Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver
Holly Bostick wrote: [big snip] Holly Well said. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 09:01:21AM -0700, Bob Sanders wrote Too bad neither work 100%. Neither will produce - # Modelines for 1600SW MultiLink ModeLine 512x384 19.392 512 528 592 640 384 385 388 404 ModeLine 512x384 21.978 512 528 592 640 384 385 388 494 ModeLine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 108 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync ModeLine 1600x1024 103.125 1600 1600 1656 1664 1024 1024 1029 1030 HSkew 7 +Hsync +Vsync [...deletia...] Why should the driver disallow valid modes? Both ATI and Nvidia drivers do so - ATI - won't do 1600x1024, monitor SGI FP1600SW Nvidia - won't do 1280x768, monitor Viewsonic N1700W And it's not just Linux. These rejections are for WinXX as well. Funny thing - Nvidia works fine (except the one 6600 card I have) at 1600x1024, and ATI works fine at 1280x768 (but the chip on the 9250 died - a full 4 months of life). Maybe the reason that asking for 16/10 didn't generate 1600x1024 is because 1600x1024 != 16/10 g. I went back and specifically asked for 1600x1024 at the ilog.fr site, and I got a working modeline for my 6-year-old ATI (Mach64 chipset). -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Monday 04 July 2005 00:03, Bob Sanders wrote: On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 19:31:42 +0100 Tim Igoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe if Linux becomes more mainstream or used in offices more then perhaps they might improve the efforts towards the Linux drivers. Here is why ATI won't become much better over time - most of their developers don't use Linux. If you've followed any of the interviews from ATI and Nvidia, you'll note significant differences. ATI has a dedicated team - started at around 5 developers, after they consolidated their driver teams. This grew to around 15, perhaps more today. ATI's management controls how much resources get dropped into Linux via dedicated funding. Nvidia has had a lot of internal pressure from their developers as many run Linux to do development, even for other platforms. Thus they have more than a dedicated core of driver developers for Linux, they have hard core Linux using developers. While Nvidia's management would like to control how much money goes into Linux driver development, they can't just tell their developers to switch platforms for their core work. But that doesn't mean that Nvidia's drivers are golden. They've got a broken driver with the 6x00 series of cards right now if you are running 16x10. It works fine with 5200/5900, previous gen cards. And, 1280x768 is not supported under WinXX or Linux with any version of Nvidia drivers. And this is with any current version of their drivers - nv (in Xorg), 6629, and 7664. ATI, on the other hand has never considered 16x10, it's not a valid resolution. They do support 1280x768, but their cards - 9250, seem to die pretty quickly with heavy 3D use - well, half an hour of UT. My Ati 9600 in my Inspiron works perfectly in 16:10 with the Ati-drivers. I'm happy with them at the moment, yes there are things that could be improved - but aren't there always? :) I really tried to not pre-judge them and tried various options using their cards - Xorg, flgrx, and even went third party - Xig. Simply put - I'll not be buying any more ATI cards. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 00:13:14 +0200, Luigi Pinna wrote: Ok, in this case a question: which other cards support a good 3D? If I don't buy ATI or NVIDEA, but other one Can I use UT2004? I need 3D only to play... But I don't want to have a expensive card... And ATI and NVIDEA start to 50 ___ You wouldn't be able to use anything with an open source driver for this. Not if UT2004 is the same as UT2003 in this respect. That game required a certain TL algorithm for its 3D, one that uses proprietary code. The source for this cannot be released, which is why nVidia cannot open source their Linux drivers unless they remove this code. Then the card would only run UT under Windows, providing ammo for the Linux sucks brigade. -- Neil Bothwick The facts, although interesting, are irrelevant. pgpneXm2qtQcp.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:46:43 +0200 Benjamin Fritzsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Ati 9600 in my Inspiron works perfectly in 16:10 with the Ati-drivers. I doubt that. Maybe at 16x9 - 1600 x 900, but not 1600 x 1024. Or perahps Dell paid ATI to support that one model of display. Regardless it's not generic - the mode is not recognized under radeon, nor under fglrx. Perhaps you were thinking of 1450x1024? Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Monday 04 July 2005 15:29, Bob Sanders wrote: On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:46:43 +0200 Benjamin Fritzsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Ati 9600 in my Inspiron works perfectly in 16:10 with the Ati-drivers. I doubt that. Maybe at 16x9 - 1600 x 900, but not 1600 x 1024. Or perahps Dell paid ATI to support that one model of display. Regardless it's not generic - the mode is not recognized under radeon, nor under fglrx. Perhaps you were thinking of 1450x1024? Bob - Works here in 1920x1200 1280x800. haven´t tried others. no need for doubt as I ´m sitting in front of it. doesn´t even need a ModeLine. autodetection with DDC (or whatever, works.) also with the xorg radeon drivers. But I remember that until about 9 months ago i needed a manually set Modeline which took quite some experimentation to figure out. Benny -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 19:31:42 +0100 Tim Igoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe if Linux becomes more mainstream or used in offices more then perhaps they might improve the efforts towards the Linux drivers. Here is why ATI won't become much better over time - most of their developers don't use Linux. If you've followed any of the interviews from ATI and Nvidia, you'll note significant differences. ATI has a dedicated team - started at around 5 developers, after they consolidated their driver teams. This grew to around 15, perhaps more today. ATI's management controls how much resources get dropped into Linux via dedicated funding. Nvidia has had a lot of internal pressure from their developers as many run Linux to do development, even for other platforms. Thus they have more than a dedicated core of driver developers for Linux, they have hard core Linux using developers. While Nvidia's management would like to control how much money goes into Linux driver development, they can't just tell their developers to switch platforms for their core work. But that doesn't mean that Nvidia's drivers are golden. They've got a broken driver with the 6x00 series of cards right now if you are running 16x10. It works fine with 5200/5900, previous gen cards. And, 1280x768 is not supported under WinXX or Linux with any version of Nvidia drivers. And this is with any current version of their drivers - nv (in Xorg), 6629, and 7664. ATI, on the other hand has never considered 16x10, it's not a valid resolution. They do support 1280x768, but their cards - 9250, seem to die pretty quickly with heavy 3D use - well, half an hour of UT. I'm happy with them at the moment, yes there are things that could be improved - but aren't there always? :) I really tried to not pre-judge them and tried various options using their cards - Xorg, flgrx, and even went third party - Xig. Simply put - I'll not be buying any more ATI cards. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Alle 00:03, lunedì 04 luglio 2005, Bob Sanders ha scritto: [...] I really tried to not pre-judge them and tried various options using their cards - Xorg, flgrx, and even went third party - Xig. Simply put - I'll not be buying any more ATI cards. Bob Ok, in this case a question: which other cards support a good 3D? If I don't buy ATI or NVIDEA, but other one Can I use UT2004? I need 3D only to play... But I don't want to have a expensive card... And ATI and NVIDEA start to 50 € Luigi -- Public key GPG(0x073A0960) on http://keyserver.linux.it/ pgpryqQVk7uKw.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Monday 04 July 2005 00:13, Luigi Pinna wrote: Ok, in this case a question: which other cards support a good 3D? If I don't buy ATI or NVIDEA, but other one Can I use UT2004? I need 3D only to play... But I don't want to have a expensive card... And ATI and NVIDEA start to 50 € Luigi most problems with 6x00 cards can be solved with a bios-update (the bios of the card). If you want to play, there is no alternative for nvidia. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Yeah, let me echo that. If you run Linux, and you want to play games, and you want a brand new video card, get an nVidia. It's that simple. Justin On 7/3/05, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 04 July 2005 00:13, Luigi Pinna wrote: Ok, in this case a question: which other cards support a good 3D? If I don't buy ATI or NVIDEA, but other one Can I use UT2004? I need 3D only to play... But I don't want to have a expensive card... And ATI and NVIDEA start to 50 € Luigi most problems with 6x00 cards can be solved with a bios-update (the bios of the card). If you want to play, there is no alternative for nvidia. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Justin W. Hart -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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* On Saturday 02 July 2005 05:10, Justin Hart wrote: Whooa. I didn't mean to stir a hornet's nest. It was a bit late last night, so I felt like having to rant about something. From a pure customers view, I'd agree with your conclusions. The hornets are now well rested. My apologies. ;-) Regards, Jens -- If puns were deli meat, this would be the wurst. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Saturday 02 July 2005 05:10, Justin Hart wrote: I'm sure that ATI will come through, or, whatever. Just, well, if you get one RIGHT NOW, NEW, you'll be dissapointed. Well, ATI driver sucked 10 years ago, they suck today... I don't think that ATI is able to make any decent drivers EVER. So, buying a card and waiting that ATI will release working drivers is.. hm.. hopeless ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Saturday 02 July 2005 05:10, Justin Hart wrote: I'm sure that ATI will come through, or, whatever. Just, well, if you get one RIGHT NOW, NEW, you'll be dissapointed. Well, ATI driver sucked 10 years ago, they suck today... I don't think that ATI is able to make any decent drivers EVER. Equally their Windows (ick) drivers sucked not so long back - yet now they are much better. (Or were, i can't say i like the new .NET control thingy) So, buying a card and waiting that ATI will release working drivers is.. hm.. hopeless ;) The recent versions of the drivers have been much better than the older ones. I'm sure things will improve over time. But in the graphics industry time is something that you don't have - if you buy a card you want it to work there and then. Maybe if Linux becomes more mainstream or used in offices more then perhaps they might improve the efforts towards the Linux drivers. I'm happy with them at the moment, yes there are things that could be improved - but aren't there always? :) -- Tim Igoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tim.igoe.me.uk - Personal Site http://tv.igoe.me.uk - UK TV Guide Computers are like Air-con, open windows and they stop working! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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No prob. On 7/2/05, Jens Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * On Saturday 02 July 2005 05:10, Justin Hart wrote: Whooa. I didn't mean to stir a hornet's nest. It was a bit late last night, so I felt like having to rant about something. From a pure customers view, I'd agree with your conclusions. The hornets are now well rested. My apologies. ;-) Regards, Jens -- If puns were deli meat, this would be the wurst. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Justin W. Hart -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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* On Friday 01 July 2005 01:49, Justin Hart wrote: Buying an ATI card for a Linux box is not a good decision. Go with nVidia, at least their drivers work. I've thought of buying an nVidia card for this notebook for months because, frankly, ATI hasn't been taking care of the matter, and won't in the forseeable future. There's two sides to every story. It is true that nVidia's drivers are ahead of ATI's counterpart, especially on desktop computers. They seem to be much more stable and mature, even while adding new features more quickly, i.e. support for Xorg's render and composite extensions. The situation concerning notebook-specific features is a bit like playing roulette. Most people want to use suspend to disk or suspend to RAM on their quite expensive laptops, and it's both drivers who often fail miserably in that case, whether they are from nVidia or ATI. There are known workarounds which might or might not get the stuff working, the chance of failure is high, depending on numerous other things like the driver for your framebuffered console and so on... Guess what? The open source drivers usually work, but do not offer 3D acceleration in many (ATI) or all (nVidia) cases. Which brings us to another important point: Contrary to nVidia's practice, ATI gives the specifications of older cards to the developer community. That's why there is an open source alternative for ATI's cards up to and includig the Radeon 9200 with working 3D acceleration support, and that's simply why there is no real open source alternative for nVidia cards if you want to use 3D applications on your box. Not that important? Well, while the ATI Mobility FireGL T2 in my IBM laptop is not yet supported by open source drivers, it certainly will be in the future. I wonder who's first in offering a 3D