[geo] Volcanoes and climate - Cole-Dai - 2010 - Wiley Interdisciplinary Reviews: Climate Change

2013-10-06 Thread Andrew Lockley
Poster's note : 3 years old, but directly relevant, and hasn't made the
list yet. I've recently posted some later analyses to the list which may
supercede some of the core analysis referred to in this paper.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/wcc.76/abstract

Abstract

Of the natural forcings causing short-term climatic variations, volcanism,
along with its climatic impact, is perhaps the best understood. The primary
net result of the impact is the reduced receipt of solar energy at Earth's
surface due to the scattering of incoming solar radiation by secondary
sulfate aerosols formed from volcanic sulfur. The quantitative effects can
be measured in energy-balance-based climate models, which require
validation using high-quality paleoclimatic and paleovolcanic data. An
important advancement in the effort to understand the role of volcanism in
climate change in the recent decade is the significant improvement in
paleovolcanic records from polar ice cores, represented by long records
with unprecedented temporal accuracy and precision, and by the potential to
identify climate-impacting stratospheric eruptions in the records. Other
improvements include (1) the investigation of long-term relationship
between eruptions (including super-eruptions) and climate variations,
beyond an eruption's radiative impact of up to a few years; (2) a better
understanding of the response to volcanic perturbation of feedback
mechanisms in the climate system; and (3) the limited role of volcanic
eruptions in the era of human-induced greenhouse warming. Urgent
research/investigation is needed to evaluate the geoengineering proposition
to counteract greenhouse warming by injecting sulfur dioxide into the
stratosphere, which is based on the significant cooling effects of
stratospheric volcanic eruptions, and its serious unintended
consequences. WIREs Clim Change 2010 1 824–839 DOI: 10.1002/wcc.76

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Re: [geo] Re: [off-topic] Romm post criticizing allowable CO2 emissions budget concept

2013-10-06 Thread Michael C Trachtenberg
People give up a resource, of any kind and with any burden, only under a few 
conditions (not in any order): 1 - rigorously enforced government mandate, be 
it taxes or regulations (but remember prohibition which failed as no viable 
option was offered) 2 - buy out, 3 - existence of a preferable alternative, 
based on economic, political, cultural, religious or some other respected 
driver but not education or moral suasion, or distant future gains or costs as 
these are deeply discounted.
No one knows when that last tree is cut that makes the forest unsustainable 
(not as is commonly stated, the very last tree) and so there is much argument 
and righteous justification. The future is almost always sacrificed for the 
present.

The start point for change is on the ground not in pronouncements or policy 
documents. Demonstrated performance promotes acceptance. The issue to be 
addressed is how to harness the not insignificant knowledge, skills and 
contacts of this group to promote tangible engineering.

Mike Trachtenberg



On Oct 1, 2013, at 3:28 PM, David Lewis jrandomwin...@gmail.com wrote:

 it might be that for the middle classes of the industrial world that climate 
 change is really a secondary issue and they'll still have their TV sets and 
 their McBurgers and McNuggets to eat and life would go on   
 
 - thus spake Ken Caldeira, discussing his Sept 2012 Scientific American 
 article in a video produced by himself.  He says in the video the article is 
 his answer to a question posed to him by Sci-Am editors, i.e. what would 
 happen if we burned ALL the fossil fuels available and dumped that CO2 into 
 the atmosphere?
 
 What if Pachauri produced a 4 minute video discussing the new Working Group I 
 AR5 report using this do nothing about your fossil fuel addiction and a 
 hundred years from now people just like you might still be watching TV and 
 eating their McBurgers worrying about something else concept, saying the 
 IPCC thought this could be one way things might turn out, after civilization 
 burned ALL the fossil fuels?  
 
