Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.4 and how to continue from here
Sven Neumann wrote: At that point trunk will be open for development. But since we are aiming for a short development cycle, we need to absolutely keep the tree in a good shape. I don't want to see any commits that haven't been discussed and approved beforehand. This doesn't mean line-by-line code review. But I would like you guys to present your plans here beforehand and not learn about them from reading the commit logs. So if are planning any particular features for 2.6, now is the time to present them here so that they can be put on the roadmap. This includes stuff that has been planned for quite a while, like for example finishing the metadata framework/editor (Raphael!), but also the port to GEGL (Mitch!). I'd like to get a couple paint tool related patches in. 323921 GIMPNEW enh add support for color jitter in the paint tools 163050 GIMPNEW enh paint tools should support smudging as they paint. Patches exist, though they haven't been tested against 2.4/2.5, I think they should apply pretty easily however. If theres interest, I can update them. Adrian ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] default setup for 2.4 comments
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi Adrian, On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 21:24 -0500, Adrian Likins wrote: Yup, I'll take this and start putting together a set of brushes. will you also address http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322176 ? Yes. And on the subject of defaults for 2.4, I wonder if it would be useful to include a set of default tool option presets for each tool? I know for me, one of the first things I do with an app is to browse though the set of canned presets/templates/etc. Typically a good way to get the feel of an app. Having some for gimp might be useful. Adrian ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] default setup for 2.4 comments
Raphaël Quinet wrote: On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:36:53 -0500, Adrian Likins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sven mention on irc the issue of choosing what the default setup for 2.4 should be. So here are some of my thoughts: 1. In the toolbox, the fg/bg color, and brush/patter/gradient boxes should be on. Maybe. But another option (mentioned in your point 2) would be to make sure that the color selector tab is always included in the default session (even when upgrading from a previous gimp version!) and that it is visible by default (first tab). In this case, I am not sure that we need the separate indicator. We can save some precious desktop space by not having it on by default Not sure how concerned we are about desktop space. Those seem pretty small to me, and are useful. If we really wanted to save real estate, we could show those widget, and hide the bottom dialog in the main dialog doc entry by default (brush, color, patter, gradient would be redundant, and that would save much more screen space). 3. Change the default image size (any particular reason it is 377x233?) I'd suggest 1024x768 I'd suggest VGA (640x480) or even less, so that it fits on a 1024x768 screen. Web statistics from July 2006 show that only 19% of the users have screens larger than 1024x768. While I expect this percentage to be higher among GIMP users (maybe close to 40% or 50%?), we should still make sure that the default settings work fine on a typical laptop screen (widescreen laptops are not so common yet even if they represent the majority of the new sales in many countries). 1024x768 (or bigger) automatically zooms out for me, so I don't think it's a real estate issue. I'd just like to see a slightly more useful default size. The current defaults are pretty small in comparison to the multi-mega-pixels camera images people tend to edit. I actually default to 1600x1200, even on my laptop of smaller resolution. 5. It might be nice to have the stock round/square brushes be dynamic brushes by default. (If I understand correctly, theres a small concern that this might break some existing scripts?) This has been discussed before. From my point of view, I am not concerned at all about the scripts but I am more concerned about usability aspects. The current bitmap brushes allow you to quickly switch between different predefined sizes without having to play with the brush size slider. This is not so easy to do with scalable brushes. No reason you couldn't have 10 sizes of the scalable brushes in the dialog by default. You just want a wide selection of useful brushes that are browsable and easy to access. 