Re: [Gimp-developer] distributing gimp with another program

2010-11-21 Thread Daniel Hornung
On Sunday 21 November 2010 08:48:47 ash oakenfold wrote: Hi all, I'm using gimp for some image post-processing (via script-fu and the command line) and I'd like to include it in the distribution of my Flash application. I read the GPL and it says: *Activities other than copying,

Re: [Gimp-developer] distributing gimp with another program

2010-11-21 Thread Graeme Gill
Daniel Hornung wrote: I am not a lawyer but I think that distributing GIMP along with other non-free programs should be ok if those other programs just use it through the command line. Of course you will still have to distribute GIMP under the GPL, which Hmm. What's the command line got to do

Re: [Gimp-developer] distributing gimp with another program

2010-11-21 Thread Ofnuts
On 11/21/2010 02:03 PM, Graeme Gill wrote: If there is functional dependence, then the mere aggregation on the same media escape clause wouldn't seem to apply. Then everything written for Linux would have to be GPL because it has functional dependence on GPL code?

Re: [Gimp-developer] distributing gimp with another program

2010-11-21 Thread Christopher Curtis
Let me try to clarify one thing: On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Christopher Curtis ccurt...@gmail.com wrote: terms of the GPL.  Calling GIMP plugins directly gets fuzzier.  If they are scripts, it can be done.  If they are compiled code it is unclear. I should have said 'If they are

Re: [Gimp-developer] distributing gimp with another program

2010-11-21 Thread saulgoode
Quoting ash oakenfold conceptual.iner...@gmail.com: I'm using gimp for some image post-processing (via script-fu and the command line) and I'd like to include it in the distribution of my Flash application. : : So, just to be clear, can I distribute gimp and use it to make a batch call

Re: [Gimp-developer] servers consolidation

2010-11-21 Thread Sven Neumann
On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 22:09 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: It appears that the plan for servers consolidation was never realized. And it looks like this is one of the problems behind some ongoing issues with availability of our sites. That impression is not entirely correct. While the FTP

Re: [Gimp-developer] distributing gimp with another program

2010-11-21 Thread Graeme Gill
Christopher Curtis wrote: The command line delineates program boundaries. If your application makes a call to another program, then your application and the application being called are separate entities. As they are separate entities, one is not derived from the other. And I didn't say

Re: [Gimp-developer] distributing gimp with another program

2010-11-21 Thread Graeme Gill
Ofnuts wrote: Then everything written for Linux would have to be GPL because it has functional dependence on GPL code? IMI, only if it is shipped as a package, and doesn't fall into the Linux exception clause. (The Linux exception clause draws a line between kernel and user processes.) Graeme

Re: [Gimp-developer] distributing gimp with another program

2010-11-21 Thread Christopher Curtis
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Graeme Gill grae...@argyllcms.com wrote: What counts is dependence. I think all of your arguments are wrong, but on this point you may be right. I didn't realize that the GIMP is GPLv3 now, which is a very different license. GPLv3 is very fuzzy about linking.

Re: [Gimp-developer] distributing gimp with another program

2010-11-21 Thread ash oakenfold
Hi, Thx for all the feedback! My application can function without gimp. I only use gimp to stitch together and save a larger image as an optional last step. I think I'll drop gimp and handle it myself, so I can have a single package for distribution - in addition to open sourcing the whole