Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Help finding a tv tuner card's chipset

2007-09-30 Thread Patrick May
On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 03:17:14PM -0500, forgottenwizard wrote: On 13:41 Sat 29 Sep , Grant Edwards wrote: On 2007-09-29, forgottenwizard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I'm using cable, I figure if I need to, in 17 month I can get a converter, or afford to buy a better card.

[gentoo-user] Duplicate mails

2007-09-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
Hi, I'm getting a lot of duplicate messages lately, especially from gentoo-users. I don't know if it's an error on my side or not. Did anyone else get 20+ copies of Grant's last mail, about backing up dot files in ~ ? alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2007-09-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 30 September 2007, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag, 30. September 2007, Grant wrote: Do you back up anything other than /etc and /home on a standard system? - Grant /var because with /var gone its complete-reinstall time. /usr/local too, otherwise you get to re-install

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate mails

2007-09-30 Thread Steve Dommett
On Sunday 30 September 2007, Alan McKinnon wrote: I'm getting a lot of duplicate messages lately, especially from gentoo-users. I don't know if it's an error on my side or not. Not here. I've never seen duplicates from any gentoo list. I /have/ seen several other folks on gentoo-user report

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate mails

2007-09-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 30 September 2007, Steve Dommett wrote: On Sunday 30 September 2007, Alan McKinnon wrote: I'm getting a lot of duplicate messages lately, especially from gentoo-users. I don't know if it's an error on my side or not. Not here. I've never seen duplicates from any gentoo list. I

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc 3.3.6 [SOLVED]

2007-09-30 Thread pat
Neil Bothwick wrote: Hello pat, I have cetrino processor and I want to update system, but it's not possible, because of gcc 3.3.6. What does this mean? What is GCC 3.3.6 doing that prevents your upgrading? Or do you mean that something wants to install gcc-3.3.6? If the latter, adding

Re: [gentoo-user] auto proxy config (Firefox, and more)

2007-09-30 Thread Benjamin Graf
Ok, I'll try with IsInNet and patience..! Thanks ! Ben 2007/9/27, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 05:26:44PM +0200, Penguin Lover Benjamin Graf squawked: Thanks for the answer ! How can I see what myIpAddress() returns ? I tried it in a simple html page

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2007-09-30 Thread Florian Philipp
Steen Eugen Poulsen schrieb: Grant skrev: Do you back up anything other than /etc and /home on a standard system? In a Gentoo system nothing is really standard, so I backup everything from / and then have a small exclude list with things like: /dev, /proc, /sys, /exports, /var/cache/squid,

Re: [gentoo-user] ext3 with errors

2007-09-30 Thread Florian Philipp
Arnau Bria schrieb: Hi, My system runs on several ext3 partitions. Last times I restart it, it has fs errors, so I have to fsck it. Now, I have a new disk and I want to set a RAID1, but first, I'm wondering what to do to save my fs consistency. So, I want to copy data from old disk to new disk,

Re: [gentoo-user] ext3 with errors

2007-09-30 Thread Dale
Florian Philipp wrote: Arnau Bria schrieb: Hi, My system runs on several ext3 partitions. Last times I restart it, it has fs errors, so I have to fsck it. Now, I have a new disk and I want to set a RAID1, but first, I'm wondering what to do to save my fs consistency. So, I want to copy data

Re: [gentoo-user] ext3 with errors

2007-09-30 Thread Florian Philipp
Dale schrieb: Florian Philipp wrote: Arnau Bria schrieb: Hi, My system runs on several ext3 partitions. Last times I restart it, it has fs errors, so I have to fsck it. Now, I have a new disk and I want to set a RAID1, but first, I'm wondering what to do to save my fs consistency. So, I want

Re: [gentoo-user] ext3 with errors

2007-09-30 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Sunday 30 September 2007, Florian Philipp wrote: Which shell do you use? Bash's default behavior (I don't know whether you can change that) is that it doesn't expand * to all files and directories but only the nonhidden. Just try the following: ls -l --directory --all ~/* On my system

Re: [gentoo-user] ext3 with errors

2007-09-30 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
Sorry, I hit send too early; my answer is missing the last part. On Sunday 30 September 2007, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: Is it possible that you mean regular expressions and not Bash's expansion feature? This is possible (well, sort of) enabling the extglob option in bash. But still, this is not

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2007-09-30 Thread Grant
Do you back up anything other than /etc and /home on a standard system? In a Gentoo system nothing is really standard, so I backup everything from / and then have a small exclude list with things like: /dev, /proc, /sys, /exports, /var/cache/squid, /srv/BackupPC. /var contains the most

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2007-09-30 Thread Grant
Do you back up anything other than /etc and /home on a standard system? - Grant /var because with /var gone its complete-reinstall time. What about splitting tar.gz files across multiple CDs? Can that be done? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list A lot of

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2007-09-30 Thread Grant
Do you back up anything other than /etc and /home on a standard system? In a Gentoo system nothing is really standard, so I backup everything from / and then have a small exclude list with things like: /dev, /proc, /sys, /exports, /var/cache/squid, /srv/BackupPC. /var contains

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2007-09-30 Thread Dale
Grant wrote: Do you back up anything other than /etc and /home on a standard system? In a Gentoo system nothing is really standard, so I backup everything from / and then have a small exclude list with things like: /dev, /proc, /sys, /exports, /var/cache/squid, /srv/BackupPC.

