Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE...Again.... (Now at howto install kde)
On Sunday 29 January 2006 06:41, Ian wrote: unmask all of the packages im building in package.keywords. You seem to have added them to package.unmask as well. Don't do that. -- Regards, Abhay pgpDBsUMAdkF2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE...Again.... (Now at howto install kde)
Abhay Kedia schreef: On Sunday 29 January 2006 06:41, Ian wrote: unmask all of the packages im building in package.keywords. You seem to have added them to package.unmask as well. Don't do that. Just as a note, there doesn't seem to be a choice in this regard (i.e., you have to add kdewhatever-3.5.1 to package.unmask). If I don't add it to package.unmask, I get a halt from Portage because some of the dependent packages that [ nomerge ] packages want to emerge are masked. The only way I've found around it in the past three days is to just go ahead and unmask them, let Portage fail to download then tarballs, and then do a --resume --skipfirst to proceed. I could of course not --deep the update, but that covers everything, which I don't want. I also upgraded Portage to see if it was a Portage problem, but that didn't help either. It's odd, imo... Portage shouldn't really consider masked packages for updates, but in this case I can't seem to get it to stop. I was also wondering if it was a bug, and in what (KDE, Portage... something). It seems to me that the devs have done this before (put a package in the tree just before it was available, masked), and I can't figure out why its not working this time the way it has in the past. If its something I've done, I can't figure out what But I've been busy, so I've only had time to be annoyed by it, not investigate it. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE...Again.... (Now at howto install kde)
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:56:17 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: Just as a note, there doesn't seem to be a choice in this regard (i.e., you have to add kdewhatever-3.5.1 to package.unmask). If I don't add it to package.unmask, I get a halt from Portage because some of the dependent packages that [ nomerge ] packages want to emerge are masked. 3.5.0 packages should satisfy any such dependencies. Of course, if both 3.5.0 and 3.5.1 are masked in one way or another, portage's message will probably refer to the latest version. Putting 3.5.0* package versions in package.keywords should be sufficient. i've certainly not had anything demand a 3.5.1 package on three very different (but all ~arch) boxes. -- Neil Bothwick Scotty! I've fallen and I can't beam up!! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE...Again.... (Now at howto install kde)
Neil Bothwick schreef: On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:56:17 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: Just as a note, there doesn't seem to be a choice in this regard (i.e., you have to add kdewhatever-3.5.1 to package.unmask). If I don't add it to package.unmask, I get a halt from Portage because some of the dependent packages that [ nomerge ] packages want to emerge are masked. 3.5.0 packages should satisfy any such dependencies. Of course, if both 3.5.0 and 3.5.1 are masked in one way or another, portage's message will probably refer to the latest version. Putting 3.5.0* package versions in package.keywords should be sufficient. i've certainly not had anything demand a 3.5.1 package on three very different (but all ~arch) boxes. I'm also running ~x86, and kdelibs and kdebase-kioslaves 3.5.0 (the packages I'm having problems with) are currently installed. But if I do an emerge -uaD(N)tv world, krusader (because it is compiled with konqueror support, so it depends on Konq), and something else I forget (oh, it was knowit, but I uninstalled that, in an effort to solve this problem), demand to upgrade kdelibs and kioslaves to the masked versions (which should not be available). And of course, if Portage finds that something necessary is masked, it stops dead. Adding the two packages to packages.unmask at least allows the emerge to proceed, though of course I have to hang about in order to skipfirst, due to the two unavailable tarballs. Not that I have any particular desire to upgrade these packages to 3.5.1, but Portage wants to make me, for some reason. In any case, I don't so much want to hijack the thread (actually, I don't want to hijack the thread at all), but if this is a 'general' problem of some sort (which seems amazing, but I have no other explanation for the bizarre behaviour that both I and the OP seem to be seeing), I wanted to mention. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE...Again.... (Now at howto install kde)