accelerated driver really supporting suspend to disk on my laptop: ATI or the guys from r300.sf.net. ;-) Now vice versa: The Geforce2 GTS in my desktop is quite ancient, but was good enough to play around with Xorg's composite and render extensions to get some solid eyecandy. Guess what? nVidia decided to not support those cards anymore, they now just get the most important bugfixes via some (yet to come) legacy drivers. Now that means a very little chance to have the new and still experimental stuff getting developed in my card's drivers in the future. Open source alternatives? None. See above. Buying an ATI card for a Linux box is not a good decision. is too general to be answered with yes or no. Regards, Jens -- Reporter: What would you do if you found a million dollars? Yogi Berra: If the guy was poor, I would give it back. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Jens Mayer wrote: * On Friday 01 July 2005 20:57, Justin Hart wrote: To counter this argument, I would point out that I don't normally purchase used 3D acceleration hardware, and that by the time these cards are old they will also be obsolete, meaning that you will have sunk a good amount of money into hardware that didn't work properly for you until it was outdated. First of all, to avoid wrong assumptions: It's not the hardware that doesn't work properly, it's the proprietary software driving them. My experiences and my point of view is just the following: I don't care if my hardware is outdated or even obsolete, as long as it works. I'm not even interested in squeezing out the last frame per second playing the most recent shooter of the year. Things I do care for example is the ability to suspend my systems, and to gracefully resume afterwards. Both cards have no problem in doing so, it's just the proprietary drivers that suck, be it ATI or nVidia. As an addition, I like Xorg's eyecandy, and even the most obsolete card here has enough power to support it, it's just the drivers that suck, be it ATI or nVidia. I know that nVidia's drivers may work fine with brand new cards in this context, but they won't ever support the things I'm after using my Geforce2 GTS - it's legacy. I'm pretty sure my ATI FireGL T2 will do so sooner or later, just because there's much more information available to the developers. They can work on it if ATI won't. With nVidia, you're doomed. At this very moment, none of both manufacturers can give me the things which are on top of my priorities, so I'm still going with unaccelerated open source drivers in both cases. I just got used to wait... ;-) But while nVidia is forcing me to buy new hardware if I want to keep up with features my card would still be able to support, ATI isn't. Free software is about choice - so why would I want to have my freedom of choice denied by a hardware manufacturer? It's nVidia who want me to spent money in my specific case. As ATI is offering delayed informations about it's hardware, it's no big surprise that Zack Rusin's first implementation of EXA[1], a new and resource friendly acceleration architecture for Xorg, is done within the r200 open source drivers for ATI cards. So is it good or bad thing buying ATI cards for Linux? What drives open source development? I'm still pretty sure there's no clear yes or no suitable for all situations and intentions. It's just the old ATI sucks, nVidia rocks rant that gets on my nerves. Things ain't that simple, but I can see and understand your point - it just differs from mine. ;-) Regards, Jens Footnotes: [1] http://dot.kde.org/1119948104/ Hey all, I personally, am happy with my ATI stuff. I posted this question at the start of the thread, and I dont think it was answered. Using the Open Source Drivers, (which are in the kernel, right) will the Video Out port work on a Mobility Radeon 9000? Thanks!!! Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
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I, humbly, must disagree. ATI's drivers have been far behind. The Radeon drivers, rather than the fglrx ones, fall short on many fronts. The ATI fglrx drivers, have been behind since I got this card. You still can't run composite and dri together. Buying an ATI card for a Linux box is not a good decision. Go with nVidia, at least their drivers work. I've thought of buying an nVidia card for this notebook for months because, frankly, ATI hasn't been taking care of the matter, and won't in the forseeable future. Justin On 6/29/05, Rafael Fernández López [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El Jueves 30 Junio 2005 00:20, XXOmega21XX escribió: --- Benjamin Fritzsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 28 January 2005 03:19, Rui