RE: Why no Formula E?
Wow, that seems complex, mine is just: search0 The Repair Shop Works fine for me! > -Original Message- > From: get_iplayer On Behalf Of > Don Grunbaum > Sent: 26 April 2021 08:41 > To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > Subject: Re: Why no Formula E? > > As an example, this is my file for "The Repair Shop": > > == > == > excludecategory children,primary > excludechannel > alba,cymru,news,s4c,cbbc,cbeebies,parliament,bbcthree,northern > ireland,wales pid b08l581p modes best output V:\BBC iPlayer Recordings\The > Repair Shop subtitles 1 thumb 0 type tv versionlist default pidrecursive 1 > == > == > > Obviously some of your settings will differ. I also use a .txt suffix on all my pvr > files as it makes them easier to edit. > > ATB > > Don > > - Original Message - > From: Steve Wilson > To: > Sent: 25/04/2021 22:20:06 > Subject: Re: Why no Formula E? > __ > __ > > > On 25/04/2021 13:47, Don Grunbaum wrote: > > I believe that only programmes that are broadcast through the "regular" > channels appear in the GiP cache. > > > > To pick up others such as these and "box sets" you should use the series > pid and the recursive option. > > > > HTH > > > > Don > > ... > > Would this be more reliable for other series too? For example having > "search0 Click" for pvr can match other things too so I've other options and > excludes. > > Do you have an example or link I can use to configure pvr to do this? > > Steve. > > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Why no Formula E?
As an example, this is my file for "The Repair Shop": excludecategory children,primary excludechannel alba,cymru,news,s4c,cbbc,cbeebies,parliament,bbcthree,northern ireland,wales pid b08l581p modes best output V:\BBC iPlayer Recordings\The Repair Shop subtitles 1 thumb 0 type tv versionlist default pidrecursive 1 Obviously some of your settings will differ. I also use a .txt suffix on all my pvr files as it makes them easier to edit. ATB Don - Original Message - From: Steve Wilson To: Sent: 25/04/2021 22:20:06 Subject: Re: Why no Formula E? On 25/04/2021 13:47, Don Grunbaum wrote: > I believe that only programmes that are broadcast through the "regular" > channels appear in the GiP cache. > > To pick up others such as these and "box sets" you should use the series pid > and the recursive option. > > HTH > > Don ... Would this be more reliable for other series too? For example having "search0 Click" for pvr can match other things too so I've other options and excludes. Do you have an example or link I can use to configure pvr to do this? Steve. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: OT: Re: Unknown unknows. was Re: Why no Formula E?
On 25/04/2021 19:52, Andrew wrote: A bit behind the times are we? Pit stops haven't happened since season 4 following the introduction of the Gen2 cars. Races are 45min + 1 lap with the same car. That was a welcome improvement, but they are still stuck with too many gimmicks for me, "fan-boost", being able to drive over different bits of the track to get more energy, and so forth. Seems more like dodgem racing at times! The coverage is too variable. One race it's live from the BBC studio (in London), anther it's listed as live (on the iPlayer) but it isn't. The Extreme-E seems purer racing. https://www.extreme-e.com/ -- David Web: http://www.satsignal.eu ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Why no Formula E?
I'm not sure that you've followed the thread fully, George. Your search will pick up "The Repair Shop" programmes in the cache, no problem. The original question (from Steve Wilson) is about picking up programmes that are not in the cache, but available on iPlayer, such as "box sets" and those broadcast through the "red button" or the iPlayer itself, like the Formula E races. Admittedly in my example only two or three of the lines are essential - pid, pidrecursive, and output (if you don't want all downloads going to the same folder). The others are put there by the "web interface" as they are my default options. I hope that's clear. Don - Original Message - From: George Eycott To: Sent: 26/04/2021 09:10:21 Subject: RE: Why no Formula E? Wow, that seems complex, mine is just: search0 The Repair Shop Works fine for me! > -Original Message- > From: get_iplayer On Behalf Of > Don Grunbaum > Sent: 26 April 2021 08:41 > To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > Subject: Re: Why no Formula E? > > As an example, this is my file for "The Repair Shop": > > == > == > excludecategory children,primary > excludechannel > alba,cymru,news,s4c,cbbc,cbeebies,parliament,bbcthree,northern > ireland,wales pid b08l581p modes best output V:\BBC iPlayer Recordings\The > Repair Shop subtitles 1 thumb 0 type tv versionlist default pidrecursive 1 > == > == > > Obviously some of your settings will differ. I also use a .txt suffix on all my pvr > files as it makes them easier to edit. > > ATB > > Don > > - Original Message - > From: Steve Wilson > To: > Sent: 25/04/2021 22:20:06 > Subject: Re: Why no Formula E? > __ > __ > > > On 25/04/2021 13:47, Don Grunbaum wrote: > > I believe that only programmes that are broadcast through the "regular" > channels appear in the GiP cache. > > > > To pick up others such as these and "box sets" you should use the series > pid and the recursive option. > > > > HTH > > > > Don > > ... > > Would this be more reliable for other series too? For example having > "search0 Click" for pvr can match other things too so I've other options and > excludes. > > Do you have an example or link I can use to configure pvr to do this? > > Steve. > > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
RE: Why no Formula E?
