Re: [Gimp-developer] Tool statusbar error messages
On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 12:04:47PM -0400, Christopher Curtis wrote: I hope I'm not showing my lack of UI skills here, but: On 9/26/06, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 02:17:34PM -0700, William Skaggs wrote: Indexed images are not currently supported.(heal) Healing does not operate on indexed layers Healing cannot manipulate indexed images. Cannot heal indexed images. Use Image-Mode to change color mode. Points: Instructs how to fix the problem. Concise enough (I hope) to fit translations. Remove Use if constraints prevent users from seeing Image-Mode (the important part) when clipping. i think that your rewrite is very good. it actually causes me to wonder what has happened to humans that we need to have these messages all over the place though. could it be that so many of the 'needs' of users has been fabricated? (fabricated here meaning invented in such a way to make it seem as if there is so much unhappiness and so that it allows something that was really really good to be changed to be not so good) And as a general, pie-in-the-sky, comment: It seems that indexed mode editing is cumbersome, confusing, and limited. When core operations are moved into a GEGL, The GIMP should probably lose indexed mode editing (indexed formats autoconvert to/from) and a separate tool be created just for this type of editing. More blue sky: It would be really slick if all GEGL-apps could shuffle images amongst themselves, assuming that interface is intuitive. So that, for example, an indexed editor, a pixel editor, a SVG editor, and a prepress app could all have a 'window' onto a shared image stored in GEGL space. indexing images is used only because a good and free animation format has not been agreed upon or for games or simple graphics for speedy web pages. perhaps the need to continue to clutter gimp gui is more a failure of all of the communities who are supposedly there adding to the wealth of information that is already known about image manipulation and also about working with GIMP specifically to make images. how many different ways does the same thing need to be said? could (perhaps) everyone take a step back and a few minutes to consider that it is actually not possible to make an application that is as strong as GIMP that will work easily for people who will not take the time to become familar with it and get on with something that is more productive. i will be honest. i do not think that i will ever see that message in the status bar before i will see it in my own mind based on my experience(s). restated. where are we going? will we want to be there once we arrive? carol ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] UI improvements (was: Moving selection contents with the move tool?)
Hi, On Sun, 2006-10-01 at 07:23 -0700, Saul Goode wrote: To a large extent, all operations in the Layers menu do not honor selections. The notable exceptions are: Transparency-Color To Alpha Transparency-Semi-flatten Transparency-Threshold Alpha Transform-Arbitrary Rotate These are plug-ins (color2alpha, semiflatten, threshold_alpha) or tools (Rotate tool). Plug-ins automatically honor the selection, they can't modify unselected pixels, Arbitrary Rotation is just a shortcut for switching to the Rotate tool. 5) Restore the option to use the space bar to move the current layer without any dialog being presented. This could readily be implemented by executing the Move Tool in the ignore selection mode. The space bar feature is still present (as an option) and it has always been implemented by switching to the Move tool temporarily. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] UI improvements (was: Moving selection contents with the move tool?)
The space bar feature is still present (as an option) and it has always been implemented by switching to the Move tool temporarily. Sven Indeed, you are correct. I must have switched the affect: option of the Move tool during my experimentation and failed to restore it. These are plug-ins (color2alpha, semiflatten, threshold_alpha) or tools (Rotate tool). Plug-ins automatically honor the selection, And being able to make such a blanket statement should simplify things for the user. Unfortunately, without a way of differentiating between a plug-in or a core function in the menu system that knowledge is of no benefit to the user. Nonetheless, of more importance than the Layer menu, it would be of great benefit to the user interface to be able to make such a general statement about tools (i.e., tools automatically honor the selection). Since there is only one tool that violates this at the current time, it would seem most reasonable to make that tool conform; especially since Move operations bear such a connection and similarity to Transform operations. The current Affect: options of the Move Tool and all of the transform tools have the same tool hints: Transform Layer, Transform Selection, and Transform Path. There is nothing in the user interface to suggest that the Move Tool does not honor selections while the other tools do. It seems to me that adding a Transform Selection Contents mode to the Move tool and a Transform Layer mode to the transform tools would provide an extremely desirable commonality while correcting an obvious inconsistency. It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit. -- Harry S. Truman ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Tool statusbar error messages
mitch wrote: I just comitted a change that moves all tool error messages that can happen when clicking the image to the image window's statusbar, using the new gimp_statusbar_push_temp() API. I will have to see how this works in practice. I have some doubts as to whether this is a good idea. For myself I'm not that used to looking at the statusbar for tool related messages. I would be concerned whether important messages might be missed if they are only in the status bar. It would also take longer to read messages in the statusbar when the image windows is not wide enough to display the entire message at once. You would have to wait for the message to scroll through the statusbar in order to read all of it compare to seeing it all at once if was in a pop up dialog box. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.interlog.com/~kcozens/ |What are we going to do today, Borg? Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172|Same thing we always do, Pinkutus: | Try to assimilate the world! #include disclaimer/favourite | -Pinkutus the Borg ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
