[geo] Lohafex results

2014-04-25 Thread O Morton
Does anyone know where the final results from Lohafex were published (or indeed if they were published?) There were, I think, some preliminary results published within a year or so, but there doesn't seem to be a big synoptic publication anywhere, or a special issue, or anything like that. Am

Re: [geo] new article by Clive Hamilton

2014-04-24 Thread O Morton
I kind of object to the idea that the SPM process constitutes tampering by politicians. First: it's the process, an intergovernmental process, that gives the IPCC heft. It was baked into the design by Bert Bolin in order to create a document that would fulfill politcal functions. If you don't

Re: [geo] TERRA FUTURA 2013: INTERVIEW WITH VANDANA SHIVA ABOUT GEOENGINEERING | NoGeoingegneria

2013-10-28 Thread O Morton
Dear David When you're responding to my arguments, how do you get from carefully and thoughtfully, in the quotation Ron offers, to in all ways the human imagination can conceive? To me, and I suspect most readers, carefully and thoughtfully means precisely what you say is required: that people

Re: [geo] TERRA FUTURA 2013: INTERVIEW WITH VANDANA SHIVA ABOUT GEOENGINEERING | NoGeoingegneria

2013-10-28 Thread O Morton
Dear David Though obviously you couldn't know this, in the context of the preceding paras, it should be fairly clear that the flight deck metaphor applies to a range of choices of which climate geoengineering options are only a subset (new energy sources, new farming practices etc) The

[geo] University of Sussex geoengineering event

2013-10-25 Thread O Morton
We need to do more research on geoengineering -- in Hove, Thursday 7th November, 19:00 -- Free non-ticketed Featuring Helena Paul, http://www.econexus.info/who-we-are, Matt Watson http://thereluctantgeoengineer.blogspot.co.uk/, Andy Stirling

Re: [geo] Climate Engineering Conference 2014

2013-10-25 Thread O Morton
Dear Ron Your expertise would obviously be valuable. I strongly suggest that you offer to organise one or more sessions. It may be that the advisory board (which I'm on) could do with more CDR expertise, and I see no reason why, in principle, more could not be added. I'll raise the question

[geo] Re: When enhanced weathering is a bad thing?

2013-10-25 Thread O Morton
Dear Greg I really value much of what you post to this group, but could you possibly start new threads when you post interesting new papers, rather than slipping them into existing threads, as here? It would make getting stuff out of these discussions a little easier, at least for me... Very

Re: [geo] proposed definition of geoengineering, suitable for use in an international legal context (version 25 Sep 2013)

2013-09-25 Thread O Morton
I think there's a problem with intentended. It defines the act in terms of the mental stance of the actor, which is not open to objective scrutiny, This opens the possibility of large climate manipulations which are geoengineering to some but not to others, which I think is what you're trying

Re: [geo] proposed definition of geoengineering, suitable for use in an international legal context (version 25 Sep 2013)

2013-09-25 Thread O Morton
Ooops. I did what I was compaining about. Aimed at is as bad as intended. What i should have said: large-scale technological interventions that act to decouple climate outcomes from cumulative greenhouse-gas emissions. On Wednesday, 25 September 2013 11:56:06 UTC+1, O Morton wrote: I think

Re: [geo] Linking solar geoengineering and emissions reduction

2013-09-12 Thread O Morton
Ken As always (I am a stuck record on this, for those old enough to remember stuck records) surely it depends on the weasel word we Imagine a world in which *Bad Stuff, maybe Very Bad Stuff, is happening *Research, including some field research, strongly suggests that sunshine geoengineering

[geo] Re: Oli Morton with Opinion Article on Nitrogen Geoengineering

2013-07-13 Thread O Morton
One very minor thing about this thread. Though I am happy for friends and I suppose others to call me Oli, for professional work I do prefer Oliver On Tuesday, 9 July 2013 12:16:29 UTC+1, geoengineeringourclimate wrote: Dear colleagues, Oli Morton of The Economist has penned an Opinion

[geo] Re: Oli Morton with Opinion Article on Nitrogen Geoengineering

2013-07-11 Thread O Morton
UTC-7, O Morton wrote: David (and also Andrew),-- if you look at Morton's reasoning as expressed in the text, you'll find that I don't agree. The technology required for the industrial takeover of the nitrogen cycle did not appear through an unguided process of innovation, nor

