[geo] CCS efficiencies in using geothermal saline aquifers with methane?

2013-06-03 Thread Brian Cartwright
http://www.energy.utexas.edu/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=64Itemid=71 A team of scientists led by University of Texas at Austin Professor Gary Pope has developed a new, game-changing idea that combines these two technologies and adds another – the dissolution of CO2 into

Re: [geo] Re: Meanwhile, in CDR news...

2013-06-03 Thread Oliver Tickell
But why no mention of CDR by accelerated rock weathering (AGR)? This is one of the solutions selected by the Virgin Challenge - the one from Netherlands. And it is being promoted by Olaf Schuilling, who is a member of this Geoengineering Group. This is a low tech, low cost approach - which

[geo] Marine Cloud Brightening pros cons. Alan Robock criteria

2013-06-03 Thread John Latham
To-: [rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu];[geoengineering@googlegroups.com] From:- [lat...@ucar.edu] Hello Alan Colleagues, Yes, as when convenient it would be interesting, Alan, to learn from you which of your 26 objections to stratospheric seeding apply to Marine Cloud Brightening (MCB): and, of

Re: [geo] NASA Ames meeting

2013-06-03 Thread Lou Grinzo
This is an excellent, concise summary of the lock-in effect I've been droning on about for years, and I think it is still vastly un(der)appreciated by people concerned/engaged with climate change. There is some high-profile acknowledgement of this situation, e.g. IEA's top economist, Fatih

Re: [geo] Re: Meanwhile, in CDR news...

2013-06-03 Thread RAU greg
Thanks. Yes, lots of great ideas out there. Speaking of the Virgin Earth Challenge (apparently the only CDR game in town), what the heck happened to the prize? Did they quietly select a winner, split the money among finalists, or say sorry, no winner, thanks for all of the great ideas, we

[geo] Re: Marine Cloud Brightening pros cons. Alan Robock criteria

2013-06-03 Thread Alan Robock
Dear John, We are designing an MCB GeoMIP experiment so we can see how robust the results are from the climate models that have already done these experiments, but all differently. In theory, there would be both benefits and risks, and these must be quantified. From my list, you can cross

Re: [geo] Re: Meanwhile, in CDR news...

2013-06-03 Thread Oliver Tickell
From David A's article: One interesting initiative is the Virgin Earth Challenge, which was launched in 2007. Sponsored by Richard Branson, it offers $25m to whoever can demonstrate a sustainable and scalable design to permanently remove a billion tonnes of carbon from the air every year for 10

RE: [geo] Re: Marine Cloud Brightening pros cons. Alan Robock criteria

2013-06-03 Thread John Latham
Hello again Alan, I agree entirely with your comments below, and look forward to learning the results of yr assessment. All Best,John. John Latham Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-8182

Re: [geo] Re: Meanwhile, in CDR news...

2013-06-03 Thread rongretlarson
Greg, list and ccs 1. I am not the best person to respond on this challenge discussion, but I recommend going to this site for latest update: http://www.virginearth.com/ There were 11 finalists for the $25 million prize; three were biochar companies. I believe we are still within the 5 year

[geo] RE: Marine Cloud Brightening pros cons. Alan Robock criteria

2013-06-03 Thread John Latham
Hello Olaf, I should have mentioned that, re hurricanes coral, our idea is to maintain the SST's in the appropriate areas at current values, using MCB to counter CO2 increase. Trying to reduce SSTs below current values is a different and possibly dangerous game, which we are not considering.

RE: [geo] Re: Marine Cloud Brightening pros cons. Alan Robock criteria

2013-06-03 Thread Doug MacMartin
Hi Stephen, Did you or Ben conduct a signal to noise analysis for this? (Sorry, I haven't read his thesis, nor walked through quantitative analysis myself.) When we did our testing paper a few years back, we found that a global-scale forcing of 1 W/m^2 would still take decades to get adequate

Re: [geo] Rotman, CDR, and morality

2013-06-03 Thread rongretlarson
Charles and list: 1. I don't think I misinterpreted the quote. I said below I believe one can't possibly get the ethics of either geoengineering or SRM correct if you believe CDR has this presumed dismal future . I am in perfect agreement with your sentence below: This is what led my

Re: [geo] Re: Meanwhile, in CDR news...

2013-06-03 Thread Andrew Lockley
Back on thread for a moment, I'd be particularly keen to see an analysis of the scale limitations to the electro CDR approach. I'm concerned about the localised/regional impact of changes in ocean chemistry. Is anyone able to model this? A On Jun 3, 2013 6:45 PM, rongretlar...@comcast.net

RE: [geo] Re: Meanwhile, in CDR news...

2013-06-03 Thread Rau, Greg
Note to future prize sponsors: selecting 10 technologies in YR 1 from which one winner will be chosen in YR 10 runs the risk of ignoring new and potentially better ideas that arise in the interim. Imagine selecting a winning computer technology from ideas that are ten years old? Much better to