Re: [Gimp-developer] Refactoring code from GPL to LGPL
On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 07:19:20PM -0400, Christopher Curtis wrote: > Manish Singh wrote: > > >snipped out: the fact that clueless Robin completely missed the point that > >there was plenty of refactoring done into GPL libraries, quite independent > >of the PDB infastructure. > [...] > >misinformation about the GIMP project. He completely deserves to be called > >on his lack of understanding and knowledge, and his complete inexperience > >with real software development. > > Hmm ... seeing as most decisions seem to be made on IRC, patches are > only accepted if they are attached to bugs in the BTS, and evidently > it's some great sin to ask a question here, what exactly IS the purpose > of this mailing list? > > Or is Robin just special? I would imagine that if there are any > archives of this mailing list that people can search that the number of > flagrantly ignorant questions would go down. Of course, if the list > archives convery no knowledge except 'ask not lest ye don asbestos and > return none the wiser' that the archives are better off nonexistant. Robin *is* a special idiot. He is Mr. Cinepaint, which is heavily based on the film branch of gimp, from the 1.0 days. For someone who has supposedly been working with the filmgimp codebase for so long, he displays a pretty major lack of understanding of how the code works, and how free software licensing works. He has continually spread lies and misinformation about the GIMP project, in some strange attempt to promote his own project. I suspect it's trying to make a smokescreen to cover up his obvious technical inadequacies and inexperience. If a newbie had asked the same question he did, it would've been fine, and this is the appropriate forum. But Robin is not a newbie: he claims to have been working on the filmgimp code for years. On top of that, he has been badmouthing the GIMP project for years, with no basis, so I'm going to call him on his idiocy. -Yosh ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Refactoring code from GPL to LGPL
Manish Singh wrote: snipped out: the fact that clueless Robin completely missed the point that there was plenty of refactoring done into GPL libraries, quite independent of the PDB infastructure. [...] misinformation about the GIMP project. He completely deserves to be called on his lack of understanding and knowledge, and his complete inexperience with real software development. Hmm ... seeing as most decisions seem to be made on IRC, patches are only accepted if they are attached to bugs in the BTS, and evidently it's some great sin to ask a question here, what exactly IS the purpose of this mailing list? Or is Robin just special? I would imagine that if there are any archives of this mailing list that people can search that the number of flagrantly ignorant questions would go down. Of course, if the list archives convery no knowledge except 'ask not lest ye don asbestos and return none the wiser' that the archives are better off nonexistant. Chris ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Refactoring code from GPL to LGPL
On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 09:11:49PM +0200, David Neary wrote: > Hi, > > Manish Singh wrote: > > > But it's pretty > > clear that you never bother to do any research before posting. > > > > > You must > > have some weird sort of logic goes on in your head that made you conflate > > these things. > > > > But your postings leave the impression that you do not understand > > it. > > > > Then again, this disjoint thinking is probably one of the reasons there > > hasn't been much progress on your project. > > Was there any reason to be this unpleasant, yosh? This thread was > long finished, and you certainly didn't contribute anything > meaningful to it - wouldn't it have been easier to say nothing > than be an asshole? I *did* contribute something meaningful, which you seem to have conveniently snipped out: the fact that clueless Robin completely missed the point that there was plenty of refactoring done into GPL libraries, quite independent of the PDB infastructure. The reason to be so harsh is that Robin keeps on spreading his lies and misinformation about the GIMP project. He completely deserves to be called on his lack of understanding and knowledge, and his complete inexperience with real software development. Dave, ask yourself why you replied to this. The thread was long finished, and *you* certainly didn't contribute anything meaningful to it. And if you must reply to this, don't clutter the list with it further. -Yosh ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] None
Hi, Sven Neumann wrote: > "William Skaggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I think that this DoG plug-in, and also the > > Thin Line plug-in from the registry > > (http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=2128) produce results that most > > users would be happier with. > > IIRC Dave did a change to the edge plug-in somewhen in the 1.3.x > development cycle that incorporated code from the thinline > plug-in. Doesn't that mean that it can produce similar results? Yup. thinline used 3x3 convolution kernels - a LoG is obviously a larger (although decomposable) covolution; it could be done as a script-fu, since we have both a L plug-in and a G plug-in already :) > Also I remember that the plan was to move all edge algorithms into > edge.c in order to obsolete the other plug-ins in the distribution. > That tasks has probably not been finished before 2.0. Might be a good > time to do that now. edge.c and sobel.c already redundancise each other. the default edge algorithm in edge.c is Sobel, and the only additions are the ability to use only vertical or horizontal components, and the fact that it affects the alpha channel. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary, Lyon, France E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Refactoring code from GPL to LGPL
Hi, Manish Singh wrote: > But it's pretty > clear that you never bother to do any research before posting. > You must > have some weird sort of logic goes on in your head that made you conflate > these things. > But your postings leave the impression that you do not understand > it. > > Then again, this disjoint thinking is probably one of the reasons there > hasn't been much progress on your project. Was there any reason to be this unpleasant, yosh? This thread was long finished, and you certainly didn't contribute anything meaningful to it - wouldn't it have been easier to say nothing than be an asshole? Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary, Lyon, France E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer