RE: [geo] scale, scope, emphasis, and structure of research programs (or program)

2009-11-25 Thread Bonnelle Denis
Hello, I would like to emphasize about unintentional climate intervention in a particular way: some human activities (agriculture, forests management, electricity production, ...) have, through albedo, water cycle, flow of various nutrients to the oceans, turbine condensers heat sinks, etc,

Re: [geo] scale, scope, emphasis, and structure of research programs (or program)

2009-11-25 Thread John Nissen
Hi Gregory, Thanks for your support. Concerning your question on the Greenland ice sheet, I'm copying this to the geoengineering group, since somebody may be able to help answer your question, or point you in the right direction. Last Friday I talked to Dr Ed King, of the British Antarctic

Re: [geo] large scale algae culture in oceans

2009-11-25 Thread John Nissen
Thanks for that, M V. Your quote does put the role of algae into perspective. What a wonderful idea to have a workshop for a new approach, which is scalable to the required size for significant effect. Could somebody organise such a workshop on SRM to cool the Arctic? Cheers, John --- M

Re: [geo] Re: A simple argument for SRM geoengineering, again.

2009-11-25 Thread John Nissen
Hi Neil, Thanks for your support. I think such a research foundation would be welcome. But, as I've said on a thread started by Ken, research is not enough. Time is running out for deployment of SRM to save the Arctic. There still seems to be some lingering doubt about the severity of the

[geo] USA Agrees Emission Cuts of Only 3-4% by 2020

2009-11-25 Thread Veli Albert Kallio
Hi All, I just noticed that USA has just announced 3-4% emission cuts by 2020 which is a way too low to address any of the issues for the practical purposes. 3-4% cut refers to the baseline which is comparable to one used by the European Union where the baseline year is 1990. The USA

Re: [geo] Re: A simple argument for SRM geoengineering, again.

2009-11-25 Thread Greg Rau
Brennan, I thought we were going to use the PVC from your process for this purpose? Anyway, we should probably clear this with the local caribou herds, etc before carpeting the tundra. ;-) -Greg Introducing the world's next largest natural gas reserve? I never thought that I would be

[geo] Introducing the World's Next Largest Natural Gas Reserve?

2009-11-25 Thread Brennan J.
Wouldn't be great if we could switch Asia from coal to natural gas (methane) and cool the arctic in the process? I never thought that I would be saying this but in a worse case scenario the deployment of white plastic sheeting could be utilized over permafrost regions if it was determined

[geo] Re: A simple argument for SRM geoengineering, again.

2009-11-25 Thread Brennan J.
Greg, Yes, renewable energy for the chloro-alkali chlorine gas to PVC production and PVC pipelines for the methane gas (meant in good humor). Well I am now determined to leave early before I come up with anymore outrageous geoengineering ideas... Wishing a Great Thanksgiving, Brennan On

[geo] scale, scope, structure

2009-11-25 Thread Diana Bronson
Dear Ken and other Geoengineering Group members, I am not sure exactly who the we in Ken Caldeira's message refers to, but I think it would be premature (to be generous) to assert there is meaningful consensus about the need to do research into climate intervention/geoengineering. In

Re: [geo] scale, scope, structure

2009-11-25 Thread Ken Caldeira
FYI, I believe this is from Diana Bronson of ETC: http://www.etcgroup.org/en/about/staff/diana-bronson On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Diana Bronson dianabron...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Ken and other Geoengineering Group members, I am not sure exactly who the we in Ken Caldeira's message

RE: [geo] scale, scope, structure

2009-11-25 Thread Veli Albert Kallio
Hi Diana, The geoengineering debate is largely forced upon us for the human unwillingess to cut emissions. Had you followed tonight's announcement the United States are not prepared to reduce their emissions more than 3-4% from 1990 levels, they present the matter using figures just couple

[geo] Re: scale, scope, emphasis, and structure of research programs (or program)

2009-11-25 Thread M V Bhaskar
Hi Does anybody else want to weigh in on scale, scope, emphasis, and structure of climate intervention research programs (or program)? I would like to elaborate on the use of biological organism and chemical engineering methods to stimulate biological organism growth. A.1. Approaches that

[geo] [Fwd: [biochar] Hasta siempre Peter Read!]

2009-11-25 Thread Ron Larson
Geoengineering list: I am sorry to pass on the attached sad news about the death of Peter Read. Ron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups geoengineering group. To post to this group, send email to geoengineer...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from

[geo] Re: scale, scope, structure

2009-11-25 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Group, Is full scale OIF still being considered? Fertilizing the greater part of the Southern Ocean simply will not work. Please see my published work on this. Discussing this further is a waste of time. Burr, I get frozen just think about it, Si, diatoms or not. Is OIF really a kind of

[geo] Re: scale, scope, structure

2009-11-25 Thread Oliver Wingenter
Dear Group, Is full scale OIF still being considered? Seriously, I don't know. Fertilizing the greater part of the Southern Ocean simply will not work. Please see my published work on this. Discussing this further is a waste of time. Burr, I get frozen just think about it, Si, diatoms or not.

Re: [geo] scale, scope, emphasis, and structure of research programs (or program)

2009-11-25 Thread RAU greg
Ken,Am all for getting a statement together, but am unclear on where this would ultimately be aimed - policy makers, funding agencies, governments, the public/media? -  In any case may I suggest that post-Copenhagen would be an opportune time to lay an overview of the issues and needs on

Re: [geo] [Fwd: [biochar] Hasta siempre Peter Read!]

2009-11-25 Thread Sam Carana
So sad to hear that news, Ron and others. We have lost a great man, who devoted so much of his time and work to improve the quality of soils and forests. Peter was one of the strongest advocates of biochar -- at the same time, Peter was one of the kindest persons I have come to know, always ready