Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ?

2014-11-24 Thread Sid S
We didn't disband the team because we thought that having a team focused on games wasn't a bad idea, but so far nobody else seems all that interested so it seems as likely as not that there won't be a games team in the future. Probably a chicken-and-egg thing. I want to play games on my Gentoo,

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-24 Thread Sid S
The reason this question is so hard to answer is because it is not a technical question, it is a moral and ethical one. The links presented start to approach the issue being discussed in this light but do not entirely accept the right question. I suspect this is because it seems rather absurd. We

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-24 Thread Sid S
Regardless, it would probably be useful to contact the people from the Debian project who were interested in forking it. It's likely Gentoo would end up using a fair amount of their work at some point. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 6:18 AM, Sid S r03...@gmail.com wrote: The reason this question is so

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ?

2014-11-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:20 AM, Sid S r03...@gmail.com wrote: Today, ebuilds don't even let a chance for an admin to apply a series of patches to the vanilla/distro-maintainer sources without having to rewrite/fork the ebuild. There isn't a way to specify ebuild properties in a way like

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ?

2014-11-24 Thread Sid S
Oh. I've had to use that, even. I was thinking patches of ebuilds. (???) On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 6:41 AM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:20 AM, Sid S r03...@gmail.com wrote: Today, ebuilds don't even let a chance for an admin to apply a series of patches to

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED]Re: dev-lang/ruby-2.0.0_p594::gentoo failed

2014-11-24 Thread Joseph
On 11/23/14 18:52, walt wrote: On 11/23/2014 04:45 PM, Joseph wrote: * ERROR: dev-lang/ruby-2.0.0_p594::gentoo failed (compile phase): On my ~amd64 machines I have ruby-2.0.0_p598 installed. Is there a reason you want 594 instead of 598? Solved! dev-lang/ruby-2.0.0_p594-r1 works. --

[gentoo-user] flag details

2014-11-24 Thread James
Hello, So, I use euse to read aobut flags. Sometimes the same flag has slightly, but significantly different meanings depending on the packages it is use on. A tool with perhaps more detail or that parse the ebuild/sources for even greater detail information? I also use Ciaran's old

Re: [gentoo-user] flag details

2014-11-24 Thread Jc García
2014-11-24 11:09 GMT-06:00 James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com: Hello, So, I use euse to read aobut flags. Sometimes the same flag has slightly, but significantly different meanings depending on the packages it is use on. A tool with perhaps more detail or that parse the ebuild/sources for even

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-24 Thread Marc Stürmer
Am 21.11.2014 um 18:36 schrieb Philip Webb: Adoption of Systemd by other major distros sb good for Gentoo. Disgruntled Debians, Fedoras, Archies (IIRC they've also adopted it) will have a choice of giving in or moving to Slackware or Gentoo. Well, Gentoo is for sure quite a different beast

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's future directtion ?

2014-11-24 Thread James
Rich Freeman rich0 at gentoo.org writes: The reason I jumped into this thread is that someone had problems with the java project. I'm not sure, but maybe something is wrong with my eyes? Your eyes are fine. Gmane's web interface was hosed. I tried to use nntp (earlybird) but that

[gentoo-user] Re: flag details

2014-11-24 Thread James
Jc García jyo.garcia at gmail.com writes: I use $ equery u cat/pkg It list the useflags and what the metadata.xml of the package says about each of them, plus highlights the active ones if you have the package already merged. yea that helps. But the information is a terse, single phrase

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-24 Thread Gevisz
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 18:54:26 +0100 Marc Stürmer m...@marc-stuermer.de wrote: Am 21.11.2014 um 18:36 schrieb Philip Webb: Adoption of Systemd by other major distros sb good for Gentoo. Disgruntled Debians, Fedoras, Archies (IIRC they've also adopted it) will have a choice of giving in or

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: flag details

2014-11-24 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 11/24/2014 01:19 PM, James wrote: Jc García jyo.garcia at gmail.com writes: I use $ equery u cat/pkg It list the useflags and what the metadata.xml of the package says about each of them, plus highlights the active ones if you have the package already merged. yea that helps. But

