Re: [Gimp-developer] Missing button to confirm some tool actions (usability)

2007-08-20 Thread Michael Schumacher
Von: David Marrs [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Clicking inside the cropped region also implements the action. It's
 actually a feature I'm not sure I like because it deviates from the 
 rectangle tool's implementation of the same action - to hide the handles.
 Well, I don't know if that's what the implementation is technically but 
 that's what it effectively does and it's what I use it for.

No, that's not what it does effectively. If applies the resizable selection 
frame to the selection mask. In any other selection mode than replace, you'll 
face the same problem with this behaviour as you now do with crop.


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp (current svn) crop tool

2007-08-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
Laurent MONIN wrote:
 Hello,
 
   the fixed option of the crop tool is far better now, aspect ratio is
 nicely working, thank you very much for what you did.
 
 I noted few things (that you may already know):
 - in some cases, there are spurious lines drawn when defining the crop zone.
 - Fixed Aspect Ratio reports width:height which is great, but when changing
   to Fixed Width or Fixed Height, the value is set to 100, it would be more
   useful if it stayed on the previous width or height value.
   Fixed Size should be the one of the current crop zone, not 100x100

Thanks Laurent

Yup, bug 467972 (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=467972) is 
the highlight artifacts bug.

Updating the Fixed: Width/Height entries would be nice indeed, and I 
plan to fix this before 2.4, I just haven't found the time to do so yet. 
Since I have already written the surrounding code, fixing this should go 
fairly quick.

I'm not sure what to put for Fixed: Size though, and the spec simply 
states 100x100 but are open for improvments. Crop zone sounds 
interesting, what do you mean by that?

- Martin Nordholts
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Missing button to confirm some tool actions (usability)

2007-08-20 Thread David Marrs
Michael Schumacher wrote:
 Von: David Marrs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Clicking inside the cropped region also implements the action. It's
 actually a feature I'm not sure I like because it deviates from the 
 rectangle tool's implementation of the same action - to hide the handles.
 Well, I don't know if that's what the implementation is technically but 
 that's what it effectively does and it's what I use it for.
 
 No, that's not what it does effectively. If applies the resizable selection 
 frame to the selection mask. In any other selection mode than replace, you'll 
 face the same problem with this behaviour as you now do with crop.
 
Yes, I suspected I was over-simplifying. Nevertheless, the ability to hide the 
handles is very useful, maybe less so for selections but definitely for crops. 
Is the ability to do this implemented in some other way. If it isn't, can we 
consider adding it?

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Missing button to confirm some tool actions (usability)

2007-08-20 Thread saulgoode
Quoting David Marrs [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Yes, I suspected I was over-simplifying. Nevertheless, the ability  
 to hide the
 handles is very useful, maybe less so for selections but definitely  
 for crops.
 Is the ability to do this implemented in some other way. If it isn't, can we
 consider adding it?

You could press and hold the mouse button within the cropped region --  
the handles disappear while the button is down and when you release,  
you are returned to the previous state.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp (current svn) crop tool

2007-08-20 Thread Liam R E Quin

 It would be easy to update Fixed: Size however, since that uses the same 
 widget as Fixed: Aspect ratio, so I'm still curious about what you mean 
 with crop zone

I think it's fairly clear (although maybe I'm out to breakfast)...
when you clidck on Fixed Size, the size (width + height fields)
could be filled in from the current size of the crop preview
rectangle, if there is one.

There are some UI problems with this though.
If I enter a width and height and then click fixed size,
the crop rectangle preview probably needs to change, not
the numbers I entered. So the dialogue would need to
keep track of whether I had entered values into width
and/or heigher since the state of Fixed Size was last
changed, and retain those if so.  I think?

Liam


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