Re: [geo] Re: New Research on OIF

2012-12-17 Thread Bhaskar M V
With population at 7 billion, projected to grow to 9 billion loss of any nutrients from soil is not a good idea, so transporting crop residue containing nutrients out to ocean may not be accepted as a matter of principle, irrespective of the numbers. There are many HNLCs in Ocean, so adding more

RE: [geo] Re: New Research on OIF

2012-12-17 Thread Stuart Strand
Regarding biochar, I would like Ron or others to provide a total estimate of the total amount of carbon that could be sequestered globally in agricultural soils only, not including any forest soils, with peer reviewed citations please. BECCS carbon analysis depends on whether efficient and

RE: [geo] Re: New Research on OIF

2012-12-17 Thread Andrew Lockley
Surely CO2 from BECCS doesn't need to be stored locally. Fuels (inc wood) are already shipped globally. Why should biofuel for BECCS be any different? It would make sense to take fuel by sea or rail to the best storage locations, or to pipe the CO2 to the same. Indeed, shipping compressed CO2 like

RE: [geo] Re: New Research on OIF

2012-12-17 Thread Stuart Strand
Sounds good, but it's another hurdle. Let's see what the math says. = Stuart = Stuart E. Strand 490 Ben Hall IDR Bldg. Box 355014, Univ. Washington Seattle, WA 98195 voice 206-543-5350, fax 206-685-9996 skype: stuartestrand http://faculty.washington.edu/sstrand/ From:

Re: [geo] Re: New Research on OIF

2012-12-17 Thread Chris
Ron and list, You might be interested in the ECOR report ‘Enhanced carbon storage in the ocean’ that can be found at: * http://www.oceanicresources.org/ecor-news/ocean-sequestration-of-carbon-working-group-report/attachment/ecor_wg_report_4-6_clean/

Re: [geo] Re: New Research on OIF

2012-12-17 Thread Bhaskar M V
The report mentions Phytoplankton 22 times and cyanobacteria 15 times. Diatoms are not mentioned even once. Diatoms are responsible for about 40 to 50% of primary production in oceans. No one appears to have even attempted to quantify Cyanobacteria's share. Diatoms sink on death and hence

[geo] FW: Watch the live webcast of Thomas C. Schelling on Geoengineering: Time for Some Gentle Experimentation

2012-12-17 Thread Rau, Greg
Sorry if this is old news. Maybe it's archived. Gentle Experimentation?? -Greg Tune in to the third lecture in RFF's Resources 2020http://e2ma.net/go/12972547356/214226886/238995672/1407838/goto:http:/www.rff.org/Resources2020 series: Thomas C. Schelling 2005 Nobel Laureate in Economic

[geo] Global Portrait of Aerosols

2012-12-17 Thread Rau, Greg
The present global aerosol program +-ethics. - Greg Download Image http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/706644main_705852main_GEOS5_full_full.jpeg Portrait of Global Aerosols High-resolution global atmospheric modeling run on the Discover supercomputer at the NASA Center for Climate Simulation

Re: [geo] Re: New Research on OIF

2012-12-17 Thread rongretlarson
Chris: Your message below has caused me to delay responding to other messages in this thread. I found the 68 page report to be new (to me), very well written, and one I will now follow up on closely. I found (p 61 (or 63/68) ) that Professor Jones also has a 2011 text book that I have ordered

[geo] The You don't have all the variables argument

2012-12-17 Thread Jim Lee
Despite the American Meteorological Society https://ams.confex.com/ams/, World Meteorological Organization http://www.wmo.int/, and the National Research Council's http://www.nationalacademies.org/nrc/ National Academy of Sciences Board on Atmospheric Sciences and

[geo] Re: X ray cloud seeding?

2012-12-17 Thread Dutch sinse
*http://www.google.com/patents/US4553256* Above link references plasma generation , using X-rays. Producing ionization and heating. So, in theory, it has been most certainly explored as a workable option. Other cases have shown plasma / ionization / electron cascade to induce CCN

Re: [geo] Re: New Research on OIF

2012-12-17 Thread rongretlarson
Greg et al See inserts below. - Original Message - From: RAU greg gh...@sbcglobal.net To: rongretlar...@comcast.net, bhaskarmv 64 bhaskarmv...@gmail.com Cc: joshic...@gmail.com, geoengineering@googlegroups.com, Doug Karlen doug.kar...@ars.usda.gov Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012

Re: [geo] Re: New Research on OIF

2012-12-17 Thread rongretlarson
Stewart and Andrew This being exclusively about BECCS, I answer this before going to Stuart's two earlier messages today re biochar and CROPS. Few inserts - mainly in Andrew's message. - Original Message - From: Stuart Strand sstr...@u.washington.edu To: andrew lockley

Re: [geo] Re: New Research on OIF

2012-12-17 Thread rongretlarson
Stuart (with ccs) It seems best to at least start to answer both of your responses at one time. So I bring here your earlier response today with a few inserts: You wrote (with my inserts): The 2009 paper I wrote with Benford was a quantitative analysis of the ocean sequestration ideas of