[geo] Re: Oli Morton with Opinion Article on Nitrogen Geoengineering

2013-07-10 Thread O Morton
David (and also Andrew),-- if you look at Morton's reasoning as expressed in the text, you'll find that I don't agree. The technology required for the industrial takeover of the nitrogen cycle did not appear through an unguided process of innovation, nor was it deployed that way; the foresight

[geo] SRM and droughts in the Sahel

2013-04-02 Thread O Morton
Asymmetric forcing from stratospheric aerosols impacts Sahelian rainfall - Jim M. Haywoodhttp://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nclimate1857.html#auth-1 , - Andy Joneshttp://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nclimate1857.html#auth-2 , -

[geo] Re: Asymmetric forcing from stratospheric aerosols impacts Sahelian rainfall : Nature Climate Change

2013-04-02 Thread O Morton
Sorry, Andrew, I seem to have thoughtlessly double threaded -- feel free to put my recent post into this thread if that is within your moderating remit... On Monday, 1 April 2013 11:17:28 UTC+1, andrewjlockley wrote: Posters note: a discussion of the policy implications of this paper can be

[geo] Re: SRM and droughts in the Sahel

2013-04-02 Thread O Morton
Please post follow ups on earlier thread: Asymmetric forcing from stratospheric aerosols impacts Sahelian rainfall -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups geoengineering group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[geo] Artificial volcano - Budyko?

2013-03-30 Thread O Morton
Does anyone know where the term artificial volcano first came from? I think it was Budyko, but I can't find hard evidence... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups geoengineering group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

Re: [geo] Nature eifex report

2012-07-21 Thread O Morton
The reported ratio of C:Fe for IEFEX is 10,000:1. The redfield C:P ration is about 100:1. So you'd need your 100 tankers to be carrying pure phosphate, not sewage, no? On Thursday, 19 July 2012 09:13:22 UTC+1, M V Bhaskar wrote: Ken You are right to a certain extent when you say - So, to

[geo] Re: Geoengineering experiment cancelled amid patent row

2012-05-16 Thread O Morton
http://thereluctantgeoengineer.blogspot.de/2012/05/testbed-news.html SPICE personal statement. It is with some regret that today the SPICE team has announced we’ve decided to call off the outdoor ‘1km testbed’ experiment that was scheduled for later this year. The reasons for this are complex

[geo] Re: Ethics of Geoengineering (anything new?)

2012-04-08 Thread O Morton
I agree with Ninad; philosophy feeds on novelty in its continual reassessments; it doesn't assimilate it in a serial model of progress. Many philosophical problems are not solved (though they may be moved outside the realm of philosophy by other developments), and few are novel. There's a relevant

[geo] Presentations from Direct Air Capture summit

2012-04-08 Thread O Morton
Some of these have now been posted here http://www.iseee.ca/DACS/ by the excellent Mark Lowey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups geoengineering group. To post to this group, send email to geoengineering@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this

[geo] Re: Calgary meeting on Direct Air Capture - thoughts?

2012-03-24 Thread O Morton
A few points as someone at the meeting and, it appears, a gusher... As Tim Fox pointed out in Calgary, the lack of any near-term likelihood of large carbon markets paying substantial prices has changed the terms of discussion. If DAC is to have any chance near term (and my feeling was that the

[geo] Re: Our group's discussion themes in NewScientist

2012-02-07 Thread O Morton
I'm pretty sure that in Fred Pohl's early 1980s energy and climate change novel The Cool War the fundamental heating issue is waste heat, rather than greenhousing On Jan 28, 7:42 am, Andrew Lockley andrew.lock...@gmail.com wrote: A few months back we discussed a controversial set of papers which

[geo] Re: White roof snag

2011-11-03 Thread O Morton
Stephen (or John, or Phil, or anyone else) have any of your modellings of cloud brightening looked at this effect? If you were to brighten clouds under a dark aerosol (eg Asian Brown Cloud or equivalent off west africa) might you not be trading warming at the surface for warming at the dark

[geo] Re: Relocate the moon to Earth Sun L1

2011-02-08 Thread O Morton
also, lower tides means less risk from raised sea level... On Feb 5, 6:22 pm, BradGuth bradg...@gmail.com wrote: It's not as hard as you might think, and we'd get up to 3.5% shade, although that could easily be adjusted to suit, and there are a few other benefits besides terrific job security