Ah fair enough, I was just a bit thrown as to why you would need/want to exclude a load of channels when you have specified a PID, but it sounds like they are probably the defaults for your web PVR and get_iplayer has copied them to the pvr file. > -Original Message- > From: get_iplayer On Behalf Of > Don Grunbaum > Sent: 26 April 2021 17:00 > To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > Subject: Re: Why no Formula E? > > I'm not sure that you've followed the thread fully, George. > > Your search will pick up "The Repair Shop" programmes in the cache, no > problem. The original question (from Steve Wilson) is about picking up > programmes that are not in the cache, but available on iPlayer, such as "box > sets" and those broadcast through the "red button" or the iPlayer itself, like > the Formula E races. > > Admittedly in my example only two or three of the lines are essential - pid, > pidrecursive, and output (if you don't want all downloads going to the same > folder). > > The others are put there by the "web interface" as they are my default > options. > > I hope that's clear. > > Don > > - Original Message - > From: George Eycott > To: > Sent: 26/04/2021 09:10:21 > Subject: RE: Why no Formula E? > __ > __ > > Wow, that seems complex, mine is just: > > search0 The Repair Shop > > Works fine for me! > > > -Original Message- > > From: get_iplayer On Behalf > > Of Don Grunbaum > > Sent: 26 April 2021 08:41 > > To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > > Subject: Re: Why no Formula E? > > > > As an example, this is my file for "The Repair Shop": > > > > > == > > == > > excludecategory children,primary > > excludechannel > > alba,cymru,news,s4c,cbbc,cbeebies,parliament,bbcthree,northern > > ireland,wales pid b08l581p modes best output V:\BBC iPlayer > > Recordings\The Repair Shop subtitles 1 thumb 0 type tv versionlist > > default pidrecursive 1 > > > == > > == > > > > Obviously some of your settings will differ. I also use a .txt suffix > > on > all my pvr > > files as it makes them easier to edit. > > > > ATB > > > > Don > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Steve Wilson > > To: > > Sent: 25/04/2021 22:20:06 > > Subject: Re: Why no Formula E? > > > __ > > __ > > > > > > On 25/04/2021 13:47, Don Grunbaum wrote: > > > I believe that only programmes that are broadcast through the "regular" > > channels appear in the GiP cache. > > > > > > To pick up others such as these and "box sets" you should use the > > > series > > pid and the recursive option. > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > Don > > > > ... > > > > Would this be more reliable for other series too? For example having > > "search0 Click" for pvr can match other things too so I've other > > options > and > > excludes. > > > > Do you have an example or link I can use to configure pvr to do this? > > > > Steve. > > > > > > ___ > > get_iplayer mailing list > > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > > > > ___ > > get_iplayer mailing list > > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Failing to download msg
I've noticed an increase over the past few months in getting the failed to download messages see sample after this message, which is the last error then success. Initially before Christmas it was every so often. Jan and Feb it moved to repeat once or twice on most of the downloads with a few not an issue but all download OK. In the last couple of months it's been every file fail message twice then downloads OK. Today I had a couple with 5 fails then downloads OK. I appreciate that the program says ignore the message if it downloads and my downloads are successful... However I was wondering if anyone else is getting the same level of response as I am and if so, does anyone actually know why the frequency might be increasing. Asking partly because I just like to know these sorts of things but also partly because if it's something to do with my setup I'd like to get it back to "normal". I haven't changed the config options for about 2 years so I'm presuming it's more likely changes at the remote end. I could speculate but I'm wondering if anyone knows. Ta. -- ERROR: Failed to download URL (3/3): https://c1b1bteaips.sp.bidi.live.bbc.co.uk/vod-hls-uk/usp/auth/vod/piff_abr_full_sd/dcfde3-p07kvctj/vf_p07kvctj_a 8cac489-bdda-483f-ae0d-27d3d7ddf42b.ism/pc_hd_abr_v2_hls_master.m3u8?at=Ww262mGZ7a1dc6a235e548cffcab8cc34065bf98ee8f60005c0e34bc71240 ERROR: Response: 403 Forbidden ERROR: Access to this resource was blocked by the BBC ERROR: Ignore this error if programme download is successful INFO: Downloading tv: 'Silent Witness: Series 5 - 06. Faith, Part 2 (p032kkx2) [original]' INFO: Downloaded: 658.19 MB (00:49:54) @ 21.49 Mb/s (hvfxsd1/bi) [audio+video] ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