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2007-09-30 Thread Grant
Do you back up anything other than /etc and /home on a standard system? In a Gentoo system nothing is really standard, so I backup everything from / and then have a small exclude list with things like: /dev, /proc, /sys, /exports, /var/cache/squid, /srv/BackupPC. /var contains

Re: [gentoo-user] ext3 with errors

2007-09-30 Thread Florian Philipp
Etaoin Shrdlu schrieb: On Sunday 30 September 2007, Florian Philipp wrote: Which shell do you use? Bash's default behavior (I don't know whether you can change that) is that it doesn't expand * to all files and directories but only the nonhidden. Just try the following: ls -l --directory

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2007-09-30 Thread Florian Philipp
Grant schrieb: Do you back up anything other than /etc and /home on a standard system? In a Gentoo system nothing is really standard, so I backup everything from / and then have a small exclude list with things like: /dev, /proc, /sys, /exports, /var/cache/squid, /srv/BackupPC. /var contains

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2007-09-30 Thread Grant
Do you back up anything other than /etc and /home on a standard system? In a Gentoo system nothing is really standard, so I backup everything from / and then have a small exclude list with things like: /dev, /proc, /sys, /exports, /var/cache/squid, /srv/BackupPC. /var contains the

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2007-09-30 Thread Christopher Copeland
On 30 Sep 2007, at 12:33, Grant wrote: Where do you guys store your backups? Leaving backups on a DVD in the same apartment as the machines doesn't make too much sense to me. Maybe I should mail em to my parents every week or something? - Grant Offsite backups are a good idea if your data

[gentoo-user] DRI with Radeon X850 on AMD64

2007-09-30 Thread Daniel D Jones
Trying to get DRI working on a Radeon X850 on AMD64. In my Xorg log, Im seeing: (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib64/dri/r300_dri.so failed (/usr/lib64/dri/r300_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering And sure enough,

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2007-09-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 30 September 2007, Grant wrote: I keep them on an USB-stick (udf filesystem, with the same settings like a CD-RW). But where do you put the USB stick? If my apartment building burns to the ground while I'm away, I'll lose my systems and the backups. I can't believe you actually

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2007-09-30 Thread Grant
Where do you guys store your backups? Leaving backups on a DVD in the same apartment as the machines doesn't make too much sense to me. Maybe I should mail em to my parents every week or something? - Grant Offsite backups are a good idea if your data is important to you. I have

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2007-09-30 Thread Grant
I keep them on an USB-stick (udf filesystem, with the same settings like a CD-RW). But where do you put the USB stick? If my apartment building burns to the ground while I'm away, I'll lose my systems and the backups. I can't believe you actually asked that. Think, man, think. But

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2007-09-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Grant, Where do you guys store your backups? Leaving backups on a DVD in the same apartment as the machines doesn't make too much sense to me. Maybe I should mail em to my parents every week or something? I use rsync.net, offsite backups using duplicity for GPG encryption. -- Neil

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2007-09-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Grant, For now I think I'll do /etc, /root, /home, /var/lib/portage/world, /usr/src/linux/.config, and anything specific I might need in /usr/local. What else am I missing out on in /var? Other data in /var/lib. For example, any databases kept in /var/lib/mysql. -- Neil Bothwick

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2007-09-30 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sunday 30 September 2007 12:31:51 pm Grant wrote: Do you back up anything other than /etc and /home on a standard system? snip... Just my two cents worth here. Often I find a need to generate a duplicate of an existing gentoo installation and to ease the build process I run this script

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo User Guide XML error : solved ?

