[Gimp-developer] GIMP at COMDEX
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Evening GIMPers, Gimp is going to COMDEX. I just found out that I would be able to go tonight. Now I am kinda panicing about the kind of things I should present. Here are some quick ideas, before I go to sleep. If anyone has anything in particular they think I should consider discussing, please bring it up. IF anyone has any help they would like to lend, (previous presentation notes, for example) I would greatly appericate any time you could give me. Gimp demos. Show off some of our killer features. Any ideas as to what these might be? (layers, brushes, plugins, script-fu) Tips for working with the gimp in a corporate enviroment. (examples of previous corporate help would be great). Buy a programmer to add features. Strenths of open source, weaknesses of open source. Future gimp plans (gegl, high bit depths, color management). Ok, it is late and I need to sleep for work tomorrow. Cool screenshots, example work, and anything gimp related would be great to send to me. cl0kd already sent me a screenshot of gimp 1.3.x running on macos 10.3! Thanks everyone, - -- Dan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/sy8Zad4P1+ZAZk0RAh+AAJ4/EyV5QnXMhd6Io/Qp/j2xWGHDZQCgjEZE 2WX2qc9DChtw0M7ZqCYYZ7w= =oMbv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP at COMDEX
Hi Daniel, Daniel Rogers wrote: Gimp demos. Show off some of our killer features. Any ideas as to what these might be? (layers, brushes, plugins, script-fu) He might not forgive me for this, but here's jimmac's list of user visible changes in 2.0 when compared to 1.2: http://jimmac.musichall.cz/stuff/private/gimp-2/html/index.xhtml The biggies are of course docks, the path tool, the text tool, the themability (I like showing off the small interface - do we have a big chunky interface too?), the grid, fullscreen mode, and tool contexts. There are also the colour pickers for the levels tool (amazingly useful) and GAP. But Jakub's the man to talk to about that stuff... If you're doing a general gimp demo, then the stuff that impresses people is the clone tool, selections/masks, channel layer manipulations. A good thing to do is search through your collection for a few shitty photos that you are fairly certain can be hugely improved with one technique, and then do that. Here, I'm thinking of Jakub's tutorial in Berlin where he had, for example, one image with a contre-jour, one image with a red cast at sunset, another image with the tourist walking across the wall, another with the bright red plane, and no other red in the picture, another with a good clear red-eye, etc. Tips for working with the gimp in a corporate enviroment. (examples of previous corporate help would be great). Buy a programmer to add features. Strenths of open source, weaknesses of open source. This kind of philosophical stuff is interesting, but the FSF and OSI have lots of stuff on this. But getting someone to buy a programmer for a year or two would rock. Future gimp plans (gegl, high bit depths, color management). Personally, I'd tend to avoid future plans until there's something to present. If someone asks about CMYK, pre-press, color profiles, etc then by all means go into the details, but I wouldn't include it in a presentation. Good luck in Vegas, and don't lose too much money :) Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary, Lyon, France E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Re: [Gimp-web] developer.gimp.org now in CVS
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 00:31, Sven Neumann wrote: The site is build using DocBook XML. Adding content should be relatively straight-forward. I will add a README to CVS that explains how things work in more detail. First I need to write it though. So if you want to help with the site, please let me know. As I have mentioned earlier I would like to help maintaining http://developer.gimp.org. Sincerely, ./Brix -- Henrik Brix Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [OpenOSX Sales sales@OpenOSX.com] Fwd: Gimp 1.3.22 on Mac OS 10.3.1
Hi, forwarding this to the list... ---BeginMessage--- Hello, Sorry to disturb you. I have attempted sending a message several times to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and I am subscribed but it is not appearing on the list. I cannot find an adminstrator address, so I am contacting you. I fear that a SPAM filter maybe rejecting the message, perhaps because of my last name. Begin forwarded message: From: OpenOSX Sales [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: November 12, 2003 4:44:19 PM MST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Gimp 1.3.22 on Mac OS 10.3.1 Greetings all, I am attempting to build Gimp 1.3.22 here on Mac OS X 10.3.1 (darwin 7.0) with gcc 3.3 and all goes well until what appears to be the final linking stages at which point I get several undefined symbols. I grep'ed around and the symbols appear to be defined in the archives and objects. Any hints or help would be greatly appreciated. Here is the output: Making all in pdb make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'. /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc -g -O2 -Wall -o gimp-1.3 -u gimp_container_filter -u gimp_xml_parser_new -u gimp_drawable_stroke_vectors app_procs.o main.o batch.o errors.o libgimp_glue.o config/libappconfig.a gui/libappgui.a display/libappdisplay.a tools/libapptools.a widgets/libappwidgets.a core/libappcore.a pdb/libapppdb.a paint/libapppaint.a xcf/libappxcf.a text/libapptext.a vectors/libappvectors.a file/libappfile.a plug-in/libappplug-in.a paint-funcs/libapppaint-funcs.a composite/libappcomposite.a base/libappbase.a ../libgimpcolor/libgimpcolor-1.3.la ../libgimpmath/libgimpmath-1.3.la ../libgimpbase/libgimpbase-1.3.la ../libgimpmodule/libgimpmodule-1.3.la ../libgimpwidgets/libgimpwidgets-1.3.la -L/usr/local/lib -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lpangox-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lintl -liconv -L/usr/local/lib -lart_lgpl_2 -L/usr/local/lib -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lintl -liconv -L/usr/local/lib -lfontconfig -L/usr/local/lib -lfreetype -lz -lintl ../regexrepl/libregex.a gcc -g -O2 -Wall -o .libs/gimp-1.3 -u gimp_container_filter -u gimp_xml_parser_new -u gimp_drawable_stroke_vectors app_procs.o main.o batch.o errors.o libgimp_glue.o config/libappconfig.a gui/libappgui.a display/libappdisplay.a tools/libapptools.a widgets/libappwidgets.a core/libappcore.a pdb/libapppdb.a paint/libapppaint.a xcf/libappxcf.a text/libapptext.a vectors/libappvectors.a file/libappfile.a plug-in/libappplug-in.a paint-funcs/libapppaint-funcs.a composite/libappcomposite.a base/libappbase.a ../libgimpcolor/.libs/libgimpcolor-1.3.dylib -L/usr/local/lib ../libgimpmath/.libs/libgimpmath-1.3.dylib ../libgimpbase/.libs/libgimpbase-1.3.dylib ../libgimpmodule/.libs/libgimpmodule-1.3.dylib /usr/src/gimp/gimp-1.3.22/libgimpbase/.libs/libgimpbase-1.3.dylib ../libgimpwidgets/.libs/libgimpwidgets-1.3.dylib /usr/src/gimp/gimp-1.3.22/libgimpcolor/.libs/libgimpcolor-1.3.dylib /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.dylib /usr/local/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.dylib /usr/local/lib/libatk-1.0.dylib /usr/local/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.dylib /usr/local/lib/libpangox-1.0.dylib /usr/local/lib/libart_lgpl_2.dylib -lm /usr/local/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.dylib /usr/local/lib/libpango-1.0.dylib /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.dylib /usr/local/lib/libgmodule-2.0.dylib /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.dylib /usr/local/lib/libfontconfig.dylib /usr/local/lib/libexpat.dylib /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.dylib -lz /usr/local/lib/libintl.dylib /usr/lib/libiconv.dylib -lc ../regexrepl/libregex.a ld: warning multiple definitions of symbol _locale_charset /usr/lib/libiconv.dylib(localcharset.o) definition of _locale_charset /usr/local/lib/libintl.dylib(localcharset.o) definition of _locale_charset ld: warning suggest use of -bind_at_load, as lazy binding may result in errors or different symbols being used symbol _locale_charset used from dynamic library /usr/lib/libiconv.dylib(localcharset.o) not from earlier dynamic library /usr/local/lib/libintl.2.dylib(localcharset.o) ld: Undefined symbols: gimp_container_filter gimp_xml_parser_new gimp_drawable_stroke_vectors _gimp_xml_parser_free _gimp_xml_parser_new _gimp_xml_parser_parse_file _gimp_container_get_filtered_name_array make[3]: *** [gimp-1.3] Error 1 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make: *** [all] Error 2 Thanks, Jeshua Lacock __ Programmer/OwnerPhone: 760.935.4736 http://OpenOSX.com Fax:760.935.4845 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ ---End Message--- ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Re: Fwd: Gimp 1.3.22 on Mac OS 10.3.1
Hi, OpenOSX Sales [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am attempting to build Gimp 1.3.22 here on Mac OS X 10.3.1 (darwin 7.0) with gcc 3.3 and all goes well until what appears to be the final linking stages at which point I get several undefined symbols. ld: Undefined symbols: gimp_container_filter gimp_xml_parser_new gimp_drawable_stroke_vectors _gimp_xml_parser_free _gimp_xml_parser_new _gimp_xml_parser_parse_file _gimp_container_get_filtered_name_array As we found out lately, it seems that MacOS X is doing the same as Windows does and prefixes symbols with an underscore. So in order to build GIMP you will need to edit app/Makefile and set symprefix to _ just like it is done for OS_WIN32 already. Please report back if this fixes your problem so that we can put this solution into CVS. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP at COMDEX
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 12:48, David Neary wrote: He might not forgive me for this, but here's jimmac's list of user visible changes in 2.0 when compared to 1.2: http://jimmac.musichall.cz/stuff/private/gimp-2/html/index.xhtml Eek! Looks like I need to bring it up to date and finish it. Bad, bad Dave ;) Lot of stuff changed in the meantime. cheers -- Jakub Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP at COMDEX
Hi, Jakub Steiner wrote: On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 12:48, David Neary wrote: http://jimmac.musichall.cz/stuff/private/gimp-2/html/index.xhtml Eek! Looks like I need to bring it up to date and finish it. Bad, bad Dave ;) Lot of stuff changed in the meantime. :) I thought that might be motivational for you... Thanks for writing it, by the way. Very useful document. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary, Lyon, France E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP at COMDEX
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 08:13, Daniel Rogers wrote: cl0kd already sent me a screenshot of gimp 1.3.x running on macos 10.3! One of the cool thing about The GIMP is that it is cross-platform. The exact same source code can be built on a variety of platforms. I often meet people who think The GIMP is a GNU/Linux-only thing - maybe it is worth mentioning that it runs on a large number of platforms? Sincerely, ./Brix PS: Have a nice trip to Vegas, Daniel :) -- Henrik Brix Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP at COMDEX
Hi, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 08:13, Daniel Rogers wrote: cl0kd already sent me a screenshot of gimp 1.3.x running on macos 10.3! One of the cool thing about The GIMP is that it is cross-platform. The exact same source code can be built on a variety of platforms. I often meet people who think The GIMP is a GNU/Linux-only thing - maybe it is worth mentioning that it runs on a large number of platforms? It is true that it's less stable on Win32 though... partially because of a shortage of people building it from source on that platform, yielding a smaller pool of potential bug-fixers. I regularly crash the GIMP on Win32... and crashes aren't nice for demos. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary, Lyon, France E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