RE: Failing to download msg
I think it is the same for everyone, there were comments on here about it a month or so ago and I notice that several bugs have been raised on the github issues tracker relating to it. The developer has left them as closed/invalid (he/she has set the system to automatically close all issues logged but they re-open those that they accept are bugs) so presumably does not see it as an issue. > -Original Message- > From: get_iplayer On Behalf Of > fred.d > Sent: 26 April 2021 19:02 > To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > Subject: Failing to download msg > > I've noticed an increase over the past few months in getting the failed to > download messages see sample after this message, which is the last error > then success. > > Initially before Christmas it was every so often. Jan and Feb it moved to > repeat once or twice on most of the downloads with a few not an issue but > all download OK. In the last couple of months it's been every file fail message > twice then downloads OK. Today I had a couple with 5 fails then downloads > OK. > > I appreciate that the program says ignore the message if it downloads and > my downloads are successful... > > However I was wondering if anyone else is getting the same level of > response as I am and if so, does anyone actually know why the frequency > might be increasing. > > Asking partly because I just like to know these sorts of things but also partly > because if it's something to do with my setup I'd like to get it back to > "normal". > > I haven't changed the config options for about 2 years so I'm presuming it's > more likely changes at the remote end. I could speculate but I'm wondering if > anyone knows. > > Ta. > > -- > > ERROR: Failed to download URL (3/3): > https://c1b1bteaips.sp.bidi.live.bbc.co.uk/vod-hls- > uk/usp/auth/vod/piff_abr_full_sd/dcfde3-p07kvctj/vf_p07kvctj_a > 8cac489-bdda-483f-ae0d- > 27d3d7ddf42b.ism/pc_hd_abr_v2_hls_master.m3u8?at=Ww262mGZ7a1dc6a > 235e548cffcab8cc34065bf98ee8f60005c0e34bc71240 > ERROR: Response: 403 Forbidden > ERROR: Access to this resource was blocked by the BBC > ERROR: Ignore this error if programme download is successful > INFO: Downloading tv: 'Silent Witness: Series 5 - 06. Faith, Part 2 > (p032kkx2) [original]' > INFO: Downloaded: 658.19 MB (00:49:54) @ 21.49 Mb/s (hvfxsd1/bi) > [audio+video] > > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Failing to download msg
The message explicitly says to ignore it if the program is downloaded successfully. If for some reason you are closely monitoring the output of GiP and it's getting in the way, you can exclude the CDN that is generating the errors: get_iplayer --exclude-supplier bidi ... ... which doesn't prompt the error in my very basic testing. You can also add that to your preferences or presets, although the syntax for doing that easily escapes me at the moment. Regards, James Scholes On 26/04/2021 at 1:15 pm, Chris Brady wrote: > Yes - I get these all of the time. CJB > > On 26/04/2021, fred.d wrote: >> I've noticed an increase over the past few months in getting the failed >> to download messages see sample after this message, which is the last >> error then success. >> >> Initially before Christmas it was every so often. Jan and Feb it moved >> to repeat once or twice on most of the downloads with a few not an issue >> but all download OK. In the last couple of months it's been every file >> fail message twice then downloads OK. Today I had a couple with 5 fails >> then downloads OK. >> >> I appreciate that the program says ignore the message if it downloads >> and my downloads are successful... >> >> However I was wondering if anyone else is getting the same level of >> response as I am and if so, does anyone actually know why the frequency >> might be increasing. >> >> Asking partly because I just like to know these sorts of things but also >> partly because if it's something to do with my setup I'd like to get it >> back to "normal". >> >> I haven't changed the config options for about 2 years so I'm presuming >> it's more likely changes at the remote end. I could speculate but I'm >> wondering if anyone knows. >> >> Ta. >> >> -- >> >> ERROR: Failed to download URL (3/3): >> https://c1b1bteaips.sp.bidi.live.bbc.co.uk/vod-hls-uk/usp/auth/vod/piff_abr_full_sd/dcfde3-p07kvctj/vf_p07kvctj_a >> 8cac489-bdda-483f-ae0d-27d3d7ddf42b.ism/pc_hd_abr_v2_hls_master.m3u8?at=Ww262mGZ7a1dc6a235e548cffcab8cc34065bf98ee8f60005c0e34bc71240 >> ERROR: Response: 403 Forbidden >> ERROR: Access to this resource was blocked by the BBC >> ERROR: Ignore this error if programme download is successful >> INFO: Downloading tv: 'Silent Witness: Series 5 - 06. Faith, Part 2 >> (p032kkx2) [original]' >> INFO: Downloaded: 658.19 MB (00:49:54) @ 21.49 Mb/s (hvfxsd1/bi) >> [audio+video] >> >> >> ___ >> get_iplayer mailing list >> get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org >> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer >> > > ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Failing to download msg
Yes - I get these all of the time. CJB On 26/04/2021, fred.d wrote: > I've noticed an increase over the past few months in getting the failed > to download messages see sample after this message, which is the last > error then success. > > Initially before Christmas it was every so often. Jan and Feb it moved > to repeat once or twice on most of the downloads with a few not an issue > but all download OK. In the last couple of months it's been every file > fail message twice then downloads OK. Today I had a couple with 5 fails > then downloads OK. > > I appreciate that the program says ignore the message if it downloads > and my downloads are successful... > > However I was wondering if anyone else is getting the same level of > response as I am and if so, does anyone actually know why the frequency > might be increasing. > > Asking partly because I just like to know these sorts of things but also > partly because if it's something to do with my setup I'd like to get it > back to "normal". > > I haven't changed the config options for about 2 years so I'm presuming > it's more likely changes at the remote end. I could speculate but I'm > wondering if anyone knows. > > Ta. > > -- > > ERROR: Failed to download URL (3/3): > https://c1b1bteaips.sp.bidi.live.bbc.co.uk/vod-hls-uk/usp/auth/vod/piff_abr_full_sd/dcfde3-p07kvctj/vf_p07kvctj_a > 8cac489-bdda-483f-ae0d-27d3d7ddf42b.ism/pc_hd_abr_v2_hls_master.m3u8?at=Ww262mGZ7a1dc6a235e548cffcab8cc34065bf98ee8f60005c0e34bc71240 > ERROR: Response: 403 Forbidden > ERROR: Access to this resource was blocked by the BBC > ERROR: Ignore this error if programme download is successful > INFO: Downloading tv: 'Silent Witness: Series 5 - 06. Faith, Part 2 > (p032kkx2) [original]' > INFO: Downloaded: 658.19 MB (00:49:54) @ 21.49 Mb/s (hvfxsd1/bi) > [audio+video] > > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > -- MSc. (O.R.); BSc. (Ind Maths); Dip. Ed. (F.E.); Cert Mgt (O.U.) Health & Safety Rep. - Unite (MSF/AMICUS) + Brit. Airways Freelance Investigative Journalist - re: Rogue Leasehold / Managing / Letting / Estate Agents ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Failing to download msg
> am I right in assuming that bidi refers to bi-directional? No. "BIDI is the BBC’s own content distribution platform and is responsible for delivering media directly to the BBC end users in the UK."[1] [1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/entries/8c6c2414-df7a-4ad7-bd2e-dbe481da3633 Regards, James Scholes On 26/04/2021 at 3:58 pm, George Muter wrote: > I've just tried this out on a couple of Fawlty Towers episodes currently > available. The first with the exclude-supplier bidi command and the second > without it. What surprised me was that the first, which did exclude the 403 > errors, downloaded at 170mb/s whilst the second without the bidi command > downloaded at 25 mb/s for the same quality video. I'm just a simple user but > am I right in assuming that bidi refers to bi-directional? In which case is > something being lost in the download - reliability?? > > Regards > > George Muter > > -Original Message- > From: get_iplayer On Behalf Of > James Scholes > Sent: 26 April 2021 20:12 > To: get_iplayer-request > Subject: Re: Failing to download msg > > The message explicitly says to ignore it if the program is downloaded > successfully. If for some reason you are closely monitoring the output of > GiP and it's getting in the way, you can exclude the CDN that is generating > the errors: > > get_iplayer --exclude-supplier bidi ... > > ... which doesn't prompt the error in my very basic testing. You can also > add that to your preferences or presets, although the syntax for doing that > easily escapes me at the moment. > > Regards, > > James Scholes > > On 