[gentoo-user] USBasp recognized/not recognized...what?

2017-08-30 Thread tuxic
Hi, for some third party USBasp (ISP flash programmer) clones I got some dubious situation: These devices mainly consists of an ATmega 8A AU, which USB ports connect to a USB connector and smoe GPIOs are used to flash an attached microcontroller via ISP. That's the theory. Now I attach such a

Re: [gentoo-user] Easiest way to block domains?

2017-08-30 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 11:09:00AM +0200, Heiko Baums wrote > I'm using the combination of these browser add-ons available for > Firefox and Chromium: > > uBlock Origin > uMatrix > EFF Privacy Badger I use Pale Moon. There's a Pale Moon specific fork of AdBlock, called AdBlock Latitude

Re: [gentoo-user] Easiest way to block domains?

2017-08-30 Thread Mick
On Wednesday, 30 August 2017 04:17:27 BST R0b0t1 wrote: > Unfortunately this isn't a viable strategy because typically you will, > in a few months, if not a single month, spend more in electricity > costs than you would purchasing a new single board computer. Are you sure of this? Perhaps in a

Re: [gentoo-user] Why isn't this SDcard mounting?

2017-08-30 Thread Mick
On Tuesday, 29 August 2017 22:27:36 BST Stroller wrote: > > On 29 Aug 2017, at 19:15, Mick wrote: > > ... > > This may have been mentioned already, but do you have sys-fs/udisks > > installed? > I did not. > > > Check the output of udisksctl status/monitor/info and see

[gentoo-user] systemD?

2017-08-30 Thread mad.scientist.at.large
I do not want to start a whole systemd storm, glad i was offline for that.  however, in my case i'd really like to avoid systemd.  can i setup with out systemd, or do i need to remove and patch later.  obviously better to start without it in this case.  so are some of the available kernels not

Re: [gentoo-user] processor speed

2017-08-30 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Daniel. On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 07:49:49 -0700, Daniel Frey wrote: [ ] > For the frontend replacement I think I'm going to jump to one of the > Ryzen products. I don't need ThreadRipper there, but one of their other > processors will work. The backend will get a faster processor but

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Easiest way to block domains?

2017-08-30 Thread R0b0t1
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Mick wrote: > On Wednesday, 30 August 2017 15:42:47 BST Ian Zimmerman wrote: >> On 2017-08-30 09:32, Mick wrote: >> > > Unfortunately this isn't a viable strategy because typically you >> > > will, in a few months, if not a single month,

Re: [gentoo-user] systemD?

2017-08-30 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 08/30/2017 01:39 PM, mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote: > I do not want to start a whole systemd storm, glad i was offline for > that. however, in my case i'd really like to avoid systemd. can i > setup with out systemd, or do i need to remove and patch later. > obviously better to

Re: [gentoo-user] systemD?

2017-08-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 7:28 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Wed, 30 Aug 2017 23:27:12 +0100 > schrieb Mick : > >> BTW, if you run ps axf and come across '/lib/systemd/systemd-udevd >> --daemon' don't panic. RHL advocates of monolithic stack for

[gentoo-user] Re: Easiest way to block domains?

2017-08-30 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-30 18:28, R0b0t1 wrote: > >> Also: how long is the replacement going to last? Anything with > >> flash as the main storage will be back at the recycling station > >> (ideally) within a couple of years. This includes all the consumer > >> routers I've ever had, including the beloved

Re: [gentoo-user] processor speed

2017-08-30 Thread R0b0t1
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 08/29/2017 08:09 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Dale wrote: >>> Rich Freeman wrote: >>> >>> Isn't it amazing how efficient and fast newer computers are? It's >>> almost

[gentoo-user] Re: processor speed

2017-08-30 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2017-08-30, R0b0t1 wrote: > A decade was about how long I expect my i7-4770k based system to last, > assuming I have absolutely no money to upgrade before then. My Monochrome 8MHz IBM AT has lasted 32 years. Of course I've upgraded/replaced the hard drive(s) a dozen or so

Re: [gentoo-user] systemD?

2017-08-30 Thread Mick
On Wednesday, 30 August 2017 22:18:40 BST Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 4:39 PM, wrote: > > are some of the available kernels not systemd, > > Michael's answer was correct, but I just wanted to note that the > kernel and systemd are really

Re: [gentoo-user] Simplest NTP client for standalone system?

2017-08-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 6:13 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > But I'm not talking about it for users like you and I. > I've said over and over in this thread about regular users and you seem > to be missing that part; it's the entirety of everything I'm saying > here. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Simplest NTP client for standalone system?

2017-08-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/08/2017 18:49, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: >> >> Another example is LVM. You or I might really need it (debatable now we >> have ZFS) but the average user has no concept of what it might be, or >> care. So why do

Re: [gentoo-user] systemD?

2017-08-30 Thread Dale
mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote: > kool, i can do that. thanks. > > -- > The Power Of the People Is Stronger Than The People In Charge. > > > 30. Aug 2017 14:54 by m...@gentoo.org : > > On 08/30/2017 04:39 PM, mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com >

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/08/2017 21:30, Dale wrote: > Mick wrote: >> On Tuesday, 29 August 2017 12:08:12 BST Alan McKinnon wrote: >> PS. Did I mention you would have to do all of the above using a dial-up >> modem, >> which would require off-tree modules, because your PC came with a Winmodem? >> >> PPS. In case

Re: [gentoo-user] Simplest NTP client for standalone system?