 Those who promote the carbon budget approach are doing so in reaction to a 
 previous effort which had not roused civilization to act decisively.  Almost 
 everyone used to sign on to calls for civilization to act to reduce GHG 
 emissions by a certain percentage by a certain date.  An example of a fairly 
 recent call like this, for approximately 50% reduction in global emissions 
 from 1990 levels by 2050 is the G8 +5 Academies Joint Statement.  Similar 
 calls date back to at least 1988.  
 
 The criticism is, politicians and everyone else might think they could expand 
 emissions right up until 2049 and then deal with the problem.  Civilization 
 is certainly continuing to expand its emissions.   Hence the push by some to 
 try a different approach.  
 
 Schellnhuber, who is central in the German discussion about what that country 
 should do about climate change, has been promoting this relatively new carbon 
 budget approach.  He is, according to Caldeira if I understand him correctly, 
 one of these dangerous noise makers.  Why is it that Germany seems so far 
 ahead of the US when it comes to taking nationally coordinated action aimed 
 at limiting emission of GHG?  The principal adviser to Chancellor Merkel on 
 climate change has been prescribing a recipe for disaster that can only 
 encourage politicians to delay concrete action now.  Presumably, Merkel has 
 been ignoring her climate adviser.  
 
 An example of the way Schellnhuber presents the carbon budget concept was 
 recorded, i.e. when he gave the keynote and the closing remarks at the 4 
 degrees conference in Australia.  He thought the approach had advantages.  
 
 Obviously, since it is a fact that civilization is recarbonizing its energy 
 system notwithstanding the total of everything Germany and every other 
 country is doing, this approach could also be a flop.  
 
 Enter Caldeira.  
 
 He offers his idea, i.e. it is imperative that we frame the issue differently 
 again.  Fine.  Not one more emitted molecule of CO2 is allowable, we must 
 say, while driving our motorcycles to work or as we fly to the next 
 scientific conference.  We must preach that everyone should believe that 
 when I emit CO2, I am transgressing against nature and future generations, 
 period.  
 
 Maybe it will work.  However, condemning the sincere efforts of others who 
 have better results in their own countries to show for their efforts, just 
 because nothing so far anywhere is good enough, in the way Caldeira has, goes 
 too far.  
 
 Ease up on those acid filled beakers was a caption under a Far Side cartoon 
 of scientists fighting each other in a lab.   
 

 
 On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 1:16:49 AM UTC-7, Ken Caldeira wrote:
 I usually try to avoid off-topic posts, but this time I feel strongly enough 
 that I just can't resist temptation. 
 
 (He was responding to the Romm post, i.e. 
 

[geo] Arctic microbial community dynamics influenced by elevated CO2 levels

2013-10-06 Thread Andrew Lockley
Poster's note : of relevance to OIF, although sadly not done in the
Southern Ocean. Nevertheless it shows that OIF might do some odd stuff in a
high CO2 world, and we can't assume things will work as expected when
rolled out in a panic mid-century.

http://www.biogeosciences.net/10/719/2013/bg-10-719-2013.html

Arctic microbial community dynamics influenced by elevated CO2 levels

Abstract.
The Arctic Ocean ecosystem is particularly vulnerable to ocean
acidification (OA) related alterations due to the relatively high
CO2 solubility and low carbonate saturation states of its cold surface
waters. Thus far, however, there is only little known about the
consequences of OA on the base of the food web. In a mesocosm
CO2-enrichment experiment (overall CO2 levels ranged from ~ 180 to 1100
μatm) in Kongsfjorden off Svalbard, we studied the consequences of OA on a
natural pelagic microbial community. OA distinctly affected the composition
and growth of the Arctic phytoplankton community, i.e. the picoeukaryotic
photoautotrophs and to a lesser extent the nanophytoplankton thrived. A
shift towards the smallest phytoplankton as a result of OA will have direct
consequences for the structure and functioning of the pelagic food web and
thus for the biogeochemical cycles. Besides being grazed, the dominant
pico- and nanophytoplankton groups were found prone to viral lysis, thereby
shunting the carbon accumulation in living organisms into the dissolved
pools of organic carbon and subsequently affecting the efficiency of the
biological pump in these Arctic waters.

