Re: [gentoo-user] Install Advice

2007-02-20 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: Sorry, but that's never a good reason for using Gentoo. If a binary distro compiles every option under the sun then the software will still work, but the binaries might be a bit big. Compiling on your machine gives no discernable performance benefit for the average

Re: [gentoo-user] Install Advice

2007-02-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 20 February 2007, Dale wrote: Use the Live CD if you want to get a working machine quickly. If watching gcc output scroll off the screen turns you on (it does for most of us around here) then use the minimal by all means.   This is true.  Gentoo updates pretty fast.  A lot

Re: [gentoo-user] Simple Linux Router on a live CD?

2007-02-20 Thread Peter Lewis
On Tuesday 20 February 2007 00:48, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 19:46 -0300, Norberto Bensa wrote: Mikie wrote: Anyone out there know where I could DL an iso file with a simple route only linux? Is _really_ that hard to use Google? Maybe they've never heard of

Re: [gentoo-user] Install Advice

2007-02-20 Thread Michal 'vorner' Vaner
Hello, On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 02:05:26AM -0600, Dale wrote: I have to disagree with this. I used to use Mandrake and Gentoo is a *LOT* faster than Mandrake. I turned off a lot of unused services and Mandrake was still pretty slow. This is especially true if you customize all the flags you

Re: [gentoo-user] Keymap for Spanish laptop

2007-02-20 Thread Jakob Buchgraber
Grant wrote: My girlfriend is from Spain as is her laptop and many of the keys I press don't coincide with the characters printed on the screen. I changed /etc/conf.d/keymap to: KEYMAP=es and rebooted but the keymap behavior doesn't seem to have changed. Does anyone know how to fix this? -

Re: [gentoo-user] Install Advice

2007-02-20 Thread Dale
Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: Hello, On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 02:05:26AM -0600, Dale wrote: I have to disagree with this. I used to use Mandrake and Gentoo is a *LOT* faster than Mandrake. I turned off a lot of unused services and Mandrake was still pretty slow. This is especially true

Re: [gentoo-user] Simple Linux Router on a live CD?

2007-02-20 Thread Dale
Peter Lewis wrote: On Tuesday 20 February 2007 00:48, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 19:46 -0300, Norberto Bensa wrote: Mikie wrote: Anyone out there know where I could DL an iso file with a simple route only linux? Is _really_

Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild question

2007-02-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:42:13 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: 1. It's an orphan, left over from an unmerge that wasn't fully successful. if you don't need them, delete them. 2. A package was installed, and it created it's own binaries for it's own use. Portage didn't put them there so doesn't

Re: [gentoo-user] Simple Linux Router on a live CD?

2007-02-20 Thread Norberto Bensa
Peter Lewis wrote: Or maybe they actually wanted a recommendation from someone rather than just picking something off the shelf based on how good its website was. Hm. It sounded like he was lazy to do a research work. I have to confess it didn't even cross my head that OP just wanted a

Re: [gentoo-user] how do I remove evolution from gnome?

2007-02-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 20 February 2007, Ric de France wrote: Hi list(s), I was looking through the dynamic USE flag page ( http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml ), and noticed there were some flags that brought in evolution support... but after realising I don't used evolution (as I am happy with

Re: [gentoo-user] Simple Linux Router on a live CD?

2007-02-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 08:27:09 -0300, Norberto Bensa wrote: Hm. It sounded like he was lazy to do a research work. I have to confess it didn't even cross my head that OP just wanted a recommendation on available router distros. In that case, I feel very sorry. Don't be too hard on yourself,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how do I remove evolution from gnome?

2007-02-20 Thread Sean
Sven Köhler wrote: Any suggestions? I put evolution in /etc/portage/profile/package.provided. Then portage assumes, that it is installed ba hand and therefor it's not installed installed automatically. Unfortunatly, you still have to install eveolution-data-server and evolution-webcal,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how do I remove evolution from gnome?

2007-02-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 20 February 2007, Sean wrote: Sven Köhler wrote: Any suggestions? I put evolution in /etc/portage/profile/package.provided. Then portage assumes, that it is installed ba hand and therefor it's not installed installed automatically. Unfortunatly, you still have to

[gentoo-user] AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so failed

2007-02-20 Thread Konstantin Budylov
Hi ;) This error appears in my Xorg.0.log at boot time: (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file ordirectory) (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering And It seems that 3D

Re: [gentoo-user] Simple Linux Router on a live CD?