6. A wider selection of basic brushes would be good, especially with the #5. Agreed. Any proposals? hard and soft circles, hard and soft squares, hard and soft calligraphy brushes, maybe a wider set of grunge brushes. I'll see if I can come up with an actual set. 7. I'd like to see some high resolution brushes included, especially now with brush downscaling being easy to get to. Again agreed. Any proposals? ;-) Maybe some water drop, frame, cracks, etc. I'll see what I can come up with. This kind of stuff seems to map well to one of the ui improvement goals of making gimp a better tool for creating original artwork from found images. It's pretty typical to use grunge brushes or frame and border brushes to enhance and personalize found images. 8. Maybe some more examples of pixmap/hose brushes. I kind of hate that green pepper and vine brush (and I made them...). Not sure what exactly yet, but I have some ideas: a. something that makes obvious use of the directional pipes would be good. b. Maybe a simple tube drawing brush (aka, a rendered sphere with the spacing set to a low value) c. Maybe a couple more (bigger) sizes of the Pencil Sketch brushes d. a wilber brush? (totally useless, but hey... it's wilber) e. a series of flipped versions of the Caligraphic Brush series Some time ago, I found some nice examples of directional brushes: one with ants and the other one with feet. Alas I don't have them anymore and I am not sure about their licence terms. But something like that would be nice to include in the default GIMP package. I have seen many PSP brushes showing random water drops, snowflakes or other things similar to the animated Sparks brush. Adding one or two of those could also be nice. These may not be very useful for graphics professionals, but it would certainly be nice for the amateur web designers or for those who want to impress their friends by creating cheezy Christmas cards with GIMP. I have the ant brush, but don't remember who created it off the top of my head (which brings up an interesting point about brushes not having much
[Gimp-developer] default setup for 2.4 comments
Sven mention on irc the issue of choosing what the default setup for 2.4 should be. So here are some of my thoughts: 1. In the toolbox, the fg/bg color, and brush/patter/gradient boxes should be on. 2. Add color selector and palette dialogs to the default Layers, Channels, Paths, Undo | Brushes, Patterns, Gradient dialog that comes up currently. 3. Change the default image size (any particular reason it is 377x233?) I'd suggest 1024x768 4. Don't show the devices dialog by default. It's a bit redundant with #1, and only shows one device for most users. 5. It might be nice to have the stock round/square brushes be dynamic brushes by default. (If I understand correctly, theres a small concern that this might break some existing scripts?) 6. A wider selection of basic brushes would be good, especially with the #5. 7. I'd like to see some high resolution brushes included, especially now with brush downscaling being easy to get to. 8. Maybe some more examples of pixmap/hose brushes. I kind of hate that green pepper and vine brush (and I made them...). Not sure what exactly yet, but I have some ideas: a. something that makes obvious use of the directional pipes would be good. b. Maybe a simple tube drawing brush (aka, a rendered sphere with the spacing set to a low value) c. Maybe a couple more (bigger) sizes of the Pencil Sketch brushes d. a wilber brush? (totally useless, but hey... it's wilber) e. a series of flipped versions of the Caligraphic Brush series 9. I'd turn on Save Tool options on exit by default. We have a reset to default in the dialogs if someone wants to reset the tools. 10. Man, am I ever tired of those default pattern options. (Mostly my fault unfortunately). They didn't age very well. Not sure if we can do much about it without breaking scripts. 11. Ditto with the gradients, though we should probably add another example or two of using the dynamic color stuff in gradients Thats all that comes to mind at the moment. Adrian [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] authors.xml, volunteer needed