Citation:
Brussaard, C. P. D., Noordeloos, A. A. M., Witte, H., Collenteur, M. C. J.,
Schulz, K., Ludwig, A., and Riebesell, U.: Arctic microbial community
dynamics influenced by elevated CO2 levels, Biogeosciences, 10, 719-731,
doi:10.5194/bg-10-719-2013, 2013.

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Re: [geo] Time for a Government Advisory Committee on Geoengineering Research

2013-10-06 Thread Ronal W. Larson
Jesse and Andrew:

  1.  Thanks for the lead on the Winickoff-Brown article.  They referenced an 
article (no fee) by Long and Scott that I thought was also very good at
http://www.issues.org/29.3/long.html .  Not enough, though,  in either paper on 
separating Geo into SRM and CDR.

  2.  Reading both papers, I didn't see discussion of national vs 
international.  The latter looks quite difficult, but could perhaps be based on 
a national model that neither paper referenced:  a Congressional Office.   I 
was, while on sabbatical, an early employee of the Office of Technology 
Assessment (OTA).  OTA was headed by a 12 member board consisting of three from 
each house of Congress and each party. The various administrations paid 
attention and helped.  After 20 years, it was killed by Newt Gingrich in 1994 
as a budget-saving gesture for Congress.  I think a big mistake as OTA did good 
work and probably saved a lot of money over the years.  The GAO and the CRS are 
good, but can't do the deep work for Congress that OTA did.

  3.  I suggest that resurrecting OTA (needs a new name) would have many of the 
features that the four authors were after.  Might work similarly for the UN, 
but not as obvious how to have a balanced governing board.

Ron



On Oct 6, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Andrew Lockley andrew.lock...@gmail.com wrote:

 This article is now available in pdf at 
 http://ourenvironment.berkeley.edu/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/GeoE-ISSUES-Advisory-Committee.pdf
 
 A short teaser is below.
 
 Time for a Government Advisory Committee on Geoengineering Research
 
 Even talking about research on geoengineering stirs controversy. Creating an 
 effective mechanism for such discussions will be an essential prerequisite to 
 any scientific work.
 SUMMER 2013 79
 
 Nobody likes geoengineering. But whether your basic response is revulsion or 
 resignation, the idea is getting increasing attention, and we need to develop 
 a better way of talking about it. The most prominent scheme, known as solar 
 radiation management (SRM), would aim to reduce global warming by spraying 
 aerosols into the stratosphere or whitening clouds, thereby reflecting more 
 sunlight back into space. Even strong advocates of geoengineering research 
 acknowledge the many risks involved. The physical risks include possible 
 shifts in global precipitation patterns and increased droughts and floods in 
 the world’s most vulnerable regions. The political risks include the 
 possibility that geoengineering technologies will provide a welcome excuse to 
 avoid difficult measures to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. (continues)
 
 
 On 23 September 2013 09:07, J.L. Reynolds j.l.reyno...@uvt.nl wrote:
 Time for a Government Advisory Committee on Geoengineering Research
 
 Winickoff, David E.
 Brown, Mark B.
 
 Issues in Science and Technology
 Summer 2013
 
  
 
 Even talking about research on geoengineering stirs controversy.Creating an 
 effective mechanism for such discussions will be an essential prerequisite to 
 any scientific work.
 
  
 
 http://www.scribd.com/doc/170204286/Time-for-a-Government-Advisory-Committee-on-Geoengineering-Research
 
  
 
 -
 
 Jesse L. Reynolds, M.S.
 
 PhD Candidate
 
 European and International Public Law
 
 Tilburg Sustainability Center
 
 Tilburg University, The Netherlands
 
 Book review editor, Law, Innovation, and Technology
 
 email: j.l.reyno...@uvt.nl
 
 http://www.tilburguniversity.edu/webwijs/show/?uid=j.l.reynolds
 
  
 
 
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