2007-09-30 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 16:34:19 -0400 Philip Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 12:10:17AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote Following the usual procedure in such cases of trying simple changes, I changed the file extension to '.html' Epiphany now has no problem. Does anyone

[gentoo-user] emerge xine-ui fails at ffmpeg

2007-09-30 Thread maxim wexler
Hi group, This one is still giving me grief: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ emerge -pv xine-ui These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20070330 [0.4.9_p20060302] USE=X%* encode ieee1394 mmx ogg oss sdl truetype

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2007-09-30 Thread Steve Dommett
On Sunday 30 September 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote: Other data in /var/lib. For example, any databases kept in /var/lib/mysql. Rather than backup MySQL's or Postgres' binary storage I prefer to use the relevant tool (mysqldump, pgdump[all]) to backup the database to /root/backups/ just prior to

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2007-09-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Jerry McBride, Just my two cents worth here. Often I find a need to generate a duplicate of an existing gentoo installation and to ease the build process I run this script via cron... #!/bin/sh rm /portage.list/*.* emerge -pe --color=n system /portage.list/system.list emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2007-09-30 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sunday 30 September 2007 06:02:30 pm Neil Bothwick wrote: Hello Jerry McBride, Just my two cents worth here. Often I find a need to generate a duplicate of an existing gentoo installation and to ease the build process I run this script via cron... #!/bin/sh rm /portage.list/*.*

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2007-09-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Jerry McBride, Why not just backup the world list itself, /var/lib/portage/world? Your method doesn't distinguish between packages in world and their dependencies, emerging from this would result in a screwed world file. It doesn't have too. The files I listed plus a backup of /etc

Re: [gentoo-user] ext3 with errors

2007-09-30 Thread Dale
Florian Philipp wrote: That's exactly what I wanted to explain to Dale ;) Sorry if I puzzled you. I just know that -a means all files including hidden ones. I like to keep it simple, so I can understand it. LOL Dale :-) :-) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] diskless booting [solved, I hope]

2007-09-30 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 09:55:40 -0230 Roger Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the configs were the same as the diskless install docs on the Gentoo alt-install page, with suitable modifications of the ip and MAC addresses in the dhcpd.conf. I _was using pxegrub but, on a whim, I tried

Re: [gentoo-user] set xdm to start after agetty

2007-09-30 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 06:31:58 -0500 Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 22:41 +0300, Thanasis wrote: How can we set the xdm/gdm not to start before the agetty processes (during the boot phase)? I actually run /etc/init.d/xdm manually after a boot because,

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2007-09-30 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 21:35:42 -0400 Kenneth Prugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 16:28:36 -0700 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does something like '--exclude /home/user/.*' work with tar? - Grant Yes you may exclude files from being included. From the tar man page:

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2007-09-30 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:15:04 +0100 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Grant, For now I think I'll do /etc, /root, /home, /var/lib/portage/world, /usr/src/linux/.config, and anything specific I might need in /usr/local. What else am I missing out on in /var? Other data in

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate mails

2007-09-30 Thread Александър Л . Димитров
On 10:26 Sun 30 Sep, Alan McKinnon wrote On Sunday 30 September 2007, Steve Dommett wrote: On Sunday 30 September 2007, Alan McKinnon wrote: I'm getting a lot of duplicate messages lately, especially from gentoo-users. I don't know if it's an error on my side or not. Not here. I've

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2007-09-30 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 15:26:07 -0700 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you back up anything other than /etc and /home on a standard system? - Grant Don't forget to back up stuff that can help you rebuild the system quickly. Like /proc/config.gz, or better yet just the kernel and modules you

Re: [gentoo-user] Users in passwd/shadow

2007-09-30 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 04:30:11 +0200 Bertram Scharpf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm fetching the users from the files '/etc/passwd' and '/etc/shadow'. (I use a simple Ruby script.) def users fn ; File.open fn do |f| f.map { |l| l[ /^[^:]*/] } end ; end pw = users /etc/passwd

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups

2007-09-30 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Dan Farrell wrote: On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 15:26:07 -0700 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you back up anything other than /etc and /home on a standard system? - Grant Don't forget to back up stuff that can help you rebuild the system quickly. Like /proc/config.gz, or better yet just

Re: [gentoo-user] set xdm to start after agetty

2007-09-30 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sun, 2007-09-30 at 19:43 -0500, Dan Farrell wrote: # rc-upate del xdm # echo '/etc/init.d/xdm start' /etc/conf.d/local.start I don't think you'd need to add anything to local.stop but you may wanna verify that. -- Albert W. Hopkins You might want to stop XDM gracefully

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xine-ui fails at ffmpeg

2007-09-30 Thread Willie Wong
On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 02:38:31PM -0700, Penguin Lover maxim wexler squawked: eContext' is deprecated (declared at /var/tmp/portage/media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20070330/work/ffmpeg/libavcod ec/avcodec.h:2447)

Re: [gentoo-user] set xdm to start after agetty

2007-09-30 Thread Daniel Iliev
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 22:41:52 +0300 Thanasis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can we set the xdm/gdm not to start before the agetty processes (during the boot phase)? Just an idea for a possible direction to point your investigation to... /etc/config-archive/etc/conf.d/xdm: === # Tell X to always