Tor Lillqvist wrote: The following names I couldn't find in the ChangeLogs, somebody else could grep through the mailint list archives. My apologies if I have missed someone obvious whom I should know by name. looks like mostly plugin folks, some of which may no longer be distrubited with the app... sources, old www.gimp.org, http://www.nuclecu.unam.mx/~federico/gimp/links.html, old gimp news, plugin registry, my crufty old brain, http://www.xcf.berkeley.edu/~gimp/resources.html Karl-Johan Andersson plugins Struc(canvasify), Glasstile, FlareFX John Beale plugins warp, seems like other stuff as well Marc Bless Author of the GIMP Programmers Guide. Soon to be updated for .99 according to the original .gimp.org Edward Blevins listed as author of at least checkerboard plugin Reagan Blundell sent some patches to me for mail.c at the very least, think he did some Xavier Bouchoux plugins Sinus,Keftale and Holes plugins Roberto Boyd ?? Brent Burton Checkerboard plugin Francisco Bustamante plugins PCX, Stereogram, Colorify Albert Cahalan plugin hrz loader Sean Cier plugins depthmerge Ed Connel plugins Levels and Histogram Brian Degenhardt ported some .54 plugins according to federico's page Scott Draves flame and smooth pallette plugin Daniel Dunbar seem to recall he had a pile of tutorials and docs at one point and polar coordinates plugin Misha Dynin original url plugin Morton Eriksen plugin Apply Lens David Forsyth ?? Jochen Friedrich plugins G3 fax plugin Jim Geuther ported a bunch of his ImageKnife plugins to GIMP Graeme Gill wrote pnmnlfilt, which was ported to the non linear filter plugin Heiko Goller maintained a list of patches, mostly for IRIX fixes it's even still up! http://saftsack.fs.uni-bayreuth.de/~han/gimp/changes.html Marcelo de Gomensoro Malheiros contributed a large portion of the default graidents included in gimp, see http://www.nuclecu.unam.mx/~federico/gimp/gradient-editor/ also, solid noise plugin Michael Hammel docs, resources, and I seem to recall various fixups and patches at times Jan HubiÄka aalib and one of the math plugins I belive Simon Janes wrote some docs according to federicos page Andrew Kieschnick plugins Difference Plasma and Charcoa Philipp Klaus border average plugin Karl La Rocca seems to have contributted textures and whatnot Laramie Leavitt ?? vaguely want to say alpha stuff Elliot Lee he was all over gnome and gtk for a while, did the initial check in of gimp into gnome cvs, Wing Tung Leung ?? Ingo Lütkebohle plugin registry Ed Mackey gimp faq Ian Main gtk+ tutorual Torsten Martinsen plugins Noisify, Engrave, Oilify,Variable Blur Hirotsuna Mizuno plugins Illusiton, Paper Tile, Fractal Trace, gimp-mask Balazs Nagy ??? Stephen Robert Norris plugins, displacement map, plasma, etc Tim Newsome aalib plugin, grid plugin Erik Nygren plugins pnm Thom van Os plugin selective gausian blur Mike Phillips some tutorials according to federicos page Jens Restemeier plugins Qbist, gfli, and User Filter Daniel Risacher gzip plugin James Robinson tutorials according to federicos page Tim Rowley plugin tiler Mike Schaeffer from federicos page: Mike Schaeffer has created some icons you can use for the GIMP and its windows. You can fetch them from his homepage. He also has written a small utility that lets you preview the installed fonts in your X server. John Schlag listed as co-author of emboss Norbert Schmitz plugin iWarp Thorsten Schnier plugins sobel and laplace Tracy Scott plugins, pixelize, cubism, etc Aaron Sherman various perl scripts/plugins Daniel Skarda plugins Motion Blur, GAG Mike Sweet plugins Print, Sharpen, Despeckle, irix fixes Michael Taylor plugins pix Ian Tester plugins threshold James Wang ??? Kris Wehner plugins levels/histogram (.54) Nigel Wetten plugins, diff, wind, jigsaw Adrian Likins ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] gradients database?
On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 01:42:06PM +0800, Gordon Royle wrote: Hi, Thanks to the help from this list, I have now interpreted the gradient format and my program can now freely use at least the simpler GIMP gradients (linear interpolation). After all this work, I had hoped that there would be some central listing containing lots of cool gradients that I could just immediately use but all I can find are the ones that come with the GIMP already and a few isolated ones on the web. Does anyone know if there is any central location where individuals can contribute their funky gradients? If not, should there be one? This could be easily automated to allow people to submit their favourite gradients and build up a really excellent resource... There were a couple big piles of gradients based on fractint gradient files floating around at one point. ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/contrib/grads-adrian-fractint.tar.gz there are about 500 in there I belive... I seem to have about 700 sitting in my gimp setup at the moment, not sure where all from... Adrian ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