26/04/2021 at 1:15 pm, Chris Brady wrote: >> Yes - I get these all of the time. CJB >> >> On 26/04/2021, fred.d wrote: >>> I've noticed an increase over the past few months in getting the >>> failed to download messages see sample after this message, which is >>> the last error then success. >>> >>> Initially before Christmas it was every so often. Jan and Feb it >>> moved to repeat once or twice on most of the downloads with a few not >>> an issue but all download OK. In the last couple of months it's been >>> every file fail message twice then downloads OK. Today I had a couple >>> with 5 fails then downloads OK. >>> >>> I appreciate that the program says ignore the message if it downloads >>> and my downloads are successful... >>> >>> However I was wondering if anyone else is getting the same level of >>> response as I am and if so, does anyone actually know why the >>> frequency might be increasing. >>> >>> Asking partly because I just like to know these sorts of things but >>> also partly because if it's something to do with my setup I'd like to >>> get it back to "normal". >>> >>> I haven't changed the config options for about 2 years so I'm >>> presuming it's more likely changes at the remote end. I could >>> speculate but I'm wondering if anyone knows. >>> >>> Ta. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ERROR: Failed to download URL (3/3): >>> https://c1b1bteaips.sp.bidi.live.bbc.co.uk/vod-hls-uk/usp/auth/vod/pi >>> ff_abr_full_sd/dcfde3-p07kvctj/vf_p07kvctj_a >>> 8cac489-bdda-483f-ae0d-27d3d7ddf42b.ism/pc_hd_abr_v2_hls_master.m3u8? >>> at=Ww262mGZ7a1dc6a235e548cffcab8cc34065bf98ee8f60005c0e34bc71240 >>> ERROR: Response: 403 Forbidden >>> ERROR: Access to this resource was blocked by the BBC >>> ERROR: Ignore this error if programme download is successful >>> INFO: Downloading tv: 'Silent Witness: Series 5 - 06. Faith, Part 2 >>> (p032kkx2) [original]' >>> INFO: Downloaded: 658.19 MB (00:49:54) @ 21.49 Mb/s (hvfxsd1/bi) >>> [audio+video] >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> get_iplayer mailing list >>> get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org >>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer >>> >> >> > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: OT: Re: Unknown unknows. was Re: Why no Formula E?
-- Chris Woods CustomMade On 2021-04-26 08:07, David Taylor wrote: On 25/04/2021 19:52, Andrew wrote: A bit behind the times are we? Pit stops haven't happened since season 4 following the introduction of the Gen2 cars. Races are 45min + 1 lap with the same car. That was a welcome improvement, but they are still stuck with too many gimmicks for me, "fan-boost", being able to drive over different bits of the track to get more energy, and so forth. Seems more like dodgem racing at times! The coverage is too variable. One race it's live from the BBC studio (in London), anther it's listed as live (on the iPlayer) but it isn't. The Extreme-E seems purer racing. https://www.extreme-e.com/ Yeah, agreed on the discontinuity of coverage, I'd prefer every round to have a full studio show. I think it's a combination of rights, scheduling and budget. At least we get everything, unlike some other countries' broadcasters. The studio shows have come from Quay House in Salford. Round 3 (Rome) on the 10th came from a new VR set. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p09d68yc/formula-e-2021-round-three-rome-uninterrupted) I personally enjoy the two Attack Modes per race rule, it adds another element of risk for the drivers - do they do a double-use and try to leapfrog to the front and hold on until the end? Do they conserve energy and wait until everyone else is struggling towards the end, then go for some overtakes? Or do they risk it in changeable weather conditions? I also like some of the tech used for the programme. The attack mode floor arrows are a small element but they're being tracked and composited through 3D in real time using what's apparently a normal TV camera. At least in 2019 (and presumably still now) it was done with the Ncam product, which uses stereo tracking cameras that can track through free space, mounted on the main camera. I played with Ncam briefly in 2019, it's clever tech. The wider variety of camera angles is cool. Like IndyCar, we get Driver's Eye (very nice) and other shots you don't normally see in F1. Extreme E also had some fabulous shots for Round 2, they have four drones I believe? They must be hexacopters or large quads with quality IS. Some of the shots they were getting