tar

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Ernst Herzberg
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 21:40, Jeff wrote: DUH ME! Open mouth, insert face... Ok, what I *meant* to say from post #1, is, the filesystem I'm tarballing is quite large - 25g. The tar command should be able to digest this, yes? Should I be worried? Last week i back'ed up a machine with 4

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Trenton Adams
Not possible on a windows machine. :P -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Tom Smith
Ernst Herzberg wrote: On Tuesday 24 January 2006 21:40, Jeff wrote: DUH ME! Open mouth, insert face... Ok, what I *meant* to say from post #1, is, the filesystem I'm tarballing is quite large - 25g. The tar command should be able to digest this, yes? Should I be worried? Last week i

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread John Jolet
On Jan 24, 2006, at 5:25 PM, Iain Buchanan wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 17:23 +, Francesco Riosa wrote: Jeff wrote: Hey guys. I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard drive to store a tar file. I'd like to pipe a tar through ssh, but not sure what the

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Eric Bliss
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 03:45 pm, John Jolet wrote: (now, if only I'd backed up yesterday, before I did an accidental `rm *` instead of `rm *~`) good thing none of US has ever done that...as root from the / on a running production serverin the middle of month-end --

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 17:23 +, Francesco Riosa wrote: Jeff wrote: Hey guys. I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard drive to store a tar file. I'd like to pipe a tar through ssh, but not sure what the command would be. Something to the effect of: # cat

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread John Jolet
On Jan 24, 2006, at 9:10 PM, Ow Mun Heng wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 17:23 +, Francesco Riosa wrote: Jeff wrote: Hey guys. I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard drive to store a tar file. I'd like to pipe a tar through ssh, but not sure what the

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 21:19 -0600, John Jolet wrote: On Jan 24, 2006, at 9:10 PM, Ow Mun Heng wrote: There's another way. This assumes your originating server's CPU is slow/precious and you have a 16 way node on a backup server (HAHA!!) tar cf - /var/backup | ssh backup.homelan.com gzip

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Tom Smith
John Jolet wrote: On Jan 24, 2006, at 9:10 PM, Ow Mun Heng wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 17:23 +, Francesco Riosa wrote: Jeff wrote: Hey guys. I've got this big fat backup server with no space left on the hard drive to store a tar file. I'd like to pipe a tar through ssh, but not

Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh

2006-01-24 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 25 January 2006 06:46, Tom Smith wrote: I read something some time ago that suggested if you transfer a compressed file over a compressed SFTP connection, for example, that it would take longer to transfer the data versus if only the data or the connection was compressed. The reason, as I