Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread gevisz
2015-05-30 18:56 GMT+03:00 rhan...@gmx.de: On 30/05/15 16:56, gevisz wrote: 2015-05-30 15:02 GMT+03:00 gevisz gev...@gmail.com: So, I can update the system and see if the unneeded gettext package will be emerged again. :-) Yes, it was merged back. Why ... to keep an unneeded

[gentoo-user] Re: Difficulties to acchieve a certain time period with fcron

2015-05-30 Thread James
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: On 29/05/2015 18:12, Meino.Cramer at gmx.de wrote: I am makeing definetly something very wrong here...but I the logic seems to prevent me to do the rigth ting... *cron* are limited. You need advanced logic constructs to achieve what you

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread gevisz
2015-05-30 18:54 GMT+03:00 Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk: On Saturday 30 May 2015 13:57:34 gevisz wrote: 2015-05-30 12:32 GMT+03:00 Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de: Am Sat, 30 May 2015 11:36:28 +0300 schrieb gevisz gev...@gmail.com: [...] (Note: the word you are looking for is cache.)

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulties to acchieve a certain time period with fcron

2015-05-30 Thread Alex Brandt
On Friday, May 29, 2015 18:12:52 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: What I want is, that fcron executes a script every 14 days. It does not matter, when to execute the script, since I cannot guarantee that my PC is running exactly at that time. I've got a similar cron I run for backups (daily rather

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Difficulties to acchieve a certain time period with fcron

2015-05-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 30 May 2015 16:42:37 + (UTC), James wrote: *cron* are limited. You need advanced logic constructs to achieve what you want. Bash is most likely your easiest path. If you're using systemd, timer units would do what you want. They are more complex to set up than cron, but far more

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 30 May 2015 16:43:13 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 30 May 2015 12:49:51 Mick wrote: On my laptop which has stayed on Kmail-1 I have this: ---8 Have a look here for more details and warnings: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE/KDEPIM-4.7_upgrade Many thanks Mick -

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulties to acchieve a certain time period with fcron

2015-05-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/05/2015 18:12, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, probably I have made a knot into my brain... What I want is, that fcron executes a script every 14 days. It does not matter, when to execute the script, since I cannot guarantee that my PC is running exactly at that time. I tried

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the definition of a gentoo binary package?

2015-05-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/05/2015 03:48, walt wrote: gory details of many frustrating hours of fighting with one particular gentoo package have been snipped to eliminate uncouth language I think of a gentoo binary package (e.g. oracle-jdk-bin) as an ebuild that fetches a file from somewhere, then merely unpacks

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the definition of a gentoo binary package?

2015-05-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:11 PM, Andrew Savchenko birc...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, 29 May 2015 18:48:55 -0700 walt wrote: The libreoffice-bin package wanted to drag in dozens of other non-binary gentoo packages before it would install itself, and even caused a blocker between two different

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread gevisz
2015-05-29 23:33 GMT+03:00 gevisz gev...@gmail.com: 2015-05-29 21:45 GMT+03:00 gevisz gev...@gmail.com: 2015-05-29 19:36 GMT+03:00 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com: On Friday 29 May 2015 17:20:13 gevisz wrote: 2015-05-29 17:46 GMT+03:00 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com: Do you get anything

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/05/2015 17:54, Mick wrote: On Friday 29 May 2015 16:28:57 Alan Grimes wrote: Mick wrote: On Friday 29 May 2015 10:36:37 Peter Humphrey wrote: I had two sets of problems: one in KDE which I might have nailed finally [1], and one at boot time in which /dev/md7 (RAID-1 with metadata 1.0)

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 30 May 2015 00:20:51 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: He was talking about tying the e-mail client to a database, not about the KDE4 desktop, and I've protested at the same thing more than once, sometimes in vigorous terms. Made no difference of course, but then I'm just an insufficiently

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread rhannek
On 30/05/15 11:36, gevisz wrote: P.S. As I have already described it earlier, this issue with the Firefox menu is only related to the menu I get while right-clicking on a youtube video in Firefox. (All the other menus is in English, as desired.) Have you checked the language

