[Gimp-developer] Re: [Gimp-user] use of the Space key
Sven Neumann writes: > I consider to change what GIMP uses the Space key for and would like > to get some user feedback on this. Currently, pressing the Space key > temporarily switches to the move tool. Spacebar to switch temporarily to move is awfully useful. I didn't know about it until this discussion, but I've often wanted something like that -- I'm forever switching between move and something else, for instance when I'm creating lots of different text layers and need to position each one. If you change spacebar to pan, I hope you'll consider investing some other key with this "temporary move tool" meaning. Now that I've known about it for a couple days I'm already sorry to have to give it up! Do a lot of gimp users not have a middle mouse button? Maybe tablet users who don't want to put down the stylus and switch to a mouse? (That would be understandable.) Or is this just because ... that other program does it that way, and its users are used to it? ...Akkana ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] who can tell me the type of color quantization algorithm in GIMP?
YG Wang wrote: The color quantization in GIMP is high-quality. Can you tell me which algorithm it is? Thanks a lot! It resembles a common axis-aligned box-cut (I tried many, many alternatives and just kept coming back to an axis-aligned box-cut for simplicity). It has various changes over a median box cut though, in how it chooses which box to cut and then how it actually cuts it. For example the position of the cut is carefully considered, the axis of the cut is very carefully considered, and (most unusually I suspect) it may choose to perform multiple even cuts of the same box along the an axis to keep the error even across the axes of the resulting boxes. Finally (and quite significantly, but not a property of the algorithm as such) the quantization occurs in L*a*b* space instead of the common RGB-alike. --Adam -- Adam D. Moss - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Idea for new plugin
On Tue, 24 May 2005, Chin2 wrote: > Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 12:34:42 +0530 > From: Chin2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu > Subject: [Gimp-developer] Idea for new plugin > > hi everone around > i have an idea for a new plugin for gimp. i may not be able explain it very > well. but for those who wuold understand it would be nice.. > http://www.freewebs.com/chin2online/plug1.jpg The picture explains it well enough. When people refer to the selection I would like to make it clear that you are distorting the image (contents of the selection) rather than the selection (the shape of the selection), but I understand it can be difficult to explain these things clearly. This is essentially a distortion and hasn't much to do with the selection. Such an effect can be achieved by creating an Elliptical selection and then using the Perspective tool to invert and distort or rotate the selection as desired. It should be possible to automate the process using a script or a plug-in if a programmer was interested enough to do it. Sincerely Alan Horkan Inkscape http://inkscape.org Abiword http://www.abisource.com Dia http://gnome.org/projects/dia/ Open Clip Art http://OpenClipArt.org Alan's Diary http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/ ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] use of the Space key
> The genius behind the choice of space key is that it can > easily be hit (on all keyboard layouts!) without looking > away from the screen... > exactly, and this is(imho, of course) most useful for panning Jakub Friedl ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] use of the Space key
Jakub Friedl (lists) wrote: it is a good idea. the descibed behaviour is really handy when editing zoomed in image. however i use the current space function too. would it be possible to use a different key for the temporary move tool? The genius behind the choice of space key is that it can easily be hit (on all keyboard layouts!) without looking away from the screen... --adam ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] use of the Space key
On 5/23/05, Laxminarayan Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > An entire new idea of keystrokes : for the keyboard shortcuts: if you > press a key the normal way ,it will select the tool indefinetely > alright. But if the key is pressed and held, and i do something, and > then release the key, the tool reverts back to the one last used. EH ! I forgot to mention how the feature could help the current thread's problem: If this feature is implemented, "m" can be pushed for what is now for space. and space can be pused for panning! -- Laxminarayan Kamath Ammembal *note change of mobile number* (+91) 9342287956 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.geocities.com/kamathln ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] use of the Space key
Hi, Andreas Røsdal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > To decide which operation which is most common, it would be > interesting to see some numbers comparing the two alternatives (and > perhaps others). One could gather data for which operation is most > often executed by a "typical" user, sort of like a usability test. > In fact, a totally different operation might be used more than > either of these alternatives. This could be something to do on the > next GIMPCon or similar. Very good point, except that GIMPCon is probably not the right event to do usability testing. After all usability tests should be done with users; experienced and new users. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: use of the Space key
Hi, GSR - FR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So I wonder... are there other better uses? Alternate between two > tools for example? Or would there be a way to make it configurable, > so anyone can bind any function to it (I ask due the "only while > pressed" vs "press & release", and the lack of "move view" tool)? We should be very careful here and keep in mind that the feature should be discoverable. If the user presses the Space key, it needs to become obvious what is happening. Changing the cursor to a hand should make it clear that dragging with the mouse will now pan the display. If instead we switched to the last-used tool, the user will only see that a tool switch takes place. She will probably be surprised that it switches to a different tool next time she tries. It will be rather hard to grasp that the tool changes to the last used tool. A lot of users will simply not understand the logic and won't use it because the behaviour appears as random. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: use of the Space key
Hi, GSR - FR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have been thinking, and remember some people were saying tools were > running out of mod keys. Why not reserve it for those cases? Tools > could use shift, control, alt and space. Or is the any technical > limitation about making mod+space a mod? The fact that we are running out of modifier keys means that we have a problem to solve. But I very much doubt that adding more modifier keys is a reasonable approach to it. If a tool needs more than the available modifier keys, then it should probably be split into multiple tools. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Idea for new plugin
hi everone around i have an idea for a new plugin for gimp. i may not be able explain it very well. but for those who wuold understand it would be nice.. the idea is about rotation of a selection.. what we have now is that the entire selection itself gets rotated..i.e if you rotate an oval selection with minor axis 'a' and major axis 'b' , 'a' along y direction and 'b' along x direction. by 90degrees. after rotation b would be along y and a would be along x. what i would say that if we could have an option such that only the content inside the selection rotate and not the selection itself wouldnt that be great something new in an image editing software i dont thnk the closest rivals of GIMP have that option yet .. for those who might not have understood what i mean here is the image of what i wanted to say... http://www.freewebs.com/chin2online/plug1.jpg --Nithin
[Gimp-developer] help needed on gimp development
hi everyone i'm new to gimp. and i am very excited about the project.. i'mm currently doing my engineering and would like to get involved in gimp development.. but sadly i know nothing about it would somebody be kind enough to help me start... plzz i downloaded the source code but coudnt understand a thing if somebody could help me create asimple plugin i mean something like creating a border then i woould learn by myself and stsrt writing some plugins of my own.. anybody who would like to help me can mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] so is there somebody who can show piy on this guy --Nithin
