Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp Marbled Paper Bounty?

2005-06-16 Thread Hal V Engel
On Wednesday 15 June 2005 10:13 pm, Leon Brooks wrote:
 My wife used to use a graphics package under MS-Windows 3.x a decade or
 two ago, which had been ported from the Mac. The package (name eludes
 me) understood how things like charcoal, chalk and watercolours were
 supposed to work (crumbliness, spatter, the way things tend to slide
 rather than stick as the force goes up (and eventually crush),
 brush-hair lines in the paint trail, the ability to _twist_ the
 applicator, that kind of thing). Simply recreating that ability would
 be a very noble goal and would bring a phalanx of artists aboard GIMP
 starting the day after it was released, no worries.

You might want to have a look at krita which is part of the upcoming KOffice 
1.4 release.  It is designed specifically to do the types of things you are 
talking about.  It is still under heavy development and is currently in what 
is probably a beta state.
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Re: [Gimp-developer] artistic GIMP (was: Marbled Paper)

2005-06-16 Thread Leon Brooks
On Friday 17 June 2005 04:22, Hal V Engel wrote:
 On Wednesday 15 June 2005 10:13 pm, Leon Brooks wrote:
 My wife used to use a graphics package under MS-Windows 3.x a
 decade or two ago, which had been ported from the Mac. The package
 (name eludes me) understood how things like charcoal, chalk and
 watercolours were supposed to work (crumbliness, spatter, the way
 things tend to slide rather than stick as the force goes up (and
 eventually crush), brush-hair lines in the paint trail, the ability
 to _twist_ the applicator, that kind of thing). Simply recreating
 that ability would be a very noble goal and would bring a phalanx
 of artists aboard GIMP starting the day after it was released, no
 worries.

 You might want to have a look at krita which is part of the upcoming
 KOffice 1.4 release.  It is designed specifically to do the types of
 things you are talking about.  It is still under heavy development
 and is currently in what is probably a beta state.

Thanks for that! The Krita page here...

http://www.koffice.org/krita/

...mentions that Krita (apparently AKA KImageShop) was inspired by 
Fractal Painter - the program whose name I couldn't remember - which is 
now known as Corel Painter IX:

http://www.corel.com/painterix/home/

It also acknowledges The GIMP for inspiration (yay!) and points to this:

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~hodsond/gimpbrush.html

My New Financial Year (here in Oz, anyway) Resolution is to have a look 
at Krita and see what if any of its technology can be cross-pollinated 
into The GIMP (perhaps as a plugin to start with).

Failing anything useful eventuating by the end of July, please nag me to 
start mucking around with, what shall I call it? Media is too easily 
confised with other stuff, so perhaps applicators?

Cheers; Leon

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[Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP

2005-06-16 Thread Leon Brooks
This may seem like an oxymoron, given GIMP's heavy defacto relationship 
with GNOME-flavoured GTK, but is there any GIMP equivalent to 
OpenOffice's KDE integration (http://kde.openoffice.org/)?

The closest I could find was a vague reference to a pre-2.0 KDEified 
version of The GIMP, apparently called KIMP...

http://dot.kde.org/1096230607/1096270511/

...and this discussion, which is obviously approaching the issue from 
the KDE end and not the GIMP end of things (IMESHO, starting from the 
wrong end):

http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-develm=92756018422117w=2

I am guessing that a zero overhead (at least for GTK, I'd envision 
this as a 1:1 mapping using #defines) toolkit mapping layer at the 
source-code level would make ports for Qt/KDE, Carbon, wxWidgets or 
whatever considerably easier. Then there'd be only alternative shims to 
maintain, not a whole raft of debris integrated with The GIMP proper, 
and toolkit bugs would all be located in very few files.

Cheers; Leon

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