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread gevisz
2015-05-30 13:02 GMT+03:00 rhan...@gmx.de: On 30/05/15 11:36, gevisz wrote: P.S. As I have already described it earlier, this issue with the Firefox menu is only related to the menu I get while right-clicking on a youtube video in Firefox. (All the other menus is in English,

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread gevisz
2015-05-30 13:57 GMT+03:00 gevisz gev...@gmail.com: I strongly suspect that the application doing the translating doesn't even use gettext. May be, but I cannot think of a better explanation. Besides which, I'm surprised you're not getting crashes from applications not finding the gettext

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Sat, 30 May 2015 13:57:34 +0300 schrieb gevisz gev...@gmail.com: This document shows how websites can localise their content: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web_Localizability/Creating_localizable_web_applications. Thank you for the link. I will look at it in more detail

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-30 Thread Mick
On Saturday 30 May 2015 00:20:51 Peter Humphrey wrote: Other than the odd bug here and there I was perfectly happy with KDE3 and Kmail1 (still using with kde-base/kdepim-meta-4.4.11.1-r1). I wonder if there's a way to go back to KMail-1 and import all my e-mails from KMail-2 archive files

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Sat, 30 May 2015 14:59:12 +0300 schrieb gevisz gev...@gmail.com: 2015-05-30 14:31 GMT+03:00 rhan...@gmx.de: On 30/05/15 14:07, gevisz wrote: [...] No. It's about localizing web pages with gettext. gettext is on the server side. The server sets a locale for the session and then

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread gevisz
2015-05-30 12:32 GMT+03:00 Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de: Am Sat, 30 May 2015 11:36:28 +0300 schrieb gevisz gev...@gmail.com: [...] As I still had a suspicion that those non-English entries in the Firefox menu remain because of some cash issues, I have just launched another instance of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread rhannek
On 30/05/15 14:07, gevisz wrote: I do not know how to do that. Go to [1], scroll to the bottom. There should be some settings for yt language. Yes, but according to the link, provided by Marc, it contains gettext instruction for its translation according to the locale set on the local

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread gevisz
2015-05-30 14:31 GMT+03:00 rhan...@gmx.de: On 30/05/15 14:07, gevisz wrote: I do not know how to do that. Go to [1], scroll to the bottom. There should be some settings for yt language. Yes, but according to the link, provided by Marc, it contains gettext instruction for its translation

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Sat, 30 May 2015 11:36:28 +0300 schrieb gevisz gev...@gmail.com: [...] As I still had a suspicion that those non-Eglish entries in the Firefox menu remain because of some cash issues, I have just launched another instance of the Firefox browser using a separate profile. Well, in a

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 30 May 2015 09:53:23 Alan McKinnon wrote: Akonadi was supposed to be a once-size-fits-all central store of all pim info (contacts, addresses, mails and all metadata about that) which any and all apps could use. The vision was that an enormous awesome ecosystem all buying into

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread gevisz
2015-05-30 14:36 GMT+03:00 Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de: Am Sat, 30 May 2015 13:57:34 +0300 schrieb gevisz gev...@gmail.com: This document shows how websites can localise their content: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web_Localizability/Creating_localizable_web_applications. Thank

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread gevisz
2015-05-30 15:02 GMT+03:00 gevisz gev...@gmail.com: So, I can update the system and see if the unneeded gettext package will be emerged again. :-) Yes, it was merged back. Why ... to keep an unneeded dependency in the portage tree?

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 30 May 2015 12:49:51 Mick wrote: On my laptop which has stayed on Kmail-1 I have this: ---8 Have a look here for more details and warnings: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE/KDEPIM-4.7_upgrade Many thanks Mick - that's very helpful. I expect that sooner or later bitrot will

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 30 May 2015 13:57:34 gevisz wrote: 2015-05-30 12:32 GMT+03:00 Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de: Am Sat, 30 May 2015 11:36:28 +0300 schrieb gevisz gev...@gmail.com: [...] (Note: the word you are looking for is cache.) So, it is from French. [OT] Yes, along with a vast number of

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread rhannek
On 30/05/15 16:56, gevisz wrote: 2015-05-30 15:02 GMT+03:00 gevisz gev...@gmail.com: So, I can update the system and see if the unneeded gettext package will be emerged again. :-) Yes, it was merged back. Why ... to keep an unneeded dependency in the portage tree? Because some package