2007-02-20 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 03:23 -0600, Dale wrote: That I can understand. I sometimes want someone to tell me something good to use so I can get a unbiased opinion. Yeah except a) opinions *are* biased and b) one's opinion was never asked and c) I've observed that asking a bunch of strangers for

Re: [gentoo-user] Keymap for Spanish laptop

2007-02-20 Thread Grant
I changed /etc/conf.d/keymap to: KEYMAP=es and rebooted but the keymap behavior doesn't seem to have changed. The keymap where? The keymap on the console should be es after the above change. To change it in X too, use Option XkbLayout es in xorg.conf, or set it with 'setxkbmap es' from

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge numpy 1.0.1-r1 failing: can't find cblas

2007-02-20 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Monday 19 February 2007 19:36:35 Grant Edwards wrote: * You need to set cblas to atlas or reference. Do: *eselect cblas set impl * where impl is atlas, threaded-atlas or reference !!! ERROR: dev-python/numpy-1.0.1-r1 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1614:

[gentoo-user] Re: how do I remove evolution from gnome?

2007-02-20 Thread Sven Köhler
I put evolution in /etc/portage/profile/package.provided. Then portage assumes, that it is installed ba hand and therefor it's not installed installed automatically. Unfortunatly, you still have to install eveolution-data-server and evolution-webcal, because it's a hard-dependency of some

[gentoo-user] how do I remove evolution from gnome?

2007-02-20 Thread Ric de France
Hi list(s), I was looking through the dynamic USE flag page ( http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml ), and noticed there were some flags that brought in evolution support... but after realising I don't used evolution (as I am happy with thunderbird), I was wondering how to remove evolution

[gentoo-user] Re: how do I remove evolution from gnome?

2007-02-20 Thread Sven Köhler
Any suggestions? I put evolution in /etc/portage/profile/package.provided. Then portage assumes, that it is installed ba hand and therefor it's not installed installed automatically. Unfortunatly, you still have to install eveolution-data-server and evolution-webcal, because it's a

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome and Portage issues

2007-02-20 Thread Gyuszk
Bo Ørsted Andresen írta: On Monday 19 February 2007 22:40:32 Gyuszk wrote: As this email is clear text, I cannot mark, but from the USE flags, it is obvious that Portage now considers all my USE flag demands, although emerge -pvN world don't. That is what I don't understand. You

Re: [gentoo-user] Simple Linux Router on a live CD?

2007-02-20 Thread Peter Lewis
On Tuesday 20 February 2007 11:44, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 08:27:09 -0300, Norberto Bensa wrote: Hm. It sounded like he was lazy to do a research work. I have to confess it didn't even cross my head that OP just wanted a recommendation on available router distros. In that

Re: [gentoo-user] how do I remove evolution from gnome?

2007-02-20 Thread Jürgen Geuter
On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 22:09 +1100, Ric de France wrote: Hossa. It's just that I'm having a hard time from figuring out which USE flags (if any) to remove to get rid of evolution... Any suggestions? You could use gnome-base/gnome-light, which is basically (quote from the ebuild): # This is

Re: [gentoo-user] Which wireless cardbus?

2007-02-20 Thread Stroller
On 19 Feb 2007, at 23:15, Mick wrote: ... You don't state which model of Belkin you tried, but I can assure you that they do a set (USB, cardbus, PCI) of 802.11g cards that are excellently supported by the rt2500 drivers. These are excellent, are OSS you can get them with `emerge rt2500`.

Re: [gentoo-user] HP Cluster on Gentoo

2007-02-20 Thread Hans-Stefan Bauer
Hallo, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. schrieb: On Monday 19 February 2007 02:47, Hans-Stefan Bauer wrote: storm1 hsbauer # /etc/init.d/gfs start * Starting gfs cluster: * Loading lock_dlm kernel module ... FATAL: Error inserting lock_dlm (/fs/gfs_locking/lock_dlm/lock_dlm.ko): Unknown symbol in

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge numpy 1.0.1-r1 failing: can't find cblas

2007-02-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-02-20, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 19 February 2007 19:36:35 Grant Edwards wrote: * You need to set cblas to atlas or reference. Do: *eselect cblas set impl * where impl is atlas, threaded-atlas or reference !!! ERROR:

