[Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.0 translations

2004-07-04 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

I just wanted to let you know that I plan to do another GIMP 2.0
release in about two weeks. There are only a few minor bug-fixes so
far but the main reason for doing a 2.0.3 release is that I'd like to
give translators a chance to finish their translations in the gimp-2-0
branch.

Soon after the 2.0.3 release is out, the HEAD branch should have
settled enough for you to start updating your translations for the
upcoming 2.2 release but I will notify you about that when the time
has come.


Thanks a lot for your work on GIMP and GNOME i18n,
Sven
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[Gimp-developer] Re: c++ with plugin-template

2004-07-04 Thread Christoph Lutz
Hello,
thank you all for your hints! Now, I am reading the 
autoconf-documentation and I'm very impressed... It's a great tool :-)

Christoph
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[Gimp-developer] Read/write plugin

2004-07-04 Thread Soren Hauberg
Hi everybody
This is my first post to this list, so please be gentle :-)
I'm a student of computer science at the University of Copenhagen (DIKU) 
working mostly with image processing. At DIKU we have a rather old image 
C library and hence quite a bit images stored in the image format used 
in this library.
I'd like to be able to read and write this kind of images in gimp, but 
how do I get started?
I guess I have to write a plugin but the docs a rather outdated (at 
least the ones I can find). Any hints on how to get started would be 
appreciated.

Regards,
Søren
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Read/write plugin

2004-07-04 Thread David Neary
Hi Soren,

Soren Hauberg wrote:
 I'd like to be able to read and write this kind of images in gimp, but 
 how do I get started?

I did a presentation on writing plug-ins in GUADEC - *very* basic
but there is a sample plug-in included. The paper is online at
http://dneary.free.fr/gimp

 I guess I have to write a plugin but the docs a rather outdated (at 
 least the ones I can find). Any hints on how to get started would be 
 appreciated.

Your best bet, once you know the basics of a plug-in, is to pick
an existing file plug-in that does a simple format. The one I
usually reccommend is pnm - in the GIMP sources, this is in
plug-ins/common/pnm.c. This is good because it shows the basics
of saving and writing an image without having the overhead of
using a 3rd party library, or having file format overhead
involved.

Cheers,
Dave.

-- 
David Neary,
Lyon, France
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[Gimp-developer] status of gimp-help-2

2004-07-04 Thread Roman Joost
After I gave a little status of the gimp user manual at GimpCon, i'll
want to do this for the others subscribed to the mailinglists as well.

What is written so far
-

  I created a little python script, which can be found in the gimp-help-2
  module under docs. It compares the help ids[1] in the header file with
  our help ids, found in the gimp-help.xml file for each language.
  Therefore, following content is written approx.:

  French: 77% done
  German: 38% done
  English: 80% done
  Swedish: 9% done

  The most of the French and English content was written by our french
  writers, which are Julien Hardelin, Cédric Gémy, Raymond Ostertag and
  Sébastien Barre. The status don't include plugins or any additional
  content, like introductions.

Current issues and problems
---

Communication: we need a new mailinglist:

Well, the first thing i added to my list of issues was a
mailinglist, which is now available for everyone. Subscribe to:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

or use the subscription page at:

https://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs

Thanks to yosh, sven and daniel egger to get the mailinglist
working. The archives are currently not working, so please be
patient. The server will get an upgrade and the archives will be
back soon.

Well, I hope that the communication with the new mailinglist will
encourage writers to communication their ideas and improvements
more than sending mails to everyone. The lack of communication is
the problem in every softwareproject, so please use the
mailinglist. Also, communciation between eachother prevents us
from inconsistencies in our documentation.

User who are testing and using our documentation are encouraged
as well to give us opinions and feedback about the manual. What
should be improved, what is not in the right place?

Lack of writers: we need an easier way to contribute:

I was thinking about an XML-Wiki Roundtrip. People can write
the docs on a wiki and we're able to fetch the docs from the
wiki a put them nicely in shape. I tested the following
solutions, but the lack of time prevented me from writing up
my opinions.

1. DocBook Wiki[2] is a wiki for editing the content and is able
to display the Docbook online. It is possible to export the
content into other things like XML, HTML, PDF and much more. The
installation of this thingy is a bit cumbersome - I didn't get
it working with our manual. I gave up after a while messing
around with php and C++ code.  

2. Another idea was a ReST[3] to Docbook XML roundtrip. I found
some alpha code which let us generate Docbook XML from a ReST
document and the other way around could do the MoinMoin Wiki. I
found a restructured text parser for the Wiki at [4], but didn't
tested it yet.

3. The third and last idea gave me Jimmac and TigerT at the
GimpCon. The Monodoc browser [5] display's on the one hand the
help itself, but let the people edit marked paragraphs and
therefore contribute to the project. I found this way the most
pleasant way to give contributors a chance to write
documentation. Users don't need to be connected to a server all
the time while writing documentation and can decide for
themselves, when they want to contribute.
   
Conclusion: Tools are nice, but we decided in short-term not to
concentrate to much on new tools, but more in trying more
contributors on the project. Kenneth Wimer from Novell/SuSE
offered help and I want to try to ask the gnome docwriters if
some of them want to join us. During the GUADEC, i talked to
Eugene O'Connor and other people from SUN about the Javahelp and
GNOME documentation. They provided me with some tips for a
better document structure and information about JavaHelp.

technical difficulties:

Well, we have some minor technical difficulties to generate
other formats than HTML. I managed to get some HTMLHelp out of
the XML sources working, but unfortunately without images. I run
into the same problem with the images, when I try to generate
a PDF/LaTeX document out of the XML sources. I'll invest some
more time into this, to get it working. I'm affraid, that some
of the pages are not well-formed, but i need to investigate this
first.

Screenshots:

The problem is, that GIMP's UI changes faster than we can
provide screenshots. My idea was an application which records
mouse movements and play's them afterwards to create screenshots
only once and then 

[Gimp-developer] Re: status of gimp-help-2

2004-07-04 Thread GSR - FR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-07-04 at 2356.50 +0200):
 The problem is, that GIMP's UI changes faster than we can
 provide screenshots. My idea was an application which records
 mouse movements and play's them afterwards to create screenshots
 only once and then automatically. This idea has some major
 problem when it comes to different positioning of menus and
 other things, that i discarded the idea. Well, the guys from Sun
 gave said, that we should provide screenshots only when they are
 *really* necessary. Another problem with screenshots are the
 dependencies to languages. I propose, that we shouldn't make
 screenshots for every minor function or dialog, but describe the
 functions or dialogs better.

Dunno how, but K-3D has something like what you talk about or better,
interactive tutorials. http://k3d.sourceforge.net/

GSR
 
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Read/write plugin

2004-07-04 Thread Jeff Trefftzs
On Sun, 2004-07-04 at 11:23, Soren Hauberg wrote:
 Hi everybody
 This is my first post to this list, so please be gentle :-)
 I'm a student of computer science at the University of Copenhagen (DIKU) 
 working mostly with image processing. At DIKU we have a rather old image 
 C library and hence quite a bit images stored in the image format used 
 in this library.
 I'd like to be able to read and write this kind of images in gimp, but 
 how do I get started?

You didn't say what format the C library uses:  perhaps it's one of the
many for which conversion programs already exist.  If you are running on
a *nix system (Unix, Linux, BSD, Solaris ...) the portable bitmap
package may already have a conversion program.  And then there's always
ImageMagick, which also can convert to and from innumerable image
formats.

If the issue is more one of learning how to write a Gimp plug-in, other
messages in this thread will probably be of more help.

HTH,

-- 
Jeff


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