were mighty impressive. Unfortunately only four rounds for XE this year, and the format felt a little tentative and dragged a bit for the first weekend. Hopefully Round 2 will come out the gates swinging when they can revert to the original format. I'm looking forward to more WRX style rallycross frantic head to heads, not every race split with three cars and big gaps between sessions (necessitated due to the Saudi Arabia sand and dust: https://dirtfish.com/off-road/extreme-e/dust-concerns-force-major-extreme-e-format-change/ ) Next Extreme E is on the 29th: https://www.extreme-e.com/en/race-calendar * this is a nice chase drone vid from a pre-season shoot if you don't mind his narration style - https://www.reddit.com/r/motorsports/comments/m82wdb/extreme_e_fpv_drone_pilot_commentates_over_shot/ ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Why no Formula E?
I suspect I caused a bit of confusion, perhaps I should have altered the subject to reflect the trangression from the original question. Don's response mentioned using the series pid and recursive option to follow a series, as I've a simple search for "click" it could be prone to picking up anything with click in the title so was interested in switching my pvr configs over. I also had "the repair shop" in my pvr and discovered the fixing britain series due to it matching, this was probably a good thing as they were also interesting to watch even if a lot of the content was the same it added some general history but that's going off topic ;) Steve On 26/04/2021 17:50, George Eycott wrote: Ah fair enough, I was just a bit thrown as to why you would need/want to exclude a load of channels when you have specified a PID, but it sounds like they are probably the defaults for your web PVR and get_iplayer has copied them to the pvr file. -Original Message- From: get_iplayer On Behalf Of Don Grunbaum Sent: 26 April 2021 17:00 To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org Subject: Re: Why no Formula E? I'm not sure that you've followed the thread fully, George. Your search will pick up "The Repair Shop" programmes in the cache, no problem. The original question (from Steve Wilson) is about picking up programmes that are not in the cache, but available on iPlayer, such as "box sets" and those broadcast through the "red button" or the iPlayer itself, like the Formula E races. Admittedly in my example only two or three of the lines are essential - pid, pidrecursive, and output (if you don't want all downloads going to the same folder). The others are put there by the "web interface" as they are my default options. I hope that's clear. Don - Original Message - From: George Eycott To: Sent: 26/04/2021 09:10:21 Subject: RE: Why no Formula E? __ __ Wow, that seems complex, mine is just: search0 The Repair Shop Works fine for me! -Original Message- From: get_iplayer On Behalf Of Don Grunbaum Sent: 26 April 2021 08:41 To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org Subject: Re: Why no Formula E? As an example, this is my file for "The Repair Shop": == == excludecategory children,primary excludechannel alba,cymru,news,s4c,cbbc,cbeebies,parliament,bbcthree,northern ireland,wales pid b08l581p modes best output V:\BBC iPlayer Recordings\The Repair Shop subtitles 1 thumb 0 type tv versionlist default pidrecursive 1 == == Obviously some of your settings will differ. I also use a .txt suffix on all my pvr files as it makes them easier to edit. ATB Don - Original Message - From: Steve Wilson To: Sent: 25/04/2021 22:20:06 Subject: Re: Why no Formula E? __ __ On 25/04/2021 13:47, Don Grunbaum wrote: I believe that only programmes that are broadcast through the "regular" channels appear in the GiP cache. To pick up others such as these and "box sets" you should use the series pid and the recursive option. HTH Don ... Would this be more reliable for other series too? For example having "search0 Click" for pvr can match other things too so I've other options and excludes. Do you have an example or link I can use to configure pvr to do this? Steve. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Failing to download msg
Also, just to add: the BBC hosts content across three content delivery networks (CDNs). One in-house (Bidi) and two third party (Akamai and Limelight). This creates redundancy and a geographical spread. Even though Bidi is the BBC's own offering, and used exclusively for UK-based users, they wouldn't want to rely on it alone. So the other two, Akamai and Limelight, also host content for UK viewers. The ability to exclude (or only include) certain suppliers within GiP downloads was, I believe, introduced to permit the fastest possible downloads. If users find that they're downloads from, say, Limelight are far slower than those from akamai or Bidi, they can block them. By default, GiP will do something to determine one to use from all three, although I'm not sure what. It could be random, it could be based on the order returned by the BBC's media selector service, or there may be a specific priority list. All that being said, there appears to be something blocking GiP from accessing Bidi. Maybe it needs authentication now, maybe it's just broken. Who knows. Either way, blocking Bidi requests should never lessen the effectiveness of GiP, because it has two other suppliers to choose from. Bidi is a relatively new effort from the BBC, and before it came along, GiP only had access to two and there was never a problem. Note: this is all supposition; I don't work and have never worked for the BBC, nor have I ever actively contributed to GiP's code. Regards, James Scholes On 26/04/2021 at 3:58 pm, George Muter wrote: > I've just tried this out on a couple of Fawlty Towers episodes currently > available. The first with the exclude-supplier bidi command and the second > without it. What surprised me was that the first, which did exclude the 403 > errors, downloaded at 170mb/s whilst the second without the bidi command > downloaded at 25 mb/s for the same quality video. I'm just a simple user but > am I right in assuming that bidi refers to bi-directional? In which case is > something being lost in the download - reliability?? > > Regards > > George Muter > > -Original Message- > From: get_iplayer On Behalf Of > James Scholes > Sent: 26 April 2021 20:12 > To: get_iplayer-request > Subject: Re: Failing to download msg > > The message explicitly says to ignore it if the program is downloaded > successfully. If for some reason you are closely monitoring the output of > GiP and it's getting in the way, you can exclude the CDN that is generating > the errors: > > get_iplayer --exclude-supplier bidi ... > > ... which doesn't prompt the error in my very basic testing. You can also > add that to your preferences or presets, although the syntax for doing that > easily escapes me at the moment. > > Regards, > > James Scholes > > On 26/04/2021 at 1:15 pm, Chris Brady wrote: >> Yes - I get these all of the time. CJB >> >> On 26/04/2021, fred.d wrote: >>> I've noticed an increase over the past few months in getting the >>> failed to download messages see sample after this message, which is >>> the last error then success. >>> >>> Initially before Christmas it was every so often. Jan and Feb it >>> moved to repeat once or twice on most of the downloads with a few not >>> an issue but all download OK. In the last couple of months it's been >>> every file fail message twice then downloads OK. Today I had a couple >>> with 5 fails then downloads OK. >>> >>> I appreciate that the program says ignore the message if it downloads >>> and my downloads are successful... >>> >>> However I was wondering if anyone else is getting the same level of >>> response as I am and if so, does anyone actually know why the >>> frequency might be increasing. >>> >>> Asking partly because I just like to know these sorts of things but >>> also partly because if it's something to do with my setup I'd like to >>> get it back to "normal". >>> >>> I haven't changed the config options for about 2 years so I'm >>> presuming it's more likely changes at the remote end. I could >>> speculate but I'm wondering if anyone knows. >>> >>> Ta. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ERROR: Failed to download URL (3/3): >>> https://c1b1bteaips.sp.bidi.live.bbc.co.uk/vod-hls-uk/usp/auth/vod/pi >>> ff_abr_full_sd/dcfde3-p07kvctj/vf_p07kvctj_a >>> 8cac489-bdda-483f-ae0d-27d3d7ddf42b.ism/pc_hd_abr_v2_hls_master.m3u8? >>> at=Ww262mGZ7a1dc6a235e548cffcab8cc34065bf98ee8f60005c0e34bc71240 >>> ERROR: Response: 403 Forbidden >>> ERROR: Access to this resource was blocked by the BBC >>> ERROR: Ignore this error if programme download is successful >>> INFO: Downloading tv: 'Silent Witness: Series 5 - 06. Faith, Part 2 >>> (p032kkx2) [original]' >>> INFO: Downloaded: 658.19 MB (00:49:54) @ 21.49 Mb/s (hvfxsd1/bi) >>> [audio+video] >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> get_iplayer mailing list >>> get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org >>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer >>> >> >> > >