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge dazuko 2.3.x with kernel 2.6.20

2007-02-20 Thread Ralph Seichter
Peter Ruskin wrote: No, it doesn't look familiar - I had no problems at all I wonder... Could you please check your kernel configuration? /usr/src/linux-2.6.20-gentoo # grep CONFIG_SECURITY .config CONFIG_SECURITY=y CONFIG_SECURITY_NETWORK=y CONFIG_SECURITY_NETWORK_XFRM=y

Re: [gentoo-user] HP Cluster on Gentoo

2007-02-20 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:33:32 +0100 Hans-Stefan Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Merging sys-cluster/dlm-kernel-1.03.00 to / --- /cluster/ /cluster/dlm.ko Hm. What does uname -r say on your system? What's /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/source linked to? Valid kernel location? -hwh --

[gentoo-user] Re: Simple Linux Router on a live CD?

2007-02-20 Thread James
Peter Lewis prlewis at letterboxes.org writes: No, I didn't mean it as a criticism anyway. I just find that it helps to assume the best on mailing lists. It all helps for a happy community. Dear Pompous Jerks: The arrogance of these responses is astounding. Does anyone believe in civility

Re: [gentoo-user] HP Cluster on Gentoo

2007-02-20 Thread Hans-Stefan Bauer
Hallo, Hans-Werner Hilse schrieb: Hi, On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:33:32 +0100 Hans-Stefan Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Merging sys-cluster/dlm-kernel-1.03.00 to / --- /cluster/ /cluster/dlm.ko Hm. What does uname -r say on your system? What's /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/source linked

[gentoo-user] XV locks up X server after recent update

2007-02-20 Thread Grant Edwards
After an update a coule days ago, any attempt to use the XV extension (xine, mplayer, etc.) locks up the X server hard (100% CPU usage). Until the update a couple days ago XV had worked with no problems for about 14 months on this machine. I've rolled xorg-server back to 1.1.1-r1, but that

[gentoo-user] Re: XV locks up X server after recent update

2007-02-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-02-20, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither the ati-drivers version nor kernel has changed. Bzzt, wrong! The ati-drivers package was updated from 8.27.10-r1 to 8.32.5. Rolling it back to 8.27.10-r1 made xv work again. The lock up occurred with xorg-xserver versions

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Simple Linux Router on a live CD?

2007-02-20 Thread Peter Lewis
James, On Tuesday 20 February 2007 15:46, James wrote: Peter Lewis prlewis at letterboxes.org writes: No, I didn't mean it as a criticism anyway. I just find that it helps to assume the best on mailing lists. It all helps for a happy community. Dear Pompous Jerks: Are you including me in

[gentoo-user] No more ASCII progress bar for Suspend2 hibernate

2007-02-20 Thread Henk Boom
Hi, I have just done an emerge -uDNav world, and when I hibernate (suspend2) with the 'hibernate' script, it no longer displays the progress bar showing how long it will take to finish. I am using suspend2-sources-2.6.17-r6, and I have not re-compiled my kernel since the emerge. Its sources are

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Simple Linux Router on a live CD?

2007-02-20 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 15:46 +, James wrote: Dear Pompous Jerks: [...] Does anyone believe in civility any more? My apologies. And thanks for setting a standard that we all may follow. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] No more ASCII progress bar for Suspend2 hibernate

2007-02-20 Thread Michal 'vorner' Vaner
Hello, On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 02:44:21PM -0500, Henk Boom wrote: Hi, I have just done an emerge -uDNav world, and when I hibernate (suspend2) with the 'hibernate' script, it no longer displays the progress bar showing how long it will take to finish. I am using suspend2-sources-2.6.17-r6,

Re: [gentoo-user] HP Cluster on Gentoo

2007-02-20 Thread Zac Slade
On Monday 19 February 2007 02:47:03 Hans-Stefan Bauer wrote:  * Loading lock_dlm kernel module ... FATAL: Error inserting lock_dlm (/fs/gfs_locking/lock_dlm/lock_dlm.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)  * Failed to load lock_dlm kernel module                        

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Simple Linux Router on a live CD?

2007-02-20 Thread Mark Kirkwood
James wrote: Besides, Gentoo's greatest strength is the help the community provides to one another. +1 I think the friendly, helpful attitude of the list is exactly as it should be - given that it's list aimed at providing help to all users. It would be ok to be a bit rougher on a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Simple Linux Router on a live CD?