Silva wrote: hello ppl i'm thinking on buying a new notebook computer. the model i'm interested has a ATI 9700 128Mb graphic card. R300 based How are the drivers for this graphic card?? Is ATI LInux driver good enough?? i'm not going to play games. just the aplications commonly used. What about video out?? does it work?? the instalation is smooth or not?? share your experiences please, help me decide For Desktop Use you´ll be perfectly happy with Xorg radeon drivers. They work perfectly here on an Inspiron 8600 (Radeon 9600 Pro Turbo, which is the same chip with a lower frequency AFAIK). You´ll get: Video-Out support (Including Clone, Xinerama and ext. only), Dynamic Clock frequency, Working Hibernate/Suspend to Ram (With hibernate-script and vbetool). Basically everything works except DRI and TV-Out. (Which work with the ATI-Drivers). Feel free to contact me if you run into troubles. I´ll happily share my xorg.conf. Benny -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hi. I have a similar question. My Laptop (Toshiba Satellite A70) does have SVideo Out, and I really need that to work. I saw on the ATI site that their propriatary Linux drivers were not for notebooks. Is that true, and is there an extra package (open source) I could emerge for Open Source support on SVideo? For the record, its an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000. Thanks!!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Well, I do own a Fujitsu-Siemens AMILO with ATI RADEON 9700 and IT DOES WORK PERFECTLY with ati-drivers, so I think that it works with laptops... Bye. -- You know you're brilliant, but maybe you'd like to understand what you did 2 weeks from now. - Linus Torvalds Gentoo GNU/Linux. -- Justin W. Hart -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Well, I cannot turn on composite extension. Right. I'm sure that very early ATI will improve linux's graphical drivers, as they're doing right now. They're developing better drivers, so there's no reason about thinking that composite won't be enabled for ATI graphics card. Well, I liked TOO MUCH this laptop specifications and it was INCREDIBLY CHEAP, and a 128mb graphics card for a laptop is a HUGE graphics card... so I couldn't resist... I see that from time to time, ati is improving ati drivers. Bye. El Viernes 01 Julio 2005 01:49, Justin Hart escribió: I, humbly, must disagree. ATI's drivers have been far behind. The Radeon drivers, rather than the fglrx ones, fall short on many fronts. The ATI fglrx drivers, have been behind since I got this card. You still can't run composite and dri together. Buying an ATI card for a Linux box is not a good decision. Go with nVidia, at least their drivers work. I've thought of buying an nVidia card for this notebook for months because, frankly, ATI hasn't been taking care of the matter, and won't in the forseeable future. Justin On 6/29/05, Rafael Fernández López [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El Jueves 30 Junio 2005 00:20, XXOmega21XX escribió: --- Benjamin Fritzsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 28 January 2005 03:19, Rui Silva wrote: hello ppl i'm thinking on buying a new notebook computer. the model i'm interested has a ATI 9700 128Mb graphic card. R300 based How are the drivers for this graphic card?? Is ATI LInux driver good enough?? i'm not going to play games. just the aplications commonly used. What about video out?? does it work?? the instalation is smooth or not?? share your experiences please, help me decide For Desktop Use you´ll be perfectly happy with Xorg radeon drivers. They work perfectly here on an Inspiron 8600 (Radeon 9600 Pro Turbo, which is the same chip with a lower frequency AFAIK). You´ll get: Video-Out support (Including Clone, Xinerama and ext. only), Dynamic Clock frequency, Working Hibernate/Suspend to Ram (With hibernate-script and vbetool). Basically everything works except DRI and TV-Out. (Which work with the ATI-Drivers). Feel free to contact me if you run into troubles. I´ll happily share my xorg.conf. Benny -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hi. I have a similar question. My Laptop (Toshiba Satellite A70) does have SVideo Out, and I really need that to work. I saw on the ATI site that their propriatary Linux drivers were not for notebooks. Is that true, and is there an extra package (open source) I could emerge for Open Source support on SVideo? For the record, its an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000. Thanks!!