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 19:08:11 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: I'm also running ~x86, and kdelibs and kdebase-kioslaves 3.5.0 (the packages I'm having problems with) are currently installed. But if I do an emerge -uaD(N)tv world, krusader (because it is compiled with konqueror support, so it depends on Konq), and something else I forget (oh, it was knowit, but I uninstalled that, in an effort to solve this problem), demand to upgrade kdelibs and kioslaves to the masked versions (which should not be available). That's odd. Krusader doesn't want anything masked here. # emerge krusader -pv These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N] kde-misc/krusader-1.70.0_beta2 USE=-arts -debug -javascript kde -xinerama 0 kB Are you sure you don't have any KDE packages in package.unmask? -- Neil Bothwick Please rotate your phone 90 degrees and try again. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE...Again.... (Now at howto install kde)
Neil Bothwick schreef: On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 19:08:11 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: I'm also running ~x86, and kdelibs and kdebase-kioslaves 3.5.0 (the packages I'm having problems with) are currently installed. But if I do an emerge -uaD(N)tv world, krusader (because it is compiled with konqueror support, so it depends on Konq), and something else I forget (oh, it was knowit, but I uninstalled that, in an effort to solve this problem), demand to upgrade kdelibs and kioslaves to the masked versions (which should not be available). That's odd. Krusader doesn't want anything masked here. # emerge krusader -pv These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N] kde-misc/krusader-1.70.0_beta2 USE=-arts -debug -javascript kde -xinerama 0 kB Are you sure you don't have any KDE packages in package.unmask? Oh, I'm sorry-- I should have mentioned that I'm using the live CVS ebuild from the Krusader site, which has different USE flags: emerge -pv krusader-cvs Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] kde-misc/krusader-cvs-1-r4 USE=javascript konqueror -arts -debug -xinerama 0 kB [1] Total size of downloads: 0 kB Portage overlays: [1] /usr/local/portage ... but I found the problem. There was an old setting in /etc/portage/package.mask that needed to be cleared out (I had masked = some 3.4 version of kioslaves, for reasons that I assume were good at the time, but I totally forgot that I had ever done it, so I certainly don't remember why I had done it). Removing that enabled the profile package.mask to work normally once I removed the bogus and unnecessary /etc/portage/package.unmask settings. So that's fine then, sorry for the noise and thanks for the encouragement to get to the bottom of what I had done to screw things up (since I knew it had to be me, given that Portage really is unlikely to have gone so schizo without anyone noticing *but* me :-) ). We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread (with a possible advisory to Ian to check his little-used /etc/portage files; maybe there's a setting that you forgot you put there, as well :-) ). Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE...Again.... (Now at howto install kde)
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 00:57:35 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: ... but I found the problem. There was an old setting in /etc/portage/package.mask that needed to be cleared out (I had masked = some 3.4 version of kioslaves, for reasons that I assume were good at the time, but I totally forgot that I had ever done it, so I certainly don't remember why I had done it). Removing that enabled the profile package.mask to work normally once I removed the bogus and unnecessary /etc/portage/package.unmask settings. I had a similar experience last week, because I still had a zillion =kde-base/kwhatever-3.5.0_beta1 lines in portage.unmask so it wanted to install all of KDE 3.5.1. Time for a script to check for outdated entries in the /etc/portage files. -- Neil Bothwick Modesty Becomes You. Try It More Often. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE...Again.... (Now at howto install kde)
On 29 January 2006 13:56, Holly Bostick wrote: Abhay Kedia schreef: On Sunday 29 January 2006 06:41, Ian wrote: unmask all of the packages im building in package.keywords. You seem to have added them to package.unmask as well. Don't do that. Just as a note, there doesn't seem to be a choice in this regard (i.e., you have to add kdewhatever-3.5.1 to package.unmask). If I don't add it to package.unmask, I get a halt from Portage because some of the dependent packages that [ nomerge ] packages want to emerge are masked. KDE 3.5.1 isn't released by KDE yet. So unless you want to help KDE (*not* gentoo) beta testing it, you really don't want to install it. ;-) Uwe -- Unix is sexy: who | grep -i blonde | date cd ~; unzip; touch; strip; finger mount; gasp; yes; uptime; umount sleep -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE...Again.... (Now at howto install kde)
