Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-07-05 Thread Javier Villavicencio
Holly Bostick wrote: [big snip] Holly Well said. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-07-05 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 09:01:21AM -0700, Bob Sanders wrote Too bad neither work 100%. Neither will produce - # Modelines for 1600SW MultiLink ModeLine 512x384 19.392 512 528 592 640 384 385 388 404 ModeLine 512x384

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-07-04 Thread Benjamin Fritzsche
On Monday 04 July 2005 00:03, Bob Sanders wrote: On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 19:31:42 +0100 Tim Igoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe if Linux becomes more mainstream or used in offices more then perhaps they might improve the efforts towards the Linux drivers. Here is why ATI won't become much

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-07-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 00:13:14 +0200, Luigi Pinna wrote: Ok, in this case a question: which other cards support a good 3D? If I don't buy ATI or NVIDEA, but other one Can I use UT2004? I need 3D only to play... But I don't want to have a expensive card... And ATI and NVIDEA start to 50

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-07-04 Thread Bob Sanders
On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:46:43 +0200 Benjamin Fritzsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Ati 9600 in my Inspiron works perfectly in 16:10 with the Ati-drivers. I doubt that. Maybe at 16x9 - 1600 x 900, but not 1600 x 1024. Or perahps Dell paid ATI to support that one model of display. Regardless

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-07-04 Thread Benjamin Fritzsche
On Monday 04 July 2005 15:29, Bob Sanders wrote: On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:46:43 +0200 Benjamin Fritzsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Ati 9600 in my Inspiron works perfectly in 16:10 with the Ati-drivers. I doubt that. Maybe at 16x9 - 1600 x 900, but not 1600 x 1024. Or perahps Dell paid ATI

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-07-03 Thread Bob Sanders
On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 19:31:42 +0100 Tim Igoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe if Linux becomes more mainstream or used in offices more then perhaps they might improve the efforts towards the Linux drivers. Here is why ATI won't become much better over time - most of their developers don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-07-03 Thread Luigi Pinna
Alle 00:03, lunedì 04 luglio 2005, Bob Sanders ha scritto: [...] I really tried to not pre-judge them and tried various options using their cards - Xorg, flgrx, and even went third party - Xig. Simply put - I'll not be buying any more ATI cards. Bob Ok, in this case a question: which other

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-07-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Monday 04 July 2005 00:13, Luigi Pinna wrote: Ok, in this case a question: which other cards support a good 3D? If I don't buy ATI or NVIDEA, but other one Can I use UT2004? I need 3D only to play... But I don't want to have a expensive card... And ATI and NVIDEA start to 50 €

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-07-03 Thread Justin Hart
Yeah, let me echo that. If you run Linux, and you want to play games, and you want a brand new video card, get an nVidia. It's that simple. Justin On 7/3/05, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 04 July 2005 00:13, Luigi Pinna wrote: Ok, in this case a question: which

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-07-02 Thread Jens Mayer
* On Saturday 02 July 2005 05:10, Justin Hart wrote: Whooa. I didn't mean to stir a hornet's nest. It was a bit late last night, so I felt like having to rant about something. From a pure customers view, I'd agree with your conclusions. The hornets are now well rested. My apologies. ;-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-07-02 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Saturday 02 July 2005 05:10, Justin Hart wrote: I'm sure that ATI will come through, or, whatever. Just, well, if you get one RIGHT NOW, NEW, you'll be dissapointed. Well, ATI driver sucked 10 years ago, they suck today... I don't think that ATI is able to make any decent drivers EVER.

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-07-02 Thread Tim Igoe
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Saturday 02 July 2005 05:10, Justin Hart wrote: I'm sure that ATI will come through, or, whatever. Just, well, if you get one RIGHT NOW, NEW, you'll be dissapointed. Well, ATI driver sucked 10 years ago, they suck today... I don't think that ATI is

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-07-02 Thread Justin Hart
No prob. On 7/2/05, Jens Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * On Saturday 02 July 2005 05:10, Justin Hart wrote: Whooa. I didn't mean to stir a hornet's nest. It was a bit late last night, so I felt like having to rant about something. From a pure customers view, I'd agree with your

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-07-01 Thread Jens Mayer
* On Friday 01 July 2005 01:49, Justin Hart wrote: Buying an ATI card for a Linux box is not a good decision. Go with nVidia, at least their drivers work. I've thought of buying an nVidia card for this notebook for months because, frankly, ATI hasn't been taking care of the matter, and won't

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-07-01 Thread Ian K
Jens Mayer wrote: * On Friday 01 July 2005 20:57, Justin Hart wrote: To counter this argument, I would point out that I don't normally purchase used 3D acceleration hardware, and that by the time these cards are old they will also be obsolete, meaning that you will have sunk a good amount of

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-06-30 Thread Justin Hart
I, humbly, must disagree. ATI's drivers have been far behind. The Radeon drivers, rather than the fglrx ones, fall short on many fronts. The ATI fglrx drivers, have been behind since I got this card. You still can't run composite and dri together. Buying an ATI card for a Linux box is not a

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-06-30 Thread Rafael Fernández López
Well, I cannot turn on composite extension. Right. I'm sure that very early ATI will improve linux's graphical drivers, as they're doing right now. They're developing better drivers, so there's no reason about thinking that composite won't be enabled for ATI graphics card. Well, I liked TOO

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-06-30 Thread Richard Fish
Rafael Fernández López wrote: Well, I cannot turn on composite extension. Right. I'm sure that very early ATI will improve linux's graphical drivers, as they're doing right now. They're developing better drivers, so there's no reason about thinking that composite won't be enabled for ATI

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-06-29 Thread Rafael Fernández López
El Jueves 30 Junio 2005 00:20, XXOmega21XX escribió: --- Benjamin Fritzsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 28 January 2005 03:19, Rui Silva wrote: hello ppl i'm thinking on buying a new notebook computer. the model i'm interested has a ATI 9700 128Mb graphic card. R300

Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-06-24 Thread Benjamin Fritzsche
On Friday 28 January 2005 03:19, Rui Silva wrote: hello ppl i'm thinking on buying a new notebook computer. the model i'm interested has a ATI 9700 128Mb graphic card. R300 based How are the drivers for this graphic card?? Is ATI LInux driver good enough?? i'm not going to play games.