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: flag details

2014-11-24 Thread Emanuele Rusconi
When in doubt I just read the ebuild and try to understand what's going on. A policy would be nice, though, and sometimes even reading the ebuild leaves me guessing. As you point out, saying foo: enables libfoo leaves me wandering OK, but what the f* would I need foo for?? -- Emanuele Rusconi

[gentoo-user] Re: flag details

2014-11-24 Thread James
Emanuele Rusconi emarsk at gmail.com writes: When in doubt I just read the ebuild and try to understand what's going on. A policy would be nice, though, and sometimes even reading the ebuild leaves me guessing. As you point out, saying foo: enables libfoo leaves me wandering OK, but

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-24 Thread Emanuele Rusconi
On 24 November 2014 at 18:54, Marc Stürmer m...@marc-stuermer.de wrote: I don't think so, that many people are going to switch to Gentoo just because of Systemd, because of the differences between Gentoo and e.g. Debian. I did. From Debian. Not because I hate systemd (NOW I'm in the anti

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-24 Thread Marc Stürmer
Am 24.11.2014 um 19:25 schrieb Gevisz: I switched from Ubuntu 10.04 to Gentoo just because it forced closing window button x to the upper-left corner of the window in Unity of Ubuntu 12.04 while I used to look for it in the upper-right corner. :) So, I see no reason that those that hate

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 20:25:22 +0200, Gevisz wrote: I switched from Ubuntu 10.04 to Gentoo just because it forced closing window button x to the upper-left corner of the window in Unity of Ubuntu 12.04 while I used to look for it in the upper-right corner. :) Wouldn't it have been easier to use

[gentoo-user] lxqt-meta-0.8.0 install

2014-11-24 Thread James
Ok, So I currently have lxde installed, and clearly there are bugs with upgrading directly to lxqt-meta, on gentoo. But, these 0.8.0 ebuilds collectively have been moved from the overlay for lxqt on gentoo. to the portage tree, and hard masked (red on my system). I'm building up on new btrfs

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: btrfs and gcc 4.9

2014-11-24 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 13.11.2014 um 21:34 schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Up and running with gnome 3.14 as well. Snappy performance so far. Only a few packages left to care about. Nice. Just another status for the records: so far I am running happily on ~amd64 built from scratch with sys-devel/gcc(**)4.9.2

[gentoo-user] cups-filters failing to build

2014-11-24 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
Hey guys, I've been having a really strange issue with net-print/cups-filters for the last few weeks, wondering whether or not it's a bug or I just have something configured wrong. Somehow ${S} is defined as: /var/tmp/portage/net-print/cups-filters-1.0.53/work/cups-filters-3.2.10 and the

[gentoo-user] Re: cups-filters failing to build

2014-11-24 Thread walt
On 11/24/2014 02:24 PM, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: Hey guys, I've been having a really strange issue with net-print/cups-filters for the last few weeks, wondering whether or not it's a bug or I just have something configured wrong. Somehow ${S} is defined as:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: cups-filters failing to build

2014-11-24 Thread wraeth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 25/11/14 12:26, walt wrote: A question of my own: the ebuilds for icedtea list the cups flag as +cups. So far I haven't discovered a man page that explains the + prefix. Is there such a man page? I just had a look through the man pages of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: cups-filters failing to build

2014-11-24 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On 11/24/2014 08:35 PM, wraeth wrote: On 25/11/14 12:26, walt wrote: A question of my own: the ebuilds for icedtea list the cups flag as +cups. So far I haven't discovered a man page that explains the + prefix. Is there such a man page? I just had a look through the man pages of

[gentoo-user] World update and changed PYTHON_TARGETS

2014-11-24 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Hey list during yesterday's upgrade I read the news about python 3.4 being the new profile default. In its course a lot of python-related packages were indeed rebuilt (up until then I had set PYTHON_TARGETS to 2.7, 3.3 and 3.4 manually due to blender, which already required 3.4). But in the end,

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-24 Thread Gevisz
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 21:05:16 + Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 20:25:22 +0200, Gevisz wrote: I switched from Ubuntu 10.04 to Gentoo just because it forced closing window button x to the upper-left corner of the window in Unity of Ubuntu 12.04 while I used

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-24 Thread Gevisz
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 06:53:14 +0200 Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 21:05:16 + Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 20:25:22 +0200, Gevisz wrote: I switched from Ubuntu 10.04 to Gentoo just because it forced closing window button x to the