Hey again!Im having issues.I saw on the gentoo forums that kdelibs-3.5.1 isn't on the servers yet, but I cant seem to get it to go down to 3.5.0. In order for me to get 3.5 anything I needed to unmask all of the packages im building in package.keywords. So I get:#USE=-arts alsa emerge -p kicker kdesktop konqueror kcontrol kdesu kcalc kmplot kontact kopete kwifimanager konsole digikam kdevelop kdm These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.1 [ebuild N ] kde-base/libkonq-3.5.1 [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdebase-data-3.5.1 [ebuild N ] kde-base/kicker-3.5.1 [ebuild N ] kde-base/kcheckpass-3.5.0 [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdialog-3.5.0 [ebuild N ] kde-base/kcminit-3.5.0 [ebuild N ] kde-base/khotkeys-3.5.1 [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdesu-3.5.0 [ebuild N ] kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5.1 [ebuild N ] kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.1 [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdm-3.5.1 [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.1 [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.1 [ebuild N ] kde-base/konqueror-3.5.1 [ebuild N ] kde-base/kcalc-3.5.1 [ebuild N ] kde-base/kmplot-3.5.1 [ebuild N ] kde-base/ktnef-3.5.1 [ebuild N ] kde-base/libkcal-3.5.1 [ebuild N ] kde-base/libkdepim-3.5.1 [ebuild N ] kde-base/libkpgp-3.5.0 [ebuild N ] kde-base/libkdenetwork-3.5.0 [ebuild N ] kde-base/certmanager-3.5.1 [ebuild N ] kde-base/libkpimidentities-3.5.1 [ebuild N ] kde-base/kontact-3.5.1 [ebuild N ] kde-base/kopete-3.5.1 [ebuild N ] kde-base/kwifimanager-3.5.1 [ebuild N ] kde-base/konsole-3.5.1 [ebuild U ] media-gfx/digikam-0.7.4-r1 [0.7.1] [ebuild N ] kde-base/cervisia-3.5.1 [ebuild U ] dev-util/kdevelop-3.2.1-r1 [3.1.2] How do I only get 3.5.0?Thanks!!!On 1/27/06, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL, I use webmail, and I forgot about konq.Thanks!On 1/27/06, Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Ian wrote: What is the bare minimum? Its emerge kicker kdesktop konsole kcontrol right?No, leave out the kdesktop, it will get pulled in automatically, atleast here it did.Also, you won't need kcontrol if you don't wantto adjust anything.But don't you want kmail and konqueror? Benno--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Cheers,Ian -- Cheers,Ian
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE...Again.... (Now at howto install kde)
Thanks Benno!Now how do I install kde 3.4.3? The main reason for doing this is that I dont want arts.If I just emerge the bare minimum, will it want to install arts as well?What is the bare minimum? Its emerge kicker kdesktop konsole kcontrol right? (Up until now, Ive just used emerge kde. Its my only graphical enviornment so I dontfind it pulling in everything.)And then I want 3.4.3, so do i need to go emerge kicker-3.4.3 etc?Thanks very much guys/gals! ~IanOn 1/27/06, Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian wrote: But there are still a few things in /usr/kde/3.5 Dirs: env, share, shutdown What should I do?Throw the whole 3.5 dir away.(Tar it up first, if you wish to playit safe.) Also clean out any *kde*3.5 files from /etc/env.d and runenv-update.sh.Benno--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Cheers,Ian
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE...Again.... (Now at howto install kde)
Ian wrote: Thanks Benno! Now how do I install kde 3.4.3? The main reason for doing this is that I dont want arts. Just set USE=-arts in make.conf Then emerge whatever KDE stuff you want. Arts will stay away. -Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE...Again.... (Now at howto install kde)
Ian wrote: What is the bare minimum? Its emerge kicker kdesktop konsole kcontrol right? No, leave out the kdesktop, it will get pulled in automatically, at least here it did. Also, you won't need kcontrol if you don't want to adjust anything. But don't you want kmail and konqueror? Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE...Again.... (Now at howto install kde)
LOL, I use webmail, and I forgot about konq.Thanks!On 1/27/06, Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Ian wrote: What is the bare minimum? Its emerge kicker kdesktop konsole kcontrol right?No, leave out the kdesktop, it will get pulled in automatically, atleast here it did.Also, you won't need kcontrol if you don't wantto adjust anything.But don't you want kmail and konqueror? Benno--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list-- Cheers,Ian
