Re: [geo] Re: First simulations of designing stratospheric sulfate aerosol geoengineering to meet multiple simultaneous climate objectives - Kravitz - 2017 - Journal of Geophysical Research: Atmospher

2017-11-08 Thread Michael Hayes
Simon and List, Thank for your assurance. I will learn what I can from the details and thank you for making them available. In my past readings on this concern, only GCMs have been used to work this issue. I will calm my concerns over sufur warming the poles based upon your claims. Yet seeing an

Re: [geo] Re: First simulations of designing stratospheric sulfate aerosol geoengineering to meet multiple simultaneous climate objectives - Kravitz - 2017 - Journal of Geophysical Research: Atmospher

2017-11-08 Thread Simone Tilmes
Hi Michael, our model does include PSC, and includes the important chemical reactions that are related to those. We are running with most recent updated schemes that from PSCs, liquid and ice clouds. You are welcome to dive into our recent model description papers, if you like. Our model compares

Re: [geo] Re: First simulations of designing stratospheric sulfate aerosol geoengineering to meet multiple simultaneous climate objectives - Kravitz - 2017 - Journal of Geophysical Research: Atmospher

2017-11-08 Thread Michael Hayes
Ben, if you ever do get around to running the model with PSCs, I would be interested in viewing the results and learning more about the details of your model. As I have had my concerns over this sulfur/PSC issue for years, I've read up on a number of models specifically crafted for PSCs and most

Re: [geo] Re: First simulations of designing stratospheric sulfate aerosol geoengineering to meet multiple simultaneous climate objectives - Kravitz - 2017 - Journal of Geophysical Research: Atmospher

2017-11-08 Thread Ben Kravitz
Hi Michael - We do have a thorough treatment of polar stratospheric clouds in our simulations. We haven't looked into the details that you're talking about, but in principle, someone could. I know basically nothing about wetted carbon. We used stratospheric sulfate aerosols in our

Re: [geo] Re: First simulations of designing stratospheric sulfate aerosol geoengineering to meet multiple simultaneous climate objectives - Kravitz - 2017 - Journal of Geophysical Research: Atmospher

2017-11-08 Thread Michael Hayes
Ben, Judging from the topical description of this University Center for Atmospheric Research recent work, in this model we do not find weight given to Sulfur's role in Polar Stratospheric Cloud creation and the resulting heat feedback.

Re: [geo] Re: First simulations of designing stratospheric sulfate aerosol geoengineering to meet multiple simultaneous climate objectives - Kravitz - 2017 - Journal of Geophysical Research: Atmospher

2017-11-07 Thread Ben Kravitz
Hi Stephen - I can say a ton about frequency response and phase shift. The foundation for all of that work was done in this paper for solar reduction: https://www.earth-syst-dynam.net/7/469/2016/esd-7-469-2016.html It turned out that we could use a similar control algorithm with a factor of

Re: [geo] Re: First simulations of designing stratospheric sulfate aerosol geoengineering to meet multiple simultaneous climate objectives - Kravitz - 2017 - Journal of Geophysical Research: Atmospher

2017-11-07 Thread Stephen Salter
Hi Ben Can you say anything about frequency-response and phase-shift? Stephen Emeritus Professor of Engineering Design. School of Engineering, University of Edinburgh, Mayfield Road, Edinburgh EH9 3DW, Scotland s.sal...@ed.ac.uk, Tel +44 (0)131 650 5704, Cell 07795 203 195,