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Well, I do own a Fujitsu-Siemens AMILO with ATI RADEON 9700 and IT DOES WORK PERFECTLY with ati-drivers, so I think that it works with laptops... Bye. -- You know you're brilliant, but maybe you'd like to understand what you did 2 weeks from now. - Linus Torvalds Gentoo GNU/Linux. -- Justin W. Hart -- You know you're brilliant, but maybe you'd like to understand what you did 2 weeks from now. - Linus Torvalds Gentoo GNU/Linux. pgpGRGrWaXetu.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Rafael Fernández López wrote: Well, I cannot turn on composite extension. Right. I'm sure that very early ATI will improve linux's graphical drivers, as they're doing right now. They're developing better drivers, so there's no reason about thinking that composite won't be enabled for ATI graphics card. I would not count on ATI improving their drivers. If they work for you, great, but there are known issues, such as no software suspend support, that have existed for more than one year (and I think closer to 2 years), and are listed in the notes for each release. And it isn't like suspend support is something new or difficultalmost every single open source driver for *any* hardware supports supports it. Another example was their crappy configuration script, that also needed fixing for over a year. (I think this just got upgraded...I'm not sure) Another example is it took them over 6 months to support x.org after it's initial release. My point is they seem to be mostly concerned about adding support for the latest-and-greatest graphics cards, without fixing the existing problems and deficiencies. And supporting new standards in X or the kernel are never done on a reasonable schedule. NVidia does a *little* better, but they still have issues with suspend as well. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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El Jueves 30 Junio 2005 00:20, XXOmega21XX escribió: --- Benjamin Fritzsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 28 January 2005 03:19, Rui Silva wrote: hello ppl i'm thinking on buying a new notebook computer. the model i'm interested has a ATI 9700 128Mb graphic card. R300 based How are the drivers for this graphic card?? Is ATI LInux driver good enough?? i'm not going to play games. just the aplications commonly used. What about video out?? does it work?? the instalation is smooth or not?? share your experiences please, help me decide For Desktop Use you´ll be perfectly happy with Xorg radeon drivers. They work perfectly here on an Inspiron 8600 (Radeon 9600 Pro Turbo, which is the same chip with a lower frequency AFAIK). You´ll get: Video-Out support (Including Clone, Xinerama and ext. only), Dynamic Clock frequency, Working Hibernate/Suspend to Ram (With hibernate-script and vbetool). Basically everything works except DRI and TV-Out. (Which work with the ATI-Drivers). Feel free to contact me if you run into troubles. I´ll happily share my xorg.conf. Benny -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hi. I have a similar question. My Laptop (Toshiba Satellite A70) does have SVideo Out, and I really need that to work. I saw on the ATI site that their propriatary Linux drivers were not for notebooks. Is that true, and is there an extra package (open source) I could emerge for Open Source support on SVideo? For the record, its an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000. Thanks!!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Well, I do own a Fujitsu-Siemens AMILO with ATI RADEON 9700 and IT DOES WORK PERFECTLY with ati-drivers, so I think that it works with laptops... Bye. -- You know you're brilliant, but maybe you'd like to understand what you did 2 weeks from now. - Linus Torvalds Gentoo GNU/Linux. pgpiHLIf2OuDV.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Friday 28 January 2005 03:19, Rui Silva wrote: hello ppl i'm thinking on buying a new notebook computer. the model i'm interested has a ATI 9700 128Mb graphic card. R300 based How are the drivers for this graphic card?? Is ATI LInux driver good enough?? i'm not going to play games. just the aplications commonly used. What about video out?? does it work?? the instalation is smooth or not?? share your experiences please, help me decide For Desktop Use you´ll be perfectly happy with Xorg radeon drivers. They work perfectly here on an Inspiron 8600 (Radeon 9600 Pro Turbo, which is the same chip with a lower frequency AFAIK). You´ll get: Video-Out support (Including Clone, Xinerama and ext. only), Dynamic Clock frequency, Working Hibernate/Suspend to Ram (With hibernate-script and vbetool). Basically everything works except DRI and TV-Out. (Which work with the ATI-Drivers). Feel free to contact me if you run into troubles. I´ll happily share my xorg.conf. Benny -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