2007-02-20 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Mark Kirkwood wrote: given that it's list aimed at providing help to all users. Sorry - should read: given that it's *a* list aimed at providing help to all users. (I'm hoping for a grammar checker in Thunderbird) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] HP Cluster on Gentoo

2007-02-20 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 20 February 2007, Hans-Stefan Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] HP Cluster on Gentoo': Hallo, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. schrieb: On Monday 19 February 2007 02:47, Hans-Stefan Bauer wrote: storm1 hsbauer # /etc/init.d/gfs start * Starting gfs cluster: *

[gentoo-user] --depclean and virtual/glibc problems

2007-02-20 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi, I'm facing a few last problems as I clean this machine up. The machine is completely sync'ed and emerged. revdep-rebuild tells me things are cool but then --depclean complains about needing virtual/glibc and using emerge depends suggests it really is needed but eix glibc doesn't show

Re: [gentoo-user] Cryptic warning message x11-drivers:ati-drivers-8.32.5 build

2007-02-20 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 10:13:36AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote Rconfigure and recompile the kernel: make menuconfig - Device Drivers - Character Devices - Direct Rendering Manager make it a module. Or, you can just deselect it as the ati drivers provide their own drm implementation. If

Re: [gentoo-user] loop devices not present

2007-02-20 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 12:35:13PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote Hi all, Kernel 2.6.20-gentoo My various /dev/loop/* devices used to always JustWork, until a recent update. Unfortunately I can't tell when the breakage happened. Right now what happens is I don't get these devices

Re: [gentoo-user] --depclean and virtual/glibc problems

2007-02-20 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 21 February 2007 02:04:12 Mark Knecht wrote: I'm facing a few last problems as I clean this machine up. The machine is completely sync'ed and emerged. revdep-rebuild tells me things are cool but then --depclean complains about needing virtual/glibc and using emerge depends

Re: [gentoo-user] Install Advice

2007-02-20 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 09:37:44AM +0100, Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote Well, yes, it may be faster a bit, like 1%, maybe 10%??? But if one distro would be unbearable slow, gentoo would be too. It won't just be faster 10 times, and yes, that 10% are nice, but not usually worth switching your

Re: [gentoo-user] --depclean and virtual/glibc problems

2007-02-20 Thread Mark Knecht
On 2/20/07, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 21 February 2007 02:04:12 Mark Knecht wrote: I'm facing a few last problems as I clean this machine up. The machine is completely sync'ed and emerged. revdep-rebuild tells me things are cool but then --depclean complains

Re: [gentoo-user] --depclean and virtual/glibc problems

2007-02-20 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 21 February 2007 03:47:05 Mark Knecht wrote: Thanks for responding. I didn't know about that option or the difference between how it's used for --depclean. Thanks.    I solved the lm_sensors one before your response came back. Unfortunately --with-bdeps=y doesn't seem to identify

Re: [gentoo-user] AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so failed

2007-02-20 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Tuesday 20 February 2007 13:43:08 Konstantin Budylov wrote: This error appears in my Xorg.0.log at boot time: (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file ordirectory) (EE) AIGLX:

Re: [gentoo-user] --depclean and virtual/glibc problems

2007-02-20 Thread Mark Knecht
On 2/20/07, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 21 February 2007 03:47:05 Mark Knecht wrote: Thanks for responding. I didn't know about that option or the difference between how it's used for --depclean. Thanks. I solved the lm_sensors one before your response came back.

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel randomly locking up, no error messeges, no panics nothing.

2007-02-20 Thread Anthony E. Caudel
Ivan Lucian Aron wrote: I turned off Preempt Big Kernel Lock earlier today, and haven't had a deadlock/crash since. Apparently that solved it.. thanks for the help/support I have an AMD Athlon 64X2 4200+ and Have the Preempt Big Kernel Lock turned on in my 2.6.19 kernel and have experienced no

Re: [gentoo-user] loop devices not present

2007-02-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 21 February 2007, Walter Dnes wrote:   If you want loopback devices to just work, they should be compiled into the kernel, like so... make menuconfig Device Drivers  --- Block devices  --- * Loopback device support   My guess is that somewhere along the line, the * got