Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP print dialog issues

2005-08-18 Thread Robert L Krawitz
   From: Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 22:36:22 +0200

   Robert L Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

   > 1) I don't remember anyone ever feeding them back to us.  Mitch did
   >some improvements once, years ago, but no one's ever contacted us
   >since.

   You need them fed to you? Are you serious?

Personally I had no idea that you ever did anything but port it
otherwise unchanged to the GIMP 2.x.  At one point, Mitch did make
some improvements, which he gave back to us, but I never heard of any
further work.

   > 2) We're not interested in any changes to the 4.2-based plugin at this
   >point; 5.0 is the wave of the future.  They're different enough
   >that changes to one won't port very easily to the other.

   The gimp-print plug-in in Debian sid is the 5.0 based plug-in, isn't it?

I don't know.  The Linspire dialog is definitely 4.2, not 5.0.  The
one you folks have in the GIMP is based on 4.2.

   > 3) That's what happens when nobody steps forward to maintain the
   >plugin and I have to do UI stuff.  The best way to utilize me for
   >UI programming is to take whatever I do and invert it.

   Well, I offered my help more than once and asked you to transfer
   maintainership of the plug-in completely to us. That never happened
   and at some point I definitely lost interest. At the moment I am
   more inclined to drop the print plug-in from the GIMP tree
   entirely. Or perhaps replace it with a simple one that is based on
   libgnomeprint / libgnomeprintui.

The idea was that we'd turn it over to you when 5.0 was released.
Regardless, we've pretty clearly dropped the ball here, since 5.0 has
taken a lot longer than plan.  I don't entirely regret that, since
we've done some important things, but facts is facts and I don't blame
you for losing interest in it.

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Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp_image_delete and adding text layers

2005-08-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

"Jared Whiting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I see the following using top (script-fu and Perl-Server processes never
> change so I'm not including those):
>
> VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
> 18440 7444  13m S  0.0  1.4   0:01.07 gimp
>
> Then I execute the code shown at the end of this message, and I see the
> following:
> VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
> 18648 8056  13m S  0.0  1.6   0:01.12 gimp
>
> Within the code I add an additional text layer and use gimp_merge_down,
> and see no change.  I add seven text layers and still no change (I had
> originally thought adding a new text layer ALWAYS results in more memory
> being taken but this is not the case, so my initial description of the
> problem is misleading.)  After running the script with the new text
> layers about 25 times in rapid succession I see the following:
>
> VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
> 18788 8196  13m S  0.0  1.6   0:06.23 gimp
>
> This behavior occurs with this sample pretty consistently.  Not a
> huge increase, but the cgi I'm using in production does a lot more
> than this and can be generating a few thousand images in one day.

top isn't actually a very accurate way of profiling memory usage. The
numbers you have shown so far can easily be explained by memory
fragmentation and the fact that glibc allocates memory in pools.
Smaller memory fragments are not returned to the operating system but
are being kept for reuse in the application. Please run your script a
lot more often and see if there's a significant increase in memory.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP print dialog issues

2005-08-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Robert L Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 1) I don't remember anyone ever feeding them back to us.  Mitch did
>some improvements once, years ago, but no one's ever contacted us
>since.

You need them fed to you? Are you serious?

> 2) We're not interested in any changes to the 4.2-based plugin at this
>point; 5.0 is the wave of the future.  They're different enough
>that changes to one won't port very easily to the other.

The gimp-print plug-in in Debian sid is the 5.0 based plug-in, isn't it?

> 3) That's what happens when nobody steps forward to maintain the
>plugin and I have to do UI stuff.  The best way to utilize me for
>UI programming is to take whatever I do and invert it.

Well, I offered my help more than once and asked you to transfer
maintainership of the plug-in completely to us. That never happened
and at some point I definitely lost interest. At the moment I am more
inclined to drop the print plug-in from the GIMP tree entirely. Or
perhaps replace it with a simple one that is based on libgnomeprint /
libgnomeprintui.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-developer] New to list--curious about progress of 'Resources'

2005-08-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

michael chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Where is the GIMP Website located (in terms of making changes)?  If
> someone wants to help e.g. do one page, but not take over the whole
> project, how would s/he go about propagating the changes to the GIMP
> website (if approved)?

It is in GNOME CVS, module gimp-web. There's also a mailing-list
dedicated to the web-site. Perhaps you want to take further discussion
to it.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-developer] The GUI

2005-08-18 Thread Nathan Summers
On 8/17/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I've got a suggestion about the GUI/Layout. You can se the idea at
> http://www.linet.se/gimp/
> 
> I hope you like it!

Placing a dockable location to the side of the image view window could
be nice to have.

Rockwalrus
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Re: [Gimp-developer] The GUI

2005-08-18 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 09:40:43AM -0400, Chris Clymer wrote:
> I agree with both arguments.  The ability to tab images like i tab
> xterms would be very useful.  At the same time, there are in fact a lot
> of times where i want to see more than one image at once...and this is
> very common if you're doing lots of graphics work.

Most especially, this is the whole point of the View->New View feature.

I like to use grids, and zoom in a lot, when editing some graphics
(esp. sprites and other artwork for cellphone games).  It really helps
to have a 1:1 view sitting on my screen where I can see it, with all
of the layer borders, selection borders, and snap-to-grids disabled.

-bill!
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Re: [Gimp-developer] The GUI

2005-08-18 Thread Chris Clymer
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I agree with both arguments.  The ability to tab images like i tab
xterms would be very useful.  At the same time, there are in fact a lot
of times where i want to see more than one image at once...and this is
very common if you're doing lots of graphics work.

Its actually been painful that scribus doesn't seem to like showing
multiple documents at once...but a lot of layout apps are like this, so
i can deal with it.
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