Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP]
Sven Neumann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [Fileselector] I do accept that but I would like people to point out exactly what problems they have instead of just saying that they dislike the new dialogs. Without detailed complaints we can't do anything to improve the situation. What occurred to me recently: The absence of a discoverable filename entry makes it quite hard to paste a filename into the fileselector. (plus the extra popping up window is quite annoying) Bye, Simon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://simon.budig.de/ ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP]
From: Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 00:40:37 +0200 If you want details then exactly as in gtk+-1.0 should suffice, because that dialog simply worked. No extra window, no slow extra popups that you have to wait for, no fancy and distracting _hiliting_, no stealing of the current selection etc. etc. Basically I want to be able to blindly enter paths as I could with gimp-1.0, press enter and presto - saved or loaded, with no other die effects. Perhaps you should stop looking at the dialog and just blindly enter paths. It works surprisingly well. Did this change in GTK 2.6? In GTK 2.4, I tried doing precisely that. I typed ctrl-O while in an image named colors4.tif; I tried to type skier.tifenter and got another copy of colors4.tif. I don't much mind blindly entering paths, as long as I can see what I'm typing in case I make a mistake. -- Robert Krawitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Project lead for Gimp Print --http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works. --Eric Crampton ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP]
[This is a re-sent because my reent mails had been sent for moderation ut never appeared on-list: is the list still moderated?] On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 03:23:02PM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, you aren't seriously trying to argue that the new GtkFileChooser would be worse than the old file selection widget, are you? That used Lots of people have expressed that the new filechooser feels worse for them. I, for example, as a heavy unix shell user (probably a totally unimportant part of the gimp user community as I am no graphics artist), still find the old (gtk+-1) file dialogs much easier and more intuitive to use, with less clutter. The best file dialogs ever, because they never got in my way. The new (gtk+-2.6) dialogs _do_ come in my way. They work like ms windows, they feel like ms windows, and they feel clumsy, in the parts that I use: entering filenames. (Despite still blocking for ages due to excessive stat() ing for remote filesystems not in the directory I started them, and many more minor annoyances that certainly _will_ be fixed, or at least be improved, but still make it slow business with gtk+-2.6.4). Other things (workflow) will not get fixed because the target (me!) is not the majority, and not important either. But that doesn't magically make the dialogs useful for me and claiming so again and again makes that more and more grotesque. to be the case with the early implementations but certainly not with the latest GTK+ 2.6 releases. The file dialog is getting better and better with each release. You keep repeating this as if it were some kind of religion - why do you ignore the people who simply disagree? Of course the new dialogs have many more features, but they are _much_ less usable for _some_ people. This is a simple fact. You should really accept that, even if it works for you, and even if you cannot understand it. -- The choice of a -==- _GNU_ ==-- _ generation Marc Lehmann ---==---(_)__ __ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / http://schmorp.de/ -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP]
Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually run the GIMP on KDE, and it works just fine. Minor bug related to KDE integration are reported form time to time to bugzilla, and that is all there is that doesn't work. I'd love it if Gimp used KDE's file dialogs. The new Gimp one is quite annoying, compared to both the older Gimp file dialogs and the latest KDE ones. -bill! ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