2017-08-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/08/2017 13:25, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 09:49:58AM -0700, Rich Freeman wrote >> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Alan McKinnon >> wrote: >>> >>> Another example is LVM. You or I might really need it (debatable now we >>> have ZFS) but the

Re: [gentoo-user] USBasp recognized/not recognized...what?

2017-08-30 Thread tuxic
Hi, ok, I fixed it myself...an udev-rule was missing a '"'... (and I am missing a coffee...) Sorry for the false alert...! Cheers Meino On 08/30 03:59, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > Hi, > > for some third party USBasp (ISP flash programmer) clones I got > some dubious situation: > > These

Re: [gentoo-user] systemD?

2017-08-30 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 08/30/2017 04:39 PM, mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote: > I do not want to start a whole systemd storm, glad i was offline for > that. however, in my case i'd really like to avoid systemd. can i > setup with out systemd, or do i need to remove and patch later. If you follow the

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/08/2017 18:47, Mick wrote: > On Tuesday, 29 August 2017 12:08:12 BST Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 28/08/2017 22:20, mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote: >>> |it's not so hard yet, just hard to get by reading it in advance, doing >>> >>> it is fairly straight forward. >> >> It only seems

Re: [gentoo-user] systemD?

2017-08-30 Thread mad.scientist.at.large
kool, i can do that.  thanks. -- The Power Of the People Is Stronger Than The People In Charge. 30. Aug 2017 14:54 by m...@gentoo.org: > On 08/30/2017 04:39 PM, > mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com> wrote: >> I do not want to start a whole systemd storm, glad i was offline for >> that.

Re: [gentoo-user] systemD?

2017-08-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 4:39 PM, wrote: > are some of the available kernels not systemd, Michael's answer was correct, but I just wanted to note that the kernel and systemd are really two different things. You don't really need to do anything special with

Re: [gentoo-user] Easiest way to block domains?

2017-08-30 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 10:17:27PM -0500, R0b0t1 wrote > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:38 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > I'm running a Core2-duo desktop from 2008 with 3 gigs of ram. I want > > to run it into the ground, not throw it away while it's still > > functional. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Easiest way to block domains?

2017-08-30 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 11:22:14AM +0200, David Haller wrote > # Farcepalm > address=/fb.com/127.0.1.1 > address=/fbcdn.net/127.0.1.1 > address=/facebook.com/127.0.1.1 > address=/facebook.net/127.0.1.1 > address=/facebook.de/127.0.1.1 > address=/facebook.fr/127.0.1.1 >

Re: [gentoo-user] Simplest NTP client for standalone system?

2017-08-30 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 09:49:58AM -0700, Rich Freeman wrote > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: > > > > Another example is LVM. You or I might really need it (debatable now we > > have ZFS) but the average user has no concept of what it might be,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Easiest way to block domains?

2017-08-30 Thread Mick
On Wednesday, 30 August 2017 15:42:47 BST Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-08-30 09:32, Mick wrote: > > > Unfortunately this isn't a viable strategy because typically you > > > will, in a few months, if not a single month, spend more in > > > electricity costs than you would purchasing a new single

[gentoo-user] Re: Easiest way to block domains?

2017-08-30 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-30 09:32, Mick wrote: > > Unfortunately this isn't a viable strategy because typically you > > will, in a few months, if not a single month, spend more in > > electricity costs than you would purchasing a new single board > > computer. > Perhaps in a commercial 24x7x365 high compute

Re: [gentoo-user] processor speed

2017-08-30 Thread Daniel Frey
On 08/29/2017 08:09 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Dale wrote: >> Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> Isn't it amazing how efficient and fast newer computers are? It's >> almost worth the energy saving to upgrade. If a person runs their >> system 24/7, that is

[gentoo-user] Re: Easiest way to block domains?

2017-08-30 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-30 06:47, Walter Dnes wrote: > > uBlock Origin > > uMatrix > > EFF Privacy Badger > > I use Pale Moon. There's a Pale Moon specific fork of AdBlock, called > AdBlock Latitude https://addons.palemoon.org/addon/adblock-latitude/ > but I prefer to avoid addons. uBlockOrigin works

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Easiest way to block domains?

2017-08-30 Thread Daniel Frey
On 08/30/2017 07:42 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-08-30 09:32, Mick wrote: > >>> Unfortunately this isn't a viable strategy because typically you >>> will, in a few months, if not a single month, spend more in >>> electricity costs than you would purchasing a new single board >>> computer. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Easiest way to block domains?

2017-08-30 Thread R0b0t1
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-08-30 18:28, R0b0t1 wrote: > >> >> Also: how long is the replacement going to last? Anything with >> >> flash as the main storage will be back at the recycling station >> >> (ideally) within a couple of years.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Easiest way to block domains?

2017-08-30 Thread Dale
R0b0t1 wrote: > On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: >> On 2017-08-30 18:28, R0b0t1 wrote: >> > Also: how long is the replacement going to last? Anything with > flash as the main storage will be back at the recycling station > (ideally) within

Re: [gentoo-user] systemD?

2017-08-30 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 30 Aug 2017 23:27:12 +0100 schrieb Mick : > BTW, if you run ps axf and come across '/lib/systemd/systemd-udevd > --daemon' don't panic. RHL advocates of monolithic stack for Linux > haven't taken over your machine, but that's how udev is packaged > these days

Re: [gentoo-user] Simplest NTP client for standalone system?

2017-08-30 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: >> Another example is LVM. You or I might really need it (debatable now we >> have ZFS) but the average user has no concept of what it might be, or >> care. So why do Ubuntu installers shove it